Gimr, would really appreciate if you could add like another 30 mins to an hour to the video of just a black screen saying, "This is here to prevent spoilers. There is nothing to watch past this point." It makes you not want to watch when you click the video and see 15 mins and know plup has to win 2 sets.
If you're using Chrome, install the Anticipation extension, it hides the timers on UA-cam and Twitch so that the only way to know the length of the video is to watch it.
@@KIDLACROIX420 personally I prefer if they say "set 1" on the video even if they play only one set is the best way. That way it prevents spoilers and doesn't take way longer to upload.
Wow...first Melee vod I've watched in awhile, and the comments section is among the worst I've seen. To both the Hungrybox fans AND attackers: a lot of you are acting like 6 year olds who dropped their ice cream. Grow up, because this is an embarrassment.
The meta needs to change away from everyone picking fox against Hbox. It looked like it was changing for a moment and players started choosing their mains against Hbox and they were doing better! Seeing mango and plup go fox was kind of sad, considering they’ve both beat him as their mains relatively recently.
No. Did you see the second set at ceo? Hbox had him downloaded. Hbox was just the better player this set. Does not matter what character Plup was playing
@Ali A if the character doesn’t matter like you said, then he should’ve used sheik since he played sheik all day. I agree Hbox would’ve won either way, but I’m pretty sure it would’ve at least been a closer game if he had used his Sheik
drewstello muntkins You pretty much have to go Fox against Hbox, as Fox has the best odds of killing Jiggs quickly. If you don't kill him quickly, you have to play his game of attrition. Armada made that work for a while with Young Link.
The melee community isn't inherently more toxic and if anything, just the same toxicity and bandwagon as the next competition fandom.That said, even if you hate Hbox for his "playing for victim" or blowing the situation out of proportion, it shouldn't affect how you see his gameplay, and vice versa. Cheering your guy on, doesn't mean pray to the lord that the other guy catches on fire. I'm Mango Nation and Plup Club all the way, hate Hbox's outward demeanor (don't know him personally, duh), but respect his tourney effect.
Man this match up is so stale. Fox spamming lazers and fishing for string of 1-2 hits Puff eating the lazers because it's still better to hang back and punish a positioning mistake and get a free kill. People always say fox should win this matchup but at the highest level of play it he winner is often decided by who makes less mistakes, but Puff has a higher allowance. Puff mistakes are harder to spot too, so most people don't even realize missed punishes
Excellent points! What it basically boils down to is both character experience loads of neutral encounters per game. The thing is, puff can lose 5 or 6 exchanges in a row and just gain percent, but fox can die from losing one single exchange.
People tune in so they can watch hbox lose lmao. No one wants to see him win except incels and degenerates at this point. Hbox 2016-2017 isn't bad tho.
Respect to both players. Plup's run after a 10 am loss is insane. And being that he was the only person to take a game off hbox speaks wonders to his skill. Hbox looked dominant as hell the whole tournament so I can't say I'm surprised he won. Everyone should go watch the post interview. Hbox spoke some shit that might help this comment section out. Both players played out of their minds. It just so happen that Plup lost steam on the match on Dreamland. No biggie. Plup has been well documented as someone who won't fight through game he knows he won't win. Eventually I'd hope this community would start maturing from this stupid debate and just enjoy melee for what it is. A PARTY GAME pogChamp
Hey, thanks for the replays :) Would be nice to have GF videos last 40 mins instead of spoiling the result because of the duration, same for the Plup vs Mang0 in Losers' Finals, it's just over 8 mins long, the viewer knows that whoever wins game 1 wins the set. Would you consider adding a black screen at the end of the videos to artificially extend them? Something like 40 mins for GF and 20 mins for non-GF
@@X0v3r na, it's just not fun to watch. HBox might be trash as a human but that wouldn't matyer if his sets where exciting. I just really don't like puff in general. It's like watching flies fuck
Can someone explain? Why is Hbox so hated? Sorry, I'm a Smash 4 player who recently found out about melee playstyle _(fast af)_ . And I actually like it... but it's too late for me to get actually good at this game "^-^
@@murabito4699 Hbox plays campy, which is extremely boring to watch and play against. You can see from how much he just sits on ledge and rather than approaching he waits for his opponent to approach and then tries to punish small spacing mistakes.
