LOL When soda said he wanted them in chat and Tyler started to begging it sounded just like the office when Michael finds out Toby is back PLEASE GOD NO
Thing is soda didnt put near the same amout of time as the ppl in the UBRS, Tyler/Summit/Maui where all present. Hes not even 60 so this is an argument against himself getting it, glad T1 got it even though hes afraid to use the on use 100 ap
@@charliep6444 If we take into account all the time he's spent managing the guild Soda has probably put more time than all 3 together. And he's the "safe" main tank option. So that's two points for them going to Soda. That said, I would just give them to T1 just because it's funny and good for content. But there is also a pretty good chance that they are wasted like that. He could die or just not use them well. Summit is a good third option if he wants to off-tank, since he was present when it dropped. Maui less so, since he most likely won't be in the raid. Overall it's not even that big of a deal, just streamers being streamers lol
@@charliep6444 Thats just wrong. Soda used his time for the guild, content and not his character. And content is why this guild exist. He has to deal with alot of shit to make the guild work so saying he dosent deserve it cause he dosent put time into his char (= raid/guild) is just dumb T1 might play alot but he sucks all the energy, resources and time of many other ppl out, just to make his character not die, while he killed other ppl around him. Meanwhile he cant even bind 10 keybinds, read his spells or proberly move while playing for many weeks and 100h+
It's pretty common sense that you want to gear your tanks first.. The beefier your tanks, the easier it is to hold threat and for the healers to heal. And in Hardcore, a dead tank can become a dead 40 man raid. All it takes is one bad dps not looking at the threat meter.
Yea buffing tanks damage also buffs your entire raids damage , doesnt matter how geared an individual dps is they will be capped by their tanks threat anyway especially as horde
@@niklasw1956 It's a mix of all three. The more you gear the easier it is for healers. Having a geared tank is far easier to heal than one in blue pre bis.
Yea. But when the said tank doesn't want to use tab target and most dungeons click on enemies and usually clicks pets and or other frontline players and wastes time just standing and not generating threat . It is probably safer to give it to another tank
@@SpecialP5 Oh fore sure, you want to give it to a good tank haha but T1 is learning pretty damn fast.. I remember my first 60 back in 2004.. had no clue what I was doing for years.
I think it's super cool what this group of people have been doing with this game. The events, teams and role playing are next level. Absolute blast to watch
I agree with almost everything you said in any of your videos so far, but with this one I do not agree... By this logic, any BoE should be rolled for Guild bank and then loot counciled, instead of giving it to a valid player who was in the group... If this is supposed to be tank item, and T1 is planned to be main tank, and he is in the group when it drops, he gets it if he is going to use it... I don't care if he is noob, or he might die next time he runs UBRS, or even in this run... he is a tank, it is tank item, it is an upgrade, he gets it (except another tank in the group needs and wins)...
love that horde players completely ignore "totem of tranquil air" for threat reduction because it´s on the same element as windfury and agility i guess^^
Yeah, windfury takes over, but when we raided, we had like 4 shamans. 2-3 would do windfury, other 1-2 did tranquil if threat was becoming an issue since our tanks weren't the best either. They were new and learning we taught them as we went, it was hard, but managed once they learned.
There is a spec where a simple rotation puts you up 10k threat first charge. Hopefully they teach him the rotation and DPS watch threat resets. @@Yue_Jin
@@143jcm It was definitely a baby game for Tyler. Carried by his fanboys while questing and having dungeon groups happy to die for him when he screwed up again and again.
@@krogan3760 u obviously dont know the first thing about summit lmao the cringe is pathetic everyone in the comments thinks they know summit over on little video from onlyfangs Jesus Christ get over youreself
The idea that its a punishment for farming pre raid bis obly works if its a temporary thing. If you have a permanent raiding group, then you should buff up the raid as beat you can. But its up to the persons discretion.
At the start or after threat drops shamans in dps groups (not the tank group) should be able to drop windfury totem, immediately drop tranquil totem and finally drop windfury totem again once the initially buff from windfury totem runs out and leave it up this time. Or am I missing something?
Yes, totem twisting is good, but it still doesnt outshine pala buffs. But it's good enough. Thing is, most classic scrubs suck at the game, so totemtwisting will fk up their mp5 and mana.
