3 WAYS to edit Dual Narrowband Astrophotography!

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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    This video covers dual narrowband processing workflows in: Siril & Gimp, DSS & Photoshop, and PixInsight with Narrowband Normalization. Data here: drive.google.com/drive/folder...
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    ==Resources==
    Siril: siril.org
    GIMP: gimp.org
    DSS (latest version): github.com/deepskystacker/DSS...
    Photoshop: www.adobe.com/products/photos...
    PixInsight: pixinsight.com/
    Narrowband Normalization: • New Narrowband Normali...
    How to add the Narrowband Normalization process:
    1. Go to Resources...Updates... Manage Repositories... add this link: www.cosmicphotons.com/pi-modu...
    2. Go to Resources...Updates...Check for updates... and check for updates.
    3. Restart PixInsight and it will now show up under the Processes menu
    ==Contents==
    0:00 Why Dual Narrowband?
    1:37 Desk Tour (FlexiSpot)
    3:51 Siril & GIMP
    21:48 DSS & Photoshop
    36:16 PixInsight & Narrowband Normalization
    This video is sponsored by FlexiSpot.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 141

  • @NebulaPhotos
    @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +8

    Flexispot's Labor Day sale is happening now, where you can get 50% off select items! Use my code NEBULA for an additional $30 off on orders over $500 at bit.ly/nebulaphoto

    • @ridealongwithrandy
      @ridealongwithrandy 9 місяців тому

      I have been using a standup desk for a long time, helps with my back, however, just blew out a lower disc in my back and standing in one spot is not good, kind of a pain late at night shooting stars. Getting a back brace today to try that out.
      Cheers

  • @FPVA71
    @FPVA71 9 місяців тому +7

    Bill's new narrowbandnormalization process is fantastic, thanks heaps for showing us how to use it correctly, great video mate

  • @GeoSilverio2
    @GeoSilverio2 6 місяців тому +2

    Very helpful. Especially all the steps with SIRIL and GIMP
    Thanks so much

  • @michaeljarvis4612
    @michaeljarvis4612 9 місяців тому +1

    Nico, Super useful and timely. Thanks so much.

  • @ryanmichaelhaley
    @ryanmichaelhaley 8 місяців тому +1

    I can’t wait to try these great PI tricks, your results looked great!

  • @erictousignant495
    @erictousignant495 6 місяців тому +1

    Great Video Nico, I just used the Siril-Gimp method on the Horsehead nebula and it worked great. One thing I do differently though is the stars layer. I run the image with the stars through Starnett to get a starless version. I then bring it in as a layer above the stars layer. I then used the “Subtract” mode on the starless layer to get a stars only layer. I make a new layer from visible and then erase the stars and starless layers. I change the stars layers to screen and voila, a stars only layer that can be reduced by playing with the opacity.

  • @gregorybchapman
    @gregorybchapman 8 місяців тому +1

    This is an excellent how-to! Thanks for showing the process. I just got so much more out of sh2-171 that I can't get over it!

  • @jamesdavies3223
    @jamesdavies3223 9 місяців тому +2

    This came at the right time for me. Thank you

  • @vibhavsharma239
    @vibhavsharma239 9 місяців тому +4

    always waiting for your videos,
    really help me is improving my astrophotography skills.
    you explain things very clearly and thats the reason why I choose your videos.
    great work sir.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you! I appreciate it. Glad the videos are helpful.

    • @artiraina5857
      @artiraina5857 9 місяців тому +2

      😊

  • @haythemhamdi3995
    @haythemhamdi3995 9 місяців тому +3

    This video came right in time. Thank you, Nico. Great job as usual.

  • @Si-fp2ij
    @Si-fp2ij 9 місяців тому +3

    Great demonstration of Bill’s new tool Nico! This is a very nice addition to the scripts in PI
    Cheers
    Si

  • @BenillaIC
    @BenillaIC 9 місяців тому +1

    It's almost 1am but I just had to try the Pixinsight workflow on my image after watching this. Brilliant!

  • @Freakwave26
    @Freakwave26 9 місяців тому +2

    As someone who recently started using an L-enhance Filter, this was super helpful!

