23:15 You've made me nearly cry, Leigh. The property I've been living on for the past 6 years is going to be developed into a housing estate. Actually, I am supposed to be off the property in four days but I still have a legal right to be here for another month. However, due to my mental health, I've been very slow to build my home on wheels that I've been trying to put together for 2 years now. I have EVERYTHING I need to put it together but I haven't been able to. Anyway, to get back on track, there is a Mulberry tree just behind my bus that is about 6 metres high, and has a spread of about 7 metres. It has one light fruiting season, and then has a fruit spray that turns the tree Black with fruit. And I love Mulberries! Over the past six years I've taken cuttings and planted them all over the 40 hectares here. Sadly, they will all be bulldozed, including the parent tree in the coming months. I also have half a dozen purple passionfruit vines that produce heavily with no care. That's the key to a good passionfruit vine. Let it grow naturally and NEVER give it too much care. I'm also fearful of the fate of the wild pythons, Potoroos, lizards, goannas, wallabies, koalas, as well as the dozens of species of birds that call this place home. My magpie and butcherbird friends will be displaced, as well as lot of waterfowl, parrots, and cockatoos. It's just sad Anyway, sorry for rambling again. On the bright side, when I leave, I'll be off on many adventures!
I don't recall if I ever told you about my 'experience' with goat farming. I might relate it one day but it's a long story. EDIT: 06:00 We had a pair of nanny Boer goats because our kids (puns are fun) wanted them when we moved onto a big property. The two youngest girls would spend hours in the goat play paddock with the 2 goats, playing 'chasey', and generally spoiling the two goats. We had a wild Billy goat from another property that was rutting and came in chasing the two little girls. This goat was a giant, as in, it was almost my height (I'm 170cm) and had horns that were easily 50cm each. It harrassed the nannys, and the kids couldn't get into the yard, so I went in after a few days and dealt with it. The meat wasn't edible because it was in full rut, but the 8 dogs we had ate well for a while. That's not my goat farming story hehe. That's another one.
Blimey you’re on a roller coaster ride with your goats !! Good to hear about the sale. Glad Darwin is ok ,Veg garden and planting coming along nice , all the best 🙏😊
Thanks mate. Yes Darwin was looking like he was at death's door for the morning. Toon said he had been knocked back by a lady dog & was dying of a broken heart lol. The veggies are going so well. We had our first pickings today! The first of many for sure.
Goats are a lot of hard work with little return as far as money. They are a lot of joy, heart breaking times and fun all at the same time. You can't explain, only goat owners truly know. I am still trying to get over for a farm stay!
21:00 I love your garden. If I ever settle again (I'm 60 yrs old with a wanderlust), I will fulfil my lifelong dream of creating a fruit forest for my kids and grandkids., and my great, and great great grandkids.
Bananas: I always thought Bananas were a member of the grass family. However, they are recognized as a herb. So, Leigh, you can now say that you have giant banana herbs in your garden.
Last comment. 24:42 I was first introduced to Lemongrass tea (made using real lemongrass) in 1982 up in Far North Queensland on a property owned by brothers who might have described themselves as 'alternative lifestyle people' today, but back then we were generally called hippies or freaks. It was kind of a halfway house for people who lived in Cedar Bay, a very remote self-sufficient hippy community. The best trail in and out passed through that place. There have been tropical fruit trees growing on that property since the 1960s. In fact, Cedar Bay, and that property were probably the first places in Australia to grow various types Sapote and other 'exotic' tropical fruits.
Hope all pans out mate, goats is one of the first thing I think of in relation to you & the good wife’s channel … you certainly have it a good go, and if needs be 👍👍
Yeah ... reality sets in with farming. My family had a huge dairy farm & commervial dairy with 20 other milk shippers. The Banks ended up with it all! Took 30 years; but in retrospect it was inevitable. The Banks sold the Farm land & now it's a huge commercial mall. The buyers were able to extract the"FARM" land out of the Agricutural Land Reserve with few problems. Farmers can't do that; but Real Estate Investors can .. at least in Canada. Cut your losses & take it easy on yourslves.
in the US large farms and commercial building plots hire teams of goats to eat all the vegetation. they can clear a rai in a day. you just need a trailer :D
Hi leigh and Toon, I'm sorry to hear about the struggle with goat farming. But since you're the last ones standing, is it worth just holding on that little bit longer, maybe?
