Dr. Jason Lisle "The Ultimate Proof of Creation"
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2014
- "The Ultimate Proof of Creation"
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People should just admit it. The reason they deny the scientific evidence for creationism and intelligent design is because they want nothing to do with the Designer.
Or maybe having been lied to by authorities on many topics we presume they may be lying on the religious topics as well. Then seeking truth we find that in fact they are grossly mistaken.
There is no basis for what the ID crew put forth, they change the meaning of words in the middle of an essay, equivocation is a form of lying and it is obvious enough that many believe that it is intentional. These men will seem to lie unabashedly so long as they can sell books to those who "don't want to be responsible for making life choices".
@@histreeonics7770 Yet you fail to apply this same logic to science DDT and smoking were once "scientifically proven" to be safe for humans and we all know that isnt the case now 🤡🤡
I admit it. It has nothing to do with facts, logic, or evidence. It's just that I don't believe in Krishna. Wait... which designer are you talking about again?
There is no evidence. He presented no evidence. He's being intellectually dishonest. Which is a nice way of saying ... he's being dishonest.
That makes about as much sense as a drug dealer who knows that police exist but thinks they can avoid any consequences by pretending police don't exist. That is to say you make no sense at all.
I want God to deliver everyone who wants Him and deal with the hard hearts who are always destroying
What a loving God! If those who don't "choose" to worship him- he should DEAL with them? How so? Hell? Eternal separation? Petty God. That God is a bitch.
Deliver how?
I was recently in a debate about creation and evolution. The one I was debating answered my statement that he couldn't change my mind. He said if I couldn't change my mind when I saw scientific evidence of evolution, I asked him if he would change HIS mind. He indicated he would not. I debated a little longer and finally told him if I couldn't prove God to him, how could he prove there's no God to me. Haven't heard back. So yes, people make up their minds based on what they want to believe unless they have evidence they're wrong. No evidence they ever see will convince them they're wrong unless they look at things with an open mind. I was raised a Christian. At some point I began to question the validity of creation and God. At some point I decided evolution was right. Later still, as I studied things further in science, the Bible began to make sense. So...I went full circle. I looked at both sides. I came to the realization God does exist and the Bible is true. I enjoyed this video very much. One of the best explanations of the creation theory and why it's true. I'll watch it again. And maybe again.
Yep. When the rituals and settings as learned in childhood didn’t 30:27 30:28 ‘work’ anymore, casting about for the kernel of truth exposed one to all the weird ideas… and finally come back to that kernel that was there all the time, because the weird stuff proved to be dust and fluff.
How can you say the bible is true? We know it’s not. We know the earth is 3.5 billion years old, not 10,000. We know the universe has taken 13.7 billion years at least to reach this current state, not 6 days. We know humans evolved from other mammals which evolved from reptiles which evolved from fish which evolved from bacteria, not Adam and Eve. If it was Adam and Eve did their kids have to screw each other? That’s gross and we know inbreeding leads to many genetic defects. We also know you cannot stop the Sun as described in the Bible since it is the Earth that’s spinning and if you stop the Earth we’d have tsunamis and 800mph winds etc. we also know you cannot spend 3 days in a big fish. It’s not a submarine. There’s no oxygen. There are digestive juices. You also can’t have a world wide flood. There’s not enough water. Plus the ocean salt water concentration mixed with fresh water would kill the plants and fish. And the list goes on.
You should start by learning that evolution has nothing do do with the origin of life, only how it changes. So you are debating two unrelated topics as if they are the same topic. If you want to argue that supernatural forced are responsible for the changes in life over billions of years instead of natural selection, then argue that. If you want to argue that supernatural forces caused life to exist, then argue that, but realize that has nothing to do with evolution.
Either way, your next step is showing some evidence of the supernatural having ever existed. Good luck with that one!
'Two things to remember when people ask you to be neutral:
1. They're not
2. You shouldn't be '
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After listening to people like Dr. Jason, how can anyone say that believers are dumb?
May God bless you annually abundantly, Dr. Jason.
@zempath "LOL oh the irony"
The irony is that you considered your word fart as science to prove all that was said in the vid wrong.
so many excellent quotes in this message: "in a chance universe, why would there be any laws at all? why would there be laws of logic? who decides what they are?"
The idea that a universe having some chance in it means the whole thing is driven by chance is just one of the misrepresentations of science that Lisle and friends indulge in.
The insistence that structure comes only from a mind is the reverse of all the actual data we have on minds which is that they are a result of structure. Our minds and the laws that we use to describe the universe are a consequence that some chemical reactions are self catalyzing.
Lisle ignores massive amounts of data to come to each of his psuedo-scientific conclusions, ignoring different subsets of the data in order to generate different pro-Biblical inferences.
Actual scientists try to encompass the greatest amount of data, and only consider an idea to merit the label 'theory' when it explains all the data that its form is capable of.
@@histreeonics7770 you sure said a lot not to have said anything
@@ronniebuchanan6575 Pick one of Lisle's points and I will back up my "nothing" statements with the particulars of why he is wrong.
Perhaps you should consider that your lack of finding something in what I wrote is a lack of knowledge on the topic on your part.
@histreeonics You must understand, it’s hard to take people like you seriously when you believe in fairy tales and hypocrisy. You believe that the ingredients (so to speak) that created this universe just magically came into existence, thus defying the laws of physics and energy that people like you say this universe is built on. If you break it down to the basics, people like you believe in nonsense that defies the governing laws of the universe, where as common sense dictates that a hyper intelligent being used science and math to build this place. Again, say that out loud. You believe in a magic poof where materials just appeared and stuff happened, and people like me believe an intelligent being used science to build this place. I mean, you can try and cite some barely observed phenomena, that is most likely misinterpreted, to try to bring forth a retort to my observation, but it would just be doing what people like you claim believers do, grasp at straws. Just for the record, I used to be on your side of the fence. Then I sat down and actually used reason and logic. I came to the conclusion that Chad been duped by people with an agenda into believing nonsense.
@@readingthebible5413 You are projecting. You have a wrong understanding of the present state of science and then claim by debunking (wrongly) that wrong idea you have debunked the actual science.
Nothing in the present consensus theory of cosmology states that energy came into existence at some particular point in the past. No main stream physicist states that.
A competent physicist does however note that the conservation of energy that you seem to think is an absolute law is actually a consequence of the independence of the Hamiltonian equation on time. However the Hamiltonian does not appear to be absolutely independent of time, it appears to have been different around the time of the extrapolated singularity of non-quantum General Relativity that in turn requires a uniformity of the distribution of mass-energy that is not actually what we measure.
IE the current state of the only actual testable theory of cosmology does not state that energy must always have been conserved.
Lisle et al, apparently including you based on your youtube name, explicitly claim that the universe as we see it is the result of magic. You directly claim what you falsely state that scientists claim and then have the self blindness to say that scientists are hypocrites. There is a reason some people refer to religious people as delusional, this is one of them.
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The agenda of duplicity here is on the side of the promoters of particular religions, who like Lisle make their living by propagating the lies of their fathers. What turned my disbelief in the God of the Bible, but not the possibility of a creator god, into contempt for my religious teachers was the story of the return from Babylon. In it Ezra and/or Nehemiah conveniently find a scroll of law magically preserved in the ruins of the Temple that among other lost laws included giving 10% off the top of all production to the Temple. That such an obvious scam was accepted by adults led me to discard all residual trust in their sanity and intelligence.
I grew up during the hot part of the cold war and that the same people nattering on about Soviet propaganda would accept the same intellectually vacuous crap in the form of religion left me with no option but to doubt everything that they told me about anything.
Perhaps you are too young to have experienced that hypocrisy and as such are not as well attuned to the hypocrisy of your position.