  • @anotherastrochannel2173
    @anotherastrochannel2173 9 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for covering Narrowband Normalization Nico!!! Good job buddy!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for making it Bill! It’s a great idea and something much needed in PI for us narrowband addicts! 😀

  • @bart9625
    @bart9625 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the Siril & Gimp editing. It took my image to a new level. Thank u Nico.

  • @lichasvocke8642
    @lichasvocke8642 9 місяців тому +4

    Very nice and Detailed Tutorial. Intresting to see that my workflow is actually not far from yours, but I definately can improve. Thanks Nico!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +3

      Thanks! Which software do you use?

    • @lichasvocke8642
      @lichasvocke8642 9 місяців тому +2

      DSS, Photoshop and a bit Siril

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +2

      Nice combo! The new DSS (v.5) is super-fast like Siril for stacking.

  • @gusgrubba
    @gusgrubba 9 місяців тому +3

    I never took the time to *really* learn Pixinsight. I’ve watched countless tutorials, even paid ones but I never had the patience to deal with its UX. I use WBPP for the stacking/integration and (TIFF 32-bit) jump to Photoshop where I’m comfortable. What this video shows me is that PI is indeed just a step up from punch cards :P Good grief. Thanks for an excellent tutorial on everything else (but PI.)

  • @DeepSpaceAstro
    @DeepSpaceAstro 9 місяців тому +4

    Love seeing the different ways to process narrowband with Siril. As always, nice video Nico!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I appreciate it.

    • @theHDRflightdeck
      @theHDRflightdeck 7 місяців тому

      Do you also have a similar video Rich with Siril?

  • @turbo80lxcoupe
    @turbo80lxcoupe 9 місяців тому +1

    Love these image processing videos. Im finding them to be a huge help for being a beginner

  • @EvenTheDogAgrees
    @EvenTheDogAgrees 9 місяців тому +1

    Three ways to edit dual narrowband astrophotography, an hour long video. And only one way that applies to a Linux user like me. Yay! I'll be done in about 20 minutes then! 😁
    In all seriousness though, thanks for including a full FOSS workflow so that people who value FOSS software also get some decent tutorials that allow them to participate in the hobby. I loved your previous Siril/Gimp workflow for stacking DSLR shots of DSOs, and still use it to this day.

  • @JamesTiff
    @JamesTiff 9 місяців тому +1

    This is great.. Classic Nico is back, I have to confess I have been a bit bored with all the gear review content but this is what you do best! (not that your review process isn't the best but unless buying I don't really care for it) Amazing data with such little integration time and i will be trying these processes

  • @enbi1352
    @enbi1352 9 місяців тому +2

    Nico, this one was a great tutorial

  • @AstroDanno
    @AstroDanno 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this video, Nico! This will give me something new to try in Photoshop this week.

  • @michaelsachgau2970
    @michaelsachgau2970 8 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic tutorial! Thank you, Nico! I’m just starting with dual narrowband OSC imaging (Optolong L Enhance, ASI533MC Pro) and had no idea how to process the data. Now I know 😉

  • @cjmenagh882
    @cjmenagh882 9 місяців тому +1

    As always a great video, well done with lots of tips and tricks. Tried this workflow on a recent Bubble/Lobster Claw Nebulae image and was very pleased with results. Well done and thanks.

  • @robb7342
    @robb7342 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video Nico, great to see the 3 different applications as everyone has their own approach. Also good point about the Oiii blending being somewhat limited due to the amount data.

  • @dumpydalekobservatory
    @dumpydalekobservatory 9 місяців тому +3

    Hi Nico brilliant video I've really learnt a lot watching this as I only use SIRIL DSS & Photoshop I haven't moved to Pixinsight simply due to my old PC not having the resources. Thanks again for your hard work & uploading this great video, clear skies!!

  • @dom77wski
    @dom77wski 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very much! Amazing video!

  • @nullpointerworks4036
    @nullpointerworks4036 8 місяців тому +1

    Great to see a quick tutorial/workflow with Siril. I'm on a Linux machine nowadays and I'm looking for alternatives to Photoshop, DSS and Registax.

