Brian Windhorst believes the Myles Turner offensive foul was the CORRECT CALL 👀 | SC with SVP
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- Brian Windhorst joins Scott Van Pelt on SportsCenter to react to the New York Knicks' controversial Game 1 win over the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference Semifinals of the 2024 NBA Playoffs.
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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! To call that a kick ball…. Ok they can miss a call, but then to call the moving screen RIGHT AFTER….. you have to let that go in that situation….. take into account the questionable kick ball and that whistle shouldn’t have even been in his mouth! They don’t call that a moving screen all game than call it when that call decides who wins and who loses?!! Absolutely pathetic by these refs. I don’t even like either team, but hate seeing the refs decide the game. Trash.
major problem the NBA has yet to address
DO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND SELLING MEANS HE'S FLOPPING
I thought flopping is to be stopped
Nesmith flopped on the play before and got away with it. So DDV did the same thing because he was mad that Nesmith got away with it
Windy also chose New York in 6 so of course he thinks it’s the right call lmao
No one is going to talk about the Moving screen DiVincenzo used on Nesmith on the kicked ball play? 😂 What a joke.
Idk I’ve seen a screen like that a million times and it never gets called
If it's Indy, it gets called. If it's the Knicks, it doesn't.
Same thing happened in the 76ers series. For some odd reason The Knicks are getting a ton of good fortune there way. I wonder why!
They called one in this same game against Divencenzo what are you talking about? The same game you're commenting about disproves your argument lol
@@rupertpupkin2660 So cap We werent getting calls in the sixers series you just on dik because the knicks getting media coverage now that brunson cant be ignored.
But it was called with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter against the knicks so whats the complaint? they were consistant with it...isn't that what we ask of the refs?
NBA media propaganda starting already lol
Stop it, every team sets those screens.
Sure, by the letter of the law, its the correct call. But in the final seconds of a playoff game, you should be letting the players decide the game. Refs should have given the Pacers the benefit of the doubt anyway after the refs completely robbed them with that nonexistent kicked ball call right beforehand, which resulted in a 5 point swing
Shut up! You're just mad that the pacers lost.
By your reasoning, the Knicks should be able to do what they want, because you want the players to determine the game, regardless of what the rules are.
By definition a moving screen. Soft call for the playoffs
By definition also a flop on Dante but I guess that offensive foul isn't called anymore, sort of like a moving screen or a steal that instead gets called a kick ball or 2 fouls on Maxey before giving the Knicks 3 games now out of 7b in the playoffs... it's embarrassing, the wabt a Knicks Celtics series so bad and the Knicks would get absolutely torched in that. Did you see how Denver game went tonight? If Brunson was playing then half of the Minnesota team would have fouled out in the first half!
Not a moving screen, they called it an illegal one because he didn’t give DiVincenzo an opportunity to avoid contact whi,e he was moving. Not sure about that. It was a flop.
Lol won't be a soft call when it's the play that determines whether or not your team wins or not. The refs tried to be very consistent with this game I'm ok with that call. You don't want the call don't make the wrong play. Turner talking about it's the playoffs players should determine the outcome is total bs. I hope he keeps that same energy when he's in another close game and the Knicks mess up and the refs "don't make the call" because as you know it's the playoffs let it go. Let's see if he feels the same way. If they were not making those calls the entire game and suddenly decided to call it then then that's a issue but they were legit pretty consistent with their calls.
@@b2284 keep crying bozo, you’re mad your team is in Cancun. If you’re not playing STFU and watch greatness 🤡🤡
Refs in other series need to take notes from game 2 of Nuggets & Timberwolves. Let the players play unless it’s egregious.
Lmao the refs in that game let the Nuggets get away with several things that should've been techs
human error never ceases to amaze
Bulls^&t call
Turner is right. That is NOT a violation that should have been called. A) the contact and movement were minimal B) Divencenzo flopped, and C) making this call would immediately affect the outcome of the game. Use some fcking discretion refs!
Didn't they used to call techs for flopping? If they were to call that, then the Knicks should have gotten a tech for flopping.
But you wanted a foul on Brunson when yall said he was grabbing Maxey jersey?
@@doublecell966 who is “you” and “y’all”?
