Tarkov’s Most Cost Effective Armor!
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bro doubled the price of my monoclete 3s
Tarkov community does research -> BSG spots the player trends -> Item gets nerfed -> AND REPEAT
@BasedGawdNevWhere are you r*etards coming from, ain't no way this many dumb people play this game, or might just be that you guys are the loudest...
@BasedGawdNevmight be a skill issue
FUCK BSG AND CHEATERS
@BasedGawdNevshut up nerd lol
@BasedGawdNevlol the irony of accusing someone of not having an independent thought, when you're just parroting the same junk from the subreddit 🤣
Pot meet kettle 😂
As much as i love the new armor...its so annoying that we have to jump through MORE hoops to get our kits together. We need an entire stash/inventory overhaul. I just wanna kit up and get in a raid. Not go through 15 steps just to get my armor right. 15 more steps for my weapon. 15 steps for meds, food, ammo, keys, grenades ect. Early wipe is fun...paca, mosin, p3nis helm, GO!! End of wipe im telling my friends to give me an hour and ill be ready for the raid only to get spawn killed 10 seconds in cause bsg thinks we need to spawn right next to the enemy 😂
So true)
Do you not use presets? Less than a minute and I'm back in.
@@Razooie Presets don't work with barter deals though
True, they should.@@traderjo9552
Damn this hit the nail on the head so perfectly
Great source of information as always. Easy to understand and I like that you break down how to get certain plates, helps alot!
Glad there was some weight focus, real nice. I would recommend a light weight LV5 plate on your back and a LV6 plate on your front to get the most out of the armors. But i only wanna do this to the highest tiers since that's real hard to obtain.
Scavs with a paca: Tanks 50 bullets
Me with a trooper: Die to 9x19 PST
:(
overpen is a thing, remember that when you are running high pen, low damage bullets. Besides, just aim for the head
@@turtl1873Seems like it happens no matter what ammo I use. I typically run 545, with just a few BP on top followed by either PS or PP, whatever I happen to have (only level 14) and it seems like even with the standard PS rounds, it takes ages to kill scavs (outside of headshots). They're definitely more of a threat to me now than they have been in the past, which I'm fine with, I just hate that I need to make so much noise to kill them if they catch me by surprise.
@@Battlefield2021same bro, when i fight pmc´s they seem to die after 5-6 shots, then Theres a scav who surprises me around a corner and i grotta magdump him before he dies, but not before he´s given me atleast 2 black limbs aswell as a couple of bleeds and fractures
bro this myth needs to stop, overpen does nothing in tarkov, your bullet is doing the same damage whether it goes through a person or stops inside them, the only thing effecting this is how much the armor slowed down the shot and whether or not it penned. this is why 7.62 BP (yes i know its bugged thiswipe but assuming it isnt bugged) will kill someone in 2 shots to the chest even if they're naked.@@turtl1873
@@turtl1873it’s not a thing. Unless you are referring to the balancing that high pen ammo receives, notably lower damage.
There is no downside to having more pen in tarkov, everything else being equal.
I always use the flora armour where korund plates can be put, always comes back
Another “sleeper vest” is the press vest. I sneak level 5-6 plates in those too
Not worth. Everyone checks plates now. And that armor only has lvl 2 neck. Neck protection will save you and makes wearing a helmet exponentially more worth it. Only west that sleeper vest with no helm
@@Boosted_aj doenst feel like ppl are checking. Pretty much 100% of them are coming back
@@Boosted_aj I rarely have my armor, let alone it's plates, taken unless there are player scavs in the mix like on streets or lighthouse
@@Boosted_ajeveryone definitely does not check lol
High quality, helpful and informative video. Thanks Mr Beef!
Just a quick comment to add two things about the gac plates, those repair really well and they can be found in big pipe armor.
Good video, nice to see someone else using the class 4 uhmwp plates in the back to keep down weight! I must admit though I did get thorax killed in the back on labs by a raider using 5.45 BT, which a class 5 plate would probably have prevented a lot of damage from
Love those sappy side plates
You can craft the m2 in the hideout also, and the default kiba titan plates aren’t bad
Buying the Hexatac HPC Plate Carrier from Ragman and then stripping the GAC plates and selling the carrier back, is about 10k cheaper per plate than crafting them in the hideout, or at least it was when i last checked.