  • @stevenickolls8016
    @stevenickolls8016 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing, a very informative tutorial. 👍 As someone just venturing into taking narrowband Ha and OIII to process using GIMP as HOO images I feel daunted by the steep learning slope I've come too. Should you ever make a future video on producing HOO images from narrowband data in GIMP I and likely many others would be very grateful. Good luck with your channel.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi Steve, One way to do it is the way I show here. (It's my favorite method, but of course there are many way). To sum it up: Just layer in your registered Ha and OIII stacks and colorize them to taste, screen blending the OIII on top of the Ha.

  • @mistaskate8715
    @mistaskate8715 9 місяців тому +2

    Awesome! Would love to see a comparisson of the three results if you felt that there was differences in what you could do in the different programs!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому +1

      I know the thumbnail suggests a comparison. Maybe a mistake, as my goal was to show how to get to a similar result in each of the programs, but making them 'match' would just be testing the skill of the processor (me), and I could make them match exactly. So I decided not to include it. I'd encourage people to pick the workflow they enjoy the most. Any of these combinations can produce top-tier results with practice.

    • @mistaskate8715
      @mistaskate8715 8 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos I understand the problem with it. I did it myself by screenshoting though, just because i wanted to see, even though the possible pure differences in what you did in each postprocess :) still worthwhile seeing imo, but i do inderstand why you didn't include it!

  • @JohdagM
    @JohdagM 8 місяців тому +1

    I just received my dual band filter today, and also today discovered this video. Coincidence? Thank you!!

  • @ansarisg
    @ansarisg 8 місяців тому +1

    Love this video. Gives me a lot of insight about what I have been doing wrong! Which image would you prefer Nico? I kind of like the PixInsight one the best.

  • @AstroFremen
    @AstroFremen 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for. For some frustrating reason Siril keeps failing the extract HaOiii script on my latest attempts with the veil Nebula, so I'm going to try combining your workflows for DSS and GIMP. Hopefully now I'll get those pretty blues to come out!

  • @koppervik1
    @koppervik1 7 місяців тому +1

    Another very useful video! I am a DSS/Photoshop user, and started to explore GHS in SiriL. The trick of colorizing the mono Ha and OIII was new to me and something I have to try out. My last couple of projects has a good mix of Ha and dust, like the Sh2-126 Geco nebula, and I find it very difficult to stretch in a way that keep the separation between the dust and the Ha. Any tips here very much appreciated 😃
    Thanks Nico! 😊👍🏻

  • @karlrudin7946
    @karlrudin7946 4 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @mreddick786
    @mreddick786 8 місяців тому +1

    I have been wanting to see how to do this ever since I sold my dslr and have been trying to figure out if I want mono or OSC. Thank you Thank you Thank you

  • @thomaszefo3923
    @thomaszefo3923 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Nico!! I have never been satisified with my stars result - I will definitely be trying your method. BTW - I noticed you did not use a pedestal value in WBPP. Any reason why? Thanks again...

  • @vijaysutar9822
    @vijaysutar9822 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video, made me student again.learn lot of new things.
    Would like to know configuration of your pc.it was responding very fast.

  • @Sebastian-zf9ok
    @Sebastian-zf9ok 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Thanks a lot! Is there also a way to do an unlinked stretch using GHS Script?

  • @Chorge1972
    @Chorge1972 6 місяців тому +1

    Superb

  • @lucodomares5067
    @lucodomares5067 Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @mihajlofrancic9021
    @mihajlofrancic9021 9 місяців тому +2

    Great video, I wasn't aware that siril's script for extracting OIII and Ha does something other than just splitting R and G channels.
    I wonder if the snr is better with siril's script, I find in my case that blue channel is just way too noisy to be combined with green channel (at least in my case with a dslr).
    Another testing idea when it gets cloudy!
    Thank you!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      They use some fancy math (see the note mid-way down this page): siril.readthedocs.io/en/latest/processing/extraction.html I often just use the green channel too, but I do think Siril's way of doing it is likely superior. Of course, it may depend on light pollution level, so testing is great idea!

