Bruh I really hate these debates because y’all bringing up a bunch of shit that don’t matter….dwight howard clearly the greatest Magic ever his Accomplishments says it all.
@@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 Well I’ll tell you when you are talking about the greatest players in teams history you going off basically their all time leader and what did you accomplish in that uniform. Howard is a 6 time all NBA and 3 time defensive player of the year no other player has better statistics than Howard over there. Outside of Rookie of the year, maybe 2 all nba and a finals appearance Shaq has no other accomplishments there all of his is with the Lakers period.
@@kenjones2181 It blows my mind that people act as if they don’t get that shit Dwight did way more in that uniform so he’s the magic all time GREAT. If y’all say it’s SHAQ then we might as well say that Michael Jordan is the greatest Bulls player and Washington Wizards as well as Lebron the greatest Laker, Cav and Heat player then which is stupid as hell
If we talking about stats on a team it might be Shaq. But if we the BEST player in terms of skill set then I got Penny Hardaway Mac Shaq Dwight Nick Anderson Grant Hill This is at the time of their magic run, not their career. Grant Hill was obviously the most skill player on my list but he was derailed by injuries.
@@nobad4265 Rashard Lewis or Vince, Jason Richardson, Horace Grant, Nick Anderson, Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley over Grant Hill far as an Orlando Magic player. Turkoglu also. Grant didn't get much burn at all.
I’d take Dwight just looking at the magic run. Just off defense alone he was a top 5 player around that time. He wasn’t shaq strong but not many centers were taking that shoulder/elbow to the chest from Dwight. The finals he went to he lost to the best player in the league and was a lob from being a different story
It’s Dwight. What did Shaq do there that Dwight didn’t? Dwight did everything Shaq did, but did it longer, and had more accolades as well. Its Dwight. If you’re doing starting 5 of the “best players” then clearly Shaq will take it because of his talent, but the greatest player as far as accolades and accomplishments. The answer is Dwight
@@MarzTalksSports I just checked Shaq numbers and accolades in Orlando. I was about to fire 🔥 ya ahh up Marz. But DAMN “[I] had no idea how good Shaq was” 😭 I really no idea Shaq was that OD in Orlando statistically. I defaulted to Dwight because of the difference in hardware accomplished and aggregate numbers during there Magic tenures. Touché.
raptors became a playoff team as soon as tmac left , magic as soon as tmac left became a contender , the rockets only ever won a series tmac was injured when he was in houston , worst playoff resume in history n made every team worse
Asking if Dwight was a better offensive player than AD is a Jokic fan type of question. Don’t forget, centers had a specific role to play for all of basketball history and Dwight did that better than 99% of centers. Jokic is an incredible player but Dwight being a play finisher vs. a playmaker isn’t a bad thing.
Dwight struggled with a lot of post moves, he was too stiff and robotic, plus Van Gundy and Patrick said he couldn’t pass out of double teams. Dwight was a freak of nature especially defensive wise but his lack of offense kinda kill his career
@@Djmas-t5c I’m not saying he’s better. I’m saying Dwight played at a time where people expected different things from centers and he did all that well
@@biglen_1 Players all the way back in the 60s were good playmakers,and had offenses run through them. When Jokic came in the league it was more expected to be a Dwight Howard,De Andre Jordan or Clint Capela type player, then what Jokic became. When Jokic came in centers were reduced to the smallest role in history. His talent broke the mold.
Dwight Howard revisionist history is getting crazy. I understand he should have been top 75 but man people are overrating him so much just to prove that he is disrespected. Just go back and watch actual games not highlights and you'll see how incredibly flawed he was as a player
Everybody is flawed as a player. How can Dwight be overrated when no one really rates him above Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem or even D-Rob? He’s one of the best defensive centers of all time and was constantly getting better on offense every year until the back injury in 2012.
Bruh I really hate these debates because y’all bringing up a bunch of shit that don’t matter….dwight howard clearly the greatest Magic ever his Accomplishments says it all.
