every Toby Fox Song with the "Nightmare Knight" Leitmotif
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- a nightmare will awaken in your hearts in the shadow of the knight's hand.
(thanks to witids for the timestamps)
0:00 Nightmare Knight
2:18 Amalgam
3:06 The Door
3:50 The Chase
4:25 THE WORLD REVOLVING
4:52 Fountain (Scrapped)
5:47 The Dark Truth
6:37 you know what this is
6:53 Friendship (Toby Fox website)
all songs used this video can be found here
• Nightmare knight
#undertale
#deltarune - Ігри
![NIGHTMARE KNIGHT [Toby Fox] - Cover](/img/n.gif)
All songs used can be found here
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Where does it play in Knock You Down?
@kevinm5940 i don't remember, feel free to try to spot it if you want.
Does this mean me and toby fox are friends ｡ﾟ(TヮT)ﾟ｡
Nightmare Knight is so Kirby, I love it.
It was made with Kirby's adventure soundfont i think.
@@massgunner4152 It's kirby's dreamland 3.
True
WHAT THE HELL I ACTUALLY SOUNDS KIRBY LIKE
You guys might want to go listen to Kirby’s Dreamland 3 - Grassland 1. You might find something very interesting…
EDIT: Also Mountain Stream and Ravine Road from Kirby 64 and Canvas Curse
"you know what this is"
no, toby, i don't know what this is, what are you talking about you strange little dog
Yeah wtf is that song
papyrus
You know, because of this video I've realized that the biggest plot twist Toby can give regarding the titans is basically just making them sympathetic characters instead of destructive plot devices. Like could you imagine these towering behemoths turning out to be reluctant subjects that only destroy the world because they were told so? Or because they think that they have no other path to go in their lives.
Crazy innit.
They can't choose who they are in this world.
Basically, taking the idea of the Nightmare Knight himself to make the titans? That does sound pretty interesting
@@lurkathon no one can, not even the player
I am super lost, are the titans something that hasn't come up in the released chapters of deltarune or what are we talking about here?
@@GardenGD part of the legend told by ralsey
Even when it's put side to side like this, I just can't not associate this theme with Kirby 64. Not just the soundfont, but the entire composition, and it even has half of the Mountain Stream sprinkled in there too! It overrides the Undertale association SO hard
yeah, same here, nightmare knight just feels 100% like a kirby song
not much of an undertale association to begin with
@@multigrandmarquis True, true
Feel the same
When I heard 0:54 I felt my neurons activating because I feel like I heard that like 1 trillion times but never noticed it
Yeah, that's because it's in deltarune chp 1
That specific melody is the legend soundtrack from deltarune sped up and out of tune.@@minestar2247
yeah, i had listened to nightmare knights track before deltarune so when i heard many of these tracks there was a familiar element that kept bugging at me. It's cool to see where it originates from
bits of Hopes and Dreams has some of Nightmare Knight in it
Neat
Amalgam actually uses the BAaTH motif; in BAaTH, it's clearer and less creepy, fitting for Undyne the Undying's more defined form.
What's BAaTH?
@@thundermarisol Battle Against a True Hero
@@Ra-ss5pn Thx!
@@thundermarisol Battle Against a True Hero
Amalgam also has an enemy approaching motif
Cucumber quest fans can mourn here
😢
Well…
At least I don’t have to see Carrot again! iirc I didn’t like him that much :/
(sorry y’all)
nono the webcomic will be off hiatus soon right? right? RIGHT??
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@@eggnogisdead you’re probably gonna have to wait until the author finishes their VN for that one lmao
@@pelpel788 VN?
"You know what this is"...
N o I d o n ' t
Shoutout to Andrew Cunningham finding Gaster's Theme in The World Revolving, like, everywhere.
