Why Ju Peter Is The Secret Traitor of The Gorosei
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Is there more to One Piece's Five Elders than we think? I believe St. Shepherd Ju Peter may know the answer...
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For the record, I started making this video before Morj released his. But my video is better anyway. Hah.
The idea that ju Peter is a traitor appeared in Reddit for the first time when his name was revealed more than a year ago and as other people said in the comments , it’s related to the bible reference and later his power.
No, both your videos were shitt
Justifying treason with blonde hair is such a slim reason
Kanjuro stand it out a lot and you can't say that Sanji doesn't stand out
Bruh this is out for a good while. I coined it 2yrs ago as well, based on the overcoat they wore in the first scene.
Ju Peter and Gandhi are gonna be the ones to switch sides in the end.
In the Bible, Saint Peter denied Jesus 3x to save his own ass, and ended up repenting. What if Ju Peter was a representative from Joy Boy’s country who betrayed him, and wants to seek forgiveness by betraying the Gorosei?
double agent?? I like it.
Judas did what was asked of him out of love for Jesus. Peter acted like he didn't even know Jesus. Respect to Judas!
@@Higsby100 The information you're reciting comes from pseudo Gospels and has never been accepted by the Church.
@@CantusTropusbro what
@@CantusTropus the church cherry picks translations to pick their narratives. I'm talking more about historical fact done by researches using unbiased translations.
Ju Peter was also the only one who gave a sh*t about people beneath him, i.e Cipher Pol agents. Saturn said the entire Egghead can go to hell, Mars denied Lucci's pledge to save Kaku,... but Ju Peter sucked up and released all captured Cipher Pol agents to their safety.
Although it could have just been a way to quickly remove their voices to make finding the snail easier. At least in sky island a voice inside another voice (Luffy in the Snake) couldn't even be heard by Enel. He spat them out once they found the snail and we don't really know how convenient their landing locations were...
@@spielsieb5813 They all landed on marine ships.
@@spielsieb5813all of the seraphim and most of the cipher pol agents landed in marine ships. also by the time ju peter was spitting everything out, they already knew the snail was inside emeth. he was saving them and using them as projectiles to hit the elbaf ship.
After seeing his reaction to Garling joining the elders I truly believe you nailed this on the head. He’s definitely a traitor.
honestly if were to be true i would very invested or curios.I am curios what oda's writing would be on that
Ju Peter has been a leader in the world government, a regime of evil beyond imagining
Yet maybe he does feel remorse or regret. How do you write that?
Where does the limit of redemption lie? Having a genuinely shitty evil person have a change of heart is a hard thing to write especially one that reminds us so much of real life dictators like Hitler, Stalin etc in terms of power and role
But what if...what if one of those people, after hundreds of years came to truly genuinely regret what they did/supported and their role in it now. That wont undo their evil but is it possible to still come back from that?
IT would be an interesting writing choice and very emotional honestly if done well.
He was the only elder singled out
The dude protected Cipher Pol agents, when his fellow Elder had little to no regard for ally casualties and would damage people with a mere glance.
they popped heads with no regard fr
this. literally a few chapters before, mars outright states that he doesn't care if a few die during their cause. yet we see ju peter saving cipher pol agents.
@@controlconmars never said he didn’t care if they die he just says it’s hard to save weaklings
Ju Peter gives me serious how do you do fellow Gorosei energy
call him JUPITER please
@@worldstarz724 His official name is Ju Peter
Jew Peter that is Jesus himself 😂
He actually gives me a Yakuza vibe more than anything from the way he talks and dresses.
This is sm funnier w the new chapter revelations
Worms can reproduce as either male or female. Peter is Luffy's mother.
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😂😂😂
Never cook again big dawg 🙏🏿😭💀
@@blackmercury956 it’s a joke
Still Haven’t watched the video but this comment makes me not want to😂😂
The way Ju Peter dresses and the implication that he’s trying to cover his scar is a bit contradictory.
He has loose clothing but covers up. Not really a contradiction but the scar bit was a bit weak in my opinion
@@ollehkacb I agree. You worded it better than I did.
I always thought Warcury just had liverspots on his head cause he's old ...