Wow, fml. And I thought he was playing so well and cool. But now that you guys said that, I must say that it's true. Hbox was not aggressive at all. He was patient... reeeeeallyy patient. And that playstyle can be boring to watch sometimes. However, I'm a smash 4 player after all. I can't tell if a match is too boring or not. I get excited when someone does a wavedash and all that stuff that smash 4 doesn't have haha.
Plup was focused on holding a direction hoping he had the hard DI needed to escape, but he should’ve been mashing. Too bad tho idk why Hbox held him so long lol
Diego Salazar Personally, I think Hbox was still first with Armada and Leffen basically getting to the #1 spot. I would’ve given both Armada and Leffen first and second seed though. Also, Armada wasn’t in Smash Con 2016 while Mang0 won and Hbox got second, so I think that’s an example. As for retirement, this is the first super major he decided to not go to.
drewstello muntkins yeah I don’t really know how to do that Let me first add this I’m really happy with the speed that they upload everything and how much they upload. But other games have uploaded videos and will be auto set to something like 2 hours regardless since there should be no way a set goes that long. I’m not sure if they can do that now and ppl be ok with it, but in other games I don’t see ppl who mind sometimes 1 hour of nothing.
Lol you can not like Hbox and not be salty. It’s only people that try and discredit his gameplay. To those people I say “he’s winning get over it” not asking anyone to like him 💜💜
of course, you can dislike hbox all you want, as long as you dont go posting "HBOX IS KILLING MELEE!!!! FUCK HBOX!!1!" on every melee video ever, then you're fine
Not necessarily what I hoped for, but Hbox played great. In spite of this set, I'm glad to see a wider spectrum of players placing 1st at supermajors. I honestly wonder if hbox's eventual retirement will end everyone's salt (mine included) or if we'll just find some other player to bitch about.
Hungrybox is the most important player in Melee rn, he and his Puff are constantly pushing the boundaries not only for them, but for all the community, hell it's been at least 10 years of people trying to figuring out how to deal with his meta and we are far from totally understand it, Armada developed Young Link and then Fox only for him, M2K dropped the Marth and then Zain picked it up, Leffen thought he figured out the matchup with the lasers but Hbox adapted. Armada was the only player who pushed him to his limits, therefore their legendary sets at EVO and GTX for instance. Whether you like it or not, Hbox is not killing Melee, he is kipping it alive.
Geez. I thought that it was uncommon for dominant tournaments to happen like at evo this year. Hbox dropped one game to the 2nd in the world, and that's it...
People complain about Hbox play style but he is literally facing a character that hard counters puff. Like Fox beats puff. Without doubt. If my character is predicted to lose against another, I'd do anything it takes to win.
The issue is that everyone uses the same damn characters “I think Im going to main Fox or Falco” people should train with other characters that can beat hbox jiggly puff maybe another Jigglypuff or even peach...its just its the same character matchups constantly but the top players dont use fox look at hbox or armada
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Y’all gotta stop casting hate on hbox when the game allows his playstyle to be completely viable. Obviously he’s going to utilize boring-play to his advantage, it’s what any dedicated pro player would do if they truly want to win. P.S. Referring to people hating hbox over his “playstyle.” Idk anything about him irl.
Dude I don't even dislike Hbox, puff is just so god damn broken...like no disrespect to Hbox but seriously do you guys even have a clue how much harder plup's game was from an input perspective?? People really try to act like fox is more broken, but that shit is HARD, meanwhile puff takes a nap on you after one upthrow and you just die immediately.
I’m a little late on this response but how long have you been in the melee community? Pressing buttons and being technical isn’t what the game is about. Had and SilentWolf are two of the most technical players out there and they consistently lose to most of the top 20. It’s not about inputs. It’s about spacing and adaptability.