At least he reduced the places where you find them, he filtered everything
He just used other peoples work🤓🤓
this video's gonna be a relic in 5 year's time
you could literally comment this under any youtube video
@@sillywillywillysilly specifically talking about when we know who the Knight is and why these leitmotifs are here or if some were just hallucinated - I thought that was obvious but ya know!
bold of you to assume it'll only be 5 years
And I can't wait
0:00 Nightmare Knight
2:18 Amalgam
3:06 The Door
3:50 The Chase
4:25 THE WORLD REVOLVING
4:52 Fountain (Scrapped)
5:47 The Dark Truth
6:37 you know what this is
6:53 Friendship (Toby Fox website)
Nightmare Knight was almost definitely made in mind for Deltarune to some degree. This might be some insight onto what earlier versions of Deltarune looked like in Toby's mind.
Imagine he pulls a Megalovania and the Roaring Knight uses an updated version
@@KingsBardif that doesn’t end up happening,I’ll be extremely disappointed
its a fansong for the webcomic cucumber quest, though...? its named after the central antagonist. the art used is from the webcomic
@@bw000m I said in mind, not for.
@@Tails_The_Fox92 yes but why would a fanwork be created with an original project in mind?
amalgam has the nightmare night motif because they are living nightmares
I wonder how many people here know that the Nightmare Knight is a character from the amazing (yet currently on hiatus) webcomic “Cucumber Quest”?
Hiatus? The webcomic is dead, the only thing left is reading the books
i do, but i know nothing about it
Winter 2014 ahh webcomic
The instrument in "you know what this is" is called cuíca
-Brazil mentioned-
*Brazil (lightly) implied*
_The actual story of the intrument goes a little deeper, with it being brought to Brazil from Africa during the colonial period. But I couldn't find sources on the specific location_
It's the microsoft GS Wavetable Synth cuica from the standard drum kit.
There’s something always satisfying from watching these type of videos.
“❤” (13 minutes ago)
The more every secret gets revealed and analyzed, The World Revolving gets less and less Jevil's. Whatever hypothetical theme he had was simple and short, like Rouxls'. But everything that got revealed to him piled on top of his interpretation of it all. So, it still fits his vibe, but it'll never be the same.
I still think that Nightmare Knight will be the boss theme of the Roaring Knight, *CHANGE MY MIND*
I can't be the only one who thinks this song belongs in a Kirby game
Yes! it actually uses the sound font used in dreamland 3 and super star
I wonder if the Knight of Deltarune is gonna have a remixed version of Nightmare Knight as their theme.
I would be more shocked if it doesn't
The soundfont shared with Papyrus is just a cuica sound. It's in games like N64 games and is usually for tropical or silly songs, so I don't think it hints that Papyrus is the Knight, because it's so common.
Its not common in Toby's music though.
Would help if we knew the context to the song
1:33
"Hold on, am I sure this isn't a Kirby song?"
the sound that plays before starting a battle sounds extremely similar to the first 2 notes of Nightmare Knight - might even be a direct sample
Evidence for Papyrus being the Knight:
1. He's one of Toby Fox's favorite characters, but is still largely a joke character in Undertale. It's possible his appearance in Deltarune would be more serious
2. On Deltarune's Steam page, it mysteriously says "Huh? Papyrus? No, he's busy."
3. The "trousling of bones" heard when you inspect the door on his house becomes more distant between chapter 1 and 2
4. In Undertale, Papyrus jumps over you in an L-shape, like an actual Knight in chess. The distances from his house to the locations of the first two dark fountains are also in an L-shape, though trees are obviously in the way
5. Papyrus has motivation for being the Knight in Deltarune, since he is lonely and wants friends and praise
6. In Undertale, he wants to be a Royal Guard, which is a similar position to a Knight; Gerson was also a former Royal Guard member and has ties to the Knight
7. Papyrus and Sans' relationship with Gaster is mysterious. Sans has likely known Gaster since he is a scientist and possesses time travel powers, but Papyrus possesses none of this knowledge. Since Gaster is implied to be in Deltarune, the reason why could be elaborated on (perhaps Gaster is manipulating Papyrus into being the Knight)
8. It is mentioned that any Lightner can become a Knight if they have enough determination, so Papyrus is certainly not exempt to this rule
9. Papyrus' Special Attack is interrupted by the Annoying Dog, which as we all know is Toby Fox's own avatar. This could be his way of preventing any spoilers about Papyrus' true power. We should remember that while Undertale was released first, Deltarune has been in development for longer and is going to be greater in scale than Undertale, so it's likely Toby had already planned what Papyrus was going to be
10. Seam's quote about how a "strange knight" appeared one day mirrors the Snowdin shopkeeper's about how Sans and Papyrus showed up one day and asserted themselves. Also, the "strange knight" text is highlighted in red and white
11. 6:38
There is probably more, but this was all I could think of for now.