Exactly.
It’s mainly due to Ron being incompetent
What did they bring up that didn’t matter in your opinion
@@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 Well I’ll tell you when you are talking about the greatest players in teams history you going off basically their all time leader and what did you accomplish in that uniform. Howard is a 6 time all NBA and 3 time defensive player of the year no other player has better statistics than Howard over there. Outside of Rookie of the year, maybe 2 all nba and a finals appearance Shaq has no other accomplishments there all of his is with the Lakers period.
It’s Dwight. 3 DPOYs in a row a finals appearance ruined Kobe vs Bron 8x all star You could argue Shaq but Dwight accomplished more with the team
@@kenjones2181 It blows my mind that people act as if they don’t get that shit Dwight did way more in that uniform so he’s the magic all time GREAT. If y’all say it’s SHAQ then we might as well say that Michael Jordan is the greatest Bulls player and Washington Wizards as well as Lebron the greatest Laker, Cav and Heat player then which is stupid as hell
Shaq best player, Dwight did more as a Magic
Dwight was a scrub lol. Shaq is dropping 85+ on his ass
@@machoboys8884Shaq didn't drop that on the trash centers he played 😂😂😂😂 Hop off his meat, acting like you in the beef
@@machoboys8884 that’s fine doesn’t change what he did
@@machoboys888485 foreal you childsh😂😂 if Shaq can't drop that on rik smith than he not getting that on Dwight
@@hawaiin420 all Dwight did was disappoint lol
D12 the greatest Magic. Shaw is the best to ever wear a Magic jersey. Theres a difference
Brian Shaw was a dog
Love this shit to the core , we done went big , PLAYERS CHOICE THE ONLY CHOICE❤
33 turnovers when marz said that i was lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nah that’s insane stat
As a Magic fan who had Dwight as his favorite player and grew became on through Tmac era…it’s D12 all day. Shout out to stand van💪🏾🔥
I'm from Orlando, Dwight the only one stayed long enough to get that label. He accomplished alot here too
It’s Dwight Howard is best magic of all time period.
Not even a debate it's Dwight. Why are they even talking about this
Ron tapped into his prince
Yo Mars standards for players are insane Dwight and Lebron was the most dominant players from 07-11
If we talking about stats on a team it might be Shaq. But if we the BEST player in terms of skill set then I got
Penny Hardaway
Mac
Shaq
Dwight
Nick Anderson
Grant Hill
This is at the time of their magic run, not their career. Grant Hill was obviously the most skill player on my list but he was derailed by injuries.
The all time starting 5 would be crazy tho
Hardaway
Mcgrady
Hill
Howard
O'Neal
Soon Paolo & Franz will be replacing G Hill & McGrady.
All in there prime would be a insane team
@@nobad4265 Rashard Lewis or Vince, Jason Richardson, Horace Grant, Nick Anderson, Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley over Grant Hill far as an Orlando Magic player. Turkoglu also. Grant didn't get much burn at all.
Yes.
It's Dwight because of longevity
It's Dwight and it's not close.
I’d take Dwight just looking at the magic run. Just off defense alone he was a top 5 player around that time. He wasn’t shaq strong but not many centers were taking that shoulder/elbow to the chest from Dwight. The finals he went to he lost to the best player in the league and was a lob from being a different story
Scottie wasn’t better then Shaq. O GOH 😂😂😂
It’s Howard it’s simple man he done a lot led his team to the finals etc
Ofc Shaq played better right away. He played 3 years in college. Dwight came right out of high school
Shaq averaged 23points 14 rebounds & 3.5 blocks as a rookie that’s career highs for Dwight in every category
Not true
@@MartyMcFly__25it is though lol. Dwight’s career highs are 23, 14.5 and 3
It’s Dwight. What did Shaq do there that Dwight didn’t?