@@SaturnSnapple I've been here since launch day, 2001, and yeah I know Hax money, there's a reason I still use pink falcon. And I know it's more than inputs, what I mean to say is I hate seeing incredibly talented players like plup (who also has God-tier spacing, a la samus/shiek) lose to a wall of back airs, grab-proof crouching, and insta-kills
I hate hbox finals because there is no heart, momentum, and enthusiasm I see with any other matchup. I do not play videogames to win; I play videogames to flex and if I am watching someone play videogames I want that flex.
Pretty sure hbox could destroy all his detractors in the comments without throwing out a single back air or camping them lol there’s levels to this shit fellas
I love all the Hbox haters when Fox is literally the strongest character in melee AND Jigglypuff is such a light & floaty character that it's not even funny.
He's top tier but has faults. Fox isn't even that dominant in this game tbh. Unlike Bayo and Metaknight in Sm4sh and brawl. Tiers don't even matters at top level, it's the player.
Global, I believe ocelots comment was not directed towards you. Also yah I agree with what you said about it being the player and not the character when it comes to the top level in melee. That’s exactly why I don’t despise Hbox myself. He’s at the top because he’s so good at catching his opponent off guard and capitalizing on every single mistake. GG Hbox
I feel like the Hbox fans crying about the haters are starting to get more vocal than the haters themselves. Like, I'm a Hbox fan, but these fans that are wishing death upon those who hate HBox should kinda chill too. By no means do I think that the haters who find any way possible to hate Hbox are in the right either, but cmon as a community we should know way better (and no, melee is not dead because of Hbox, people been crying about that for over a year, and it's clearly not the case, funny meme at this point though). Mad respect to all competitors and good shit to TBH8 and its staff, great tournament.
Marisa Nya first of all you are wrong, all he is doing is making a joke. secondly, to argue that someone minding their own business is toxic, is toxic itself. finally, you have an anime profile picture so your opinion does not count.
@@B1llthech1ck5n you mentioned mango not doing anything like that but can I mention both his evo wins, pretty sure 2013 he only lost a few games or better
@@B1llthech1ck5n what are you on about I love watching hbox I think he's really clutch and that's what makes it fun I'm just saying I remember mango doing something similar
HBox, good with puff and only puff. Any other pick and he's not making it past quarter. Ultimate crutch character. It's like getting good with a gun and taking the gun to a knife fight. Legal, but shitty. Such an underwhelming play style. Nothing exciting about upthrow into rest or jab reset into rest or rest period. How do you get hype about that?
You don’t even have to get uthrow uair, you can kill with usmash, laser camp and force her to approach and kill her there. It’s all about spacing and how you approach. Also single hit uairs are very important, prevents hbox from negating puff’s weaknesses with sdi
SeightJam SeightJam rephrase your comment plz. I don’t fully understand. Hungry Box is my least favorite professional player, but he’s a great guy playing my favorite game and making a living doing it. I just wouldn’t wish depression on anyone.
Gimr, would really appreciate if you could add like another 30 mins to an hour to the video of just a black screen saying, "This is here to prevent spoilers. There is nothing to watch past this point." It makes you not want to watch when you click the video and see 15 mins and know plup has to win 2 sets.
If you're using Chrome, install the Anticipation extension, it hides the timers on UA-cam and Twitch so that the only way to know the length of the video is to watch it.
Antifrost wow thank you
@@KIDLACROIX420 personally I prefer if they say "set 1" on the video even if they play only one set is the best way. That way it prevents spoilers and doesn't take way longer to upload.
@@Antifrost cant find it
nvm lololol
GREAT JOB, DEAR SON!! YOU ALMOST DID NOT DROP A GAME!! GREAT TOURNAMENT!! HUNGRYBOXMAMA
Wait are you actually hbox's mom?
YES!!!
@@TeoEmil nicccccce i like it when moms support their son with gaming
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@@TeoEmil well holy hell. Hbox is #1 in the world, has a tech job, and has his mom backing him. Dude is set.