Never heard it the L jump before, nice touch.
I actually found concrete proof of papyrus being (a) knight in an old tweet but im gate keeping thid knowlage for a future video (we do a little trolling)
@@TheRealSuperKirby It happens after you spare him in Undertale. I also updated the original comment with a few extra things, like how the annoying dog stops Papyrus from using his special attack, possibly hiding his true power
@@TheRealSuperKirby I remember hearing someone talk about seeing something like that. I heard it was a drawing of Papyrus in front of a dark fountain.
@CrownedDoomer nope, If that exists I'd love to see it. You might be referring to the image in the spectrogram of mus_smile (the entry 17 sound) which looks like a skeletal figure on a horse in front of a dark fountain.
@@TheRealSuperKirby It could be that, but I'm not the person who claims to have saw that. I saw someone tweet about seeing this under a knight papyrus theory on twitter a few weeks ago.
i swore i knew everything about this game but it keeps going deeper my mind has exploded
The Dark Truth actually uses a modified Your Best Nightmare.
0:05 Nightmare Knight(A)
2:17 Amalgam (A)
5:48 The Dark Truth (A)
0:41 Nightmare Knight(B)
4:52 Fountain (scrapped) (B)
5:01 Fountain (scrapped) (BC)
5:37 Fountain (scrapped) (B) 2
0:53 Nightmare Knight (C)
1:35 Nightmare Knight (C) 2
3:20 The Door(C)
4:02 The Chase(C)
4:28 THE WORLD REVOLVING (C)
4:39 THE WORLD REVOLVING (C) 2
5:01 Fountain (scrapped) (BC)
6:38 you know what that is (C)
6:54 Friendship (toby fox website) (C)
Knightmare Knight being in Amalgan raises some serious redflags considering theres a monster you can interact with using the telephone and it shares some similiaritys with gaster
I always thought Amalgam used a heavily spookified version of Enemy Approaching, which would make sense since it's a heavily spookified monster battle. So that would mean Enemy Approaching might have some Nightmare Night DNA?
Since the start of amalgam is an enemy approaching motif, does that mean that enemy approaching has a nightmare knight motif?
All of Toby's leitmotifs are notorious for lining up with eachother even when they are different.
I love that Nightmare Knight uses the Kirby sound font
The world revolving motif is called the freedom motif
So I’d like to call this the darkness motif
The part of the song with the Nightmare Knight motif is not the freedom motif.
@@sheogorath6834 I’m not saying the freedom leitmotif is in nightmare knight. I’m trying to say that we should give this leitmotif a name that’s not the song name because of its significance and ties with dark songs.
a note re: friendship: I don't think it's any evidence of Asriel's connection to the knight at all - rather, an insight into Toby Fox's writing process and what the nightmare knight motif might ACTUALLY mean. Friendship was, like Nightmare Knight, composed as a Cucumber Quest fansong. I think, potentially, in its original form it represents the bond between the Nightmare Knight and Princess Parfait, the first real friend he had in centuries. This means, then, that Nightmare Knight is a tragic reprise of that friendship and the inevitability of fighting him despite his desire to Stop. I mean, isn't that what it sounds like? The rest of the song is a tense battle theme, but motif C SOUNDS tragic to me. It's not the Big Scary Nightmare Knight Theme, it's We Pity The Nightmare Knight For His Humanity.