Those are amazing tank legs because the AGI adds a significant amount of armor and dodge plus the AP and STR for threat gen PLUS the phat stamina PLUS the phat AC so yeah either give to a tank or everyone free rolls then if they wanna equip it they can or they can sell it and buy something they an equip themselves.
Lol how do you not snag Ony when she lands And pull her back to the spot as a tank? Also not to nitpick but just not pressing buttons does NOT help if your tanks threat gen is trash vs the DPSer going crazy. Their threat value is exactly where it is until they die or the tank actually does more (or they taunt to match it for a moment). Example, way back when TBC was "retail" I went along with my guild for a Gruuls lair farm. They had tanks already. I was attacking the boss, tank speced and geared but not trying to tank... I kept pulling agro on the actual OT. They sent me PMs asking to lower my threat. I slowed my already slow roll even slower. Didn't help. They accused me of taunting off... Taunt wasn't even on my bars. So I stepped back and say down. The guild leader asked what I was doing over vent. I explained the situation. Got back up and started doing white dmg to the boss. The second the boss did his thing to the MT and switched... I had agro.
Your take on this tells me all I need to know 4mins in. You know the game homie clouds overrated for dps war in classic. TBH I’m curious ur take on the PvP gear lmao is that allowed I assume not but bg isn’t rly a death
Sodapoppin "Give me the loot even tho I havent even done that instance or hit 60 and I'm leveling an alt for some reason plus my annoying girlfriend healbots me 24/7" Chance Morris
He is a manchild. Never been responsible for anything in his life at 30 years old. He has a mod who handles all stream issues, he has people upgrade his PC for him, he has maids make his bed and dk his laundry for him, he only ever orders delivery food and literally needed his dad to show him how to cook an omelet.. I hope he never has a child because that thing aint living past 1 week.
Shaman's have a totem to reduce threat of anyone within it's range. Trainquil Air Totem: Reduces the threat of all party members in 20 yards by 20%. Put this thing at her butt in phase 3 so the melee and ranged are in it but not the tanks and you should be golden.
@@shawnmanson6193”don’t give it to Tyler, give it to me” -Soda “Don’t give it to Soda, give it to me” -Tyler Sounds like they are fighting over it to me dog
@@derf579111 ua-cam.com/video/3y8nGmI_Tsw/v-deo.htmlsi=FAGfHenpyecLHPBd this shows how little Soda cares & it was all content farming, people are just naive or forget these streamers are milking them
If t1 is smart he creates an alt, sends the pants to that alt and only sends it back & equip them right before the first raid. He dies with his warrior before that? Still got those pants to potentially sell them.
I think in the context he is saying its a dead stat for in raid dps environment ONLY not that its not good for HC. How do you not comprehend that? Have you ever raided in classic before, tanks are horrible at holding aggro.
@@SHRI3K3R this is objectively not true though. a lot of damage goes out to non tanks in dungeons/raids even if played well. That's just how game mechanics work.
In a raid situation a DPS using those pants would be more likely to kill all everyone, including themself. So yea the stam does not matter when Onyxia is eating roast beef with orc blood and troll saus.
playing a game where any gear you get after grinding for 100 hours plus you have to give it to whatever role the guild leader thinks is the best (probably is the best) is actually cringe. WoW players are fucking wild dude. Playing game packed full of macros so youre not even playing the game. Idk. yall weird.
Tank always has prio, especially in hardcore since hes tasked with making sure 40 other idiots live. Not a hard concept to grasp. Some pieces of gear or months of your life. Your pick.
Jesus, like... good for tyler for not dying and having a good run, but the dude is the kind of guy that wants everything for him, all the attention must be on him, his ego is unbearable... sorry t1 fans, just spittin facts over here.
Lol soda wants this item so bad. Trying to make it seem "bad" for DPS. That is some utter bs ^^ At the same time he is saying the pants "do to much dmg for dps" he is saying devilsaur is better, and gives you more dmg. Which again is less armor, so how it that better for dps? Do tell
I believe hes saying you can't use the pants in raid and burst damage without pulling too much treat. And if your not using the pants ability your better off just using devilsaur, which give more dps if your not using the pants ability. I dont play wow but from watching all this stuff it seems pretty straight forward. Def better tank gear.