Moonshine scav case quite often gives toy lvl 5-6 plate carriers. Those are great ways to get plates
I noticed this and all my crafted moonshine goes into this
not worth at all. 340k for a lv 5/6 plates
I don't think I got a single lvl5/6 plate carrier from moonshine, the most I got was a Gzhel from the 95k one...
big fan of ur content man. keep up the outstanding work!!
Not only are the monocletes lvl 4 and the GAC lvl 5s very light but they also repair FAR better than other plates
Just on time i needed this!
I soley run the Gen 4 assault, FORT defender-2 and the Redut-M armours. They are very survivable, when you don't get headshot. I just buy them from Ragman with all the plates in them and the weight is worth the solid protection they offer. I run a meldonin and have basically max strength also, so the weight isn't noticeable. Overall I enjoy the Gen 4 Assault the most.
I really like the Gen 4 HMK personally, and I try to replace the plates with lighter weight ones too unless I'm already running a pretty light loadout otherwise. The difference in movement inertia and footstep volume from being over vs. underweight is really noticeable to me.
Great vid, thanks!!
So I guess the moral of the story is run what we like as long as we have class 4-5 plates with soft armor protection? Anyway thanks for another great info video giga!
great vid, what i was really wondering was how does the baragly work with korund plates, compared to korund plates in the 6b13 (propane barter ceramic one) vs the normal korund
it seems like the baragly dosnt have the physical real estate for the groin plate from the korund and the carrier says no groin protection, needs testing i think becasue baragly with korund front plate seems solid on paper
Sorry if I missed it but has there been testing on comparing lvl 3 soft armor paired with lvl 4 plates (say a defender or redut with monoclete) vs a lvl 2 soft paired with lvl 5 plates (Korund with the korund lvl 5 plates)? Is the korund combo superior because the lvl 5 plate or does the soft armor have a big enough impact to make it even? Dont care about weight
My personal recommendation for early game budget armor that is good on a budget that you won't have to worry about specific specs to much are:
Zhuk press: 3 front, back. 2 stomach, sides, throat, back neck. Durability 110.
Kirasa-N: 3 front, back. 2 stomach, sides, throat, back neck Durability 150.
6B13: 4 front, back. 2 stomach, sides, throat, back neck, groin.
All come in at around 50k - 75k on flea
Flora Uley works amazing for cheap questing or pvp
my fave has been the m2 + GAC + mono
even before the soft armor upgrade
it's just the lightest option with adequate protection
Same as the thor though, and that always had class 3 soft
I still love using the old Ars Arma CPC. Rig is cheap with its reputation going down the gutter, love the space and still has decent protection even if its not optimal anymore. Plus the fact you can print GAC plates in the hideout if you have a spare laying around adds to it imo
Bagariy better than any rig except Osprey Mk4 A(P).
as always great informative videos.
If you complete long line you can do a barter for tasmanien tiger, which gives you 2 class 6 plates for 170k which would be the cheapest way to get class 6 plates
Class 4 Titan plate cost around 8k roubles and weights 2.2 kilos on Skier (after Setup).
To be fair I usually like to run heavier armour. Can be good for maxing strength early
been running the mbss with frontal lvl 4 plates lately, mainly labs and it works wonders. Can get it for like 35k, and I only care about the plate either way cause lvl 2 aramid wont really help me
Defender has been my overall favorite
Me over here running 16kg armor every match 😂 I was really shocked to not see my current main rig on here but i understand it’s because of the weight and with the defender being close to it in a lot of ways it makes since but kirasa is my second main and I slapped the level six br5 plates I got out of the rigs from quest rewards makes that thing like 7kg and then took the front plate from my gzhel and put it in a press all ways get it back but I think my favorite rn is the kirasa with level 6 but my main is the (can’t think of the name) one that’s just like the defender but
weighs twice as much 😂 I don’t have access to defender quite yet need one more t rig for sew it part 4 but even once I do idk if I will run it as a main with lack of coverage compared to the one I use tho they weight is very enticing as I am sick of having to pop a sj6 and trem or a mule or all three just to get out in time 😂😂😂 all in all I needed this updated info so thanks
the thor has been top notch all wipe for me. its saved my life numerous times and with 2 GAC platyes with side plates i have tier 5 armor all the way around and its only 6 kilos.
i made this comment before he got to the thor armor lol
I frequently buy 6b13 from flea for under 40k with two plates in them. Thats unbeatable value for the money and they always come back from insurgence.