What does this mean when we apply motif C to Deltarune, considering it always seems to pop up in vaguely sinister Dark World scenarios? Well, consider:
The Door is the precipice of the adventure, and it's terrifying at first but by the second time it happens you and Susie embrace it. You're scared at first, but really the Dark World is fantasy, adventure, that friendship.
The Chase is the keystone of my interpretation: It seems terrifying at first! You're in a horrid void and something chases you! But... replay the game and it becomes obvious that something is Lancer. Lancer isn't scary at all, and he is Susie's closest Darkner buddy. The second time it plays... the Rudinn Rangers are locking you up On Lancer's Orders because he wants to protect you. So once again we have a song that seems intimidating but is connected to a character who wants friendship.
The World Revolving throws a wrench in this idea - it pins a direct connection between the motif and The Knight. But... that part of the song doesn't connect to the next secret boss at all BIG SHOT connects to THE WORLD REVOLVING through the latter's main melody, not its intro. So... what if the motif doesn't involve the Knight at all? Seam and Jevil were close friends after all. It's their defining relationship. So while motif C MIGHT indicate a connection to the Knight, I think we shouldn't dismiss the original thematic weight of the Cucumber Quest incarnations of the motif.
Really good analysis! Didn't know friendship was also made for Cucumber quest
I love how this song is kind of just an epic version of the grassland 1 theme from Kirby's Dreamland 3
First one sounds like "Ah! Real Monsters" as well
Personal ratings:
Amalgam: 5/10 for fittingness (Everyman Knight + potential Gaster-Knight connection isn't too significant and is vastly overshadowed by other Knight and Gaster theories), 1/10 for soundingness (doesn't even sound like motif A)
The Door: 10/10 for fittingness (the Knight is creating the Dark Fountains), 10/10 for soundingness (that is literally just the Chase which is motif C)
The Chase: 8/10 for fittingness (currently indirectly related to the Knight, I would not be surprised if this theme re-emerged for the actual Knight encounter), 10/10 for soundingness (yeah that's the Nightmare Knight theme alright)
THE WORLD REVOLVING: 6/10 for fittingness (Jevil is more closely related to Gaster but does seem to have knowledge of the Knight), 7/10 for soundingness (sounds about right to me)
Scrapped Fountain Theme That Toby Fox Plans To Use Later: 8/10 for fittingness (the Knight is creating the Dark Fountains), 3/10 for soundingness (seems more original)
The Dark Truth: 8/10 for fittingness (Roaring), 0/10 for soundingness (That's You Idiot from Undertale, also known as the first part of Your Best Nightmare from Undertale, also known as Burn In Despair from Undertale, also known as Imminent Death from Deltarune, also known as major leitmotif in Vs. Susie, also known as what appears to be a general leitmotif)
you know what this is: ??/?? for fittingness (????), 10/10 for soundingness (yep that's motif C)
Friendship (website): ??/?? for fittingness (will probably be used in Deltarune), 10/10 for soundingness (yep that's the Nightmare Knight theme alright)
The Nightmare Knight image looks like the souls from Undertale being in the Knight's hand.
Unironically this sorta makes me believe that the Nightmare Knight is the Knight of deltarune
i wonder what they sound like with all of the nightmare motifs put together
Chaos
Realizing Nightmare Night has a heavily altered version of the first movement for The Legend.... Am I stinky dumb stupid or am I really smart for that? Hell if I know lol
probably gonna pull a megalovania where he made a song for a webseries then used an updated version of the song in his game
I just had a Thought imagine Nightmare Knight is basically one of the Titans like not exactly but their Shape Size as well as look would be .... similar hmm? 🤔
6:59 Actually the composition of this song closer resembles that of “Good Night”, the final song in Undertale’s soundtrack
I've searched "deltarune knock you down" on UA-cam and gotten plenty results.
That's not what I meant, I mean listen through the song to hear if you can find the nightmare Knight leitmotif, because I remember finding it at one point, but re-listening years later I couldn't find it.