Wow...first Melee vod I've watched in awhile, and the comments section is among the worst I've seen. To both the Hungrybox fans AND attackers: a lot of you are acting like 6 year olds who dropped their ice cream. Grow up, because this is an embarrassment.
Eh, it's what you come to expect of youtube comments.
@@SpoonsOfApe No, not really.
The meta needs to change away from everyone picking fox against Hbox. It looked like it was changing for a moment and players started choosing their mains against Hbox and they were doing better! Seeing mango and plup go fox was kind of sad, considering they’ve both beat him as their mains relatively recently.
drewstello muntkins we need plup sheik
Agreed, especially with Plup. He seems to do better with his Sheik than his Fox tbh.
No. Did you see the second set at ceo? Hbox had him downloaded. Hbox was just the better player this set. Does not matter what character Plup was playing
@Ali A if the character doesn’t matter like you said, then he should’ve used sheik since he played sheik all day. I agree Hbox would’ve won either way, but I’m pretty sure it would’ve at least been a closer game if he had used his Sheik
drewstello muntkins You pretty much have to go Fox against Hbox, as Fox has the best odds of killing Jiggs quickly. If you don't kill him quickly, you have to play his game of attrition. Armada made that work for a while with Young Link.
*looks at the dislikes*
Oh hey, HBox won
A whole 78 lmao
@@nfvoodz8828 The ratio is what is important my good man
@@Alex-ud6zr yes, can't forget the 550 likes
The melee community isn't inherently more toxic and if anything, just the same toxicity and bandwagon as the next competition fandom.That said, even if you hate Hbox for his "playing for victim" or blowing the situation out of proportion, it shouldn't affect how you see his gameplay, and vice versa. Cheering your guy on, doesn't mean pray to the lord that the other guy catches on fire.
I'm Mango Nation and Plup Club all the way, hate Hbox's outward demeanor (don't know him personally, duh), but respect his tourney effect.
i love the reaction of the crowd, overwhelmingly bored and ready to go with one big boi screaming at the top of his lungs
One more Big House win and HBox will tie Mango for number of Big House wins.
#factsnooneaskedfor
Pretty interesting fact tbh
@@juanpedro_mov7372 'tbh' hmm...
I just projectile vomited onto my monitor.
He may be tied, but his wins weigh more now than ever before
Everyone looked tired and played a little off. Hbox in the end was the only one who still played consistent
The crowd was so "meh"
Man this match up is so stale. Fox spamming lazers and fishing for string of 1-2 hits
Puff eating the lazers because it's still better to hang back and punish a positioning mistake and get a free kill.
People always say fox should win this matchup but at the highest level of play it he winner is often decided by who makes less mistakes, but Puff has a higher allowance. Puff mistakes are harder to spot too, so most people don't even realize missed punishes
A smart fucking comment. About time.
I agree. Puffs make a lot of mistakes but no one notices unless it’s like a missed rest or something lol
Excellent points! What it basically boils down to is both character experience loads of neutral encounters per game. The thing is, puff can lose 5 or 6 exchanges in a row and just gain percent, but fox can die from losing one single exchange.
“HBOX IS KILLING MELEE!” said the salty hbox hater as he prepares to watch a melee tournament next weekend
I don't think he's killing melee, just making it more boring to watch.
People tune in so they can watch hbox lose lmao. No one wants to see him win except incels and degenerates at this point. Hbox 2016-2017 isn't bad tho.
globalHell >anybody who doesnt share my exact opinion is a degenerate and incel
SkullKid24 I’m not exactly rooting for a guy who can’t stay loyal to his girl and keep his dick in his pants.