Delightful clarity and precision.. thumbs up
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Also read “Climbing Mount Improbable”, “The Blind Watchmaker”, “The Selfish Gene”, “Some Assembly Required”, “The Greatest Show on Earth” all by Dr. Richard Dawkins.
You’ll then understand and appreciate Evolution and how it created the genes that built you so that you could propagate half of those genes to each of your kids.
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Wow…I kept listening to this and kept saying this sounds very familiar. Truth is I studied under Greg Bahnsen. What an apologist! So good to see someone carrying on his work. God bless…keep up the great work you are doing!!!
Thank You God for equipping Dr. Lisle with the many gifts he so generously shares. Please Lord take Your truth far and wide into Your Creation. Please Father allow all people to know YOU and You alone are worthy of our worship, Help each of us Jesus to communicate well How Great You are. We Thank You Lord. In Jesus name we pray AMEN let it be so
DNA confirms intelligent design. DNA strands are so complexed that even with all the supercomputers we have right now, they cannot understand them. They're just now able to start to pick it apart and read some of it but they don't comprehend it. Yet this all happened randomly? Right?
There is no logic to your statement. In essence you are saying that if humans can't understand something today that it must have been designed. That is a total non-sequitur.We understand things today that we did not understand yesterday, that did not change the 'designed' status of the thing.
@@histreeonics7770 I believe the point he's making is for it to happen like you believe it's mathematically impossible, also If man at this point cant even read it let alone recreate it, then how in the f$%& did this happen by chance against the fact that its mathematically inpossible?
@Julien Lindauer wtf are you talking about? Recently we learned that we could still extract dna from dead creatures including humans and at no given point have we discovered less complex strands of dna. I literally have no idea what theoretical science paper your pulling from but it in no way is valid.
@Julien Lindauer I really dont care what you trust and regardless thats is completely irrelevant to the conversation. You can keep saying it all you want I already refuted it so that argument is irrelevant.
@@MoriartyTheFifth exactly. You got what I was saying.
My mom is teaching me creation is true and science viewed through what God meant it to be is a good thing but my school textbook stretches the truth.Thank you for the truth.
Don't trust any one book. Look at multiple sources and find out how to discern truth. Find out reasons why you should believe a claim is true, and go back to it.
Your mom is probably an idiot
@@patldennis out of your own mouth, reprobate. Get saved, Acts 16:31
@@ronrodriguez6653 saved from what?
@@patldennis Saved from Hell,that's why Jesus died on the cross, and was raised again. Bitterness and pride is the most common symptoms of unbelievers.
You guys should watch the debate with Ken Ham, Jason Lisle, Hugh Ross and Walter Kaiser. It's long but very informative.
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Oliver Sanderson thank you!’
Oliver Sanderson Thank you so much
Anything ken hamm says is most definitely NOT informative 😆
"the god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers" - such a truth, and such a large part of this blinding process is derision - calling us stupid. This scoffing & mocking told of in the last days. So I always love it when intelligent men or women speak out for God, simply because of this blindness and invalidation. We're stupid, we're illogical, we're brainwashed, we're delusional. Here's a guy with a PHD up to his neck in evolutionist community, is he stupid ? Yet in addition to hearing this wonderful guy speak, I know doctors, accountants, incredibly precise and bright people who have drawn the same conclusion. I know far less bright people who agree too. The truth is we're chosen TO know regardless of background. But also prayer and petition somehow changes outcomes for the lost. Lovely guy.
If I wrote an article that was a complete load of totally absurd bullshit, then it wouldn't be greatly stretching my intellect to predict that people would laugh and mock the bullshit I wrote. I mock and laugh at you for being so gullible to buy into this … you've just been conned in a major way.
I wish all males were like the great guys who do the research and presentations with ICR. Wish I had been somebody who deserved to find somebody like they are many years before I found ICR. Glad heaven will be so much better than earth
Bonnie 60 years ago all the sciences fascinated me, and I wanted to teach… but only now is there the data in all those fields that I wanted to know and pass on back then.
Amazing how people are saying that there is no evidence on this video when there is plenty of evidence. Just people looking to draw people away from the video. Watch it and give it a chance. There's good stuff on here.
have you ever Googled the rebuttals to this man? His premises has been debunked over and over and over. But the problem with people like you is you start off by believing that there is a God so you try and find anything that supports something that you already believe. It's called leading the evidence. But you never take the time to see the responses. You try and quote science when it benefits you but you don't realize that what he has put forth has been debunked. They have pointed out flaws which make his Viewpoint pointless. But you don't take the time to look at those because then you would have to admit that he's an idiot and is the laughing stock of science. You try and discredit science when the thousands and thousands of non-believers in science prove aspects of the Bible wrong but then when you find one out of thousands that agree with what you already believe you try and use that as evidence. But like I said he has been debunked and if science used evidence like he did, we wouldn't get anywhere in life. If you think that what he presented as evidence but then think that we don't have evidence for evolution then you need to go back to school and learn something because you are a complete idiot. If Bible Believers had 1% of the evidence for a God that we have for evolution, you would be blasting it all over the place but you don't. You would suck God's invisible dick to be able to have the evidence that scientists have for evolution. So instead of trying to find stuff that fits what you already believe why don't you look and see where the evidence points, but I promise you it's not towards your God. Educate yourself and open a book that isn't the Bible because it's making you an idiot
Good stuff? Total bollocks, you mean.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 Of everything that can known, because you know so little of it. It's absurd to assume that there is no God.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 It's absurd to believe you came from an animal, and "educate yourself" you mean let the garbage go down your throat of all lies you've been led to believe in secular college. You reject God's existence, because as God said in His word, you're abominable and corrupt, you have a facade that you masquerade around about being "scholarly" yet, you've regurgitated all your professors told you, without thinking. The inflamed ignorance you have and the lifted up personality you possess will not help you on the day of judgment. Remember this conversation in the Lake of fire.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 Honestly, its way more powerful to provide actual counterpoints instead of saying read a book
You can tell he is telling the truth because its pissing so many people off.
*"You can tell he is telling the truth because its pissing so many people off."*
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What's pissing so many people off is the inane, bullshit he spouts to prop up his acceptance of bronze age, middle eastern goat herder creation mythology.
Christians are supposed to be salt and light. Salt irritates, preserves from corruption, etc. and light makes darkness go bye-bye. People reject the KJV of the Bible because of their lust, not because of their science, even though they claim it is. They just don't wanna give up fornication, adultery in their hearts and in real action, lying, etc.
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What's irritating is inanity presented as science. What's irritating is to hear a pseudoscientist like Lisle (he once was a scientist or at least a student of science) telling people that real science which shows a universe about 13.8 billion years old is pseudoscience.
This is what happens when someone decides to consider bronze age, middle eastern goat herder creation mythology as reality and the ultimate authority.
He's intelligent enough to have earned a PhD in astrophysics from the University of Colorado (Boulder) but all the while he was merely going through the motions. He presented work as true (it was) when he actually believed it to be false as it contradicted his religious book.
+Seen From Space *"Not quite getting the lust connection with this topic."*
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Well, it's the desire non-Christians have for a real understanding of the world and universe around us, as opposed to the Christians' bronze age, middle eastern goat herder creation mythology version.
To Christians, this is an _unnatural desire_ and thus a form of lust.
+Nunya Bizz I tend to get more upset when I get lied too, not when people tell me the truth.
Atheism is not due to an intellectual shortcoming, it's due to an emotional one: pride, which manifests as rebellion against God and his Truth.
Nope. Atheism is the discovery that the claim that god(s) is real are not supported by any credible evidence.
Positive claims require positive evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and claims asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.