Haven't heard about Knight-related motif before, but "Nightmare Knight" track sounds dope.
All of the "C" section parts listed! (Aka the main NK melody)
NK - 0:53
NK iteration2 - 1:35
The Door - 3:20
The Chase - 4:01
TWR - 4:28
ykwti - 6:37
Friendship - 6:53 (This is the closest to the og, being an almost direct quote musically btw)
Nightmare motif C in Friendship sounds a lot like Girl Next Door
the freedom motif is just edited penumbra phantasm
here me out: memoryhead is the knight
how: they can get in by seeping under the door
_how:_ it’s been proven they have determination
why: it’s known that the amalgamates are suffering, maybe they don’t in the dark world?
_why:_ it would be cinematic if the knight started exploiting the memories made along your journey, maybe disabling party members, maybe using them as attacks, maybe something else
*what*: toby fox once mentioned the ending of deltarune was based on a fever dream
nightmare knight's name and theme sound like a kirby villian and its theme respectively
the later part of friendship that's listed as 'B' actually sounds much closer to the part of nightmare knight that's listed as 'AB'. especially since that's the part that comes after the 'C' melody in both songs, i think that's the part that's being referenced there
Kris plays piano, 'friendship' used a piano instrument I believe. Kris is Asriel's sibling, so perhaps the similarities lay there.
If kris knight is true, perhaps 'friendship' is the song used when the conflict in the story with kris is resolved peacefully
I feel like some of them are a stretch but mostly -- yeah 👍
Something kinda fun I noticed is that Nightmare Knight and Lost Girl actually fit together surprisingly well.(specifically the beginning part of Lost Girl)
Edit:
Now that I think about it, the openings of each are just eachother but upsidedown... if that makes sense
So how does all this tie into Kirby's Dreamland 3
Meta knight is missing from the dark matter trilogy because he was busy opening dark fountains in deltarune
That wouldn't be a...?
"KNIGHTMARE" ☝☝🤓🤓🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤪🤪🤪🤪
6:38 actually i don't know what this is, why is it called that-
Same, and since it's from I believe a deleted website, no one ever will
@@TheRealSuperKirby oof, that's unfortunate..
Someone pointed out recently that the A melody of Lost Girl is also extremely similar to the C melody of Nightmare Knight. (I would link to a comparison but UA-cam hides comments with links.)
I think Father Alvin is either the Knight or knighted whoever is the Knight.
It's also at the end of Lost Girl
I don't want to tie UTDR projects and stuff to Toby's other projects he has worked on at all, but, honestly, I'd like to see how much inspiration Toby had throughout the time in DR,
Like, stuff from the Mother Series, Brandish, OFF, Yume Nikki, Cucumber Quest, Homestuck, etc.
Hopefully we'll get to see if the Knight in DR is inspired by the Nightmare Knight, in some or much aspects.
"you know what this is" Queen's talking sfx??
it's a cuica
Pretty sure Finale also has the C leitmotif as well and this song influenced ASGORE
Personally i think the beginning part of amalgam is a kinda broken version of the beginning of battle against a true hero n the power of neo. Which could still use the nightmare knight motif
You forgot Lost Girl and Girl Next Door
THE KNIGHT HAS A THEME????
someone get Andrew on this
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knightmare
so does anyone know what the book series was called for the char on the right
Cucumber quest
@@TheRealSuperKirby its been ages since i last saw that book and when i saw this image i was just angry at myself for not remembering it
Someone made timestamps in the comments here. I'm pretty sure they'll show up on the video if you copy them into the video description.
Done
Nightmare Knight sounds so kirby
7:45 Do the hustle
Hmm, why would Asriel be the knight? Wasn't he already the bad guy in Undertale?
as long as it's a different enough and interesting enough story, I'm fine with toby retreading old ground.
*Flowey was the bad guy in Undertale, he has a distinctly different character from Asriel, who will also have a distinctly different personality from grown-up Asriel in Deltarune.
