GingerAle4Life one word. jealousy . I've even felt it a bit myself at times. Main thing, he's worked and worked at it . he's only got that fish house cas of his own hard graft and he deserves it. He's sacrificed a lot, and we've only just found out recently a lot more than we thought ..
The smallest species in the hobby is actually the hystrix (Potamotrygon wallacei.) I've personally seen a fully grown male with rolled claspers that was just 7in across. They usually are around $500 and harder to come by though. Also regular motoros should never cost more than $300. You can usually find marbled motoros for around that price too then it just goes up depending on the quality.
When you've got haters like Joey, you know your doing somethin' right! Lol He certainly doesn't deserve it, but unfortunately it comes with the territory. There are too many people out there unable to feel happy for other's success. It's quite unfortunate.
Love your channel. I'm just getting into South & Central American cichlids and your tanks are a great inspiration! Can't wait to see your dream fish store realised and filled with fish and tanks. I agree whole heartedly that Joey of King of DIY has done so much for the fish keeping hobby. People who hate him are just jealous of his success. His 2000 gallon is my dream tank. By the way, how are your electric blue Dempseys doing?
I can’t wait to see it happen! I love the care guides too! I am also a big stickler on the tank size to I just like seeing fish have a lot of space for swimming!
Seriously go to Quality Aquatics in Circle Pines, MN...they had Motoros there for around $200..They had black diamonds too. way cheaper than shipped to your door.
Chris get some poret foam. You can use it for tank dividers. And it's awesome biological filtration! It comes in black, blue, red, and i think green. 10, 20, 30, 40 ppi. You can buy large pieces in different thicknesses i love that stuff. Joey is awesome!
I live in the Philippines and I got mine for 4.5k Php converted into American dollars is 93 USD I got mine as a pup though, so the price changes significantly in different countries/regions Edit: I know he has already mentioned this but its hard to believe just because where you live the price changes bigger than expected
SantaMonicaHelp Assistant just in case you were still interested in the answer to your question, it is ok to have a number of tank mates with them. I have found that they are much more active and healthy without them. That being said, my motoros bred with red hook silver dollars and geophagus Surinamensis in the tank. Without tankmates, I have found that they utilize more of the tank space besides just the bottom. They’ll swim along all surfaces and glide in the current.
I hate to say it dude, but you are advertising this as a care guide for keeping a Stingray when, A, you have never had one, and B, you keep talking but I don't hear much factual information. Keeping a Stingray is definitely not for beginners but there is plenty of other freshwater fish that are harder to keep than a ray. Also, you talk about needing 500-1000 gallons when really all you need is more surface area. So a shallow 120 or 150 is plenty of room. Also, rays are relatively slow growing and if fed a proper amount but not over feeding a young ray pup will not outgrow a 120 or 125 for years. So really a guy/gal could easily put a young ray in a 75gal tank as long as they have plans to upgrade in the future. Bottom line, you don't know much if anything about ray keeping. Just because you watch other people that keep rays that doesn't make you a ray keeper.
Why would people hate Joey? ... dude is a class act and has done nothing but good things for the hobby.
GingerAle4Life one word. jealousy . I've even felt it a bit myself at times. Main thing, he's worked and worked at it . he's only got that fish house cas of his own hard graft and he deserves it. He's sacrificed a lot, and we've only just found out recently a lot more than we thought ..
Dude is a bitch
@@justinstuart8382 nah Joey is a dick and if you can't see it then your his bitch
@@thekurgan3688 he's the idiot that says you have to keep a oscar in a 90 gallon
Justin Stuart he only has that because he crowdsourced the funds
The smallest species in the hobby is actually the hystrix (Potamotrygon wallacei.) I've personally seen a fully grown male with rolled claspers that was just 7in across. They usually are around $500 and harder to come by though. Also regular motoros should never cost more than $300. You can usually find marbled motoros for around that price too then it just goes up depending on the quality.