@@walkergarya - The Bible is easily proved by its hundreds of fulfilled prophecies to be "not of men" but of a supernatural source. In other words, Atheists or 'uneducated goat herders' cannot accurately predict the future.
Of course, this isn't something that biblically-illiterate fools would know... even if they wanted to. :)
@@walkergarya - By the way, your reply proves that what I said about Atheists being prideful is true. Thank you very much. :)
@@imayberight1435 Nope. The "biblical prophecies" are bunk. Vaguely worded statements with no dates that could be filled by any number of events, some of them written after the events in question and many never fulfilled, like the destruction of Tyre by Nebbercannezzer.
@@imayberight1435 No fool, I am not "prideful", I simply hate lies and liars. Your bible is the lie and you are a liar.
"I can't disprove the existence of an undetectable comet generator" hahahahah, that was really good :) :) And it really made me LAUGH :)
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Sounds great, does´t it? But actually Dr. Lisle is misleading you here. The Oort cloud (hypothetical and undetected - not untedectable) is a byproduct of the astrophysical models of the origin of the solar system. Comets are seen as a hint (only a hint!) this model has substance. So before you LAUGH think.
@@norbertjendruschj9121 evidence for this supposed byproduct? and evidence that the solar system formed the way these supposed astrophysical models say the solar system came to be? honest question. thank you!
@@juilianbautista4067 Honest question, honest answer. I am not a professional astronomer but a geophysicist, so don´t expect my explanations to be comprehensive.
The fundamental problem is: Nobody of us was around when the solar system formed. So how can we know anything about this period? And there are indeed two possibilities which are completely independent.
1) We watch other sun systems, especially young stars with an aggregation disc. With the new telescopes with adaptive optics (Keck on Hawaii and the VLR in Chile) and the Hubble Space Telescope it is possible to watch hundreds of star systems in different phases of planet formation. And what we see fits quite nicely with the astrophysical models.
2) And then you have computer simulations. Make plausible assumptions about the starting conditions, apply Newton´s laws of mechanics, let a super computer work the numbers and look at the results. And even without looking at these models (which supports the existence of the Oort cloud), you can deduce from first principles that there should be a lot of left-over small bodies in the outer regions of the solar system in a spherical distribution: The density in this huge volume was and is to low for planets to form and the interactions between these small bodies are to rare to flatten the sphere to a disc as haapened in the inner part of the system.
By the way: Each year new comets are found - where to these come from?
I hope I could satisfy your curiosity at least a bit. But if you really want to make your mind up I am afraid you have to read much more about this topic than the few lines I wrote above.
I wish you a nice Easter time and please stay safe in these pandemic times.
And excuse my English, I am not a native speaker.
To tackle the question from a more theological and philosophical standpoint: Isn´t it a fundamentally flawed idea to prove the supernatural (God) by the natural (physics and biology)? 1600 years ago the immensely influencial church father Augustinus of Hippo wrote his famous book "City of God". In this he developed the idea of the two sources of knowledge available to men: Faith and nature. And as nature is a creation of God, any perceived contradiction between the two can only be caused by either a misunderstanding of the word of God or a misunderstanding of nature. I am convinced that a literal interpretation of the Bible as Dr. Lisle proposes it is a grotesque misunderstanding of faith. In a way it is no faith at all.
A renowned detective would say, eventually, to another more circonspicuous colleague: You may cry out or not, but it doesn't change having a deadlock around your neck. He, most certainly, agrees with you, Dr. Jason Lisle.
I truly wish that all Christians could preach, explain, and reason as clearly as Dr. Lisle. What an amazing gift that God has blessed Dr. Lisle with. What an awesome God we serve that creates minds!
He's pretty awesome at creating cancer, poverty, torture, loneliness and child abuse too - quite the multitasker, isn't he?
@Nok Ko I'm not playing God. Your made-up sky daddy created these abominations. I support humanitarians and doctors to try and sort out the hideous mess your 'god' has made.
@Nok Ko jesus h christ, could you miss the point any more if you tried?
@@midlander4 So you're mad at a sky daddy that doesnt exist in your own words ? That sounds like something you should get help for.... what mess has God made if God doesnt exist.
I never understood why _preaching_ is considered a great virtue among religious believers. Wouldn't it be much more impressive if he could really _reason_ and _argue_ instead having to _persuade by nice stories_ ?
Praise and Glory to the Father and the Son.
"6 days". A day is the time between two passages of the Sun over a fixed point, such as the horizon. So before the Sun was made, what was a day?
Or one full revolution of the earth.
God created the day and night and the earth turning around. He does not need sun for that.
One full revolution of the earth is a day, whether or not the sun was there. God Himself is light and could have provided the light.
folks never quite get it ...the GOD of the universe is just that...description...Larger than the universe, knows how to build a universe with sound and energy, has always been, and always will be,..knows the end from the beginning (ours Obviously), and does what he wants, without asking us....and frankly, when you "look at the universal constants..and the complexity of a living bio cell, He is the "only" rational conclusion...and no everybody is not going to see it...even though he told us over 2000 years ago..."the slain of the Lord will be from one end of the earth to the other" and spent the entire 20th century proving it, we are informed in the same passages that people would deny and stay dumb
You need to read the Bible. God never said a day is 24 hours, in fact He makes it very clear by stating a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. God called light day and darkness night. Leave it at that. We are told not to add too or subtract from God's Word. The lesson to learn from the Bible is that time is RELATIVE! Einstein proved that. Now when God create the universe He stretched it out creating spacetime. The greater the expansion of space, the greater expansion of time. That's how when we look back in time it's seems like billions of years to us today because to travel back to the beginning would take billions of years travelling at the speed of light. That's do to the stretching of spacetime, which happened in God's time. The word for day in Hebrew is yom and it has four different meanings one being a long finite period of time. It also can mean the daylight hours, part of the daylight hours, and the length of one rotation of the earth, which is slowing down! Nothing to do with 24 hours. Maranatha
God Bless you, Jason!
+What Is Your Worldview? - Creation or Evolutionism?
Yes, bless you Jason. I thought that light from very distant galaxies billions of light years away reaching earth disproved a universe about 6000 years old. But thanks to you and your God given wisdom, you've taught me that light travels *_to_* earth at speeds greatly in excess of the speed of light and travels *_away_* from the earth at very slow speeds and it only *_averages_* the speed of light!! Neat!! So, this proves Biblical accuracy!! Bless you Jason!!
Fuck God haha. Fakeeeee
Awesome study!
I should also add that it is a refreshing change to see the comments section open for this video as many of the creationist ones have comments turned off. I suspect that it might be because creationists groups fear logical criticism of their meaningless enterprise.
No, comments are off to limit-prevent the vituperative comments from rabid opposition uninterested in respectful exchange of ideas.
Why is their enterprise "meaningless" even if you don't agree with their views or theories ? Even arguing that leprechauns are real or that the Earth is flat would not be "meaningless".
May the Lord bless you with more understanding and more wisdom to give a big blow to the atheists scientists!
there is actually thousands of theist scientists on the planet rite now...the atheists are playing to the money..cuz that's what unregenerate people do...:--}
Woooooooooooooooooo!!! Yeah baby that's what I'm talking about! Thank you so much for this video.
Embrace your inner child.
This is wisdom
Sorry but this is lies.
Im convinced that wisdom has to do with NOT being able to rationalize your own upbringing,
not to realize that you cant even question your brainwashing is your loss
I lived for forty years basically an atheist, two divorces and three kids that hate my guts
Ive come back home to my Catholic faith and its a miracle what has happened in my life!
Your ok Sly, dont bother to ans comments like these, theyre lost and they will remain that way!
al meggs I raised my son as an Atheist and I have his respect and love.