@@undertraveler Flowey and Asriel may differ but both personas belong to the same individual; and you're still fighting Asriel as the final boss in the pacifist run anyway.
@@undertraveler
Still the same person, in different circumstances.
1:46 another lost girl reference?
Doesn’t the Lost Girl leitmotif literally share the first 7 notes of section C as well? And then kinda shares the rest of it, just with slightly different notes or something? Or am I crazy
Hey, Surreal made a remastered version of the Nightmare Knight theme and it sounds better than the original in my opinion
Nightmare knight? Whaaaa what's that theme???
Made for the webcomic Cucumber Quest, I think
Wheres that art from? I remember reading that webcomic but i forget what its called.
Cucumber quest
@@TheRealSuperKirby THATS THE ONE, thank you
Mate it's just a song Toby made for a webcomic ages ago, there's no significance to the story and the motifs here are only vaguely similar (Amalgam and The Dark Truth are especially huge stretches), the last two songs have nothing to do with UT/DR either
And before anyone points out Noisemaster's Theme/Metal Crusher, there's no UT significance there either it's literally just an old song he decided to repurpose
ok, where the heck did that cuíca cover of Nightmare Knight come from???? it says it's from "tobyfox.net" but i couldn't find a site with that name. explain to me the origins of that song and how it was found immediately pleeeese
Lost media probably
@TheRealSuperKirby Its the bonus track that Toby promised when a certain amount of donations appeared on Undertale's Kickstarter.
@NumbHydro I looked at the Kickstarter and couldn't find what you're talking about.
It's not papyrus' cool song. It uses the same instrument, but it's a different song.
@@TheRealSuperKirby ok
you forgot like all of the lost girl songs btw
I don’t know about this.
‘You know what this is’ and ‘Friendship’ definitely have the motif unquestionably, but neither are used in game and aren’t in anything official. Friendship was completely replaced in game by another Friendship song that has the motif of deltarune main theme and I think Gaster (maybe). So I don’t think these songs are cannon to deltarune and should be used in theory crafting.
As for ‘The Door’, ‘the chase’, and TWR, we need Andrew Cunningham on this. They sound similar to the beginning of C motif of NK. Not sure though as each one differs, and the similar parts don’t last for very long.
As for Amalgamate, The Fountain, and The Dark Truth, I completely disagree. Amalgamate has a different note pattern to the A motif. A motif consists of four notes with the second note being higher than the first, the third note being lower than the first, and the fourth higher than all of them with an echo. Amalgamate is a six note pattern that is split into two pairs of notes (with the first on lower than the next) that go in a descending order. I think that the change between the first four notes going up, down, up does sorta make the two themes sound almost similar, but the broader context around those notes separate them as distinct themes. I think it’s a coincidence basically. I think Toby could have put in a much stronger melodic connection there than three/four notes between the two themes if it was suppose to be an intentional reference.
As for ‘The Dark Truth’ and ‘The fountain’ I have no idea what you are connecting between those with the three motifs defined. Like TDT and motif A, TDT has a descending three note patterns, which is nothing like motif A which goes up down up. With motifs that simple, the differences stand out like a sore thumb. The same goes for The Fountain and motif B and C. The melodic parts of the Fountain’s that you compare it to NK really don’t sound anything like each other. The way the notes progress in each part are just completely different.
0:54
3:21
4:01
I think C is Kris Leimotiff
But so far none of the themes its in are particularly related to kris. Most of them are just general dark world themes, which makes sense since the knight creates the dark worlds, so his theme is attached to the general world.
Kris doesn’t have a motif yet as far as I’m aware
None of these songs have the motif
none of these leitmotifs use nightmare knight.. TWR, The chase and TWR use similar motifs but they clearly aren't the same
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How fans make Mike deltarune talk:
HOLY WHY DOES NIGHTMARE KNIGHT B SOUND LIKE THE LEGEND???
Which part of the legend?
@@TheRealSuperKirby The main beginning part. Nightmare Knight B just sounds like it sped up