@@johnkramer2144 didnt mang0s gf also once accuse mang0 of physical abuse? If I remember correctly everyone just assumed she was lying and dropped it
The amount of advertisements in these videos is too damn high
I love the ads. More money to fund the tournaments and more money in my Boy Gimr’s pockets!!
the gimz always winz
Hungrybox is the ultimate antiFox
Respect to both players. Plup's run after a 10 am loss is insane. And being that he was the only person to take a game off hbox speaks wonders to his skill. Hbox looked dominant as hell the whole tournament so I can't say I'm surprised he won. Everyone should go watch the post interview. Hbox spoke some shit that might help this comment section out. Both players played out of their minds. It just so happen that Plup lost steam on the match on Dreamland. No biggie. Plup has been well documented as someone who won't fight through game he knows he won't win. Eventually I'd hope this community would start maturing from this stupid debate and just enjoy melee for what it is. A PARTY GAME pogChamp
Can you link the interview please and thanks?
@@SaturnSnapple you'll have to watch the last 10 minutes of the twitch stream from vgbootcamp. It's not on UA-cam or clipped anywhere yet. Sorry.
@@SaturnSnapple link for interview was just posted if ur still interested ua-cam.com/video/clBtrqkacGI/v-deo.html
9:32~ SO CLUTCH
I am amazed by pulps run this year though. Big gratz to him.
But nothing can be taken from Hbox's singles dominance as of late. True king rn.
That throwaway game completely killed Plup's momentum :(
Hbox going off, though. Good shit.
Hey, thanks for the replays :) Would be nice to have GF videos last 40 mins instead of spoiling the result because of the duration, same for the Plup vs Mang0 in Losers' Finals, it's just over 8 mins long, the viewer knows that whoever wins game 1 wins the set. Would you consider adding a black screen at the end of the videos to artificially extend them? Something like 40 mins for GF and 20 mins for non-GF
Hbox looking dominant.
PixxelTrixx Of course. Without Adam, he’s pretty much got free reign of the game except when Mango decides to play good and even then it’s 50/50.
HBox winning murders melee
Brian Barraza I feel like u just hate Hbox. If anyone else plays puff it's ok
@@X0v3r na, it's just not fun to watch. HBox might be trash as a human but that wouldn't matyer if his sets where exciting. I just really don't like puff in general. It's like watching flies fuck
Brian Barraza so, if a puff wins a tourney what are ur thoughts
Well the video length spoils this
Congrats to Hbox
lol all these people salty about hbox winning in the comments
Better than being a soulless hbox fan lmao
Can someone explain? Why is Hbox so hated?
Sorry, I'm a Smash 4 player who recently found out about melee playstyle _(fast af)_ . And I actually like it... but it's too late for me to get actually good at this game "^-^
@@murabito4699 Hbox plays campy, which is extremely boring to watch and play against. You can see from how much he just sits on ledge and rather than approaching he waits for his opponent to approach and then tries to punish small spacing mistakes.
@@murabito4699 He play's boring, he's a douchebag, and he plays the worst character in the game
Wow, fml. And I thought he was playing so well and cool. But now that you guys said that, I must say that it's true. Hbox was not aggressive at all. He was patient... reeeeeallyy patient. And that playstyle can be boring to watch sometimes.
However, I'm a smash 4 player after all. I can't tell if a match is too boring or not. I get excited when someone does a wavedash and all that stuff that smash 4 doesn't have haha.
I wonder what happened in the first Dreamland stock. When Hungrybox held Plup in a grab for a half second, up threw and rested without any DI.
Plup was focused on holding a direction hoping he had the hard DI needed to escape, but he should’ve been mashing. Too bad tho idk why Hbox held him so long lol
@@SaturnSnapple but there was no di on the upthrow, that's why the commentators were confused
@Chizypuff that’s why I explained it lol. Plup thought that he had the di already so he just kept holding his direction
@@SaturnSnapple he wasn't holding a direction
He was probably mashing and got caught with no DI
I'm glad sm4sh isn't the only game where specific characters and people get hate just for winning.
its in every game dude
Jigglypuff grand finals experience simulation:
"Its still the first set?"
Lol
Was this the first big tournament without Armada?
Diego Salazar yes Armada retired for play melee he say in his youtube channel
Xmr-alexX yeah i know, but was wondering if this tournament was the first one without him and how different it was without it’s best player
Diego Salazar Personally, I think Hbox was still first with Armada and Leffen basically getting to the #1 spot. I would’ve given both Armada and Leffen first and second seed though. Also, Armada wasn’t in Smash Con 2016 while Mang0 won and Hbox got second, so I think that’s an example. As for retirement, this is the first super major he decided to not go to.