He does, he was made to look like gorbachev the man who dismantled the soviet union. This guy is just cooked and doesnt really understand the inspirations for any of these characters
10:13 Ju Peter was the one to tell the communications department to keep their mouths shut as Imu destroyed that island. That quote of Lulucia never having existed is way to good for him to be „uninteresting“ or „in the background“. While this video is nicely crafted I feel like the theory started as an idea with all evidence being retroactively fitted to make it work.
He has to do something to not be suspicious to the other gorosei all the time. I agree this theory was probably crafted around the idea, but it makes sense with all the evidence.
@@OnePieceTheGreatest I just think that the theory is based on things that don’t actually connect. Sure Kanjuro and York are „less prominent“ in their groups but most other traitors in the story aren’t. Stussy and Drake are both major focuses before the reveal. Rosinante is also one of Doffys elite officers and highlighted as his brother. So any debate over Ju Peters lack of prominence is questionable. Even more with him getting such a major and rare Gorosei scene in the destruction of Lulucia. I would also say that traitors don’t get powers that are sneaky but rather that benefit them being traitors. Now that is a very small difference but think about it. How does Ju Peter being a MASSIVE worm make for an interesting traitor power? You can use it well but it’s not a rock solid point. Ju Peter reacting to news doesn’t mean anything unless we assume all the debatable evidence. Even so isn’t that a moment he gets highlighted? Similarly in the Nika reveal (though the argument that he is speaking of Nika this highly is actually solid) he could just get focus like the other Elders do. Ju Peters Design changed a lot when compared to how he appeared chasing Sabo. Wouldn’t Oda want to flesh out a Goroseis design more if they have a bigger role later? Also if we consider Ju Peter being „less prominent“ doesn’t him not getting as much battle focus or appearing more in the background make sense?
@@OnePieceTheGreatest But I find the idea of Saint Ju Peter being the traitor rather compelling. Even if I disagree with most of the evidence, him being the one talking of Nika and the Saint Peter/ Cross connection, are valid points.The end section of the video making clear that really they believe that he’s going to simply defect instead of him actually being a traditional traitor is also a major sell. So I hope the video is right and I am wrong.
Guys…what if Ju peter is the ACTUAL leader of SWORD? The actual saint peter was also known for his part in which he the sword with which he cut off the right ear of the high priest's servant at the time of Jesus' arrest in Gethsemane
Good Theory. For me, there is a smoking gun that might indicate he is a more benevolent person actively trying to sabotage Imu's side. And that is that he saved the Cipher Pol agents in Egg Head. Marcus didn't give a crap about anyone. But Ju went out of his way to save them.
That doesn't look like typical Gorosei behavior.
Or I could be completely wrong.
Ju Peter being a sandworm instead of a yokai like the rest of the Gorosei and possibly Im Sama is probably the most hard hitting evidence, his full zoan form just being a very large animal instead of a monster/demon shows him as innately less evil and on-top of that all the gorosei awakening their fruits shows that he has a spiritual connection with his fruit aka the neutral one
I do believe there is a traitor among them, but if theres going to be a traitor i feel as though Ju Peter would be too obvious but not disproving it.
The odd one out for me is Mars for only one reason.... The Yokai
The Ushi-Oni spreads disease
The Hoki terrorizes the countryside
The Sand Worms are aggressive & territorial
The bakotsu which is just a spirit of a horse that burned to death (That is literally all this Yokai is, nothing else)
But the one that really stands out is the Itsumade,
For starters it's the only one even slightly resembling a human due to the human face
But the main thing is their behavior:
They appear in the night sky during times of trouble, such as plagues or disasters. They mainly show up where there is suffering or death yet little is done to elevate the pain or ease the dead. The Itsumade flies in circles all night long, crying out "Itsumademo?" which means "Until When?, asking the ones below how long the suffering will go unnoticed, it is thought that the spirits of the dead & the suffering form into the Itsumade, demanding recognition of their suffering & torment.
What i'm getting at is that all the gorosei's Yokai Are hostile by nature (except Nusjuro's) & don't resemble humans at all, except for Mars , Mars' Yokai is thought to be the spirits of the dead & suffering demanding recognition of their suffering & torment.