@@troublishonehe won’t because you’re not. He doesn’t have the capacity to realize other people can deduce things from available information because he himself is not capable of doing so.
no pixel lust between frens. The Ancient Ones know that. And the most fair system for BEOs is everyone rolls because its equal value for all whether its used or "sold and exchanged".
pixel lust is when someone cares more about loot for themselves than enjoying the game with pals and being genuinely happy for them when they win the drop. And the only people who still have pixel lust are the ones who havnt played long enough to have been BiS on multiple servers for years and lack wisdom. After a while you realize that the loot is only a fun bonus for playing with pals and especially if everyone is getting powerful from steamrolling content and being reasonably but fairly generous to each other.
bro is saying stamina is a wasted stat on hardcore. how intellectually challenged is he? all hardcore raiding enchants are stamina on hardcore endgame lmfao
Stam is a dead stat for dps in regular...in hardcore stam is king. I'm not gonna go full dps preraid bis as a warlock because that requires alot of jsut shadowrath dgear that has no other stats on it. and you end up with like 2k hp....F THAT for raiding in hardcore.
you're lowering kill times with tranquil air which means lowering dps parses and the healers have to carry more than they should. It's not because nobody remembers it, it's because its trash and not comparable to salvation. You can have all the other blessings while you have salv. you can't have WF and tranquil air.
@@Gigantar62 you can totem twist with windfury buff up for 9-10 seconds just like air/agi totem at least in the start or put a shaman in with the highest threat players, generally a enh or healer could do that. Unfortunately its only for 5 man groups and not raid wide in classic.
You can have both totems up, just need 2 shamans in the group. The benefit that blessings have is one person can hit the entire raid, and you need less suboptimal buff classes. The benefit horde has is that WF is a completely novel spell and one of the best melee buffs in the game, and melee is the best dps. You can't dps at all if you are waiting for the tank to get more threat, which is more of a dps loss. And if we are comparing alliance v horde they don't even have windfury, the loss comparison there would be not having kings, which is a dps increase, but not even comparable to buffing the pumper melee with WF.
Ive never played wow before but seems incredibly messed up that soda even thinks he should get them pants, idk what the norm is for wow but the fact that it doesnt instantly go to the tank in that dungeon is actually wild to me
thats actually how the vast majority of guilds are. it dogshit. if you have the same role as the GL youre not getting shit because your raiding party will need for them just to give to the GL to suck them off and get a guild promotion. and if its not to give it to the guild leader, its so they can flip it on the auction. you'll legit have better luck getting a trustworthy group that actually splits the items you need by chatting with randoms in town and putting together a group based on first impressions. they'd still care more about not being a pos than your guild would.
@@Tride_gaming in a guild full of sweats maybe this is the best way of doing it but t1 is new, what incentive does he have to farm bis gear if it can all just be given to soda
It's a world drop BoE, it technically dropped in the dungeon but is not restricted to only the people in the dungeon. Can't fault them for wanting to give to the person that can get the most of them, or the person least likely to die and lose them.
Gear prio for DPS in classic is kind of pointless. Bosses die before phasing, DPS spend half the fight not pressing buttons to not pull threat, especially on Horde. Crafted Devilsaur leather gear is also comparable or better than anything that actually drops for a DPS warrior for those slots in the early phases, while tanks need plate. Tanks need gear so that other people are able to press buttons without ripping threat and thus use gear that'll go to them later. Vanilla threat mechanics suck and are 100% the worst part of the game.
Hot take. Thunderfury is better on alliance rogue than a tank. Threat drop and pumps. Dps is king. Brown dps are w/e with their hurry up and wait. Tanks don't need the tps if they're any good, and the raid is too. Hordes a dif story.
Geronimo winning is the funniest outcome from that roll
Couldn’t script it better and it was a 10% chance
Why would a mail user need plate legs? Isn't it a greed click? If Tyler us going to use them then that's need?
@@adamwillms14987 its an epic and its worth a lot of gold so its an all need type of item because of the value
@@adamwillms14987they mentioned everyone needing it for their race, and then that person can decide who it goes to in the race.
@@adamwillms14987 everybody needed on it including the healers. Nobody cared it gives you power over people lol.