That's been the master plan mate since post covid. We keep the faith & will keep going for as long as we can, but t shit mate, it's hard going for chuff all for so long.
@ToonLeighporpeangfarmThailand i do get where you're coming from, and understand the hardship, whatever you decide to do, I hope it works out for you both of you, keep the faith and I'm wishing you all the luck, ❤️.
There's an article in ASEAN NOW and THAI NEWSROOM about a good number of Thai cattle being exported to Vietnam. Might possibly be an option if goats are not working out as expected. Cheers!
Sounds like you are heading towards an easier retiring years. Things are meant to get easy with age not harder and goats are on the harder but at least you sold some, but might be a chance to downsize a little. I run wagyu and Angus Cattle so I feel your pain
You're absolutely right NBM. Our aim is to eventually end up with a buff herd of about 15 nannies & a breeding buck. Unfortunately, the meat sector only wants bucklings below 20kg. At this rate it looks like we'll reach retirement age with a herd of about 500 nannies 🤣🤣🤣
Was it that when you got into goats the market was good, and so too many people jumped into it and the resulting glut killed the prices? And now that they are all bailing out the market will start return to more normal and viable rates? Or external factors are the cause of this downturn? Perhaps a measured downsizing to a small breeding herd to reduce the burden but allow you to ramp up again easily if/when it gets better again? Just some thoughts, Cheers bloke, regards to Toon.
Ahhh mate maybe just keep 10 of the best and stop breeding them for a year ??? Whatever your decision is, number one priority is you guys, always!!!! Your quality of life is paramount wish I was there, all the best decisions are made during a good Leo session,, see ya soon mate 🍻👍
The Crabtrees are sound mate. Believe us, if we could sell half the nannies we would. No one, absolutely no one wants nannies. Looks like we're eating plenty of goat on your next visit 🤣😂🤣
Time to re-examine the total enterprise. Goat sales have dropped but their importance to the farm ecosystem remains, as does the value of the herd. So what about the fish and fishing? Farmstays? Maybe natural farming courses? I have been through it and it does get easier as you age. Cash is king, the older you get the less you can do and the more help you need.
Very true Tony. It's something that we talked about this morning. The herd powers the farm. Without them we wouldn't be able to be 100% organic. Their manure is fertilizer for hundreds of trees and rapidly expanding vegetable production. The plan is to introduce a percentage of it as black soldier fly larvae feed to produce fish/ poultry food. The spent fodder is valuable mulch and the waste from gatin becomes biochar to help amend the poor soil. Our Farmstay bookings are running at about what we like. 1-2 weeks a month is a nice balance. We've held back opening the fishing lake to anyone, preferring to offer it to Farmstay guests or anglers who book.
Sorry about the goats mate but one day you might be glad of it because working the farm as well as looking after the goats must be really hard work and that's 7 days a week. When I saw the title of your video I thought you meant you were packing up and leaving the farm altogether!
Hi mate you will come out the end of this ok more people pack up with goats they will have to come to you, you both work so hard on the land enjoy everything that grows each one is a winner. You could be back in the uk cold 555 . Keep going you will reach your dream . 🍺
Yeah that's a bum-twitch thinking about being back in Blighty. We honestly don't know if we're doing the right thing hanging on for as long as we can & hopefully cornering the market in our area.
I don't understand the problem with the goats. I was looking at keeping 3 or 4 just for milk, cheese and butter but everything goes on hold when I see your vids. You've obviously done your homework. What's the issue with milk goats other than the time to look after them?
Absolutely no issue with keeping a few dairy goats for your own consumption. Apart from the additional time required for milking, finding pure dairy breeds here in Thailand is far from straight forward. Although we have an Anglo Nubian with 2 offspring, the rest of our 70+ herd are mixed breed purely for the meat industry. It was pure luck that we got her - beautiful lovely natured goats.
Wish i could help on on giving you some sound advice Leigh mate ..Not a clue🤦♂ ....Apart from looking at the fishing side of things for tourists with accommodation .And Toon teaching her Thai cooking skills .