I do agree that Ju Peter seems to be the obvious choice, but knowing Oda, he's specifically made one seem more obvious then the actual one, like he did with the Vegapunks, Lilith seemed like the clear choice as the traitor due to literally being the evil vegapunk, but it was actually York, who was the first vegapunk to be "taken out", similar to how Mars was the first to be "Taken out".
Based on how Mars has been potrayed he definetly isn't a traitor and there is nothing to indicate it unlike with Ju Peter. Mars has been on a sole mission for most of his time on Egghead and yet he tries to stop the prodcast and is actively cursing Vegapunk. If he wasn't on Imu's side why would he be doing this it just dosen't add up. If he was against Imu we would have some indication of this but we don't. Ju Peter is basicly a blank state so it makes more sence to use him. Also Mars has way more potential from a cool fight then Ju Peter who berly has any potential when it comes to battles so I we wouldn't lose out on much from him being a traitor. I would rather see a fight with a badass looking demon bird that can actually do intresting stuff and has had actual screen time rather then a goofy looking Worm that has bo special abillities that has been a completly irrelevant punching bag this whole arc.
Yeah, Oda is always trying to innovate
@@debater452The thing is if we know who is the culprit what is the point. Oda is always trying to catch us off guard
@@lewisaino Then he would have given an actual solid hint. This soyld only bee suprisin, because it would come out of nowhere. If you want to make a good twist you have to have something to indicate it before the reveal. How can it be Mars if there literally isn't anything to indicate it at all.
Personally i think an itsumade is the perfect yokai to chose for a representative of a group that abuses the population on a global scale, i just imagine a representative of an unaffiliated nation trying to negotiate with mars in his yokai form and mars just eating up the entire conversation being as coy and aloof as inhumanly possible sitting on a perch twisting his head around and just taking the whole thing as un-seriously as possible while the representative begs for their and their peoples lives
And on another thematic note, mars is the godhead/ warrior god of the environment, and i see that as making sure that as much suffering as possible is occurring which both keeps the world government in power to “fix”things, and also keeps Mars fed since itsumade eats suffering (the suffering of the dead in myth eating the suffering of the living isn’t much of a stretch)
If Ju Peter is a traitor, he aint doing treason no more after seeing Imu killing Saturn with no effort
It’s funny because i’m Italian the emperor Nero is referred to as “Nerone” which just amplifies the connection to Imu, “Nerona”
Sì infatti, ma in Giapponese credo sia solo Nero
It's also important to mention that the planet Jupiter is often related to the idea of jollity (joy).
This is most widely known through the VERY famous piece of classical music called "jupiter, the bringer of jollity", so i don't doubt that Oda has heard about this connection at some point.
So, assuming that this theory is correct, there's a chance that Oda made Ju peter the traitor as his assigned planet has links to joy, just like how nika has close links to joy (and obviously joyboy).
other than that, jupiter is the planet that is so big to be close to turning into a star. if it was ten times bigger if i recall correctly it would start to burn and turn into a star.
I'm surprised you didn't mention on Egghead that Jupiter unlike the other goresei didn't really have dialogue. He stands out because you don't even get his internal thoughts it's always ...
There isn't a particularly logical reason why this would be the case unless his internal thoughts are different than what the others are thinking
Real name: St. Shepar D Jupiter
"My Dune My Arrakis" lmao
Bros bouta have far future sight/future memories as his sandworm ability and is the one who helped joyboy set his plan into action
OMG that would be hilarious 😂
Ju Peter is Joyboy?????
16:58 It makes sense that Peter is excited, since the only 2 GOOD emperors teamed up, and Peter knew that. That was probably THE ONE THING he was waiting for to beat the government, since he wasn't familiar with the legend of Nika well.
The scar thing is a stretch... you just said he leaves his suit more loose fitting and then like 10 secs after say that he is trying to cover up something that is clearly visible.
Exactly what I thought
I would say the scratch statement is a lil stretch but I think it’s true tht ju peter does wear his clothes a little loosely and doesn’t wear a tie. Excluding tht u can’t hate on this good theory with good evidence to back it up
Who cares the rest of the theory was gold ….stop nitpicking
@@Andre-im7eq It doesn't invalidate the other points, but it is a valid feedback to a self-contradicting argument that many viewers probably raised an eye over.