Maybe if they made the arms "class 2" or something so it can be penetrated by larger rounds? That would be awesome.
That's pretty much how the arms worked last patch they were around class 3 I think, Tayeoff did the testing however idk what their "armor class" was at the start of this wipe or if they changed at all
Would love to see a video about bullet pen mechanics when passing through multiple hitboxes and maybe multiple armour areas, like arm armour -> arm -> soft chest -> chest (E: just realised this is a bad example with current bug, swap arm for leg!). Couple of times this wipe we've been trying to break down what's happen when shooting people with 338 and seeing weird armour/health amounts on final screen. Stuff like 1 shot, 2 hits, 85 damage, 137(ish) armour damage. Looks like it hit the armour but still also had enough to one shot chest. Would be cool to know how to read this stuff, like is that armour damage just the exit hitting a back plate?
I wish the post raid screen showed up for co-op offline - the fact that it doesn't makes it 10x harder as you have to test it live to see the full breakdown!
@@Gigabeef ah, what a pain. I had no idea. I suppose a 5 man factory is the only real way then but that does sound like a slog. Thanks anyway!
Plate Carriers would be good for fast, lightweight armors that don't hamper your movement too much. Personally I'm glad to stop running into slicks and hexgrids being the most common things, and if you REALLY want to protect yourself, you have to be heavier and can't be nearly as maneuverable as you would be with the slick or hexgrid. But I'm also not a movement player so...
this guy does NOT MISS
(content-wise, I'm sure he does miss occasionally in game)
Thanks giga I’m Ready for sledgehammers to be 400k now 😂
bro made my ana m2 turn into an 80k flea, and here i thought i had a new shitkit
The heavy plates and light plates doesnt have any difference besides weight? Ive heard that light plates were not as good as the heavy ones because the light plates lets the caracter receives blunt damage while the heavy plates avoid that. Is it wrong what I heard?
Yeah all plates give blunt now
Since the beginning of this wipe I’ve been thinking, why don’t they add the ability to wear the paca and DDR armours under armoured rigs that don’t have the aramid coverage? Would make a lot of the useless rigs viable again with weight & cost potentially being a balancing factor.
Doesn’t effective durability still apply? These plates have different material properties and I’d be surprised if bsg just removed the feature or forgot it with the update.
I must be weird since weight usually isnt a priority for me. Then again I always prioritize max strength
Does soft armor/aramid follow the old armor system? As in does aramid cover all of thorax even where it doesn’t show it?
Kinda. It doesn't cover all the thorax, but it covers a standardized hitbox, so no matter how does the armor look, "thorax" aramid hitbox will always be the same
It follows the old methodology, except the old thorax is now front/back/l.side/r.side. So "Thorax" now means only the front - yes soft covers all of this if it's listed in the tooltip, but you can never protect "thorax side" for example
@@GigabeefThanks for the clarification!
@@user-if4zv5nj5m Thanks, makes sense!
Just a few hours after the patch I went on labs a Raider shoot me 1 time with Warmageddon in the armpit -> thorax and i die wearing Osprey P and he hit it straight from behind.. 2 hours ago same thing normal scav 5.45x39 HP hit me 2 times left arm once (arm gone) secound shoot killed me armpit -> thorax while my arm was in the way I think Scavs had a workaround for the patch. Another situation on Woods scav eats 6x M80 right in the Thorax before dying i checked the scav no Armor at all... Another day another Scav, this time on Reserve one Scav scared me and I magdumped him 45 shoots 5.45x39 BT the only enemy i shoot at in this Raid and oc he killed me. Dmg done to this one and only scav? 564 he didin´t even cough, after that damage my mate hits one shoot and he dies. He checks the scav and he just had a paca on. Something is really wrong with the Scavs/Raiders sometimes ..