Hey mate sorry to hear about the struggles with the goats at the moment, maybe don't sell the whole herd but maybe keep a few as pets and to help keep the weeds down? Caviar Limes is that the fancy name for Finger limes? I didn't think Thailand had allowed the importation of them yet from Australia? I'm very curious to see how they grow in Thailand and if there is a market for them? Unfortunately they apparently don't travel to well once picked? Anyway take care Toon and Leigh I'm sure you guys will work it out.
I’ve been following you guys from a distance and have always wondered why you have kept goats. All work and little return. If that was me I would sell them all and diverse into other things like frogs and the big edible snails. You could invest in the top end premium frogs to enhance your returns. Lifes too short to work yourself into the ground for sweet f all fella. Dont work yourselves into an early graves
@@TLFarm cool, I've heard they are better than non-organic beef, and I'd try them if they were cooked first. I just wouldn't want the telling me I had to eat them.
You should keep at least half the herd. Its not going to stay like that forever and building the numbers back wouldnt be easy. You would make more money making videos and help from subscribers. You need the goats for video materials. Also renting a place on your farm would make a lot more than anything else. Focus on these to make money and other things on the farm are the materials for the videos. Grow more mulberry :)
have considered the goats over the years and was quoted 5000 bht for boer goat at the agricultural show 5 years ago but never saw where the market is as in Isaan there arent many Halal people. Also selling small bottles of milk for children to feed them at markets seems a bit of an ill omen on their capability to provide a livable income as farm animals only. A few people have small goat farms near here and clear the road side scrub for fodder fist in best dressed and takes time to grow. So relying on free roadside fodder as the ground as is yours is scorched earth this year. Man is the bread winner here if you have enough rai or alternatively grow tomatoes if you have the water. Corn koniou is good but if cooking to sell have to sell to strangers at the new pricing per bag. The village aunties will screw you out of income insisting 4 for 20 baht not 3 or even 2 nowadays. with padook they will want older price as well and many will say they want smaller fish for bbq which you lose on selling by the kilo as feeding individually purchased fingerlings is expensive and speed of growth isnt easy to manage. My younger wife needs to be tougher but we are part of a community and their hierarchy. Breeding cows and you are under the control of the local vet sperm provider who has third party interests changes breed availability regularly and manipulates the ignorant. ie. hell buy your nice x breed off you once its obvious what is going on and the market is down south or already controlled by the few wealthy farmers. Free range chickens are probably good if can make field feral proof with cheap roofing iron.
I’m doing my homework at the moment regarding Thai farming ie Buffalo/Cow/Sheep/pigs could even be chickens. Which one or Two. Think it’s difficult to make a living farming.
It's tricky at best. For a good while we were flying (even after the floods & poisoning.) Cow and pig farmers at also binning it off around here. Currently, chickens and chicken eggs are doing well. 5 years ago they weren't!
Unfortunately lee you will never make money in Thailand I have tried everything and I have never had any money back it's hard in thailand mate the times I have wanted to just get on a plane and leave good luck
I'm commenting as I watch again. Kinda like having a delayed conversation, I guess. I'm kind of surprised that given there are fewer goat farmers around, your business hasn't picked up. There must be a decent Muslim population around (obviously), and I'd assume there is a healthy Indian population in Thailand, much like here in Australia. Personally, if it was easier for me to source here, I'd eat goat over sheep or lamb. Goat has a far better flavour, without that disagreeable fattiness of lamb and mutton. I'd eat Kangaroo over beef here, but for some reason, roo meat has become more expensive than Beef now. Ten years ago, roo meat was cheap as. Nowadays it's become a bit of a delicacy.
how about making the goats into some type of product yourselves??lik jerky or salami or maybe ring all the indian and muslim restaurants locally and in bangkok etc? on the upside, you now have the monopoly on goat farming in your area
Why did you invest in so many voracious animals when you still at such an early stage in succession? Your land is barren and scarred, and goats will only exacerbate the situation. Would it not be better to focus on cover crops for the time being?
I’m not being rude but you’re crazy if you believe that you’ll ever make a worthwhile business raising goats. 100 @ B300 is less than my monthly rent. If your doing it for satisfaction and being propped up via UA-cam that’s fair enough.