I raised him to be skeptical of claims and to look at evidence, not to swallow nonsense blindly.
good
how abt his wives and grandchildren?
al meggs He is 22, not yet married and I have no grandchildren, no teen pregnancies because he had a moral sex education that was based on facts, not commandments from a bronze age book.
Praise God for your work Dr. Lisle. I hope to finish a Doctorate soon, and move on to teaching at a Seminary.
A doctorate in Bible study?
@@IIrandhandleII better than lesbian dance theory or CRT 🤡🤡👌🏻👌🏻
@@IIrandhandleII Yep ... in fiction and Fables....
@@laszlokiss483 Lesbians exist.....
@@laszlokiss483 they are of equal value
Another excellent lecture by Dr. Lisle, it is interesting that atheist attempt to stand upon Biblical morality to object to the existence of God. It's like objecting to the existence of air while breathing it, great point!
athiests don't stand on anything to reject the existence of a god. They reject it for the same reason you probably aren't a Muslim, and for the same reason you don't believe in one of the many other religions.
There just isn't any proof or evidence for any of them.
+DaneStolthed It has nothing to do with an "atheist attempt" at anything. That is Lisle's excuse. There are people of all faiths and no faith who do leading edge research in all the sciences. Research that clearly shows that the Genesis stories are nothing but mythology and mans interpretation of the world 2-3000 years ago.
Lisle provides nothing to the scientific community in the form of data, analysis, research and experiments that support his claims. It is easier for him to blame someone else for his stupidity and present nonsense to people (fundy churches) who don't know any better because they just want to "believe".
+tyler durden Tyler! HowDARE you utter the truth! Creationists are morons.
+terry z Who moved the stone?
fearlesscrusader What stone? The one supposedly sealing the cave in which Jesus is supposedly buried?
This is brilliant!!!
Awesome
Loved his book and the lecture was informative too..
No lol it isnt informative. It is misrepresenting every single thing he says. And him talking about the "lack of evidence" for anything scientific.... Is laughable. All he can do is point to a couple things that are difficult to believe (even though its been proven true) and say there is no evidence. If we are comparing evidence... Its funny how he has no evidence himself..
@@mrdgenerate First establish your epistemology, and then argue against Dr. Lisle's view. You'll notice that your worldview does not even allow for the possibility of knowledge.
@@lupinthe4th400 my worldview doesnt allow for the possibility of knowledge? Are you on crack?
@@mrdgenerate depends what your worldview is. If you are an atheist, it does not. Perhaps you could establish your epistemology first, and see for yourself. How does your worlview account for logic, uniformity of nature and morality?
@@lupinthe4th400 you're trying to use a bunch of fancy rhetoric to hide the fact that you are debating a side that you not only cannot prove, but have zero evidence for. Good luck chump.
And one more thing - Mr Lisle is immensely intelligent and a HUGE PLUS to him for his confidence. Respect Dr. Lisle :)
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So you believe people because of their intelligence do you. They are way more people, more intelligent than he, who completely disagree with his nonsense. Do you believe them?
@@TheHairyHeathen appeal to popularity fallacy... there were way more people who were smarter than you that believed the earth to be flat, do you believe them ?
@@TheHairyHeathen Excuse me, are you talking to me?
@@LightningJackFlash - nobody else
I wish U would have met A. E. Wilder-Smith. Thank you so much for Yr videos.
I noticed some videos have comments disabled. How can I ask Dr Lisle a question?
Dr. Lisle is so amazing, but I don't recommend trying to reason with lost people. Wait until they ask first.
If you use his arguments, I wouldn't recommend "reasoning" with people either... he doesn't understand it himself...
@@silknfeathers Is that right? And your phD is from where? He's an astrophysicist, bro.
I couldn't care less if he were the head of NASA, his logical arguments just aren't...
@@silknfeathers Such as?
@@kpec3 As a very basic start, he uses the term "information" incorrectly, then goes on to justify how it fits with the bible using this flawed definition (if he really is a scientist he either knows this and is being deceptive or does not realise, in which case he should give up his doctorate). This, in logical reasoning, is what's known as a strawman. He consistently uses these throughout. Pathetic...
thank you
He has been debunked by other scientists. Maybe you should look at the responses from him peers. He's the laughing stock of his field
Okay so were is this ultimate proof of creation?
The evidence of God creating the universe and everything around us is plain to see (Romans 1). It's just a matter of whether or not people are willing to accept it. Seeing as we are part of a fallen race that is in rebellion towards God, it's not something that we want to believe. However, it is truth nonetheless.
You can't believe the ramblings of ancient writers......why accept it as truth....this makes no sense.
You may be part of a fallen race, but I'm better than that, thanks.
Boglerun ok. So pride keeps you from accepting the truth? There are three things that can sway us away from God. The pride of life, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes. You've chosen the pride of life.
"Bogle" means "a devil" or negative spirit.
It may be that either he is not a soul of mankind, or it may be that a bogle has taken sway over his mind or a bit of it.
@@steveparks2976 May I ask why is evident that God created the universe? Explain, please.
I loved this if only people would open there hearts and minds they would see the truth is there and has always been
I see the truth of our animal nature and how it explains religious nonsense. Anyone with an open heart should heartily reject the Bible as all but the tiniest part of it is tribalistic, which is a gene driven desire.
@@histreeonics7770 You are saying a creator has no right to say "sin results in death." So, by that assumption, sinful beings should then be immortal, and their evil should compound forever, and if it causes suffering, then the person should suffer forever.
I open my mind to actual scientific evidence. Something that this guy does not have. You listen to him because he agrees with what you already think is true and yet the bulk of scientists do not accept what he says. So you are ignoring thousands and thousands and thousands of scientists that think he's full of shit and you are ignoring actual evidence that goes against this because you disagree with it. But you find one person that happens to agree with you and think that he trumps everyone else when he is the laughingstock of his field
@@thickerconstrictor9037 I find it interesting that a comment like this warranted your quick little passion-filled rant about nothing. A comment that actually had to do with the interesting points Jason actually brought up doesn't seem to get a peep from a wise guy, like yourself.
Always has been
I remember wondering how comets lasted so long with all that material flying off when I was in middle school.
I’m a Christian, so I agree with your basic conclusions. But saying no one is neutral and we should not be neutral, but then stating we should examine or presuppositions to see is they’re true is itself a description of being neutral.
What happened to the Voyagers concerning the "ort cloud"?
Great video. Intelligent design is certainly provable and backed by hard evidence. There's a good reason why creationism is alive and flourishing. Too bad the naysayers on here apparently didn't watch the video. Great work!
Actually no it's not provable. That's why the vast majority of scientists don't agree with it. You pick one that does but ignore the thousands and thousands that don't. Even scientists that Arceus typically leave God out of their science because it's just not demonstrable. There is no evidence. It's just claim after claim after claim that's why his hypothesis if you can even call it that, is not supported by other scientists. It's a joke and he's an embarrassment to the field. And actually you say it's alive and well, and that's true because even if we could just prove God right now, there would still be millions of people that would believe. I have been told that no matter what proof we have to go against God that people will still believe no matter what. And that's pathetic. You say that it's alive and well, but so are conflicting beliefs do you think those are true too? And if you look at the statistics there are less and less Believers every single year. There will be a day where everyone will look at Christianity and all the other religions just like they do mythology such as Zeus. There is no more evidence for your beliefs than there is for Zeus or any of the other gods. It's embarrassing that grown adults still believe this bullshit. Maybe you should stop listening to the one scientists that agrees with you and start listening to the bulk of science that think it's pathetic and a joke and actually based their lives on real evidence. Something that God does not have. If there was actually evidence for God people would not need to have faith And it would be taught in science classrooms across the world and it would be accepted as fact by everyone. And it's not and it never will be.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 nice rant.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 Appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy that isnt proof of anything....