LOL When soda said he wanted them in chat and Tyler started to begging it sounded just like the office when Michael finds out Toby is back PLEASE GOD NO
Tyler was definitely the best choice for content which is what this is really about.
Lol i love you nerds that point this out every video dude ckearly most dont care
@@MattSealey You literally watch the content since you commented on these videos. People like you boost confident so much holy
Oddly enough Tyler1 seems to actually enjoy wow. I never thought he would.
Same.
The hardcore element and the rankings helped him get into it, now he needs to try retail pvp.
@@FishboyAbzu retail is beyond cooked
@@FishboyAbzu yeah no LOL
@@nolan6067it's beyond cooked if you care about min/max needing out.😊
They shud've dueled for it - Lvl 53 Soda vs lvl 60 T1
i agree with soda. if you put in the time to farm the pre raid bis or whatever you deserve the upgrade more than the person who still has a green.
Thing is soda didnt put near the same amout of time as the ppl in the UBRS, Tyler/Summit/Maui where all present. Hes not even 60 so this is an argument against himself getting it, glad T1 got it even though hes afraid to use the on use 100 ap
@@charliep6444Tyler1 is gonna be dead & Soda is gonna be main tanking for as long as the guild exists.....
I've farmed dungeons in classic for pre bis 20 to 30 times and never had the item drop. Does that mean I less deserving of the person it did drop for?
@@charliep6444 If we take into account all the time he's spent managing the guild Soda has probably put more time than all 3 together. And he's the "safe" main tank option. So that's two points for them going to Soda.
That said, I would just give them to T1 just because it's funny and good for content. But there is also a pretty good chance that they are wasted like that. He could die or just not use them well.
Summit is a good third option if he wants to off-tank, since he was present when it dropped. Maui less so, since he most likely won't be in the raid.
Overall it's not even that big of a deal, just streamers being streamers lol
@@charliep6444 Thats just wrong. Soda used his time for the guild, content and not his character. And content is why this guild exist. He has to deal with alot of shit to make the guild work so saying he dosent deserve it cause he dosent put time into his char (= raid/guild) is just dumb
T1 might play alot but he sucks all the energy, resources and time of many other ppl out, just to make his character not die, while he killed other ppl around him. Meanwhile he cant even bind 10 keybinds, read his spells or proberly move while playing for many weeks and 100h+
It's pretty common sense that you want to gear your tanks first.. The beefier your tanks, the easier it is to hold threat and for the healers to heal. And in Hardcore, a dead tank can become a dead 40 man raid. All it takes is one bad dps not looking at the threat meter.
Yea buffing tanks damage also buffs your entire raids damage , doesnt matter how geared an individual dps is they will be capped by their tanks threat anyway especially as horde
its not actually about being "beefy" its about having enough dmg as tank so your DPS does not pull aggro - that is what wipes the raid usually
@@niklasw1956 It's a mix of all three. The more you gear the easier it is for healers. Having a geared tank is far easier to heal than one in blue pre bis.
Yea. But when the said tank doesn't want to use tab target and most dungeons click on enemies and usually clicks pets and or other frontline players and wastes time just standing and not generating threat . It is probably safer to give it to another tank
@@SpecialP5 Oh fore sure, you want to give it to a good tank haha but T1 is learning pretty damn fast.. I remember my first 60 back in 2004.. had no clue what I was doing for years.
I think it's super cool what this group of people have been doing with this game. The events, teams and role playing are next level. Absolute blast to watch
Thank god Geronimo won it. Everyone else would have simped for Kamalapoppins that is lvl 53 and not even there.
Sodapoppin was a kamala fan boy? noooo waaayyy lmao
@@tehfuqizg0inon588 he banned me from chat for not agreeing with is extreme political take about kamala LMAO
He's using the child as a defence lmfaoo
training dummy
They should go to T1 because he was there when they dropped.