Diego Salazar Armada is NOT the best player. Arguably not even top 3.
@@SeightJam he was ranked #3 this year dude
I wish we made videos like this longer
When it’s 14 min we know who wins
You can almost guess just by looking at the like ratio too.
You have to learn to hide it from yourself
drewstello muntkins yeah I don’t really know how to do that
Let me first add this
I’m really happy with the speed that they upload everything and how much they upload.
But other games have uploaded videos and will be auto set to something like 2 hours regardless since there should be no way a set goes that long. I’m not sure if they can do that now and ppl be ok with it, but in other games I don’t see ppl who mind sometimes 1 hour of nothing.
Can I say I don’t like Hbox without being asSALTed?
Cjmax _
Nah you’re good mang.
Yeah, you can
Lol you can not like Hbox and not be salty. It’s only people that try and discredit his gameplay. To those people I say “he’s winning get over it” not asking anyone to like him 💜💜
of course, you can dislike hbox all you want, as long as you dont go posting "HBOX IS KILLING MELEE!!!! FUCK HBOX!!1!" on every melee video ever, then you're fine
Yup
leffen didnt play hbox?
How can this puff ball be stopped?
Not necessarily what I hoped for, but Hbox played great. In spite of this set, I'm glad to see a wider spectrum of players placing 1st at supermajors. I honestly wonder if hbox's eventual retirement will end everyone's salt (mine included) or if we'll just find some other player to bitch about.
I think the nature of his dominance and his character make him a relatively unique target. Maybe if there's a top ic's player we could see it.
Good set
god this game is incredible
How appropriate that the thumbnail always has a sleeping Jigglypuff. Really encapsulates the audience
Can’t wait to see Plup get beat by HungryBox again next year in grand finals
This matchup seems familiar... :)
Anyways, can't wait for "Hungry and Leffen Part 2". Hopefully, they'll make up their previous fight.
I wanted that too. And a Hungrybox vs. Zain rematch. But maybe next time.
ok but who calls hungrybox “Hungry”
Evo was the Part 2. Hbox had 6-0ed Leffen the prior tournament.
Smh, how did I forget their EVO match. :(
After that depression streak from s6, evo and ssc, it’s good seeing hbox winning every now and then.
movement.exe has stopped working
Hungrybox is the most important player in Melee rn, he and his Puff are constantly pushing the boundaries not only for them, but for all the community, hell it's been at least 10 years of people trying to figuring out how to deal with his meta and we are far from totally understand it, Armada developed Young Link and then Fox only for him, M2K dropped the Marth and then Zain picked it up, Leffen thought he figured out the matchup with the lasers but Hbox adapted. Armada was the only player who pushed him to his limits, therefore their legendary sets at EVO and GTX for instance. Whether you like it or not, Hbox is not killing Melee, he is kipping it alive.
They really put on a show for this one 😤
Geez. I thought that it was uncommon for dominant tournaments to happen like at evo this year. Hbox dropped one game to the 2nd in the world, and that's it...
honestly, more top players should pick up puff. all they have to practice is throw>rest, roll>rest, and avoiding everything else.
I like how i can just look at how long the video is and just tell that hungrybox wins
You’ll learn to hide it from yourself to keep the suspense. That’s what I have to do lol. Or try and watch it live if you can
Yeah 28 U.S Marines.
People complain about Hbox play style but he is literally facing a character that hard counters puff. Like Fox beats puff. Without doubt. If my character is predicted to lose against another, I'd do anything it takes to win.