@@TLFarm I'm glad i just read this comment that goats were high priced before. My girlfriends sister has a goat farm that she created at her fathers advicewith money she and her husband had saved working 5 years in Taiwan and missing there children grow up. I've been back here in Nong khai for a month after 6months back in blighty. I come back and most of her herd of goats have died of something leaving about 10. Along with the casualties were two females which i paid 3000 each 3 years ago. They cost me nearly that in medicine and food up keep over time and It appears that those goats have died too leaving us with one boy kid. Total waste of time and money. When i heard 300baht a goat i thought i'd been had. Worst thing you can do is take advice from a Thai man.
@ToonLeighporpeangfarmThailand of course... I misread "on the brink" and "so close to giving up." Thailand is infamous for foreigners realizing it's not paradise .
23:15 You've made me nearly cry, Leigh. The property I've been living on for the past 6 years is going to be developed into a housing estate. Actually, I am supposed to be off the property in four days but I still have a legal right to be here for another month. However, due to my mental health, I've been very slow to build my home on wheels that I've been trying to put together for 2 years now. I have EVERYTHING I need to put it together but I haven't been able to. Anyway, to get back on track, there is a Mulberry tree just behind my bus that is about 6 metres high, and has a spread of about 7 metres. It has one light fruiting season, and then has a fruit spray that turns the tree Black with fruit. And I love Mulberries! Over the past six years I've taken cuttings and planted them all over the 40 hectares here. Sadly, they will all be bulldozed, including the parent tree in the coming months.
I also have half a dozen purple passionfruit vines that produce heavily with no care. That's the key to a good passionfruit vine. Let it grow naturally and NEVER give it too much care. I'm also fearful of the fate of the wild pythons, Potoroos, lizards, goannas, wallabies, koalas, as well as the dozens of species of birds that call this place home. My magpie and butcherbird friends will be displaced, as well as lot of waterfowl, parrots, and cockatoos. It's just sad
Anyway, sorry for rambling again. On the bright side, when I leave, I'll be off on many adventures!
I don't recall if I ever told you about my 'experience' with goat farming. I might relate it one day but it's a long story. EDIT: 06:00 We had a pair of nanny Boer goats because our kids (puns are fun) wanted them when we moved onto a big property. The two youngest girls would spend hours in the goat play paddock with the 2 goats, playing 'chasey', and generally spoiling the two goats.
We had a wild Billy goat from another property that was rutting and came in chasing the two little girls. This goat was a giant, as in, it was almost my height (I'm 170cm) and had horns that were easily 50cm each. It harrassed the nannys, and the kids couldn't get into the yard, so I went in after a few days and dealt with it. The meat wasn't edible because it was in full rut, but the 8 dogs we had ate well for a while.
That's not my goat farming story hehe. That's another one.
Blimey you’re on a roller coaster ride with your goats !! Good to hear about the sale. Glad Darwin is ok ,Veg garden and planting coming along nice , all the best 🙏😊
Thanks mate. Yes Darwin was looking like he was at death's door for the morning. Toon said he had been knocked back by a lady dog & was dying of a broken heart lol.
The veggies are going so well. We had our first pickings today!
The first of many for sure.
Ha ha re Darwin, know the feeling 😀🙏
Goats are a lot of hard work with little return as far as money. They are a lot of joy, heart breaking times and fun all at the same time. You can't explain, only goat owners truly know. I am still trying to get over for a farm stay!
As I wrote in my comment on your latest video, I didn't get this in my feed. I'm watching it now.
21:00 I love your garden. If I ever settle again (I'm 60 yrs old with a wanderlust), I will fulfil my lifelong dream of creating a fruit forest for my kids and grandkids., and my great, and great great grandkids.
That sounds like a fantastic idea mate. To leave land in a better state that you started with is a wonderful thing 👍
Nice! Appreciate the vid. We live similarly in the Ozark mountains, USA
Bananas: I always thought Bananas were a member of the grass family. However, they are recognized as a herb. So, Leigh, you can now say that you have giant banana herbs in your garden.
hang in there man . rural life is better than city life in my opinion.
Absolutely mate. The farm is where we want to stay for the rest of our years.