Kamalapoppin aint so bad!!!! 🗿
I agree with almost everything you said in any of your videos so far, but with this one I do not agree... By this logic, any BoE should be rolled for Guild bank and then loot counciled, instead of giving it to a valid player who was in the group... If this is supposed to be tank item, and T1 is planned to be main tank, and he is in the group when it drops, he gets it if he is going to use it... I don't care if he is noob, or he might die next time he runs UBRS, or even in this run... he is a tank, it is tank item, it is an upgrade, he gets it (except another tank in the group needs and wins)...
love that horde players completely ignore "totem of tranquil air" for threat reduction because it´s on the same element as windfury and agility i guess^^
I raided as a shammy in classic for a year and a half and I can count the number of times I wasn't in a melee dps group on one hand. Zug zug.
well the paradox here is you wont need totem of tranquil air if u arent running windfury/agi totems
Yeah, windfury takes over, but when we raided, we had like 4 shamans. 2-3 would do windfury, other 1-2 did tranquil if threat was becoming an issue since our tanks weren't the best either. They were new and learning we taught them as we went, it was hard, but managed once they learned.
zug zug
the most chill ive ever seen sodapimpin
maybe empty sack xD
Bro has rlly matured since the MOP days lol
tyler1 really is wearing main character plot armor
Tylers going to wipe his entire raid if he's tanking.
He has the veterans baby sitting him, he will be fine
@@adamcathcart8519 Do you genuinely think he'll hold threat? lmao.
There is a spec where a simple rotation puts you up 10k threat first charge. Hopefully they teach him the rotation and DPS watch threat resets. @@Yue_Jin
7:05 “I’ll beat him to death” LMFAOOOOOOOO
Wouldn’t be watching this without T1💯
Bro should get legs if he binds more than 6 keys
I see more than 6, you're out.
@@Raphxx59 1-6 doesnt count LOL
2:55 soda forgetting for a sec this is hardcore. Stam Is NOT a wasted stat on dps xD
Send me the VOD TIMESTAMP
Tyler will die before MC which will make this even funnier
People will die in that raid for sure
oh, Tyler is 100% dying on his 1st MC run 😅 I am more worried about the poor melee that will accidentally die off bc of him not pumping enough threat
Just like how he would die before 40, 50, 60 right? its a baby game
@143jcm don't bother bro most wow players have half a brain
@@143jcm It was definitely a baby game for Tyler. Carried by his fanboys while questing and having dungeon groups happy to die for him when he screwed up again and again.
@@djlovesyou8302
@@djlovesyou8302 at least he ain't questing with pocket healer 24/7
Cmon Summit is obviously trolling
But you know he isn’t
@krogan3760 sadly yes.😭🤣
@@krogan3760 u obviously dont know the first thing about summit lmao the cringe is pathetic everyone in the comments thinks they know summit over on little video from onlyfangs Jesus Christ get over youreself
I have faith in Tyler. Has some of the most skilled tanks teaching him the way. With his energy, his in-game rage will hold threat. 😂
When is Tyler1 speccing into fury/ prot?
Thank God for HC realms, streamer containment zone.
People fighting over loot is bad enough, throw in a bunch of prima Donna streamers into the equation lol
The idea that its a punishment for farming pre raid bis obly works if its a temporary thing. If you have a permanent raiding group, then you should buff up the raid as beat you can. But its up to the persons discretion.
Tyler has to be Handheld.
Soda does not.
On the flipside, Tyler put in the effort to farm it, Soda was not there doing the work to get it.
the child is a better tank than Tyler lmaooo
Bro is forgetting about tranquil air totem from shamans
To be fair soda wasnt even in the dungeon
Loot council. Don't need to be.
@@Onigucciwhite man always gotta take from the black man
@@blob3106 😊
@@blob3106 cant take something from someone who doesnt own anything anyways
@@Onigucci oooh do you mean that he is the king of the stupid so he can have the gear of them? lol
I respect summit hasn’t ditched HC yet ❤love this content
soda thirsting so hard for pants
Does that girl always talk like that? Seems exhausting.
yep shes a vtuber.
At the start or after threat drops shamans in dps groups (not the tank group) should be able to drop windfury totem, immediately drop tranquil totem and finally drop windfury totem again once the initially buff from windfury totem runs out and leave it up this time. Or am I missing something?
Yes, totem twisting is good, but it still doesnt outshine pala buffs. But it's good enough.
Thing is, most classic scrubs suck at the game, so totemtwisting will fk up their mp5 and mana.
Totems are not a raid wide buff…
@@gabborage9186 your highest dmg are always grouped together
Waiting for that Ony full wipe raid...