They called the same foul on the knicks with 2 minutes the go in the 4th its not like that was the first time it was called...Blame your team for leaving it in the refs hands instead of blaming the constant disappearing of haliburton late game
@Sam-db4mr I'm talking in general but take however you want to.
3:08 Myles Turner just ran into DiVincenzo at full speed and body bumped him with his forearms, which he used to protect his family jewels from smashing into Donte's body, which would have been very painful collision. This was premeditated because Turner knew it was going to be a violent collision and protected his groin area.
This is similar to a person driving a car too fast when the light is red and you hit the brakes too late, causing you to rear end the car in front of you. In this case, DiVincenzo got rear ended by Turner. If Turner had not placed his arms in front of him, he might have suffered a serious groin injury that could have caused him to miss the entire series.
Weak aZz call. Pacers in 6
Your tears will be delicious in Cancun
What pisses me off is where are this kind of calls when the warriors are playing? They have been getting away with moving screen for years.
They made that same call on Donte earlier in the quarter in a big spot and gave the ball back to the Pacers. At least that was consistent
This is the thing people are missing. Not to mention that Nesmith FLOPPED earlier and got away with it so DDV did the same thing
I’m glad u saw it, I feel like the only one! Calls get botched on both sides!
Just embarrassing m flopping has to stop. Refs quick whistle on sixers now indy, pathetic
But then Jamal Murray got mugged to the point that he gave the refs the money sign and the a heading pad. Just insane the difference between the two games. They looked like different leagues, when the hell did NYC become a bunch of floppers? They used to be tough
@b2284 DDV flopped once and now they're floppers?!?! Gtfo. Nesmith flopped the play b4 and got away with it and that made DDV mad so he played their game!
No kicked ball & no moving screen. Thanks Refs for giving me even less faith in the NBA than I already had - and I don't even have a dog or even a favorite in this fight. NBA just keeps shooting itself in the foot with endings like that.
The refs are out of control
To be honest it was more of a flop than a moving screen. When they review moving screens they should call the flops. It's likely that the refs just had a bad night, but it's hard not to be a conspiracy theorist with this call, the Nesmith phantom kick ball that would've been a fast break, the Haliburton steal and incorrect foul call that would've been a fast break, and the Brunson foul on Turner that was overturned... all of which were at pivotal moments in the game.
We don't care if Windy thinks it was an offensive foul tf
We don't. We only care what the true professionals decided after a thorough investigation.
Good thing no one cares what Windy says
Wow what a rigged win for the Knicks, missed an obvious call and then made an incorrect call... RIGGED!!!
Take that L...😮😅😅😊
lol, The Pacers were sloppy with the ball down the stretch. They had multiple opportunities.
How was it rigged? There were bad calls on both sides. Are you really that dense?
All four teams are still playing in the two Gardens. Epic!
43 bad calls is what I saw!!!
Cue the conspiracy theorists saying the game was rigged. No, it wasn't rigged. Pacers defense collapsed, they stopped hitting 3s, Haliburton was terrible, and they couldn't stop Brunson. Momentum plays are only momentum plays if you can't stop them.
The illegal screen was absolutely a correct call, they don’t call it all the time they just chose to do it there. Now the kick ball that’s a different story, that would’ve been a fast real for the Pacers and probably would’ve changed the outcome of the game. I’m a Knicks fan
In real time it looked like a kicked ball...Honest mistake... we have the benefit of watching a replay in slow motion after the fact the refs didn't
The kick ball was the right call too huh 😂
No it wasn't bruh 😂😂
@@captainsimp8864 clearly you didn't get the sarcasm
I mean no one can stay in front of him if they’re calling everything
I find it amazing that whenever this KNICKS’ team finally get calls, good or bad to go their way, it’s “OOOOOOO MY GOD!!! REFS BAD CALL! THE NBA IS RIGGED!!!!!!!” But you have nearly all the superstar/all star-led teams and just better normal teams that went against a bad Knick team(which were A GALAXY SIZED amount more worse than this Knick team), and HISTORICALLY FOR DECADES (like two to three generations worth) got all kinds of calls, yet no one comes out of the wood work to accuse those teams ENOUGH, of getting a rigged system to work for them, against those past Knick teams. It’s just hilarious that the Knicks are finally good enough to get the type of hate, better teams in the past would always get, because they are that good enough to get those type of ref calls; and even a great sign that this Knick team is good enough to compete in the playoffs because: all these snowflakes out here wanna cry “Rigged” now that the refs actually wanna give a good Knick team, the benefits of the doubts, over the other team.