  • @stevenpeng5692
    @stevenpeng5692 8 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed this video and it helped my image tremendously! Thank you for the great job putting this together. The only thing I would curious is, why my Siril takes so long to finish (about 2.5hrs) - my raw capture consists of 90 x 60s on Celestron SE8 scope with Hyperstar 4.

  • @briankotak403
    @briankotak403 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you, thank you thank you Nico! I’ve been struggling with PI and narrowband processing of my OSC and L-Extreme images. I still have to update my PI to the new version. Is the narrowband normalization included in the new version of PI or is that a separate process to add from Bill?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      It’s separate. Unfortunately some 3rd party stuff like Starnet are apparently broken in the newest version of PI while Bill’s process only works in the latest version. Here are the instructions to install it:
      1. Go to Resources -> Updates-> Manage Repositories... add this link: www.cosmicphotons.com/pi-modules/narrowbandnormalization/
      2. Go to Resources -> Updates-> Check for updates... and check for updates.
      3. Restart PixInsight and it should be there

  • @F4H33M97
    @F4H33M97 6 місяців тому

    I see you were holding on an Svbony filter at the beginning. If by any chance it was the SV220, how do you rate this filter (note I have a full spectrum A7iii and use a camera lens with a max filter thread of approx 67mm, min aperture of f2.8)? I'm looking at maybe getting this, but its close between the zwo dual band filter and the SV220.

  • @paulbenoit249
    @paulbenoit249 8 місяців тому +1

    Hey Nico, great video as always. Any reason why, on the 1st scenario (Siril), you do not create a star mask under the Starnet "plug in" to isolate the starts instead of getting the stars from the HOO image? Would have bene great to get your conclusion opinion comparing the results of hte 3 versions.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому +1

      It depends on the image, but typically I don't use a 'stars only' image as I find the blend is more seamless by not doing that. So just my personal preference.

  • @brisguyfoo5687
    @brisguyfoo5687 8 місяців тому

    I am just starting with dual narrowband (l-enhance), and I have been using photo metric color calibration in Siril to set the palette. Wondering why you use what seems like a much more difficult process that could deviate from the ‘real’ colors.

  • @rickwilliamsphotography
    @rickwilliamsphotography 6 місяців тому +1

    Really great video, Nico. As a relative newcomer, I believe I have now found my Dual Narrowband workflow for PixInsight. When watching, I did question why no DBE. I am currently working on a 2-pane mosaic of the Soul Nebula and I have 12 hours of date for each pane, so I am ready to start my processing.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  6 місяців тому +1

      I simply forgot to DBE. I should have as it would have made things easier.

    • @rickwilliamsphotography
      @rickwilliamsphotography 6 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos do you have any thoughts to share on Automatic BE versus Dynamic?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, with an image like this one (wide field, lots of nebulosity) I’d probably start with ABE and only use DBE if needed. I wouldn’t use the defaults in ABE for a photo like this one. The most important thing is to change the function degree from 4 to 2 so that the background model doesn’t overfit. A function degree of 2 or even 1 will create a nice smooth background model which is usually what we want when dealing with fairly linear gradients. But I’d likely also increase the sample size and spacing (30:30 over the defaults of 10:10?), and I like starting with a ‘Division’ extraction rather than the standard ‘Subtraction’ which is only necessary for tough cases.

    • @rickwilliamsphotography
      @rickwilliamsphotography 6 місяців тому

      One more question, if I might.........no color calibration used? Spectrophotometric Color Calibration?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  6 місяців тому +1

      I don’t use color calibration when I shoot with a narrowband filter(s) because I know that I’m going to alter the colors to my taste anyways. I know that they have a ‘narrowband’ routine in there, but it’s not for me. I do use photometric or spectrophotometric calibration when I shoot broadband (OSC or LRGB).

  • @nikaxstrophotography
    @nikaxstrophotography 9 місяців тому +1

    You missed Astropixel Processor when it comes to channel separation which also does this easier than all these methods but I love the workflow you used in pixinsight.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, this wasn’t exhaustive. These are only the three I’ve picked to really learn. Glad to here APP has a good way to do it 👍

  • @davidstearn1342
    @davidstearn1342 5 місяців тому

    Why did you not use HA as the lightness mode in the NB Normalization script?
    Also using RGB stars and merging them using Bill’s merge RGB stars to Narrowband scripts can provide a more natural look.