Last comment. 24:42 I was first introduced to Lemongrass tea (made using real lemongrass) in 1982 up in Far North Queensland on a property owned by brothers who might have described themselves as 'alternative lifestyle people' today, but back then we were generally called hippies or freaks. It was kind of a halfway house for people who lived in Cedar Bay, a very remote self-sufficient hippy community. The best trail in and out passed through that place. There have been tropical fruit trees growing on that property since the 1960s. In fact, Cedar Bay, and that property were probably the first places in Australia to grow various types Sapote and other 'exotic' tropical fruits.
You didn't quite convince me with the grasshoppers mmm lovely! 😅
You know what you have to do. You are managing a business and you know your priorities. Trust yourself!
Hope all pans out mate, goats is one of the first thing I think of in relation to you & the good wife’s channel … you certainly have it a good go, and if needs be 👍👍
If you are the last goat farmer in the area now, then you may get a steady demand, especially if you advertise.
We love your vids mate. Don't give up, make business decisions. It's different. More fishing comps please! :)
Yeah ... reality sets in with farming. My family had a huge dairy farm & commervial dairy with 20 other milk shippers. The Banks ended up with it all! Took 30 years; but in retrospect it was inevitable.
The Banks sold the Farm land & now it's a huge commercial mall. The buyers were able to extract the"FARM" land out of the Agricutural Land Reserve with few problems. Farmers can't do that; but Real Estate Investors can .. at least in Canada.
Cut your losses & take it easy on yourslves.
in the US large farms and commercial building plots hire teams of goats to eat all the vegetation. they can clear a rai in a day. you just need a trailer :D
Hi leigh and Toon, I'm sorry to hear about the struggle with goat farming. But since you're the last ones standing, is it worth just holding on that little bit longer, maybe?
That's been the master plan mate since post covid. We keep the faith & will keep going for as long as we can, but t shit mate, it's hard going for chuff all for so long.
@ToonLeighporpeangfarmThailand i do get where you're coming from, and understand the hardship, whatever you decide to do, I hope it works out for you both of you, keep the faith and I'm wishing you all the luck, ❤️.
There's an article in ASEAN NOW and THAI NEWSROOM about a good number of Thai cattle being exported to Vietnam. Might possibly be an option if goats are not working out as expected. Cheers!
Sounds like you are heading towards an easier retiring years. Things are meant to get easy with age not harder and goats are on the harder but at least you sold some, but might be a chance to downsize a little. I run wagyu and Angus Cattle so I feel your pain
You're absolutely right NBM.
Our aim is to eventually end up with a buff herd of about 15 nannies & a breeding buck.
Unfortunately, the meat sector only wants bucklings below 20kg.
At this rate it looks like we'll reach retirement age with a herd of about 500 nannies 🤣🤣🤣
Was it that when you got into goats the market was good, and so too many people jumped into it and the resulting glut killed the prices? And now that they are all bailing out the market will start return to more normal and viable rates? Or external factors are the cause of this downturn? Perhaps a measured downsizing to a small breeding herd to reduce the burden but allow you to ramp up again easily if/when it gets better again? Just some thoughts, Cheers bloke, regards to Toon.
I agree it's finished, less stress .if you can live without it
Ahhh mate maybe just keep 10 of the best and stop breeding them for a year ??? Whatever your decision is, number one priority is you guys, always!!!! Your quality of life is paramount wish I was there, all the best decisions are made during a good Leo session,, see ya soon mate 🍻👍
The Crabtrees are sound mate. Believe us, if we could sell half the nannies we would.
No one, absolutely no one wants nannies.
Looks like we're eating plenty of goat on your next visit 🤣😂🤣
Time to re-examine the total enterprise. Goat sales have dropped but their importance to the farm ecosystem remains, as does the value of the herd. So what about the fish and fishing? Farmstays? Maybe natural farming courses? I have been through it and it does get easier as you age. Cash is king, the older you get the less you can do and the more help you need.
Very true Tony. It's something that we talked about this morning. The herd powers the farm. Without them we wouldn't be able to be 100% organic.
Their manure is fertilizer for hundreds of trees and rapidly expanding vegetable production. The plan is to introduce a percentage of it as black soldier fly larvae feed to produce fish/ poultry food.
The spent fodder is valuable mulch and the waste from gatin becomes biochar to help amend the poor soil.
Our Farmstay bookings are running at about what we like.
1-2 weeks a month is a nice balance.
We've held back opening the fishing lake to anyone, preferring to offer it to Farmstay guests or anglers who book.