L take. Clearly a Knick’s fan. I dislike both teams but the refs handed that one to the knicks
@@DoyleAKHow did they hand it to the Knicks? Bad calls were on both sides. The kickball is the only legitimate call you can say was bad. Don't even get me started on the moving screen nonsense because they called a moving screen on DDV before and Nesmith flopped and sold the call. Not to mention that the refs made Thibs waste a challenge on a bad call when the ball went off Nembhards foot.
Don't come here with the refs giving the Knicks the game when it was bad on both sides.
@@DoyleAK " Clearly a Knick's fan"
You say that's like it's a bad thing.
I know he’s a journalist but why is windy am authority on a call?
He’s not, they just expect their viewers to be brain dead enough to buy Brian Windhorst’s authority on the legitimacy of a call over their own eyes and ears:
Indiana vs Cleveland would be a financial disaster for the league…
NY vs Boston means they’re all going to Sizzlers…
Those were makeup calls for all the times Brunson gets whacked and held
Yet another reason to play in a big market….. the league benefits from the big markets going deep in the playoffs. They should be ashamed. It’s so obvious too.
Kevin Garnett is laughing, as for the Nesmith call, that was the game...zero respect, bring back Crawford...
The refs actually robbed the Pacers of this win. There was a ruled kicked ball which was a hand deflection which would've led to a fast break lay-up. That soft illegal screen was BS. I wanna to see the Pacers can make a bucket...
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They also robbed the 76ers of as least one if not 2 but all anyone is gonna talkb about Brunson and his steak even though it should have been 3 losses out of the 5 where he scored over 40. Just embarrassing
@@b2284 next time u gon cry tears 😭 and blood...Missed calls on both sides.
Look at Divincenzo’s egregious screen on the phantom kick ball with 55 seconds. I swear the NBA is rigged. Refs straight up robbed this one from the Pacers
@@b2284oh like in Game 3 when Embiid pulled down Mitch's legs, kicked Mitch in the nuts and kicked iHart in the nuts and stayed in the game? And the fact that Embiid shot 21 free throws? Are you going to ignore that?
the fix is in! the NBA wants NY in the WCF
ECF
Losers complain about calls
human era lol, EFC honest mistake no? lmaooo
Lol. Correct call but dont call it in the playoffs at the end of a game. So the people complaining about the knicks getting calls, want the refs to call the game subjectively. No dont call this here and here. Come on stop it. Either you want objectivity or you dont
The Knicks hate is real 😂 ny in 5
I've been trying to figure out. How do people bet on ANY of these games? With the refs and players choosing to sit last minute, how do you place a bet and have any chance of winning?
Gotta give Tim Danagey a call, I bet he still has refs numbers, he prob already knows how the games are going as well. Insane to see the different whistles between the 2 games tonight, looked like 2 entirely different leagues
These refs all year... Smfh. And there's nothing we can do...sad
If you have to question a call then it shouldn't have been called... especially in a playoff game. A moving screen? Wow...
More questionable calls happening at the garden. Pathetic.
I feel for you Pacers fans.
P.S I ain't got no hate towards The Knicks however Myles Turner is right.. the players need to determine the outcome of the game. It appears the NBA is pulling for NY. It happened during the 76ers series & its happening now.
Sketch
Whatever loser
Super sketch. You see that same amount of movement from an offensive player on 90% of screens and it is rarely, if ever, called. To make that call in a deciding possession of a playoff game is just making it obvious.
Again, let’s take the refs off the court at the end of the game! In sports, sometimes you live with the calls!
disgusting. now the Knicks are getting Lakers call now????
going to watch WWE, at least refs there dun pretend to be fair
SVP is the MVP👏👏👏
Laughing at all the conspiracy theorists in the comments 😂
Knicks fan?
😂🤣😭💯
right? all this anger towards the refs and a good call but no anger for Haliburton wiith 6 points? That should be who they blame for this loss.