  • @Hioctane321
    @Hioctane321 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi Nico (or anyone on this channel), I'm new to this great hobby, I'm finding these tutorials very useful. I have a question regarding white balance using the Ha pass filter? Should I use a custom WB grey card while using the filter, or should I just use the base sunshine white balance?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  7 місяців тому +1

      For daytime shooting, I would suggest using the grey card to get close to correct color balance. For astrophotography, shoot Raw and it doesn't matter, I leave mine on daylight WB.

    • @Hioctane321
      @Hioctane321 7 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos Thanks, I also noticed that I had to add an extra second to my exposure (using NPF rule) while using the Ha pass filter; otherwise, I would get a failed Siril output. Is that normal?

  • @jackbernstein3029
    @jackbernstein3029 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks. Just in time to use Bill’s process for the SNR challenge. A very minor aside. In his UA-cam video on this new offering, Bill really stressed that, as opposed to his other scripts, this is a Pixinsight Process and not a script. I am not experienced enough to state all the differences but it is found in the Process area and not under scripts.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      Yes, sorry for the error there. I’m out-of-habit with the PI-speak.

    • @jackbernstein3029
      @jackbernstein3029 9 місяців тому

      🙂@NebulaPhotos Lets see how well I do with the Cygnus loop using your technique. I did notice that you didn't use BlurXterminator or NoiseXterminator. On my image, using BlurXterminator shrinks the stars to square pixels and, if I use it, it will be on the loop alone. I might also try HDR Multiscale Transform to sharpen it up.ua-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f642.png

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      @@jackbernstein3029 You can definitely add extra steps to this process. I tried to keep these workflows to just the essentials. For wide-field like this, I don't think BlurX or NoiseX or HDR multiscale will add much. If you are more close-in, I would definitely give those all a try.

    • @daphnes3635
      @daphnes3635 8 місяців тому

      I've downloaded the trial version of this version of pixinsight only to find out that the script is missing entirely from either processes or scripts :(

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому +1

      @@daphnes3635 sorry I meant to show installation of the process, but forgot. Here are instructions:
      1. Go to Resources -> Updates-> Manage Repositories... add this link: www.cosmicphotons.com/pi-modules/narrowbandnormalization/
      2. Go to Resources -> Updates-> Check for updates... and check for updates.
      3. Restart PixInsight and it should be there

  • @user-lt9py2pu6u
    @user-lt9py2pu6u 9 місяців тому +2

    Hi Nico. I have just started using a OSC camera (have been narrow band imaging with filters and mono for three years) so found this really interesting. Would this work with images captured using a tri- band filter specifically the L-eNhance. Also, I am currently using DSS with Affinity Photo for processing, would I be correct in assuming this would work in more or less the same way as DSS + Photo Shop?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +1

      Yes, and yes. I believe the L-eNhance is dual band, but this workflow would work the same for tri-band or quad-band filters and OSC. And yes, anything I show in PS should follow over to Affinity - things just might be in slightly different places.

    • @user-lt9py2pu6u
      @user-lt9py2pu6u 9 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos Thank you Nico for the answers.

  • @simoneplances6265
    @simoneplances6265 7 місяців тому +1

    as always, brilliant content, brilliant quality. One question: how can I do this with multi sessions data? i.e. I'm imaging the Soul Nebula across multiple nights (when the weather gods allow) and would really like to use this technique. I'm using Siril and GIMP. Thanks for the help!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  7 місяців тому +1

      This add-on to Siril called Sirilic helps a lot with that: siril.org/docs/sirilic/ I hope to do a tutorial on it soon.

    • @simoneplances6265
      @simoneplances6265 7 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotosso I can run any Siril script via Sirilic? I have used only once so far for the normal osc-preprocessing

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  7 місяців тому +1

      @@simoneplances6265 Yes, it's just a way to run the scripts with more options - basically a user interface for running the pre-processing scripts

    • @simoneplances6265
      @simoneplances6265 7 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotosyou are a legend! Thank you so much for the help and for all the videos, please keep them coming, I learn so much from you!