I got armpit one-shot 4 times in the last 2 days.. I’m going back to osprey
I am glad the ana m2 is back, it's been my go-to lv.4 armor the past few wipes, so I am still emotionally attached to it lol
when i go to modding on armour i cannot see any plates. why?
Depends which armor & whether you'd added any or not
Video would mean something if Xili-Zhua didn't just spinbot the map
all that trouble to get 2 taped on the armpit to a guy sitting in the corner with a naked AKS-74U with PS ammo 🙂
I just looked at thor armour on flea and they are 90k-100k now...
press vest is op just got prap max lev now im repping tier 5 front and tier 6 back and no one is taking my shit such a W
The press armor was insane for a lvl 3 before they added all this plates and stuff . But I haven't played in like 4 wipes so I guess I'm a old tarkov boomer 😅
It got even better now you can swap the plates out for tier 5 when you do missions and get max level prap its so op@@justinkedgetor5949
What item does he use at the beginning of the video to be able to use 2 sights at the same time???
Mpr 45 canted. You will need to bind the key to switch between them to something useful. I use a mouse button
@@michaele1564 thank you bro
I have a qustion. Maybe someone can explain this to me or gigabeef itself. I have really do not exatcly understand the problem with for example MMAC, where under "Armor Areas" there is no "Thorax" and "Stomach" listed. I repeated a few time the moment, where gigabeef is explaining this.
MMAC - Do this armor have soft armor behind plates? From what i understand, gigabeef mean that there is just no soft armor protection around Plates like by the FLORA Armor. But it should have soft armor behind plates, yes?
to my understanding mmac doesnt have soft armor, its strictly the plate, and the plate only takes up a portion of the rig.
So the MMAC DOES have Class 2 soft armor, but it only protects the plate area exactly. It means you can get buckshotted from the front and still die to chest, which is annoying imo
how much str i need to get a big increase on carry weight ?
Loads, it's been scaled back a lot. Max strength makes your guns weigh nothing when carried but other than that it doesn't go up anywhere near as much as it used to
ONLY LVL 4 WESTERN PLATES YOU NEED.
Spartan ELAPHROS, KIBA ARMS Titan & Monoclete III
wait what? fence sell gzhel at max rep? can anyone confirm this?
Just as part of the random items. You see all sorts of things but it's suuuper rare
at risk of sounding like an idiot, you should absolutely not take plate weight as your deciding factor, the real reason the Gac and monoclete plates are so good is because they have very low destructibility and repair insanely well, they just so happen to also be the lightest ones.
That’s because of the material they are made out of
If there was more of a difference between the practical effectiveness then I would care more. But plates are so rarely zeroed, you have to take an incredible amount of damage - and the likelihood of that is also very low as the target area is not very big. It's nothing like the old system where anywhere on your chest/stomach from any side would hit armor and deal dura damage.
On that basis, I would still probably take the lightest plates even if they were nerfed to 50% of the durability that they have now
I dont think cheaters care what armours you have on.
Noooo my monoclete prices
why no redut?
dont sleep on my ana m2
I just wear a PACA and hope for the best.
I got killed by ppsh rounds while wearing a korund...never wearing that again
Nooooooooo U killed the flea price for my fav armour 😅
i swear my armor doesnt even come into play like 80% of my deaths. the number of times ive died to "armpit, right arm, stomach, jaw, eyes, ears" is fucking ridiculous.
interesting to not hear the korund armor literally at all. one of the only lvl5 armors you can buy from trader and it wont be sold out. its heavy yes. saved me from m62 a couple times from the same guy in the same raid tho.
Iv just died to scavs going straight threw the front plate with 7.62 ps it’s a hella interesting and inconsistent armor\ plates
It's only Class 2 soft armor so I think there are better options
@@Gigabeef assuming you can get ahold of lvl 5 plates ya sure. i see your point.
@@silver-9692 not the same for me. its blocked 308 rounds pretty consistently for me.
lets see
i got three tapped by a piranha round while wearing my Korund armor with lvl 5 plates
armor doesn't work. I font care what anyone says. Scavs taking 2 points off my level 5 plates with fmj but half my thorax health. Makes no sense.
@@mskibo5 Korund has class 2 soft armor, piranha has 24 pen. It will go through unless it hits the actual plate. Same with FMJ.