SVP talkin like he bet on the Pacers to win. Its always about the refs making the call. Pacers didnt make winning plays and the Knicks did. Bam Adebayo sets screens like that all the time (no calls) and the refs review the screen and said Turner didnt let DVo make a move and just rammed him. Stop the whining guys. I wouldnt be surprised if Indy gets a call at their cornfield court as well. Make winning plays down the stretch and Pacers didnt.
I still don’t get all the hate the Knicks get. Do you people even watch basketball or is it all about the comments?
It's a bunch of casuals who watch games only this time of year and don't know ball
Bruh let them play. Players make the game, not referees.
Let's go Knicks!!
Pacers got robbed by the refs
You guys got robbed by haliburton...6 pts? lmao
NBA wants the ratings, they need them, and the Knicks get them. Clearly the 4th quarter calls went to the Knicks. Breathe on Hart and Brunson and it's a foul, mug any Pacer and zilch. That being said, Brunson has been amazing all playoffs, but Knick starters are playing 40+ every game. They will tire out, as Thibs doesn't play his bench at all. Pacers are deeper and can outrun em over the course of the series. But if Brunson pulls this off, they may build a statue of him someday....
Na that was just a pick
The Warriors have been getting away with much worse on moving picks for almost 10 years, on a regular basis.
@@hahamasala right Draymond literally picks people up & screens them across the court 🤣
Everybody bitchin about the calls but you have a bench that outscored the Knicks bench 46-3. You should’ve blown the Knicks team out. The Pacers failed in Game 1, try to do better in Game 2. People complaining about the last 3 minutes of the game but overlook the other 45 minutes. Dana White said it best, “You never leave it in the hands of the judges” and in this case the refs.
46 is an off night for the bench, they will do better next game :D
Can’t tell the difference between a yellow shoe and a hand. Smh.
The refs have to want to get it right to be able to tell the difference. Shades of Tim Donahue.....just saying
It was a flop, pure and simple. Technically a foul but the Knick flopped, zero questions about that.
There's context behind that flop. The play before Nesmith flopped and got away with it. DDV got mad and did it out of spite.
@@Trackstar064life That's some BS. The play before the Pacers trapped Brunson on the sideline and he tried to throw the ball off Haliburton and it bounced back at him. Nesmith never went to the ground or did ANYTHING to try to draw a foul. A flop is a flop No context.
So let the players play and no calls in end of the game, like in the playground! LeBron will win every game then! Just play and stop the cap Mr. Turner!
they re literally talking about what you guys are bitching about..... what about that bs call on josh hart when saikim was going for the layup and got two free free throws? Keep on hating while your t3am is fishing.....alll that matters is that you make your shots when they count...and the knicks do!!..suxers and passers didnt!
Quit crying!!!
Turner also had MOVING HANDS. In football, that would be called "illegal use of the hands" or "illegal touching". IRL, that would also be called "illegal use of the hands". You cannot do that to a stranger because that would be assault and battery to bump someone and knock them down to the ground.
It was all fun and games until they ran into those Timberwolves 😎🤣🤔🙆
ask draymond green!!! its not a Off.foul.
who cares about Indiana anyway
Good flop by Dante
Since when is that LeBron shill's opinion ever matter?
Everybody wants the refs to "not decide" the game,
UNTIL it's a call that benefits THEIR TEAM,
Indy had multiple chances to WIN this game, Haliburton giving you 0 pts in the 4th quarter, your star only 6 points in the total game is why INDY lost...
The KNICKS had no answers for TJ or Pascal, their bench outscored em 42-3, they just made turnovers at the end of the game and it cost them...
You NEVER should count of refs to save you from your mistakes either, especially in a close game...
The KNICKS dont expect calls in INDY so what's the all the complaints about?
And spare me the NBA BIG MARKET rigged excuses, if that were true,
The Lakers, The Clippers BOTH BIG MARKET LA TEAMS would be still in these playoffs over Denver and Minnesota...
Hell, Miami and Chicago would still be here too...
Sometimes the basketball gods of Spaulding & Wilson have other plans for a given team
Common sense offensive foul. #1. Foot obvious moving. Look at Turner's MOVING right foot. #2. Set too close to defender. The offensive player must leave enough space for the defender. Lot of casual fans don't understand the rules of setting a correct screen. #3. Donte was literally called for an offensive illegal screen in the 4th quarter. Are you telling me that Donte shouldn't have been given the offensive illegal screen foul too?