'Ultimate proof' is itself an unscientific notion. These people have not grasped the very basics of the scientific method.
@Han Solo
There have been many scientific consensus' that were proven completely wrong such as the one that the Universe is eternal.
Follow the money. You would be very surprised on how much of a consensus you get if your grant depends on it. ;) Learn how to think critically. Your notion of antivaxers I guess corresponds not to a recent redefinition of the term. It used to be "person that refuses any type of the vax" to now "a person that denies vax". (Corona joke.vax in particular) There is lot more than 1% of the doctors that won't recommend the corona crap nonsense. Those who open their mouth usually lose their jobs. So much to your consensus ideas...
Not all information goes back to the mind of a sender. The thermal signature put off by a chemical reaction would be considered information (especially when trying to confirm a temperature for said chemical reaction) does not originate from a known sender in any way. That information comes solely from the reaction itself.
Just also going to throw out that in order to photograph the Oort Cloud, we'd have to travel 100000au (or approximately 1.5 light years/9 trillion miles) away to even hit the outside of the cloud. Let alone how far away you'd have to travel after that to get a picture of the whole thing because of it's size.
Huh. Sounds a lot like you have a firm belief in something you can't see, can't prove, have no evidence for, and will never be able to bring back proof of even if it did exist ... sounds like someone has ... what's that word? Oh yeah, faith.
What you have to accept is that there are people in this world who have opposing worldviews: A secular world view and a Christian Creation world view. Two people can look at the same exact evidence and come to completely different conclusions, based upon their worldview. In today's world, the word tolerance has a new meaning. There is nothing I can say that will change your worldview. God, through His Holy Spirit, can draw you to him if you are really searching, but as Christians we are called to have a defense for the Hope that is in us, with meekness and trembling, which is translated as being civil and respectful to the other person. That comes from 1 Peter 3: 15. I have never led anyone to Christ by hitting them over the head with a Bible, or the turn or burn message. I have used my knowledge of the Laws of Thermodynamics (Kelvin was a Christian Creationist by the way) and in DNA to answer questions, but it will not persuade someone if they have hardened their heart enough to not be reached. Take care.
I think he would say (or at least I would) that all of the organization in matter (including the organization of chemical elements and the forces by which they interact) is created by a Mind (God's mind, who created all things)---and therefore even that chemical or heat information originates with a mind. .....In a random world, there would be NO consistent information to be learned from chemistry.
Just because there is a creator or creators does it mean there is a God. The iPhone I am composing this message on had numerous creators. They could care less about me or the iPhone I’m using.
In Paul's time some philosophers believed ONLY ATOMS EXIST IN THE VOID THERE ARE NO GOD S. ( DEMOCRITUS) Some things Never change
There should be a conference where you spend a whole morning or a whole day listening to this brilliant man.
Brillant man? He tells a lot of nonsense. And I am sure he knows it. But the paycheck from Christian fundamentalists tops his conscience as a scientist. So sad!
I don’t think he is brilliant. He is certainly beguiling and a fan of the gullible. He is actually distorting what science is about and how it works. He is a master of casuistry. Some might suggest that he is lying to his audience. Actually, creationism is irrelevant to science - just a noise in a corner of the room where science and logic endeavour to progress.
Lots of accusations, any examples for your bold claims?
@@tonygarrett7214- If we all came together from hydrogen then what basis would we have to trust our logic? I find it interesting how virtually every single discipline of science was founded by creationists and yet today the creationists are all accused of being unscientific. In order to do science or logic we must borrow from the theistic worldview. Even the Atheist needs theism or they are just an “A” with a hole.
@@boxelder9167, That just means that a Christian doesn’t have to believe in a 6000 year old universe.
Funny. Atheists tell you that you cant believe in God because theres no observable evidence of a God, yet they will use unobserved theories to argue that evolution is the answer. Then say you're silly for having faith. lol
Droz R
You are confused. Thee is no conflict between a belief in god and evolution. The Catholic church accepts evolution because of the overwhelming evidence in its favour.
@Zodiac Tiger
Well said.
Droz R haha that's a great quote.. I must use it. :)
Droz R but, there's evidence of God everywhere
@@myleslawless6594 the catholic church accepts it because the catholic church is not a Christian church. it is a cult led by the antichrist who claims to be God on earth and able to forgive sins. that is blasphemy and proves that that church is not of God so of course they do what God would not accept.
thank you.
I waited for the ultimate proof so it could help me in talking to others . Please state what the ultimate proof is at the begining and then throw in the reasons why it is the ultimate proof after.
'Ultimate proof' is itself an unscientific notion. These people have not grasped the very basics of the scientific method.
I think it is comets, and that they only exist for a short period, of time, ergo....the universe is not billions of years old...
His "ultimate proof" is that even to argue AGAINST the Bible you have to BELIEVE that what the Bible teaches is true !-----Because the Bible teaches that the universe is predictable and reliable ; that our senses are reliable ; that there is a reason why logic works, etc. .....A random universe CAN'T explain any of those things.
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well, how would you put paganism in this?
@@stahu_mishima Paganism in this? The truth is like a virus ,and people won't want the cure for it that is Jesus .
@@MrSilverballmania how's that responding to what I said? I do also worship Jesus (or more properly Yeshua) of Nazareth, you know.
Loved the video! Sad to see atheists lose respect for him and ridicule him all because he stopped believing the way they do.
I quit giving him any credence when I could disprove one of his pet theories simply by rotating my cell phone.
His theory of light having a directional dependence fails the simplest of tests using a radio.
I am sorry that you don't understand enough of science to realize that he (grossly* misrepresents it in his youtube videos.
FYI: I am a designer of computers, seismic data exploration equipment, and chemo-analytical equipment none of which would have worked if Dr. Lisle's theories had any validity to them.
@@histreeonics7770 Hey Skippy if you really think your the bomb and can zip DR. Lyle's mouth then challenge him to a debate, that is if you are who you say you are!
He never did believe the way they do (an absolutely garbage worldview), thankfully.
Mark Holladay The bottom line is that the creation event was supernatural, and science will never be able to construct a working model for it as a result.
@@PaDutchRunner
Close, but I think what you meant to say is that creation is purely *_imaginary_* and that is why it can't be tested by science. Science can test for real things, but as of yet, it cannot test fantasies.
John 6:44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day." Sometimes it can be frustrating when you are trying to convert someone to Christianity, and it may seem like they jus choose not to believe. But ultimately it is God's choice who comes the man Christ Jesus.
So is there evidence of the OORT cloud to date?
No.
no
They will simply cite the existence of modern comets as proof of the Oort cloud
27:10 The way to know that the bible is true or not is to ask the author. The author is God through his servants the prophets. The first 5 books were written by Moses. He didn't write what he thought was true, he wrote the words that God gave him to write. Read whatever scripture you want and then ask God in prayer if it is true. He will tell you. But you have to do it with a sincere heart and will real intent or it doesn't work. Knowing and believing in the scriptures is a personal and spiritual matter not provable by arguing with someone about it.
+Quail Studios Tutorials That's the same baseless assertion that ever fanatic of every religion claims to be true.
There is zero evience that any Moses ever wrote anything.
Believing is a choice you make, not a fact based on evidence.
+odinata Those that don't ask, won't know. It's a fact. The tradition about a world wide flood. Let's talk about that for a moment. If that never happened, why is there an oral tradition handed down from one generation to another in tribes, in all the different countries all over the world?
These tribes of ancient people in the Americas, Asia, Africa, Australia, the islands of the pacific... the list goes on and on, the different cultures are not related, and had no contact with each other, but the oral traditions talk about a world wide flood that happened at one time.