The issue is that everyone uses the same damn characters “I think Im going to main Fox or Falco” people should train with other characters that can beat hbox jiggly puff maybe another Jigglypuff or even peach...its just its the same character matchups constantly but the top players dont use fox look at hbox or armada
Plup was rocking with sheik then major disappoint with fox vs puff....why plup why
I don't think he was confident in his character choice
HBox game 2 took 46 seconds LOL no wonder this 14minutes
Doesn't the guy in the crowd shouting "let's go Justin" know what happens tob people called Justin when you shout that
Am I only one of the few people that admires HBox (even though I am a fan of Axe)?
Hbox wins from winner's side? I miss Armada already
Kinda weird, like armada countered hbox, leffen countered armada, and hbox countered leffen
Hbox is so great, continue playing. Everyone thought 20XX was 1v1 fox, but is actually going to be 1v1 puffs just resting
13:52 TOTALLY DISRESPECT, HBOX dont use his rest xd
Good melee actually, go hbox
*See the like/dislike ratio*
Well apparently HungryBox won.😐
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Y’all gotta stop casting hate on hbox when the game allows his playstyle to be completely viable. Obviously he’s going to utilize boring-play to his advantage, it’s what any dedicated pro player would do if they truly want to win.
P.S. Referring to people hating hbox over his “playstyle.” Idk anything about him irl.
I wanted Plup to win, but probs to Hbox for winning his first major this year
Pretty damn sure HBox wouldn't even be able to make it to top 50 if rest didn't exist.
just a couple grabs
gotta respect plup he did amazing. hbox put up a fight and won overall this was a good tourney
HBox is the Mayweather on meleee
Sad times
Dude I don't even dislike Hbox, puff is just so god damn broken...like no disrespect to Hbox but seriously do you guys even have a clue how much harder plup's game was from an input perspective?? People really try to act like fox is more broken, but that shit is HARD, meanwhile puff takes a nap on you after one upthrow and you just die immediately.
I’m a little late on this response but how long have you been in the melee community? Pressing buttons and being technical isn’t what the game is about. Had and SilentWolf are two of the most technical players out there and they consistently lose to most of the top 20. It’s not about inputs. It’s about spacing and adaptability.
Hax* my apologies. Also you should go watch Hax’s matches if you haven’t already. They’re really fun to watch
@@SaturnSnapple I've been here since launch day, 2001, and yeah I know Hax money, there's a reason I still use pink falcon. And I know it's more than inputs, what I mean to say is I hate seeing incredibly talented players like plup (who also has God-tier spacing, a la samus/shiek) lose to a wall of back airs, grab-proof crouching, and insta-kills
Holy shit hbox is good at this fucking game
Pulp WAS MOVING MANNN
Fox Puff
Yay
I hate hbox finals because there is no heart, momentum, and enthusiasm I see with any other matchup. I do not play videogames to win; I play videogames to flex and if I am watching someone play videogames I want that flex.
The bands tho
Pretty sure hbox could destroy all his detractors in the comments without throwing out a single back air or camping them lol there’s levels to this shit fellas
I love all the Hbox haters when Fox is literally the strongest character in melee AND Jigglypuff is such a light & floaty character that it's not even funny.
He's top tier but has faults. Fox isn't even that dominant in this game tbh. Unlike Bayo and Metaknight in Sm4sh and brawl. Tiers don't even matters at top level, it's the player.
Spoken like someone who doesn't actually play nor understand the game. You must be a member of the hfam
@@laughingocelot2097 nope. I main fox and Falco and I despise hbox. You can't be more wrong.
i think he was talking 2 quintin king
Global, I believe ocelots comment was not directed towards you. Also yah I agree with what you said about it being the player and not the character when it comes to the top level in melee. That’s exactly why I don’t despise Hbox myself. He’s at the top because he’s so good at catching his opponent off guard and capitalizing on every single mistake. GG Hbox
Good job hommie♡
Well that was a sour ending
I hate plup too so, it's not so bad that hbox won
Why do you hate plup?
@@raymariopokenic1561 his playstyle is entertaining but he's always salty and he lacks sportsmanship sometimes (IMO)
@@telegangst3r Damn do you even know who Plup is?
Hate seems like too strong of an emotion given the reasons you listed.