Dwight did everything Shaq did, but did it longer, and had more accolades as well.
Its Dwight.
If you’re doing starting 5 of the “best players” then clearly Shaq will take it because of his talent, but the greatest player as far as accolades and accomplishments. The answer is Dwight
Shaq
Dwight
Tracy Mcgrady
Penny
It’s Howard and it’s not close
Hate to break it to people but you actually CANT argue Shaq had a better MAGIC’s career than Dwight.
i think we literally made the argument so erm i think we can
@@MarzTalksSports I just checked Shaq numbers and accolades in Orlando. I was about to fire 🔥 ya ahh up Marz. But DAMN
“[I] had no idea how good Shaq was” 😭
I really no idea Shaq was that OD in Orlando statistically. I defaulted to Dwight because of the difference in hardware accomplished and aggregate numbers during there Magic tenures. Touché.
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it's D12
Idk if you can blame Mac for the 3-1 comeback now that Doc has done it multiple times now.
Both to blame
raptors became a playoff team as soon as tmac left , magic as soon as tmac left became a contender , the rockets only ever won a series tmac was injured when he was in houston , worst playoff resume in history n made every team worse
@@survivingwatson7430 what was the magic like before he got their? Genuinely asking I'm not too familiar with the Magic franchise before he got there.
It's clearly Evan Fournier man y'all trippin!🙄🍻🍺...lol
You can tell MARS. Is so young man his takes make him look like a hater
Shaq is the best, Dwight is the greatest. Just like Bird is the best Celtic but Bill is the greatest.
Dwight on magic was better then shaq on magic. Shaq on lakers is better then Dwight period
Shaq
🗣SHAQ
😂 shaq was there 4 years and went to finals 2 years if I'm not wrong.
1 finals
Dwight
I fuck with ox but he always got one dumb ass take 😂 how does someone talk shit up 3-1 and then loses 3-4 and it don’t make it worse.
Ron doesn't know basketball 😅
Asking if Dwight was a better offensive player than AD is a Jokic fan type of question. Don’t forget, centers had a specific role to play for all of basketball history and Dwight did that better than 99% of centers. Jokic is an incredible player but Dwight being a play finisher vs. a playmaker isn’t a bad thing.
Dwight struggled with a lot of post moves, he was too stiff and robotic, plus Van Gundy and Patrick said he couldn’t pass out of double teams. Dwight was a freak of nature especially defensive wise but his lack of offense kinda kill his career
hes not better than ad on offense...
Relax he not better than ad
@@Djmas-t5c I’m not saying he’s better. I’m saying Dwight played at a time where people expected different things from centers and he did all that well
@@biglen_1 Players all the way back in the 60s were good playmakers,and had offenses run through them. When Jokic came in the league it was more expected to be a Dwight Howard,De Andre Jordan or Clint Capela type player, then what Jokic became. When Jokic came in centers were reduced to the smallest role in history. His talent broke the mold.
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Why does Chill and Swipa have on Jordan shoes and not LeBron shoes? 🤔🤣
What does wearin Jordan’s havin to do wit anything 🤨?
@@ChillTownHoops I’m just saying if you think LeBron is the goat over Jordan you should be wearing his shoes 🤷🏽♂️🤣
@@puncho8799bcz Jordans are better sneakers and lebron is a better player
@@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti Jordan is a better player and he has better shoes 🐐💯👌🏽
@@puncho8799 what does he do better then lebron besides scoring
Dwight Howard revisionist history is getting crazy. I understand he should have been top 75 but man people are overrating him so much just to prove that he is disrespected. Just go back and watch actual games not highlights and you'll see how incredibly flawed he was as a player
Bro what's so overrated about him? And please don't say his offense
Everybody is flawed as a player. How can Dwight be overrated when no one really rates him above Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem or even D-Rob? He’s one of the best defensive centers of all time and was constantly getting better on offense every year until the back injury in 2012.
Ron doesn't know basketball 😅