Oral traditions are how mankind, in the past, remembered their important past and how they preserved their identity. Western cultures write things down. Anyone can say, "I don't believe that." That's easy to do. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean that it didn't happen, or doesn't exist, right?
I can't see your brain, therefore you don't have one, true? We all know that is NOT a fact.
I don't believe in gravity, therefore it doesn't exist and has no effect on me. We all know that is NOT a fact.
Part of the reason we are here in this life is to walk by faith. Faith - a hope of things which are not seen, which are true.
We have choice given to us by God. We can choose to believe or not. I'm not trying to convince you.
You can take the red pill, or the blue pill.
Knock knock, Neo.
*****
Name one single "oral tradition".
Cite your source.
If the Noah story were true, there wouldn't be other cultures to talk about a Flood.
You can drink the church Koolad, Hal.
But there is no evidence for Noahs Flood.
Even a child knows its a story.
+odinata I thought that the knowledge of the oral traditions of native peoples around the world was common knowledge. Apparently not.
Many native peoples have stories of a great flood. They differ greatly and there are different people involved and different ways in which they were saved from the flood. The details about this flood are not important but the fact that there are hundreds of stories about a world wide flood in many different lands is significant.
Here is a link to look at: nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html
Noah had 3 sons. They had wives. After the flood they had children and spread throughout all the earth.
***** You thought you could make an assertion without providing the proof.
You've cited a Creationist website as your source.
That won't do.
PS, Don't you think its funny that none of those native myths contain the most important part of the Noah myth...god.
Genetics proves that the natives of the Earth are not related to the people of Noah.
Institute of creation research. Where all failed scientists end up.
How do you know he is failure scientist? He is summa cum laude at a secular university of Colorado. Yet they critic his works based on his research on his belief.
@@ataglance60 Decent working scientists have their published work cited thousands of times. Other scientists/professionals use their work to advance their own in an effort to expand genuine human knowledge. If your work is not cited, it usually means it's of poor quality that no one finds a use for. Secular university academics would be more than happy to use/cite creation research if it actually had some kind of explanatory power.
mandelbrot set is the number of LOVE!
It seems to me that there are three things that most people would hold as fundamentally true and when examined seem obvious even to a child but these things are simply not often considered.The first is that love should be unconditional. In fact, this statement is misleading because love, in order to be love at all, must rather than should be unconditional. I think the confusion arises in that love will always be unconditional but in human experience can reach its limits. While before doing so, it was unconditional and afterward has failed. This creates the impression that love can have conditions.Most people though if they are asked the question would say this is exactly the point at which the love was most necessary.
Take a young couple in love and with a bright future a car accident and a life-altering injury and later a love that fails. We can all relate and each of us if in that position would say it was just at that point we would need love most of all. Yet, on the other hand, we couldn't say if faced with such a need we could be equal to it.The second thing curious about love considering the statement that it must be unconditional is why the first question most people consider when hearing the words I love you is why?We have a difficult relationship with love but it is clear to me that no one I have ever met is indifferent. The understanding is deep, intimate, fundamental, and I think when Scripture speaks of God being known by all it is to this intuitive knowledge it is referring. God is after all according to that same scripture LOVE; that is not to say God loves as an act but rather that He is LOVE, its source just as He is life, truth, wisdom and so on. When we love we are moved by a force and I am saying God is that Force. Not that this should be considered as a statement that God in any less personal but rather that His being causes certain realities to be true and that Love is one of those.One other point I would like to make to those who would say what kind of monster must the Christian God be to have created a place like hell where He sends those who fail to love Him correctly....Hell is a place without God, that is all it needs to be to be hell and that is all it is.A place filled to the brim with soles living together for eternity incapable of love, truth, and so on.Not a place I would want to visit never mind live, for the sake of us all He gave up His Son that we could escape the fate and Yeshua went to a cross to open the way for us all. All you need do is receive faith as a gift to be saved. As stated in this presentation faith is knowledge of that which cant be experienced by human senses it comes as a result of encountering God personally. Something that everyone who seeks to know Him will experience.There isn't a skill testing question or a possibility that when He sees you He turns away saying no not him/her. He loves you all you need to do is want to be loved and have the courage to say so. It doesn't even need t be out load,
Well said !
I LOVE THIS!!!
Great video and great truth! Praise God!
Thanks
How is your major premise affected by AI, and is its original programming important?
18:46 his story about the guy being dead... IS LITERALLY WHAT CHRISTIANS DO!!!!! It is beyond frustrating watching someone explain exactly what they're doing wrong... claiming it's what everyone else does lol like NOOOO that's what YOU do!!!! Gaaaahh leeee
It sounds like you missed the entire point of the story. People interpret evidence through their worldview. Including Christians. That was the whole point.
Only the word of God can save.
There is no "word of god", it was all written by people.
Amen 🙏
The ultimate reason for not believing in God is notorious primaeval FEAR OF THE TRUTH.
Fear is a primal emotion in every single human, from which emanate and derive all other ambitions, passions and second-hand emotions. Even in the christian world, the paradigm of faith is set on the wrong basis. The real question is: ''Do you believe God'', instead of ... do you believe IN God. Blueprints of Creation are all around us, and nobody can wipe them out, just because of unbelieving. Because of FEAR, many non-believers want to stay in excuse '' Ignorance is a blessing'', because from that position there is no call for responsibility. But God set in advance the paradigm of existance, and paradigm of ignorance, in a way that cannot be refuted, by all means. That's why He is God, and we are not. It's not so difficult to believe in the existence of God, but it is difficult to obey his word. But fear not ... God promised something unimaginable for those who believe and obey his Word. .............................................. If you believe in a God who doesn't exist, you haven't lost anything ... but if you don't believe in a God who exists - you lost ALL. That's the way it is ... that's all about common sense.
The main reason for not believing in any god is that there's not sufficient evidence to believe that any of them exist at all.
Do you also believe in Zeus and Odin? If you do you haven't lost anything, if you don't you're going to Valhalla or Hades!!!! Common sense!
@@Bc232klm ... Dear friend ... off course I believe in existance of 'Zeus' or even 'Odin' as those as spiritual entities created by supreme God of the universe, which rebelled against Him, by the persuasion of Satan. Unfortunately I don't have all day on disposal to give you a detailed insight about that topic. ( but .. it's mindblowing revelation ... believe me). Anyway, I still have enough time to give you an approach to thesis '' sufficient evidence'', based on common sense on a daily bases.
Can you throw rocks in the ocean and expect to catch a tuna?
Obviously not ... because you don't have an appropriate fishing tool. But you can refute this by saying: ''That's the ''sufficient evidence'' for non-existence of a tuna in the ocean at all''
, by the evident lack of a tuna in your boat.
Can you catch a tuna in the Everglades swamps, even though you have an appropriate fishing hook? Obviously not, because you choose the wrong fishing spot. But you can also refute this by saying: ''That's the ''sufficient evidence'' for non-existence of an appropriate fishing tool at all'', by the evident lack of a tuna in your boat.
But, you can catch a tons of tuna by throwing a fishing hook into the ocean, and observe your boat full of fish, and when you wake up, there is not a single ounce of the fish besides your bed, because you caught the fish in another 'realm of reality'. Is that a ''sufficient evidence'' of non-existence of a tuna in the ocean?
Therefore ... there are several criteria to be fulfilled simultaneously, in order to come up with something called ''sufficient evidence'' of existence. These are, observation tool ... object (subject) of observation ... realm of reality.
The lack of only one of these criteria implies the complete impossibility of objectively proving existence or non-existence of anything.
Don't be afraid my friend and step up in spiritual realm of reality of your own self-existence by knowing God at the first hand.
The only sufficient evidence that proves God's existence, is an evident blueprint of creation, in everything that souround us, even in a physical realm of reality. You don't need to search any further than physical reality, to find the evidence of creation.