OMG Tyler pull the kid as defense
Those are amazing tank legs because the AGI adds a significant amount of armor and dodge plus the AP and STR for threat gen PLUS the phat stamina PLUS the phat AC so yeah either give to a tank or everyone free rolls then if they wanna equip it they can or they can sell it and buy something they an equip themselves.
Tyler is 100% losing threat on a raid boss and wiping the raid lol I cant wait
Misleading title thought there was a fight is any form between the 2.
I love soda taking the minor L and turning this into content
Are we forgetting mizkif tanked molten core, 0 people died. Miz has died like 7 times lmao
Tyler was there when they dropped. Cmon man
OMG, Little Fighter 2, the legendary indie game. What a chad UA-cam account.
WHY TF CAN A MAGE NEED ROLL THOSE GREED HAS TAKEN OVER NEED
Epic BOE is always free for all roll.
@@mx-uf9lo no it isnt lol, thats the dumbest thing I've heard in this game. the group loot system is literally called need and greed for this reason.
@@itzgeko newgen 🤭
Who is that literal troll at the end?
Actually statistically T1 likely has the lowest death percent how many toons vs death.
At what time do they fight?
only in the title and their mind, so those fansboy can use their imagination without watching the video and spam chat say "fuck soda"
Lol how do you not snag Ony when she lands And pull her back to the spot as a tank?
Also not to nitpick but just not pressing buttons does NOT help if your tanks threat gen is trash vs the DPSer going crazy. Their threat value is exactly where it is until they die or the tank actually does more (or they taunt to match it for a moment).
Example, way back when TBC was "retail" I went along with my guild for a Gruuls lair farm. They had tanks already. I was attacking the boss, tank speced and geared but not trying to tank... I kept pulling agro on the actual OT.
They sent me PMs asking to lower my threat. I slowed my already slow roll even slower. Didn't help. They accused me of taunting off... Taunt wasn't even on my bars. So I stepped back and say down. The guild leader asked what I was doing over vent. I explained the situation. Got back up and started doing white dmg to the boss. The second the boss did his thing to the MT and switched... I had agro.
content stealing with zero creative addition? bot post
Your take on this tells me all I need to know 4mins in. You know the game homie clouds overrated for dps war in classic.
TBH I’m curious ur take on the PvP gear lmao is that allowed I assume not but bg isn’t rly a death
He should have disenchanted it for drama XD
Sodapoppin "Give me the loot even tho I havent even done that instance or hit 60 and I'm leveling an alt for some reason plus my annoying girlfriend healbots me 24/7" Chance Morris
He is a manchild. Never been responsible for anything in his life at 30 years old. He has a mod who handles all stream issues, he has people upgrade his PC for him, he has maids make his bed and dk his laundry for him, he only ever orders delivery food and literally needed his dad to show him how to cook an omelet.. I hope he never has a child because that thing aint living past 1 week.
You sound jealous lil bud
@@notVikkgwhats there to be jealous of 😂😂😂
wasnt it sodas rules no alts till 60 aswell? lol
@@Hourani95rule was changed, keep up ?
Shaman's have a totem to reduce threat of anyone within it's range. Trainquil Air Totem: Reduces the threat of all party members in 20 yards by 20%. Put this thing at her butt in phase 3 so the melee and ranged are in it but not the tanks and you should be golden.
GDKP Bought a item - 100g - 7 days of your £10 a month subscription for the temporary ban
Kamala Poppin tryna take these pants for himself >:(
Soda wasn't even in the dungeon man..... Misleading title
@@shawnmanson6193”don’t give it to Tyler, give it to me” -Soda
“Don’t give it to Soda, give it to me” -Tyler
Sounds like they are fighting over it to me dog
@@derf579111 ua-cam.com/video/3y8nGmI_Tsw/v-deo.htmlsi=FAGfHenpyecLHPBd this shows how little Soda cares & it was all content farming, people are just naive or forget these streamers are milking them
If t1 is smart he creates an alt, sends the pants to that alt and only sends it back & equip them right before the first raid.
He dies with his warrior before that? Still got those pants to potentially sell them.
Disagree there, he needs to figure out the active and that will take him a day or 2
That's a defeatist mentality of someone who thinks they will die.