  • @StitchTheOtter
    @StitchTheOtter 8 місяців тому

    I would be interested in a video about Ultra-narrowband imaging (3nm) with a large achromat (for example 4") plus flattener, compared to an Apochromat and Newton with around the same opening and focal length. Not dual narrowband, just normal SHO. In theory a achromat should perform almost the same as an Apochromat with such narrow filters.

  • @andrewstott7880
    @andrewstott7880 8 місяців тому

    Pixinsight question...I noticed you didn't do Dynamic Background Extraction. Are you able to do that as a process of WBPP or did you feel the images did not need background extraction? I didn't see any gradients in your image so not sure how you got to that point. Taken at darksight?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому

      I just forgot! But yes taken at a dark site near zenith, but I still wish I had remembered to do background extraction. I think I may have mentioned I forgot when I was messing around with the OIII a bit too much.

  • @paulonobrega3557
    @paulonobrega3557 2 дні тому

    hey again, finally got my Sv220 and was able to do 3 nights of shooting the same target. Do you know if Sirilic script Duo Ha/Oiii would do the equivalent you show here in Siril, but for multiple nights? I usually follow your tutorials using Siril and Photoshop, but not sure if handling multiples nights would need extra steps. thanks

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 дні тому +1

      Yep, should work the same with Sirilic. Let me know if not

  • @sevengrey2408
    @sevengrey2408 9 місяців тому

    would the process be similar in Affinity photo as you describe for Photoshop? could you use Siril for the stack and script to assign color channels then do all other color processing in Affinity? thx in advance

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      Yes, definitely. My process in Photoshop/GIMP/Affinity Photo is the same. The only thing that changes is the UI and terminology. If you have any issue translating PS to Affinity, let me know. I do have it, just don’t use it since I’m too used to Photoshop.

  • @christoschatzimanolis6456
    @christoschatzimanolis6456 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi Nico! Is it possible to do a tutorial on how to install starnet plug in into PI on a Mac? I can't get it to work and it is really frustrating.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      You're in luck! I already have a tutorial up on that: ua-cam.com/video/gyOa8eNIVlk/v-deo.html MacOS (Intel) starts at 18:55 and MacOS (Apple Silicon) starts at 27:43

    • @christoschatzimanolis6456
      @christoschatzimanolis6456 9 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos Thank you! I've been trying to install that for a week with no success until now

  • @PantherBlitz
    @PantherBlitz 9 місяців тому

    Those desks look like the ones we installed in one of our buildings at work. I wonder if those are FlexiSpots?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      Yep, FlexiSpot sponsored the video :)

  • @paulonobrega3557
    @paulonobrega3557 20 днів тому

    Hey, I'm very new at this and just got a svbony 503 and I also got a sv220. My zone is maybe between a bortle 4 and 5. My question is: can I use the filter to basically shoot every DSO (to block most of light pollution) or should I just use it with emission nebulas?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  19 днів тому +1

      Just emission nebulae*
      *but this includes extra-galactic emission nebulae. For example, M33 and many other galaxies can look cool through a dual narrowband filter because they are full of small pockets of emission nebulae.

    • @paulonobrega3557
      @paulonobrega3557 19 днів тому

      @@NebulaPhotos Many thanks for your reply. I'm new here and watching your videos daily:) Love the way you make things look simple. Congratulations for your great great job :)

  • @geopolska
    @geopolska 9 місяців тому +2

    Hi,
    will this process, or rather set of processess be applied to data gathered using quad filters? Also, I have ever used SiriL to stack data, DSS is my chosen tool, but should I try? Is it worth to giving up DSS? Thanks in advance. I know you presented DSS but I wanted to know which one is better in your honest opinion.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      Yes, exact same with a quad filter! DSS works fine for stacking, but I would suggest learning Siril for some of the other tools like Background Extraction, Color Calibration, and all the Stretching tools. You can stack in DSS and then bring your stacked TIFF file right into Siril and then finish in Photoshop or GIMP.

