How To Write and Orchestrate For Woodwinds and Brass - Explained!

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    Hi friends! Today, let's take a slightly different path and examine how to write in a chorale style for woodwinds and brass. With so many colours at our disposal, what's the best way to approach this? Let's dive in.
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  • @MrTedw53
    @MrTedw53 4 роки тому +10

    I guess I am a product of another era. When I started writing for woodwinds, brass and strings there were no samplers. Back in high school in the late 60’s I started by transcribing parts from Chicago and Blood Sweat and Tears albums for my band. I was a drummer so I first had to learn how to read and write music. I then moved to transcribing big band charts scoring all the parts. One had to learn the ranges of all the instruments and how to write out the parts. Up a major second for trumpet, a major 6th for alto sax, major 9th for ten or sax, alto clef for violas, etc. one had to have basic knowledge. Now people want to jump in without putting the work. Even though I have a degree in music composition (almost 45 years ago I really enjoy your videos and channel.

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +6

      Hey Ted, thanks for sharing. Indeed, many people want to get right in and get their hands dirty! It's okay that they might not know certain things; it's my and other educator's jobs to share what we know :) Appreciate you watching!

  • @Pax30001
    @Pax30001 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @streliste8
    @streliste8 4 роки тому +4

    Harmonic Series Video saved the day Chris... :D Now everything is based on that, woodwinds/strings/brass.... you enlightened it with the last video!!!
    Thanks!

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +1

      My pleasure Viktor! Indeed, it’s always best to start with the foundation :) look forward to Monday’s video!

  • @RamizST
    @RamizST 4 роки тому +2

    I like how this video builds upon the previous one. Very useful and inspiring. Thank you and stay safe!

  • @yadinmichaeli12
    @yadinmichaeli12 4 роки тому +1

    awesome tutorial

  • @SilloniusAeldarian
    @SilloniusAeldarian 4 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for composing tips from you Chris! thank you for this. just take your time and keep uploading what comes to your mind.

  • @nRGmusicproduction
    @nRGmusicproduction 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing video Chris. Thank you!

  • @levikats31
    @levikats31 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice Christopher! Loved it. I cant read notes but im making orchestral music. Your tutorials helps me a lot! Thanks for that!!

  • @karstenz.8754
    @karstenz.8754 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful, how you figured out the individual melody lines for each instrument. You inspired me to try this as well with a woodwind section.
    I am proud that I heard from your channel after watching the Q&A video with Dirk Ehlert, you and other guys.

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому

      Thank you Karsten! Good luck trying it on your own, and let us know how you get along with it!

    • @karstenz.8754
      @karstenz.8754 4 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu Hi Christopher, this morning one question came to my mind. Let us imagine you have used woodwinds and brass together in one approach. Would you use two of each instrument again and doubling the melody lines?

  • @joshuathomas8778
    @joshuathomas8778 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks again Chris for more of these informational videos, always inspiring. I'm hoping you continue this with other orchestral instruments.

  • @bjazz68
    @bjazz68 2 роки тому

    Amazing! Thank you for allowing me to see your work and thought process. It was very honest and inspirational, especially since you finally achieved exactly the kind of musical outcome you set out to. I really appreciate getting to see and hear that.

  • @pianistartun
    @pianistartun 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome man, great content!

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +1

      Appreciate it man! Hope you're doing well :)

  • @officialnoslenj
    @officialnoslenj 4 роки тому +4

    @Chris I have a non-music related question. What software, camera, microphone, etc. do you use in creating your videos? After watching the interview with you and Graham, the idea wheels in my head have been working overtime.

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Jon, I've got just the thing for you: ua-cam.com/video/ayBagomn8UQ/v-deo.html

  • @MysterySchool
    @MysterySchool 4 роки тому +1

    Way cool, i need more videos like this 🤗

  • @zaharishtonov
    @zaharishtonov 4 роки тому +1

    Great lesson! Thanks for showing us these techniques! May I suggest that besides labeling your different tracks (thank you!), also assign different colors to the MIDI regions. In addition, I know Logic can display different colors per part (instead of velocity) in the Editor window. Especially that one would make the job of following along so much easier! Thanks again! Cheers!

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +1

      Great suggestion! Thanks for watching :)

    • @zaharishtonov
      @zaharishtonov 4 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu - You are welcome, my friend!

  • @SuperJxl
    @SuperJxl 2 роки тому +1

    dont forget if you are writing sheet music, clarinet trumpet and horns are transposing instruments.

  • @joepeters5796
    @joepeters5796 4 роки тому +1

    Question on breathing. When you write an orchestral score do you try to have the entire orchestra "breathe" at the same time, or do you "stagger" the breathing between instruments, or is it somewhat dependent on the arrangement, and effect you wish to achieve?

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +1

      Great question Joe, and a wonderful idea for a new video! I think it depends entirely on the arrangement. If we’re sustaining a long chord with woodwinds, for example, they can certainly do that, but I’ll need to write in breath marks where one flute breathes while the other doesn’t, or one section breathes while the rest sustain. We can call this stagger breathing, if you will. In any case, I try to have them breathe in a place most natural for the phrase.