I don't intend to push you into religiosity ( God forbid !!!)... because religiosity is a belief in someone else's experience, while spirituality comes from your own experience. Let nobody to deceive you. This is between you and God alone... and the only mediator is God Himself. His name is Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, and He is available to you, until the end of the world.
I respect this dude alot and his theory are compelling. I'm a born again believer, but I lean more toward the theory of an old earth. And a time gap between the days in genesis. Day is just a period of time. The math, the theory of relativity basically can be used to predict anything in the universes location back to a picosecond after the "big bang". Inflation, all that stuff still fits in. God spoke into existence the universe, that's the big bang. Then he expanded the universe to its current size, all the complex things he did, what would 24 hours or 15 billion years of difference matter to an eternal God. He may of observed 15 billion years of changes happen in a single day, I suppose. Basically it says a day and 1000 years are the same to God, so to me this makes me think, that day in genesis is more of period of time. God certainly made all existence, and to me its sad that people willingly believe the universe just randomly appeared out of nothing, yet cannot see that so clearly it was God. If my opinion is wrong, so be it. We all will find out in heaven so long as you trust in Jesus christ and his death, burial, and resurection as payment for your sins
What a load of nonsense!
OMG, , that is the funniest show on earth!
I've watched all these videos that say proof of creation and not a single video offers actual proof. There's a reason it's called faith.
I watch these all the time what about this isn't proof. Comets and starts burn away there are material with half life so short. These are called time limits and there's plenty of them. Billions of years yeah right
you're not old enough to have watched squat...I've been investigating for decades and have barely scratched the surface would be my guess...so,,,no...and you need to get started! you are way behind!
@@jimhughes1070 some will never believe, eh.....
@@philipbuckley759 my brother... I believe it was one of the apostles said "brute-beasts, ...."🥴
May not be 'proof', but he made a very strong argument.
Neil deGrasse Tyson would have a FIELD DAY with Little Jason!! 😂😂😂
God has given general revelation to all people, therefore, we are without excuse. Romans one
Only a fool says there is no God. It's evident.
That is such a ridiculous statement....There is no evidence for god, yet you believe it exists.....you are clearly the fool...it's obvious!
Boglerun only a blind person would say that and yet even a blind person has a conscience.
@@kennycouch6135 May I ask why existence of God is evident?
Matthew Davis, God didn't create us through Evolution. In the Book of Genesis he created us, not by monkeys or anything, so they can't correspond together.
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. (Genesis 1:26-27 NIV)
Sgt Skittles
How did god create a woman from a rib which would have contained only male DNA ?
Adam and Eve's offspring would have been guilty of incest when they procreated. This would have continued through the generations so that humans would have become extinct through disease.
Do you ever think about these things ?
Sgt. Skittles amen
Sgt. Skittles nothing is impossible with God
@@CodeRed-md3ny If God created every specie to have offspring within it's own specie, how can a horse and a donkey have an offspring?
@@goranmilic442 sometimes animals aren't the brightest of creatures and sometimes they will mate with other creatures. Basic DNA functions between many species are very similar.
Is grace irresistible in paradise?
Can you clarify the question? If you're asking if we're able to sin in Heaven, yes, our free will will be intact.
Do Christians agree that the Law of Non-Contradiction is true? If so, thats a neutral ground. If not, I’d be interested to hear why.
Why that's not a common ground rather than a neutral ground? Given that there is a Truth and everything comes from It, we should expect It to be absent of contradiction. I remember a quote from Galileo's letter to the Grand Duchess Christina of Tuscany. It was an essay written in 1615 to explain his adoption of the Copernican hypothesis on the configuration of the solar system (heliocentric model) and his still plain reading of the Bible. "For the Holy Bible and the phenomena of nature proceed alike from the divine Word... For since every truth is in agreement with all other truth, the truth of Holy Writ cannot be contrary to the solid reasons and experiences of human knowledge... two truths cannot contradict one another". It's crystal clear that this presupposes a Truth from which all other truth comes. It's also immediately clear that if all truth comes from a single Source, no truth can be contrary to all other truths since this would weaken the Source. Now... Instead, given there's no such thing as truth, how can anything be a contradiction in the first place? How do you define a non-contraction neutral ground when there's no absolute reference of truth, from which all things acquire meaning? If there's no absolute meaning in any assertion, why would we bother to establish a non-contradiction ground to discuss them? Of course, we can do it for fun and intellectual exercise. However, what is the meaning of doing so in a framework where meaning isn't even defined or, worst, is rejected? I'm not trying to answer your question. I'm just adding something from your inquiry, which I think is a nice one.
The Law of Non-Contradiction is itself evidence of a Rational Creator. If the universe was just a random accident, there would be no reason for it to be rational or predictable or logical at all.
This was brilliant!
+Brett Manning
Ehmm....No. It wasn't. It was utterly ludicrous.
opinion! No refutation though! Your bias betrays you. So you believe in the extremely lucky universe. Abiogenesis? Impossible odds. Luck doesn't bring life.
Brett Manning
"Luck doesn't bring life"? How do you know it doesn't?
Brett Manning
It clearly hasn't taken you 50 years!
The statement that diamonds are contaminated with C 14 is also a fallacy because the C 14 that it would allegedly be contaminated with would also be gone.
All you gave was a word fart. Give your evidence that the labs that tested various samples did not know what they were doing and missed the contamination so it gave faulty readings. YOU know what you're doing but they did not. Prove it.
2fast2block do you know the half life of c-14? Do you understand how c-14 gets into plants and humans?
Just wish you would have spent more time on "The Ultimate Proof" instead of talking about lesser things. In fact, you "had to hurry" and skipped the parts I wanted to hear most.
...and an interesting observation reading down is the point on no neutrality - this applies to Christians looking out to the world, because it has to - Christ said it. But if you read down these comments isn't it interesting that most of the antagonists agree as well! Their words and at some points their abuse - it isn't neutral. So perhaps they're more honest on threads like these than when they try to play the cool calm headed scientific based thinkers elsewhere. atheism in many , is also religion. And it has its zealots.
I'll bet you're going to beak down now and have a big blubbery cry, and claim that you are being so terribly persecuted, not because you have less rights or privileges than anybody else (depending on where you live you are probably MORE privileged), but because you can't forcibly impose your bigoted tribalistic beliefs onto everyone else.
I love icr. One of my favorite resources for creationism. Here's a link to their website for anyone who is interested.
www.icr.org/homepage/
Funny he has possible explanations for a couple hyper specific subjects... and says theres no visible evidence for the oort cloud... so it must not exist. But god on the other hand.... like cmon dude.
I’d definitely encourage you to watch a few more videos. He discusses a ton of subjects. Not to launch into a huge comment section debate, but just for clarification- God is Spirit and the Creator of Time, Space, and Matter. He’s not confined to either three. He exists within and outside of all three simultaneously as Spirit, so limiting the evidence of His existence only to wether or not our 5 senses can perceive of His physical presence is approaching the subject (as Lisle says) with the wrong presupposition. The Oort Cloud on the other hand is a purely physical, Time, Space, and Matter-bound physical collection of comets in which the theory of it’s existence meets none of the standards of scientific verification… “Not to launch into a huge comment section debate” *proceeds to write a paragraph* lol sorry for the length.
@@lewisedwards4058 lol dont worry... nobody is going to waste their time arguing with you lol I promise
@@mrdgenerate Wow, it's refreshing to see an atheist who actually welcomes debate and doesn't resort to childish insults ... oh wait. Never mind.