Plus the liverspots are just old age (and a reference to Gorbachev, the historical figure he is based on), which further weakens the argument.
I can understand finding patterns where none are though, because confirmation bias is one hell of a drug.
@@LinkEX it doesn’t really matter …the only people nitpicking over a small mishap …are either just bored or are trying so hard to invalidate his theory since they’re to incompetent to even out other a video like this so their jealous …anyone with common sense knew what he was trying to say, so idk why this person is trying so hard to be a smart ass, it’s evident that Ju Peter wears his suit more loosely or informally more than the other gorosei, and it’s evident that his scar extends further than what the eye can see…just because he wear his suit loosely and we can still see part of the scar …that doesn’t mean he isnt trying to hide the rest of it….so no it wasn’t a smart thing to say…people take this shit way too seriously …you’re not analysing a single all of text for a university dissertation…it’s literally a fun theory conjured by someone who likes the series …
One of the biggest additions to this theory just came with the recent chapter.
The Vinsmokes had two traitors. Sanji being one. The other was his sister Reiju.
Always said Peter ever since he seemed concerned about Lulusia being destroyed. He's probably a CD from there.
You can even argue “shepherd” last letter to be a secret “D” like “Gol D. Roger”
Took me way too long into the video to realize Ju Peter == Jupiter xD
SAME BRO LMAO
It's frightening that you have the right to vote.
@@GorrnLord chillll 😭
They're all named after planets... How did you not notice
New chapter proves the merit of the theory. Nothing changes!
Ju Peter the type of "If I remain silent I look extra mysterious and cool" dude 💀💀💀
excellent work. id just like to add that Saturn’s parallels to Virgo (first of the top 4 introduced, fail their mission, tied to the backstory of the allied supernova) and the chapter numbers hidden throughout egghead seem to hint that Saturn will die this arc which would make Saturn and Ju Peter standing on the left of Vegapunk in the cover of 1075 some interesting foreshadowing.
Nice catch! I was originally gonna bring this up in the video, but considering Egghead is likely gonna end in the next few chapters, I didn't wanna hinge an entire point around Saturn potentially dying when that's something that could be debunked in just a few weeks' time. Still praying that Saturn dies tho.
And here you go. Saturn died.@@Mooglatan
right on point
Saturn was crying giving order to destroy Ohara. He gave too much freedom to Kuma and Vegapunk. He somehow gave Bonney a fruit that can copycat Nika. Ginny somehow escaped Mary Geoise under his watch.
As Imu once said "was it a blunder?"
So r u saying the traitor is Saturn
Saturn's literally a fanatic. There's no way he's the traitor
@@dmitrychirkov4206 that wasn't saturn criying. Look at the pannel again. The one who was criying giving the order to destroy ohara was ju peter .
@@pearsfashions5426 i'll look into that, thx
That would be an inssne twist if Saturn turned out to be a traitor
Aged nicely
This has got to be the craziest thing I've ever seen, dude we are SO far ahead compared to most of the other paralels you mentioned when it comes to discovering or revealing traitors it feels so certain
goated Twilight Princess music usage
*Edit:* goated usage of Zelda music in general 👌
And if you get a little cross-textual, the sand worm is what Paul ultimately uses to become emperor in Dune. It allows him to overpower the sardaukar with ease and gives him control over the spice. If ju peter is key to defeating an entity like the seraphim and gives luffy access to or control over a vital substance like the mother flame, then Oda may have had thoughts in his head about making a character into shai-hulud after reading Dune at some point and cemented the idea after seeing the second film this year.
given chapter 1125 when given the...news of Saint Saturn, he had a single panel for himself compared to the others showing his shock...you may be on to something here
"for some reason i can't explain, i know saint peter won't call my name." -imu i guess
@@Mooneymanjason I wish I could pin two comments.
Was that when he ruled the world?
Imu: *_KILL LUFFY!!!_*
Ju Peter: no lol
It's also Doflamingo who, captured, asks "Who is going to betray whom?".