Weak mindset, just don’t die EZ
Yeah he actually just equipped them like a gigachad and didn't die
Sell them? So.. ninja?
yeah soda is right btw
Saying stam is a dead stat for dps in HC is crazy.
In a group/raid, dps should never take dmg tho
I think in the context he is saying its a dead stat for in raid dps environment ONLY not that its not good for HC. How do you not comprehend that? Have you ever raided in classic before, tanks are horrible at holding aggro.
@@SHRI3K3R this is objectively not true though. a lot of damage goes out to non tanks in dungeons/raids even if played well. That's just how game mechanics work.
@@SHRI3K3R bruh u cannot be serious. Everyone takes damage the fk u even talkin about hahahahah
In a raid situation a DPS using those pants would be more likely to kill all everyone, including themself. So yea the stam does not matter when Onyxia is eating roast beef with orc blood and troll saus.
Take it to the guild leader lmao
what guild
playing a game where any gear you get after grinding for 100 hours plus you have to give it to whatever role the guild leader thinks is the best (probably is the best) is actually cringe. WoW players are fucking wild dude. Playing game packed full of macros so youre not even playing the game. Idk. yall weird.
L take. Stay on mine craft
Tank always has prio, especially in hardcore since hes tasked with making sure 40 other idiots live. Not a hard concept to grasp. Some pieces of gear or months of your life. Your pick.
Tyler main tank... such a bad idea...
Can we get a theme song for "Mr Tank"? Maybe like "Mr Plow".
Is t1 thier main tank. That would be content
dude sits there going on about people who farm pre raid bis should get items ( i agree ) then crys about not getting pants when he is lvl 53.
@@ravz9374 tbf Soda is just farming content with this, he knew this was great content that's why he chimend in
People who don't get jokes or sarcasm always annoy me, are you autistic or something?
let the man have his pants xd he is so new to the game and i rly want him to have a great experience
Do not let him tank :D or maybe teach him what thunderclap and "tab" does
so tyler being in the group and watching them drop has no significance
He literally got them and is wearing them
ye normally it doenst matter welcome to a guild, hard to understand for ppl who only run pugs. all g
@@wilddude4205 Go nerd away with your wow guild nobody cares bozo
The child's a better Tank than Tyler haha
So weird playing classic again feels like all the gear is trash stats
I think they should be banked until raiding but the way it's going raiding is a looking way off lol. I luv the excitement though.
It does not matter he already equipped it
@JustChill-zd4ib oh scratch that
T1 cant use em becuse hes literally not gonna be using its effect :P
Jesus, like... good for tyler for not dying and having a good run, but the dude is the kind of guy that wants everything for him, all the attention must be on him, his ego is unbearable... sorry t1 fans, just spittin facts over here.
Lol soda wants this item so bad. Trying to make it seem "bad" for DPS. That is some utter bs ^^ At the same time he is saying the pants "do to much dmg for dps" he is saying devilsaur is better, and gives you more dmg. Which again is less armor, so how it that better for dps? Do tell
I believe hes saying you can't use the pants in raid and burst damage without pulling too much treat. And if your not using the pants ability your better off just using devilsaur, which give more dps if your not using the pants ability. I dont play wow but from watching all this stuff it seems pretty straight forward. Def better tank gear.
@ «I dont play wow» but you take everything soda says as the truth.
@@haklaba i mean feel free to tell me where im wrong
@@troublishonehe won’t because you’re not. He doesn’t have the capacity to realize other people can deduce things from available information because he himself is not capable of doing so.
Donation to the monk
17:57 based
no pixel lust between frens. The Ancient Ones know that. And the most fair system for BEOs is everyone rolls because its equal value for all whether its used or "sold and exchanged".
All it took was an epic gear to make shit go crazy xD
did just get click baited? dammm
pixel lust is when someone cares more about loot for themselves than enjoying the game with pals and being genuinely happy for them when they win the drop. And the only people who still have pixel lust are the ones who havnt played long enough to have been BiS on multiple servers for years and lack wisdom. After a while you realize that the loot is only a fun bonus for playing with pals and especially if everyone is getting powerful from steamrolling content and being reasonably but fairly generous to each other.
Summit should raid lead mc at least once
bro is saying stamina is a wasted stat on hardcore. how intellectually challenged is he? all hardcore raiding enchants are stamina on hardcore endgame lmfao
Die I see that right that het got the legs AND 30 Gold?