@@telegangst3r dude he usually smiles he is never salty
I feel like the Hbox fans crying about the haters are starting to get more vocal than the haters themselves. Like, I'm a Hbox fan, but these fans that are wishing death upon those who hate HBox should kinda chill too. By no means do I think that the haters who find any way possible to hate Hbox are in the right either, but cmon as a community we should know way better (and no, melee is not dead because of Hbox, people been crying about that for over a year, and it's clearly not the case, funny meme at this point though).
Mad respect to all competitors and good shit to TBH8 and its staff, great tournament.
:/
The sets between Mango, Hbox, and Plup were pretty boring and that sucks.
thriving off the salt from people complaining about hbox winning lmao
Stephen Zhu YOO HOW IT BEEN
Marisa Nya you are toxic
Marisa Nya first of all you are wrong, all he is doing is making a joke. secondly, to argue that someone minding their own business is toxic, is toxic itself. finally, you have an anime profile picture so your opinion does not count.
Fuuuuuuck.
Everyone's thoughts when watching this on stream.
@@Pan_Z not my thoughts
Mr. L wow I dont even have to say L you already have one
@@westong6819 🤔
Mr. L 🚮🚮🚮
My boy :(
Hbox played so good. Hard to beat.
GG's Hellbox!!!
Hbox dropped ONE game at a super major! Let that sink in h8ers. When has mango ever done that huh? HGOD is the true GOAT not that bum hobo
Boy you missing the greatest player of all time ppmd.
@@B1llthech1ck5n you mentioned mango not doing anything like that but can I mention both his evo wins, pretty sure 2013 he only lost a few games or better
There both good players everyone argues way too much. Cant we just respect both of their skill sets?
@@B1llthech1ck5n what are you on about I love watching hbox I think he's really clutch and that's what makes it fun I'm just saying I remember mango doing something similar
I don't care if hbox wins a super major blindfolded... mang0 the GOAT
HBox, good with puff and only puff. Any other pick and he's not making it past quarter. Ultimate crutch character. It's like getting good with a gun and taking the gun to a knife fight. Legal, but shitty. Such an underwhelming play style. Nothing exciting about upthrow into rest or jab reset into rest or rest period. How do you get hype about that?
I like turtles
why allways hbox................................ god damn. isn't there only one player who can really beat this guy fine.
Armada ;-;
Hbox should quit next
GG Hbox, congrats.
Let's gooo!
I hate melee youtube comments
Yeah they're only funny when Chudat wins ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Plup did a LOT better than Mango but still wasn't enough. darn
100% sick of hbox
LET'S GO H-BOX!!!
HBox gets one random grab into rest and it means an instant death and people be like "HBox is CLUTCH!"
Quick question: How is that even remotely different from Fox with his grab into up air? I'm genuinely curious xD
Mm yes I needed salt for my fries
not easy grabbing a balloon thats in the air 24/7...
remotely? up throw up air doesn't kill at 0. remotely.
You don’t even have to get uthrow uair, you can kill with usmash, laser camp and force her to approach and kill her there. It’s all about spacing and how you approach. Also single hit uairs are very important, prevents hbox from negating puff’s weaknesses with sdi
puff carries hbox to another supermajor win! wow! nice!
reminder to turn off hbox grand finals streams, and dislike hbox videos
do not support puff
I don't like either, But glad Hbox won.
xD man all these salty Hbox h8ters xD wow they're the worst right guys?? ~ 90% of comments
Rest are like "nice try Plup" ... lmfao
😯
Lets gooo HBOOOXXXXX!!!
Poor plup
I like depressed box better
Blunt Trauma that’s pretty fucked up
Blunt Trauma You want someone to be *depressed* just because they are winning in a video game and your favorite players aren't good enough? Seek help.
SeightJam SeightJam rephrase your comment plz. I don’t fully understand. Hungry Box is my least favorite professional player, but he’s a great guy playing my favorite game and making a living doing it. I just wouldn’t wish depression on anyone.
Judging from the duration of the video and the fact is hbox is on winners side, im not gonna waste 14 min of my life watching this.
Ggs