Right then, I thought it was a foreshadowing for Kanjuro's betrayel. But seeing how this theme keeps coming back (e.g., Egghead), it may well be a significant theme until the very end.
I believe the name goes deeper than you mention. I think ju peter is an amalgamation of Judas and Peter. Judas being an obvious hint that he is a traitor. He is also the only one that has ever questioned why the gorosei is government is doing something. Aside from that you mentioned pretty much everything i have been saying for years.
Maybe Ju Peter is based off another Manga
@@lewisaino that manga being the Bible 💀
Know this came out a month before but just wanna add, when Garling was revealed to be the new Elder it was Peter who was specifically showed being concerned and sweating and singled out
Did you see JU PETERS reaction when GARLING walked into the room?? HES DEFINITELY thr🎉traitor.
The new chapter makes this feels like this is set in stone 💕
18:55 this was a huge tell Jupeter was VERY AGAINST the Motherflame
I also think Ju Peter is a reference to Christian figures Judas and Peter, Jesus’ apostles. Judas betrayed Jesus and Peter denied he knew Jesus 3 times - so might indeed be a nod to him being a traitor!
all traitors are blonde except X-Drake
And Kanjuro.
Jupiter is the Roman equivalent of Zeus.
Zeus betrayed Big Mom, despite being a part of her very soul.
Oda may have already explicitly told us he's the traitor.
My concern is... who is the traitor in the Blackbeard Pirates?
And worse... who is the traitor in the Straw Hats?
Tbh I don't think anyone from the straw hats would be a traitor. If potentially there was a traitor it'd be Jinbei.
The Straw Hats are parallel to Joyboy's crew. I do think that it's going to be revealed that Joyboy's crew had a traitor, but I think that Luffy's going to be contrasted against Joyboy in that he was better in selecting his crew with no traitor, and for that reason he succeeds where Joyboy failed.
@@hxiden the reason is?
@@alfianmelodic As I said it's highly unlikely that anyone from the straw hats would be a traitor, but just for the sake of argument, Jinbei would most likely stop Luffy if his dreams lead to the fishman race suffering, or at least try to stop him lol.
Usopp already defected, but he apologized and was forgiven. Human things work like that
Great theory! There’s a lot of hints that he could definitely be a traitor or have some type of event where he goes against the gorosei or Imu. But Ju Peter is also clearly the youngest gorosei maybe that’s why he isn’t given much authority he hasn’t experienced as much as the other members.
Jupiter is working with the swordsman who was silhouetted with the other candidates to find the OnePiece
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in their scene in Film Red, wasn't Ju Peter the one to show the most concern about Tot Musica's return? Also, I've always thought it would be funny if the youngest looking Gorosei ended up being the oldest. I like the idea that he was initially on Joy Boy's side and betrayed him for power Imu promised him, effectively costing Joy Boy the war. And then overtime realizing how bad he fucked up, but with Joy Boy dead the only thing he could do was lay low and wait until someone else eventually awakened the Nika fruit. Oh and isn't he the warrior god of agriculture? If so then he's the only whose monster form is associated with his job, being a worm. Maybe it shows that he's the only one who actually cares about actually doing his job, overseeing food production for the world?
The gorosei are sometimes referred to as the five elder stars, and jupiter is considered to be the failed star
This theory will age like fine wine. Especially w the latest chapter.
Also i think the gorosei number are not “strength” based but order of becoming a gorosei and Ju-peter just so happends to be #1 meaning he was the first to join.
Making this theory even more possible🔥
yeah I can't shake this theory out of my head, if you combine it with the 'Judas' theory about someone on JoyBoy's crew who betrayed him then having it be Ju Peter could be interesting. would help tie the void century flashback stuff back into the current story + could lead to a full circle moment where he betrays Imu and helps the new JoyBoy.
@@xBezerkerrr if you think about the parallels in the latest chapter too. W the satellites having their own will and being able to live w out stella.