@@lauraandrews1676 ya my paragraph explaining why it was dumb and a non equivalent meant nothing... my super rude "like cmon dude" showed my true colors... LMAO
@@mrdgenerate You atheists cannot even prove he wrote that article or even that I indeed wrote this comment yet demand that God be proven to you or be made simple LMFAO 🤡🤡😂😂
How, exactly, does one make an internal critique of a worldview where knowledge isn't possible?
What? what?I can tell you the doctrinal beliefs of sooo many belief systems on this planet...including various and sundry athiest "faiths"...however ludicrous they may appear...
@@jimhughes1070 The point is, to be mistaken you need to be mistaken about something, like a belief. However, if you don't know anything at all, then you can't know what you believe (or even believe anything at all) and there is nothing for you to be mistaken about.
It'd be like trying to argue that a radish or the planet Saturn made a mistake.
Actually, you can disprove the Ort Cloud. How? Because comets' orbits are all vastly different. If they all came from the same "cloud", they would have very similar orbits!
That's not true at all. Why would you think that?
@@Bc232klm Here is an image of the orbits of Halley Comet, Comet Tempel1 and Comet Hyakutake, for example. You can see that their orbits are drastically different thus making it impossible to have the same point of origin. In fact one has a 5 year orbit while one has a 17,000 year orbit.
www.awesomestories.com/images/user/bb9048c84ec9fef6bd1f57920ae6db66.jpg
Science is a religion because it takes faith/theory to believe.
Psalms 118:8 is the exact center of the KJV
Praise God in Jesus name, amen.
>> Science is a religion because it takes faith/theory to believe.
It's cheap to claim that the authors of the bible were "inspired by god" and scientists were not.
That's called a bias.
The difference between religion and science is, that the results of scientific research can be checked.
Of course, that's something that creationists must refuse to do in order to keep up their delusion.
Very thoughtful, I appreciate this, thank you
Does he have a Facebook group
Jason, not having a bias is not a bias....end of
You seem to be pretty bias in that answer.
I like Lisle he talks a lot of sense that _makes_ a lot of sense, unless you're an eejit (evolutionist)
I have been saying where are your references for the last few hours that I have been watching your videos because, I don’t believe anything I’m told without checking your references.
Thank you for the references at 26:00
A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST is ALL that matters! Proving things doesn't save Anybody! Arguing ABOUT the Bible can be a very real Distraction from that relationship!
So truth isn't important to you?
Jesus created our minds too, and expects us to use them.
@@CarlMCole Absolutely!
Comets are not dirty snowballs. We took samples of Wild 2, shot at Temple 1 and landed on 67P, and all of them were rock with not enough water in the tail to do what they have said it does.
Otherwise I think you are correct, and I do like what you say.
Impossible. If they were rock they wouldn't have tails (i.e. debris falling off behind them).
@@CarlMCole The ESA reported on their progress on 67P, a comet, and talked about comets as dirty snowballs until about half way throw the mission. One of their scientist was on one of the videos they put out saying there wasn't enough water on or in comets to supply water to the early Earth. The photos they took proved them wrong about 67P being a dirty snowball, but it still was a comet with a tail. That's why we call 67P a comet, because it does have a tail, and ESA found out it was made of rock.
Evolutionist need comets to be dirty snowballs, because they need them to supply water to the early Earth. If there is water or debris in the tail, then there are two tails. Look it up.
The problem with creationists is that when they choose to turn away from learning scientific techniques for understanding absolute objective reality, they think they’re smarter than the people who actually observe the data and know how to read it.
I was a young-earth creationist, and now I know that evolution is true. There’s no requirement for salvation that says you must ignore the reality of evolution. Doing so is just showing your arrogance as a human, that you really think you’re bigger than you actually are in the universe.
Creationism is false, deceitful, scientifically ignorant, willfully ignorant, and it isn’t required for salvation. So if anyone has any questions about planetary processes that they’d like to ask to a geologist, here’s your chance. Science doesn’t try to disprove God or make any such claim. It just uncovers the mechanisms found in nature.
Were the judgemental ones ? As opposed to atheists who think that they know every single secret that the universe has to offer. Some things cant be explained through science and logic, and the spiritual realm is one of them. In order to know the creator, you have to have faith. Christians see things differently to how athiests view the world. When someone has been born again, they see things on a deeper level than secularists, because their eyes have been opened to another more meaningful truth.
@@jennamcgregor9299 being a know-it-all isn’t the same as being open-minded (with the ability to disregard bs that’s as scientific as Swiss cheese).
@@jennamcgregor9299
One can claim pastors think they know every single secret that the universe has to offer.
Of course, you and I both know that's a mischaracterization of pastors. Only that you don't realize it for atheists.
I'm so glad you found out the truth. The one thing everyone has to learn is that the internet is no longer a tool for gaining knowledge. It's a tool only to confirm your worldview. There are articles and videos supporting anything. YEC, flat earth, anti-vax, etc. There's more misinformation than information on the internet.
@@surrealcereal948 yeah, but that claim is true. Even when pastors say they don’t know everything, they think they do. They talk and act like they think they do anyway.
alternative title:
"almost an hour of old debunked nonsense"
You didn't watch it then did you?
Read his article "on the origins articles" and prove an author
@@laszlokiss483 prove an author? Sorry, I don't follow.
@@Ryan-rh8rn I think we agree on the existence of God correct ? So my request was actually to the OP but if you or anybody that happens to see this doesnt agree on Gods existence look up that article I mentioned it is available on the biblical science institutes website and if you are of the worldview that everything must be ale to be proven or understand through empirical evidence and data I would ask you or anybody to empirically prove an author to that article and you will be amazed at how fast the logic and burden of proof requested to question this empirical worldview crumbles like a pillar of sand.
They will argue the complexity is proof of an author yet if someone sees a much higher degree of complexity in the universe and invokes an author/creator aka God they are considered to be a superstitious madman.
@@laszlokiss483 ohhh ok I wasnt sure. Thanks for clearing up
ID is more than an argument of thought..look around you..everything from a leaf to a car has a design behind it. A car just did not happen nor a leaf just happen with specific dna to make it a certain type of species of leaf just like cars generic can have names by specific designers from each company who make the same thing but with different looks.
are you trying to say different designers made different kinds of trees?
Proof l prefer to get my evidence and in many cases proof from books of non fiction rather than fiction
Science backs the bible.
... into every smaller gaps of knowledge.
You are so deluded......how are you able to exist in the 21st century.
Kenny...you are so deluded......how are you able to exist in the 21st century.
@@boglerun8444 Troll. Or a fool.
@@kylec8950 Kenny is obviously a fool.
Why is there no "proof" in this video?
How do you know that???
To those atheists (and Christians who are doubting) who challenge the existence of God, I'm reading a great book called "Imagine Heaven". It is a collection of hundreds of near death experience stories of people who die and briefly see Christ and/or go to heaven. The witnesses cross the intellectual and racial spectrum and yet all tell strikingly similar stories. So, yes, there are millions of eye witnesses who have seen God. I, myself, have experienced God first hand many times, including once where he fell upon me so powerfully that I collapsed unconscious in a euphoric state of loving rapture, aware only of his comforting presence, for about 4 minutes.
Hallucinations are not proof of any god.
@@Bc232klm A comparative study was done between Near Death Experience witnesses (NDE'ers) and other anesthetized patients. While the NDE'ers could describe their operation in great detail, and even describe what was happening in other rooms during the operation in specific detail, the other patients had no clue. Over and over again, the NDE'ers stories checked out. In denying eye witness accounts by credible people, you are suffering from what the Bible calls an evil heart of unbelief. Your heart is choosing darkness even when the truth is right in front of you.
I'm absolutely certain you can't be absolutely certain absolute certainties are non-existent!
Dumbass, that makes your stupid statement uncertain.
@@2fast2block I dont think you got it
@@acycle2124 I don't think you think.