Any small scale farming is a losing proposition. Homesteading for your own use is the way to go but you have to enjoy it.
No Worries, if You hang on , You'll be the only One with goats, the price will sky rocket and You'll be setting pretty.
Sorry about the goats mate but one day you might be glad of it because working the farm as well as looking after the goats must be really hard work and that's 7 days a week. When I saw the title of your video I thought you meant you were packing up and leaving the farm altogether!
Hi mate you will come out the end of this ok more people pack up with goats they will have to come to you, you both work so hard on the land enjoy everything that grows each one is a winner. You could be back in the uk cold 555 . Keep going you will reach your dream . 🍺
Yeah that's a bum-twitch thinking about being back in Blighty.
We honestly don't know if we're doing the right thing hanging on for as long as we can & hopefully cornering the market in our area.
Hang in there!, being the only goat farm will have its pro's in time! ;)
Cheers Paul. We were gobsmacked when we heard 300tbh buys you a doe! & Yet a
“I don’t think (they were) slaughtering a goat for a demon… but whatever.” 2:22
😂😂😂
Yeah, not much finest quote 🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand the problem with the goats. I was looking at keeping 3 or 4 just for milk, cheese and butter but everything goes on hold when I see your vids. You've obviously done your homework. What's the issue with milk goats other than the time to look after them?
Absolutely no issue with keeping a few dairy goats for your own consumption.
Apart from the additional time required for milking, finding pure dairy breeds here in Thailand is far from straight forward.
Although we have an Anglo Nubian with 2 offspring, the rest of our 70+ herd are mixed breed purely for the meat industry.
It was pure luck that we got her - beautiful lovely natured goats.
Don't you dare. Been following you for years.
OK. Yes Agree. Goat stew is wonderful.
Better than lamb.
You need to keep a small amount to help control the bush around you growing out of control
Hope it works out, maybe being the last man standing will bring you more business.🤞🏽
I think it is a good idea to get rid of all the time consuming goats, so you can concentrate more on the rest of the farm.
Wish i could help on on giving you some sound advice Leigh mate ..Not a clue🤦♂ ....Apart from looking at the fishing side of things for tourists with accommodation .And Toon teaching her Thai cooking skills .
Hey mate sorry to hear about the struggles with the goats at the moment, maybe don't sell the whole herd but maybe keep a few as pets and to help keep the weeds down? Caviar Limes is that the fancy name for Finger limes? I didn't think Thailand had allowed the importation of them yet from Australia? I'm very curious to see how they grow in Thailand and if there is a market for them? Unfortunately they apparently don't travel to well once picked? Anyway take care Toon and Leigh I'm sure you guys will work it out.
I’ve been following you guys from a distance and have always wondered why you have kept goats. All work and little return. If that was me I would sell them all and diverse into other things like frogs and the big edible snails. You could invest in the top end premium frogs to enhance your returns. Lifes too short to work yourself into the ground for sweet f all fella. Dont work yourselves into an early graves
you're planning on eating the grasshoppers or for chickens? I've heard of both, just asking
Grasshoppers have always been one of Toon's favourite snacks. Any surplus she'll sell to her friends and local folks in the village.
@@TLFarm cool, I've heard they are better than non-organic beef, and I'd try them if they were cooked first. I just wouldn't want the telling me I had to eat them.
You should keep at least half the herd. Its not going to stay like that forever and building the numbers back wouldnt be easy.
You would make more money making videos and help from subscribers. You need the goats for video materials.
Also renting a place on your farm would make a lot more than anything else.
Focus on these to make money and other things on the farm are the materials for the videos.
Grow more mulberry :)
have considered the goats over the years and was quoted 5000 bht for boer goat at the agricultural show 5 years ago but never saw where the market is as in Isaan there arent many Halal people. Also selling small bottles of milk for children to feed them at markets seems a bit of an ill omen on their capability to provide a livable income as farm animals only. A few people have small goat farms near here and clear the road side scrub for fodder fist in best dressed and takes time to grow. So relying on free roadside fodder as the ground as is yours is scorched earth this year. Man is the bread winner here if you have enough rai or alternatively grow tomatoes if you have the water. Corn koniou is good but if cooking to sell have to sell to strangers at the new pricing per bag. The village aunties will screw you out of income insisting 4 for 20 baht not 3 or even 2 nowadays. with padook they will want older price as well and many will say they want smaller fish for bbq which you lose on selling by the kilo as feeding individually purchased fingerlings is expensive and speed of growth isnt easy to manage. My younger wife needs to be tougher but we are part of a community and their hierarchy. Breeding cows and you are under the control of the local vet sperm provider who has third party interests changes breed availability regularly and manipulates the ignorant. ie. hell buy your nice x breed off you once its obvious what is going on and the market is down south or already controlled by the few wealthy farmers. Free range chickens are probably good if can make field feral proof with cheap roofing iron.