Is a contrast to the gorosei needing and mostlikely being slaves to Imu. Ju-peter betraying makes sense.
if this doesn't end up being true, then that's gonna be wild because this makes so much sense
The thing with the scar and the way he wears his clothes could be viewed nearly the opposite way. He purpose fully doesn't wear a tie and keeps his shirt unbuttoned to more prominently display his scar. Since if he wore a tie. It would be completely covered up.
And this last chapter we did the zoom in on sweaty peter again seeing Garling stepping into the ring.
The "leader" elements of Saturn are not tied to his name, but to his apperance: he's apparently based on Giuseppe Garibaldi, a legendary general and one of the founding fathers of Italy. Altought Garibaldi was a leader of revolutionaries who wanted to overtrow titants, ironiclaly
Couldn't that be the hint who's the actual traitor?
Hm. He may be the Man with the Burned Scar that Blackbeard talked to Aokiji about. Aokiji pointed at his scar in the same area.
That's a very interesting observation
Considering he's based on Abraham Lincoln it makes sense
I would most likely have guessed St Marcus Mars. He was the first to return to Mariejoie, he is the only one who is remorsefull concerning ohara and shares similarity with Ganfal
He most likely returned first because he was out of range of the summoning. Ju Peter was concerned about Lulussia and Mars concern seemed to be based in pragmatism. This is the same series where a significant amount of the female cast are reskined Nami's this is a streach
Drake wasn't a traitor. He was a spy and a marine from the start. Also Sanji wasn't a traitor, he was an outcast of the Vinsmoke family.
From the perspective of Kaido's forces Drake was a traitor same apllies to the Vinsmoke's
@@debater452🤷🏻♂️
I think the panel at 14:58 is very telling. We see the gorosei separated, and Saturn and Ju Peter are the ones broken away. They also are the only two with their eyes shadowed when looking at Imu, while the other three show their eyes.
We just found out the Saturn actually betrayed imu by not destroying Emmett. I believe this panel symbolizes that Saturn and Ju Peter are not fully faithful to Imu, and have done things that goes against what Imu wants.
11:56 the one time Marcus Mars turned in his gorosei homework
Oda: alright, who took my pots and pans?
Mooglatan: (innocently whistling)
Maybe all 5 are traitors, but they don't know that each of the other Gorosei are also traitors. So they're all trying to betray Imu and the 4 other Gorosei while also trying to not be found out.
Edit* Maybe Imu is the opposite of JoyBoy, and they're SadGirl, kinda like a joke about Sabo with the D would make him Sa D. Bo, or a sad boy.
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Maybe Imu is Chaos itself
maybe joy boy is really just freak boy and instead of being a warrior of liberation he just goons on people to make them smile!
Jupiter's reaction to Saturn being killed is obviously fear and anxiety. Why would he be concerned and the rest of the olders didn't?
Oda: wow didn't know about that
*to his assistants:* WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN!!
BANGER theory, Hope this happens. Ju-Peter always been my fav gorosei.
stop lying 😂
If ju peter is a traitor and some celestial dragons go against imu (Shalria during vegaunks message is now curious about the past, Charloss propably got a personality change due to Severe Hit he received from leo and sai, he propably also looks different now.).
And now, i think Ju Peter will be their Leader or something.
It's speculated that the countries that have a large dot with the smaller dots around them are honoring the late Joyboy and are still carrying on his will, it could be with the reveal of the weapons, that the Gorosi used to be part of Joyboy's crew if you count the dots, they represent the planets with the sun (Joyboy) in the middle...so it's possible the Gorosi are just terrified of Imu's power of what they can do...or they've lost the hope to repel them, in the scene where they kneel before Imu holding the photos they do look scared...it's possible they might have their own traitor
how is he hiding his scar when he wears a v-neck and no tie. He literally shows it off like a trophy.
Traitors are basically a requirement in every large group in One Piece. No exceptions.
Boroque works had Vivi, the D. Clan had xxxxx, CP0 had Stussy, each Yonko crew (someone is going to screw Shanks over).
I think even the Marines and Revolutionary Army will have some sort of treachery involved.
I know Aokiji is a potential plot point, but that is likely a double cross, which goes back to the idea of each Yonko crew having at least one traitor.