Do yourself a favor. Just stop. Everyone saw what happened with their own 2 eyes. You’re not going to convince objective people that this wasn’t a full send by the refs to give the Knicks a massive advantage at a crucial moments in the game.
@@mosin9349 You fail because you don't know what a screen is. You need to learn what a screen is. Are you telling me that Turner's feet are fully set? Are you telling me that Turner wasn't too close and let enough room? Are you telling me that Donte's illegal screen was illegal but Turner's was legal? Clueless casual fans are too funny that even slow motion clearly shows the 2 mistakes made by Turner (moving foot and too close). Duhhh. Now tell me that the hook grab on Brunson before the inbound pass was perfectly legal too. Haha. What a fool!
turner looks like he's in the matrix.
I ain’t een uh Knicks fan bro and I saw that dude feet wasn’t planted he was movin while settin duh screen he sold duh game I know dat bus ride was sumn crazy 😮😢
Hilburton looked like a g league player out there.
Worse
Mayhaps, and Brunson looked unstoppable.....and the Knicks needed 2 bad calls to barely win. If I was a Knicks fan, I would be very nervous. Basketball = Team sport
bing bong!
Let's go knicks 💪 🙌 👏 💙 🙏
This was embarrassing. Now three games of the Knicks five wins so far involves point blank incorrect calls in the end. Rigged.
What about the Maxey travel in G5 vs Philly? Not even close to point blank incorrect lol, there was a kicked ball right before which was non reviewable when they gave possession to Indiana
You think it's that or you just enjoy whining about the Knicks and pretending it's the calls and not just them winning?
@@robhernandez5520 the league wants the Knicks to win games and they will rig games to make the Knicks win. It isn’t a difficult concept to grasp. Get a grip.
@@yetisk9226 A conspiracy theorist telling me to get a grip lol that's hilarious
@@yetisk9226lmao since when??? Where was this energy when we was a bad team?
Did y’all see the Pacers versus Bucks game how a couple of the Bucks players were bowling the Pacers the Pacers kept their composure. One of the bucks got ejected from the game the Pacers aren’t known to play bullyball and I seen a couple things this evening that made me think they were playing volleyball, I also saw some other dramatic acting, and when Brunson through the basketball and the Tyrese’s chest pretty hard at the end of the game it’s disturbing
Bad call but pretending that was a steal attempt by Nesmith is a joke. He got hit in stride not making a play.
I think the Pacers fans should Stop complaining if Your team is that good it should Never come down to a bad call to win the game. take it like a man.
Just what a knickerbocker fan would say 😂😂😂
Saving this thread for game 2 can't wait to hear you cry
Jokic getting locked up scoring only 16 points🤣🤣😎😎🤔🤔. IS THAT YOUR BEST PLAYER?🤣🤔
Quot crying, all the calls the Knicks dont get, its about time they get a call.
Of course clear moving screen.
That wouldn't have even happened if the refs didn't rig it and called a kick ball that didn't happen
It’s not just this call the whole game just felt rigged as a Brooklyn New Yorker
Nets fan...😮😅😊😊
It was the right call to make stop crying
This is why new Yorkers are hated by all 49 states and the rest of the world. Just talk about the call in your favor. What about the fake kick ball?
That’s just what a Knick fan would say but if it was Indy that had that call you would be complaining goofy
Good call you aint slick Turner!
The Pacers need to Amp up the Pace!!!
And, send the Knicks to Bed.
That pace was on max...😢😮😮😅😊😊
Myles was set
No , he wasnt
No, he wasn’t. Clearly
What were you watching?
Who cares. Indiana choked. They're lucky to be playing in the semis.
How they choked tf ? 😐 it was down to wire goofy
pacers cheated, just as i was starting to forget league fixed
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No it was not the correct call. Man. The Refs did not call the foul on Jalen Brunson when he threw the ball into Tyrese‘s chest super hard that should’ve been a personal or a technical foul end of story go figure
LMAO casual...Thats a legit play in basketball. You don't throw the ball soft so the opposing team can catch it lmao
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The Knicks get a call or two. You don't want the refs to decide it, score more. No 😥😢😩in🏀
Knicks in six.🟠🔵
I’d rather they win without bad calls