I miss the ducks 🦆
I’m doing my homework at the moment regarding Thai farming ie Buffalo/Cow/Sheep/pigs could even be chickens. Which one or Two. Think it’s difficult to make a living farming.
It's tricky at best. For a good while we were flying (even after the floods & poisoning.)
Cow and pig farmers at also binning it off around here.
Currently, chickens and chicken eggs are doing well.
5 years ago they weren't!
@@TLFarm I think everything goes around now it’s the turn of goats !, so maybe you should go along with the rough times.
Hi there where abouts are you in Thailand as we are situated in udon Thani and would love to buy some goats.
We're in Kamphaeng Phet province, district Pang sila thong. Yep, we live in a thong! 🤪
Unfortunately lee you will never make money in Thailand I have tried everything and I have never had any money back it's hard in thailand mate the times I have wanted to just get on a plane and leave good luck
I'm commenting as I watch again. Kinda like having a delayed conversation, I guess. I'm kind of surprised that given there are fewer goat farmers around, your business hasn't picked up. There must be a decent Muslim population around (obviously), and I'd assume there is a healthy Indian population in Thailand, much like here in Australia.
Personally, if it was easier for me to source here, I'd eat goat over sheep or lamb. Goat has a far better flavour, without that disagreeable fattiness of lamb and mutton.
I'd eat Kangaroo over beef here, but for some reason, roo meat has become more expensive than Beef now. Ten years ago, roo meat was cheap as. Nowadays it's become a bit of a delicacy.
Do you advertise goats for sale anywhere? I can think of facebook but must be other places.
how about making the goats into some type of product yourselves??lik jerky or salami or maybe ring all the indian and muslim restaurants locally and in bangkok etc?
on the upside, you now have the monopoly on goat farming in your area
300 bath is very cheap
I'm looking for three goats......
Why did you invest in so many voracious animals when you still at such an early stage in succession? Your land is barren and scarred, and goats will only exacerbate the situation. Would it not be better to focus on cover crops for the time being?
😊❤❤xx
No youre not ! ( haven't watched yet , was jus my 1st thought )
its the same with cattle, just sold every thing, to much work and no money, waste of time
Good luck with your goats but if all fails UK is a great place too.
Turn it into goat curry
I’m not being rude but you’re crazy if you believe that you’ll ever make a worthwhile business raising goats. 100 @ B300 is less than my monthly rent. If your doing it for satisfaction and being propped up via UA-cam that’s fair enough.
Normal price is 6,000tbh not 300tbh.
@@TLFarm I'm glad i just read this comment that goats were high priced before. My girlfriends sister has a goat farm that she created at her fathers advicewith money she and her husband had saved working 5 years in Taiwan and missing there children grow up. I've been back here in Nong khai for a month after 6months back in blighty. I come back and most of her herd of goats have died of something leaving about 10. Along with the casualties were two females which i paid 3000 each 3 years ago. They cost me nearly that in medicine and food up keep over time and It appears that those goats have died too leaving us with one boy kid. Total waste of time and money. When i heard 300baht a goat i thought i'd been had. Worst thing you can do is take advice from a Thai man.
Hundreds of videos over many years of the same thing . When are people going to learn . No harm in trying , but get out while you can .
The clue is in our channel name - Porpeang Farm, not Toon & Leigh 'getting out' 😉
@ToonLeighporpeangfarmThailand of course... I misread "on the brink" and "so close to giving up." Thailand is infamous for foreigners realizing it's not paradise .
Teach the goats how to dance and get ‘em to go work at some local bars!
No bars in our neck of the woods. Shame, coz Brownie can grind with the best of them!