Presented this theory to my friend „why ju peter is a traitor and on joyboys side“
His answer was „ofc he is, he is the american one“
Ju peter is modeled after abe lincoln
Ju Peter being a Traitor is a Nice Idea
We know that all Celestial Dragons Past has to do something with the Void Century. That Ethanbaron came from Wano is obvious and somehow I believe that Ju Peter is the Yellow Haired Vinsmoke from the Void Century. If the Stories are True then 5-6 Vinsmokes all having different Hair-Colors existed in the Past. Then Ju Peter the Yellow One betrayed them that is the Reason the Vinsmoke who had there own Country in the Past got Vanished. Maybe the First Ever Use of the Mother Flame. And after Ju Peter saw that destruction he regretted his decision but it was too Late to Turn Back. Now he is waiting to redeem himself when the Time is right
Well all of what you said can just as easily be reversed, he could be more willing to work with pirates because he is the youngest and he doesn’t have the same old way of thinking like the rest
6:30 Topman can also refer to an experienced sailor who works up in the rigging of a ship
And evem crazier possibility that i see oda doing is that ju peter was never on imus side. I think peter may be one od tbe orginal members of the world government during tbe void century.
It wasnt just lilly who betrayed imu but ju peter as well. Except lilys job was to spread the poneglyphes all over the world to give hope to the new era. And peter his mission would be Harder. His job was to wait for the day that Joyboy would return. Only then would ju peter reveal his true colors.
It matches kanjuro in a way and it also matches robin.
Ju peter seems to be imus rights hand man just lime robin was crocodile
Ju Peter always stood out to me because unlike the rest of the gorosei, he has a pretty regular characteristics, and he is blonde, when the rest of the elders have completely white hair
I Always assumed the age differences were based on when they got the eternal youth surgery and that they were all (more or less) the same age
Gorosei have powers of admirals:
Saturn - gravity fruit (no one was able to move when he arrived)
Topman - magma (he attacked Dorry and Broggy with hot attack)
Nusjuro - ice (froze pacifistas)
Mars - light (shot laser from his mouth while searching snail)
Jupeter - wood (sand worm with wood fruit is ironic and also Jupeter work is agriculture)
Also power wise it make sense
1)Akainu - Topman
2)Kuzan - Nusjuro
3)Kizaru - Mars
4)Jupeter - Greenbull
5)Fujitora - Saturn
Didn't Saturn has some kind of disease ability? As with one stare killed marine, Jupeter could i think with worm form dive into any form of material i think?
Maybe you are right but i think Gorosei have much more occultic powers than Admirals since we were not revealed of what fruits do they have or power as whole
@@adrijanasani5899 yea he had, admiral fruits are just one kf their powers
@@Segorilla Alright then
This is the best video I’ve seen on this topic , and I watch ALOT of one piece theory videos , amazing research and effort bro
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NEW evidence that support this, in chapter 1125 in the panel where garling sits down in the chair, there is a small pannel of Ju Peter's reaction. and let me tell ya, he seems scared.. bro is sweating and has two exclimation marks. could this be a hint towards him fearing being killed off by Imu? why? did he do something or is planning to do something? :3
zeus (Jupiter) was the youngest child of Kronos that was hidden in Gaia (earth) like a worm of some sort and was fed goats milk (shepherd… kinda reaching here) and helps to free his siblings and start the wars of the titans. am i on to something that’s probably in related video
Joy boy is the original pirate that was betrayed as well.
If my contemporaries could all turn into giant demons and I was just a worm, I’d turn traitor too.
*laughs in Fremen*
Not merely a "worm". A _sandwurm._
Those thing are not merely giant demons in the Dune universe, they are the largest and most dangerous force of nature that gets worshipped as a kind of deity.
So on the mythological side of zoan origins, compared to the yokai, Ju Peter's is actually based on the most powerful one.
Check out some scenes of the new Dune movie to see yourself.
Dune has gotten some new fame recently thanks to the excellent movies by Denis Villeneuve. But the original novels by Frank Herbert (way back from the 60s) are among the most influential for modern science fiction.
Ted-Ed has also a nice intro "Why You Should Read Dune" on them.