When you've got haters like Joey, you know your doing somethin' right! Lol
He certainly doesn't deserve it, but unfortunately it comes with the territory. There are too many people out there unable to feel happy for other's success.
It's quite unfortunate.
Love your channel. I'm just getting into South & Central American cichlids and your tanks are a great inspiration! Can't wait to see your dream fish store realised and filled with fish and tanks. I agree whole heartedly that Joey of King of DIY has done so much for the fish keeping hobby. People who hate him are just jealous of his success. His 2000 gallon is my dream tank. By the way, how are your electric blue Dempseys doing?
I lost one but the other three are really thriving! I’m convinced some strains are a lot stronger than others!
I can’t wait to see it happen! I love the care guides too! I am also a big stickler on the tank size to I just like seeing fish have a lot of space for swimming!
Seriously go to Quality Aquatics in Circle Pines, MN...they had Motoros there for around $200..They had black diamonds too. way cheaper than shipped to your door.
Chris get some poret foam. You can use it for tank dividers. And it's awesome biological filtration! It comes in black, blue, red, and i think green. 10, 20, 30, 40 ppi. You can buy large pieces in different thicknesses i love that stuff. Joey is awesome!
Brother.. if you spend anything over $200 for a motoro you are in trouble..
Good luck with your store opening!
why do haters not like joey? I love that dude
thanks for the video it was helpful. keep it up
Great info buddy I enjoyed very informative too
I live in the Philippines and I got mine for 4.5k Php converted into American dollars is 93 USD I got mine as a pup though, so the price changes significantly in different countries/regions
Edit: I know he has already mentioned this but its hard to believe just because where you live the price changes bigger than expected
200-1000 for a sting ray??? DAMN SON... In Singapore Motoro stingrays are like SGD$15 LOL
Please get a bigger tank for that ray ASAP. Thanks
Why are you standing in the middle of nowhere in that part of the video lmfao
It stung me once! Is it possible to remove the needle?
really loved your video. I need a larger fish tank for my ray. do you have any suggestions on where i can buy one that isn't an arm and leg.
craigslist
They sell for 84 at the aquarium store down the street from me
@Nikosakii where at
Who the hell hates Joey?
Is't OK to have a medium size stingray and other fish types and sizes in the same tank?
SantaMonicaHelp Assistant just in case you were still interested in the answer to your question, it is ok to have a number of tank mates with them. I have found that they are much more active and healthy without them. That being said, my motoros bred with red hook silver dollars and geophagus Surinamensis in the tank. Without tankmates, I have found that they utilize more of the tank space besides just the bottom. They’ll swim along all surfaces and glide in the current.
How can you give all this bs advice when you've never owned one?
I hate to say it dude, but you are advertising this as a care guide for keeping a Stingray when, A, you have never had one, and B, you keep talking but I don't hear much factual information. Keeping a Stingray is definitely not for beginners but there is plenty of other freshwater fish that are harder to keep than a ray. Also, you talk about needing 500-1000 gallons when really all you need is more surface area. So a shallow 120 or 150 is plenty of room. Also, rays are relatively slow growing and if fed a proper amount but not over feeding a young ray pup will not outgrow a 120 or 125 for years. So really a guy/gal could easily put a young ray in a 75gal tank as long as they have plans to upgrade in the future. Bottom line, you don't know much if anything about ray keeping. Just because you watch other people that keep rays that doesn't make you a ray keeper.
Mine where 160
Fishler
I can get em for 150 to my door :-|
Where is this place you speak of?
Nazis? surely that's not good term . if you were a Nazi you'd have your fish in concentration camps, so you'd have tiny tanks 😁 just saying 👍
Gonna get a stingray for my 20 gallon long. Just need to save up the money.
Erick Martin just get a 10 it’s cheaper
It will die. 20 gallons is way too small for the Ray's bio load
R u mad I hope ur joking
That thing is huge!
Ronnie Rowe pretty sure it was a joke