These guys are having fun and parasocials keep defending them for no reason. Just enjoy the show.
Who is sodapopping?
If you wasnt at the ubrs run you shouldnt be getting any legs hearing some freak calls for who should get the legs here 😂
5:47 that math may be mathing 😅
Just macro it to another burst ability
Soda out here trying to brainwash people into thinking those are really for tanks. Lol
Go ahead and explain threat really quick.
Stam is a dead stat for dps in regular...in hardcore stam is king. I'm not gonna go full dps preraid bis as a warlock because that requires alot of jsut shadowrath dgear that has no other stats on it. and you end up with like 2k hp....F THAT for raiding in hardcore.
I like how Horde had Tranquil Air totem which does the exact same thing as blessing of Salv. But no one remembers it because Windfury.
you're lowering kill times with tranquil air which means lowering dps parses and the healers have to carry more than they should. It's not because nobody remembers it, it's because its trash and not comparable to salvation. You can have all the other blessings while you have salv. you can't have WF and tranquil air.
Also it's a totem so in 5 man you salv your tank too.
@@Gigantar62 you can totem twist with windfury buff up for 9-10 seconds just like air/agi totem at least in the start or put a shaman in with the highest threat players, generally a enh or healer could do that. Unfortunately its only for 5 man groups and not raid wide in classic.
for tranquil air shams would need to totem twist
You can have both totems up, just need 2 shamans in the group. The benefit that blessings have is one person can hit the entire raid, and you need less suboptimal buff classes. The benefit horde has is that WF is a completely novel spell and one of the best melee buffs in the game, and melee is the best dps.
You can't dps at all if you are waiting for the tank to get more threat, which is more of a dps loss. And if we are comparing alliance v horde they don't even have windfury, the loss comparison there would be not having kings, which is a dps increase, but not even comparable to buffing the pumper melee with WF.
Cloudkeepers shouldnt have been available til later phases right
its a boe, its been out since launch
incoming Summit crybaby scapegoating
are vei and soda dating or something?
i actually farmed for cloudkeepers. and got them lol
i farmed for them on the ghosts in the underground area outside kharazan
It's classic raids aren't hard bud lol yall prio is just cause soda a tank streamers are full of themselves
Ive never played wow before but seems incredibly messed up that soda even thinks he should get them pants, idk what the norm is for wow but the fact that it doesnt instantly go to the tank in that dungeon is actually wild to me
the idea is simple tho? if at the end of it all he's going to be the one having to tank all the raids.. you want the best tank gear on him.
thats actually how the vast majority of guilds are. it dogshit. if you have the same role as the GL youre not getting shit because your raiding party will need for them just to give to the GL to suck them off and get a guild promotion.
and if its not to give it to the guild leader, its so they can flip it on the auction.
you'll legit have better luck getting a trustworthy group that actually splits the items you need by chatting with randoms in town and putting together a group based on first impressions. they'd still care more about not being a pos than your guild would.
@@Tride_gaming in a guild full of sweats maybe this is the best way of doing it but t1 is new, what incentive does he have to farm bis gear if it can all just be given to soda
@@dinen5000 Sounds like you had a bad experience with guilds. Luckily you can always join another guild or make your own and stop being salty.
It's a world drop BoE, it technically dropped in the dungeon but is not restricted to only the people in the dungeon.
Can't fault them for wanting to give to the person that can get the most of them, or the person least likely to die and lose them.
Maybe they should assign some dps loot priority based on incoming gearscore.
Gear prio for DPS in classic is kind of pointless. Bosses die before phasing, DPS spend half the fight not pressing buttons to not pull threat, especially on Horde. Crafted Devilsaur leather gear is also comparable or better than anything that actually drops for a DPS warrior for those slots in the early phases, while tanks need plate. Tanks need gear so that other people are able to press buttons without ripping threat and thus use gear that'll go to them later. Vanilla threat mechanics suck and are 100% the worst part of the game.
Hot take.
Thunderfury is better on alliance rogue than a tank. Threat drop and pumps. Dps is king. Brown dps are w/e with their hurry up and wait. Tanks don't need the tps if they're any good, and the raid is too. Hordes a dif story.