    • @geopolska
      @geopolska 9 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos no no, I did say I use SiriL for all of those thingies, I only asked if stacking is better on that platform or I should stick to DSS.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому +1

      @@geopolska ah I did a video on that. Didn’t notice a huge difference in quality between Siril and DSS stacks, but for this kind of thing Siril wins in my book due to the slick ExtractHaOIII script

    • @robinflick5516
      @robinflick5516 9 місяців тому +2

      I prefer DSS over Siril for stacking because the workflow is much easier for stacking multiple nights that have their own calibration frames. Siril uses more steps for that and needs a lot of temporary drive space and doesn't delete temporary files. But then I continue in Siril for example for background extraction, stretching, starnet, pixelmath etc. For that Siril is amazing.

  • @drmedsteht4134
    @drmedsteht4134 7 місяців тому

    How is your unlinked strech in Pixinsight not green when using an OSC camera? This is always the case for me and I thought this was normal.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  7 місяців тому

      It is the linked stretch (default) that is green. An unlinked stretch should show normal colors because you are allowing the autostretch to color balance - apply different amounts of stretch to the red, green and blue channels to normalize them. Open screen transfer function and make sure the link icon is not active, then reset your autostretch and stretch again and the green should be gone.

  • @kevinashley478
    @kevinashley478 8 місяців тому

    Hey Nico, i have an off topic question...so, what is the thing called, the rings with the mount that you put a telescope/camera lens, in to mount it to the tracker?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому +1

      Not sure what you are asking. The rings are typically called rings. The rings attach to a ‘dovetail plate’ which is clamped by the dovetail saddle of the mount.

    • @kevinashley478
      @kevinashley478 8 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos ah, ok. Thank you! I just needed the names of the individual parts. So for example, I recently purchased a little 70mm MAK. Nothing spectacular, but i have been able to see great images of saturn and jupiter. I would like to put it on my SA 2i, but the "dovetail plate" that it came with is about 3 inches long....and thats being generous. So based on what you said, I need a dovetail plate and rings. So, I assume that i get rings based on the exterior diameter, right?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому +1

      @@kevinashley478 correct

    • @kevinashley478
      @kevinashley478 8 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos Thank you!

  • @eclarepetih6183
    @eclarepetih6183 8 місяців тому

    Ok Nico how do you get this to show up as a process? When I looked at Bill's explanation and downloaded it for myself it came up as a pixelmath script. I really want to have the dropdowns and sliders and the preview that you are using but I am not sure how to load it. If you are going to show some thing like this off that is not a default feature please give at least a brief blurb on how to load it either in the video or in the description.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому

      Sorry, meant to show in the video, and it slipped my mind. Below are instructions. I'll add to the video description too.
      1. Go to Resources -> Updates-> Manage Repositories... add this link: www.cosmicphotons.com/pi-modules/narrowbandnormalization/
      2. Go to Resources -> Updates-> Check for updates... and check for updates.
      3. Restart PixInsight and it will now show up under the Processes menu

    • @eclarepetih6183
      @eclarepetih6183 8 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos Thank you Nico!! I have already used this on my most recent image of the Veil and it helped a lot for my colors!

  • @christopherpsaros766
    @christopherpsaros766 9 місяців тому

    Hello Nico, I am very new to astrophotography, and I am having a problem with my images, and I’m not sure what the problem is. I collect an hour or two on pretty bright and big targets. So I don’t think it is the amount of data. But when I stack the data, and go to process it in Photoshop, Siril, etc. I can’t see anything. I’m not sure if I am using incorrect camera settings, or if my backyard is too light polluted. I would appreciate a tip or two so I can start getting some better images. Because right now it looks like I am taking pictures of a blank, black sky. Thanks!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому

      It's normal for the photo to start black out of DSS/Siril (24:50). My guess is you are not stretching it enough to see what you've captured. In photoshop, just repeatedly use 'Levels' moving the middle slider to the left until you see something. Check out my start to finish tutorials for more detail on some of this. If you are sucessfully stacking that suggests you are in-focus enough for the stacking software to find stars, so my guess is you just need to work on stretching. Another idea: in Siril open histogramTransformation, click the autostretch button, click apply. What does it look like?