  • @christianhamer
    @christianhamer 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Chris . This has been super helpful indeed . My music theory is very basic but your explanations are really easy to follow and make sense to me even though being a total beginner. Have you got a music theory course? You're a natural born teacher and I like your calm approach! Thanks for helping us starter uppers .Much appreciated!

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much Christian! Yes I do in fact, here it is: christophersiu.podia.com/879352bb-9d2b-423e-9830-74a5f72fb7b8

    • @christianhamer
      @christianhamer 3 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu Hi and thank you very much for your reply . I'm looking forward to this course! .Unfortunately I cannot afford it at the moment since covid has lowered my income so much. So as it stands I'll have to wait a little until I'm able to work full time again. But as soon as I'm able to I will sign up for sure!!! . Its terrible here in London at the moment with the pandemic and obviously it is a huge challenge and sadness for everyone across the globe ! Stay safe
      Best wishes
      Christian
      PS . I've subscribed and will spread the word about your awesome work . !!!!! Until soon

    • @christianhamer
      @christianhamer 3 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu Hi Chris . Changed my mind and bought it anyways .What the heck . Learning is so much more important .!!! You cant take it £$ with you right ! Cant wait to get started . Cheers and best wishes again
      Christian

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  3 роки тому +1

      Haha glad to have you on board Christian! You know where to find me if you have any questions :)

    • @christianhamer
      @christianhamer 3 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu Cheers to that!:) Glad to be on board !!!!

  • @bisibela
    @bisibela 3 роки тому +1

    Chris great video!! if i may suggest- try using different region colors and multiselect different regions from instruments u want to harmonize and u can tell logic midi editor to color each instrument notes by their region color instead of velocity. that way, u do t have to go back and forth between regions while harmonizing and is a great tool to illustrate your concepts on a video: love your content and the concepts! i am also enjoying your course!

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the tip! And so glad you’re enjoying the course!

  • @raymondspagnuolo8222
    @raymondspagnuolo8222 2 роки тому

    Hello Chris! This video was very helpful. Also, the link to your course appears to be broken. Are you still offering it?

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  2 роки тому

      Thank you Raymond! My apologies, I just fixed the link. Best part is, you can grab the course for 40% off until midnight EST tonight!!

  • @plectro7058
    @plectro7058 3 роки тому +2

    Hey Chris, do you remember what this chord progression is? Would appreciate it.

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  3 роки тому +1

      Hey Plectro, it's Eb Bb7/D Cm Eb/Bb AbM7 Bb7 Eb Dhalfdim7 G7 Cm Cm/Bb F7/A Fm/Ab Bb13 EbM7.

  • @dafingaz
    @dafingaz 4 роки тому +1

    Nice!

  • @kiliankraus
    @kiliankraus 2 роки тому +1

    sign me up to play as bassoon 2

  • @keiphilinstrumental2017
    @keiphilinstrumental2017 4 роки тому +1

    Bro.. How Can I buy Kontalk Full Version? Is it risk to try Purchasing it through online? I have no Idea how Please help thanks 😊

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому

      Here you go: www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/samplers/kontakt-6/pricing/

    • @keiphilinstrumental2017
      @keiphilinstrumental2017 4 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu thanks bro. 😊 you helped me

    • @peanutbutter1998
      @peanutbutter1998 4 роки тому

      Christopher Siu what is the benefits of having kontakt full? Can I still get away with using kontakt player? Do large libraries like Metropolis ark and cinematic strings need kontakt full?

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому

      @@keiphilinstrumental2017 You're welcome!

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому

      @@peanutbutter1998 Honestly you can get away with a lot with just the Kontakt player. The full version allows you access to every single Kontakt-based library, while the player only works with the libraries where the developer paid NI to have their library with in the player version. The Arks and CSS do not need full Kontakt.

  • @jaketanner109
    @jaketanner109 4 роки тому

    Hi Chris, wondering what your thoughts are on Cinewinds? Lately I have been wanting to finish a library all from the same recorded space, and Cinesamples might be the closest for me to finish...just need winds and brass. Wanted your take on it.. Thanks.

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому

      Hi Jake, I enjoy Cinewinds for more exposed solo lines, as they're very expressive and sound great in the Sony room. Good luck!

    • @jaketanner109
      @jaketanner109 4 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu I would have to imagine that they would blend well in an orchestration with the other Cinesamples libraries though no? I only ask because I know you have a lot of their libraries and have probably tried that. Thanks.

    • @ChristopherSiu
      @ChristopherSiu  4 роки тому +1

      @@jaketanner109 Yes, I would say so. The overall quality of the Cinesamples libraries is more upfront and center, so the winds have the same quality.

    • @jaketanner109
      @jaketanner109 4 роки тому

      @@ChristopherSiu thank you

  • @yves2078
    @yves2078 2 роки тому

    bad