York is the second most important after Stella she eats and sleeps so the others dont have to making them more productive
The strongest piece of evidence are the patterns Oda's shown when writing other traitor characters. I'm sure it's not as meticulous but Oda's choices with information he doesn't want revealed yet are very important so the second was him being the one Oda chosing to have him introduce Nika, hmmm 🤔
As long as Saturn is not the traitor then I will be fine with anyone of them.
Saturn might be as well. It’s so weird for me how Saturn stood before Emeth the same way how joyboy silhouette stood before emeth after emeth pull the rope.
@@Swi2thMummblesMaybe Gorosei hate Imu and could fight the Imu Royal Guard
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If there is a traitor then i hope the traitor is given no mercy if/when someone shows up to enact justice or vengeance. Corazon was traitor but.his backstory earned him some sympathy. sparing the gorosei after all the atrocities they have facilitated would suck ass. I think that part of one piece serves as allegories with the void century serving as a direct comparison with revisionist historians altering history to edit things in and out excluding valuable context that could've helped to define a "good" or "bad" guy. Sparing one of them preaches forgiveness but i argue that it would conflict with the series' trademark "bad guys getting their asses kicked". See charlos. If ju peter is a traitor i hope he faces some form of punishment.
And see mossgard for the redem route because he was probably as bad as Charlos
New chapter gave another page to this agenda 🤞
Also Ju peter being agriculture is interesting since it also ties in with the shepherd imagery. Agriculture is interesting since it was the key development for sedentary human civilisation and the best definition for it is “the science of cultivating land, producing crops and raising livestock”
That also is what thanos became after Infinity War eg pacifist and self made
07:20 You could just as well connect ju peter to the apostle peter who holds the leys to heaven
I been reading since 06 and Ju Peter never sat right with me.. Him looking the youngest always stood out to me..
Wow I’m a big one piece fan but I haven’t recently subscribed to any theories. But man this video and theory is actually amazing and this would be sick if st ju Peter is actually a traitor like in real life. 💯
Nusjuro is evidently even nore casual with his wardrove, he uses a plain Nagagi with his chest exposed, thats something you'd wear on a lonely sunday. He is also wearing getas with no tabi socks, this is extremely informal and even uncorteous in a formal setting.
A formal attire would be a Nagai and hakama covered by a haori and as footwear he'd be using setta sandals with socks. Then you'd have something of similar formalcy as a proper suit and tie. Nusjuro goes around in something you'd wear at an open market
Personally I think it’s the bird Gorosei, Marcus. He’s the only one without a scar and he usually is the only one standing. He’s also the only one who represents a non man made construct 🥱
Neither does Nusjuro. I don't see how that is relevant. What are you refering to
3 Big points to support your theory:
6:30 I may have the Solution.
Maybe it's not "García", maybe it's "*Gracia*". A honorific way to refer to Nobles in Spanish, loosely translating to "Majesty"
"García" is a name, but it's root is "Gracia". Maybe it's just "Gracia" misspelled (the Japanese Struggle with Spanish a lot. ex. Robin's "Gigantesco Mano" should be "Mano Gigantesca").
22:00 Not only St. Peter was the first Pope.
*Jupiter* (the planet) is often refered to as a "Heroic" Planet, since it's enormus size protects Earth from extinction-level astronomic events (mainly as Asteroids).
Jupiter literally takes the bullet for us
10:00 To enhance the importance of his "low profile" as evidence.
Considering the great importance of Jupiter in Roman Mythology, and the size of the Planet in our solar system, you'd expect the man named after the "the King of the Planets" would be the center of the Gorosei, not to fall to the background!
3:53 funny thing is if Ju Peter wore his suit like the others we wouldn't see his scar 😅 so technically he's showing it off not hiding it.
18:00 This actually tracks with a theory of mine that Luffy will defeat Imu by making him laugh, which could make more sense if Jupeter praises Joyboy because maybe he actually wants that for Imu, for him to laugh for the first time after all these centuries.
He must still be a kid when Joy Boy died. Prolly plotted his revenge ever since.
this is such a good video. my favorite theory now.
Bravo! First time I ever watch one of your videos and I must say, I was entertained and completely engaged. Great job. I'll be back for more.
Ju Peter is a Bee Gee