    • @christopherpsaros766
      @christopherpsaros766 8 місяців тому

      When I click apply, I can’t see any nebulosity, or galaxy, etc. it just brightens the background. Which I guess could be normal for only an hour and a half, but I have seen your tutorials on capturing Pleiades, Andromeda, and others with not hours and hours of exposure time, so maybe I am just expecting to much?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому

      @@christopherpsaros766 Are you sure you were centered on the targets? try uploading a photo (screenshot is fine) of your stretched data to nova.astrometry.net to check. If you are on target, and are really seeing nothing in 90 minutes, maybe there is something wrong with your calibration. If you can't figure it out, send me an email: nicocarver at gmail dot com

  • @NoFeeArea
    @NoFeeArea 9 місяців тому

    Tip: Have your photography equipment set up September 14th by 5:30am and pointed to 71° azimuth. Have a tracker that can follow horizontally north to south at the Earth's current rotation speed for that along the horizon. Not sure how that works but you do. You might get the shot of a lifetime of a bizarre phenomena that I witnessed the morning after Leonard passed between the earth and sun and right before the sun rose. From our perspective p/1 will appear to travel horizontally toward the sun. Nobody believed me when I told them what I witnessed but it makes sense because the tail flips (from our perspective) and the Earth's rotation makes it appear as though it's travelling north to south and rising at the same time until the sun rises and dims it out. It is indeed a strange sight! You have better equipment than I but I will try to catch it if it's clear north of Chicago. Heads up!!

    • @NoFeeArea
      @NoFeeArea 9 місяців тому

      This is what I observed from northern Illinois the morning after Leonard passed the earth/sun zenith plane. It goes quickly so be prepared.
      ua-cam.com/video/4pP_roWBOCo/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

    • @NoFeeArea
      @NoFeeArea 9 місяців тому

      This was uploaded later that day from what they witnessed in Mexico.

  • @odysseyairsoft2071
    @odysseyairsoft2071 8 місяців тому

    Anyone know a good place to buy a Dual Narrowband Filter for a 58mm lens

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому

      You have two options:
      1. clip-in filter like the optolong l-enhance clip-in if you use a Canon crop sensor body.
      2. use step-down rings with a 48mm filter like the Svbony SV220 (tinyurl.com/svbony220) I used for these images. From 58mm to 48mm, the vignetting won't be too bad, just a little crop.

  • @goodboogie
    @goodboogie 8 місяців тому

    Hi Nico, how do I contact you to about testing products our new Astro company has developed?

  • @anata5127
    @anata5127 9 місяців тому

    Pixinsight > Photoshop > Gimp Pixinsight has so much flexibility.
    By the way, O3 real color should be greenish. 500nm is exactly that. In biology, 488nm on confocal microscope laser is assigned to green.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  9 місяців тому

      Yes, I know, but aesthetically red+green looks really ugly IMO. And since narrowband processing already messes with color balance, I don’t mind changing the colors to taste. If you want to stick to ‘true-ish’ color this whole scene would look just red because the OIII is too weak a signal.

    • @anata5127
      @anata5127 9 місяців тому +1

      @@NebulaPhotosYes. It is astrophotography thing. In microscopy, people love green and red, but not blue 😊.

  • @magicker8052
    @magicker8052 9 місяців тому

    Great if you have no noise

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  8 місяців тому

      Feel free to add in your favorite noise reduction process. I don't typically use it, but using noise reduction doesn't affect any of these workflows.

    • @magicker8052
      @magicker8052 8 місяців тому

      @@NebulaPhotos that's right
      . Rub it in..

  • @refetastro
    @refetastro 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video
    Question;
    Did you use mc camera ?
    Did you use one filter ha oiii ?
    Or two separate filters ha and oiii
    What make better the paid pixinsight program vd siril etc

  • @gustavosotomayor8391
    @gustavosotomayor8391 7 місяців тому

    Hi, I have seen the narrowband processing for nebulae, and I am currently looking for a topic for my doctoral research where I can apply "Deep Learning." This field of astrophotography is quite appealing to me. Would it be possible for us to have a conversation, and you could explain to me from your experience the potential areas in which AI can assist in astrophotography?