3:15 "there doesn't seem to be any difference between plates of the same class" --- wait, is effective durability based on armor type no longer a mechanic?
I mean, it is - but the difference is basically meaningless given the target area is so much smaller and the plates are relatively similar
It is, but because of how low the destructibility %s are now, it doesn't matter as much as before.
It is, but UHMWPE has the best effective durability and is the lightest with combined materials being crazy heavy being next best so just stick to the poly plates. For the class 6 plates you are basically stuck with a plate that can only be repaired 1-2 times before it needs to be replaced so until you are a real baller just stick with the infinitely repairable class 5 poly plates and you are good to go.
@@Sightbain. With t4 plates, people should also check that titan one with 55 showed durability. Its effective durability is even higher than that of a monoclete.
THor COnceal armor, because cheap and level 3 arimid
Soooo what about the korund?
Korund is Class 2 soft, think it's overpriced tbh. Better to use Kirasa with Korund front if you have that unlocked imo
@@Gigabeef I had no idea there was a change, thought it was class 3 soft still
Not considering destructability at all?
Tbh no... it never becomes a factor these days. Aramid has insane destructability so it doesn't matter, and for the plates it just doesn't make enough difference between them to worry about - especially with the two good ones being up there as polymer materials (monoclete/GAC)
surprised not to see the killa armor on here, level 3 soft armor good coverage and can put decent plates in there, feels like its been working well for me
@gigabeef no love for the Uley? lvl 4 full coverage of chest, back, groin, for 60k from trader? All I ve run this wipe and I feel like I know a secret
I talked about the Uley right at the beginning after the DRD as the "run and gun" armor without having to think too hard :)
@@Gigabeef Sorry, I missed the first bit
isn't the ANA M2 coverage worse than the thor due to the physical coverage being less or does it not matter? like the ana has straps that dont cover as much as the thor's shoulders for example.
Nah physical doesnt matter. Soft areas define the armor protection!
Visual coverage doesn't matter. Armor covers specific hitboxes, which can be seen at the description. For example, every armor that has "thorax" listed will cover your thorax exactly the same, no matter how does it look visually
All this shit goes over my head bro. I just run pacas and whatever I get off of pmc’s lol
Gigabeef try not to min-max challenge (imposible)
Let's see how you attack the weight aspect 🤔
Let's be honest if you make it to ragman 4 and aren't buying com 4 and maxing out your kit, you are doing it just to sit on absurd amounts of cash with bitcoins being worth essentially 4 class 6 plates by your calculations.
The super heavy armors need class 4 or even class 5 aramid - else they are just completely worthless. The armor item space has shrunk so massively this wipe it is really sad.
I think so. NFM Thor, Zabralo and Redut T-5 wouldn't be imbalanced with Class 4 soft, given their other penalties
@@GigabeefWhat about Class 5 soft? You'd still have the penalties, but it would require ammo with serious penetration to work through them.
Have you also noticed the difference in used ammunition this wipe compared to the previous ones? 856A1 is still the standard for 5.56 this late into the wipe.
Oh yeah 100%. Because there are so many areas that have no/little armor, you can even get away with M855 tbh. 30 pen is totally usable in 0.14@@thrombocyte2054
@gigabeef bro no one is coverying the bugs in armor right now. Airwing covered it over a month ago, but I'm still getting 1 tapped through level 5 armor in 50 percent of my games. I'm getting one tapped by FMJ round SOST rounds M80 Rounds m62 BCP all have one shot me multiple times so many times I've stopped playing this wipe yesterday. Even though I have max traders and 30 mil. I do just fine. I just cant handle getting one shot in thorax through a hexgrid. Please help bring attention to this
Can you send me some clips/after raid reports to investigate? Would be interested to see some new examples post patch
Give me a week and i'll have it all for you. I dont record so I'll have to start. @@Gigabeef
I saw fmj from a scav take out half my buddies thorax through a level 5 plate in a korund. I have been killed by m80 and bcp-fmj through a fresh level 5 plate as well. A few armor points will be taken off the plate but I will lose half my thorax health on normal ammos.@@Gigabeef
Crazy tedious to have to craft plates for armor
Fence lvl 6 trader also got a workaround. I've bought multiple slicks from him, he sells them for 250- 300k. Buy the slick, take out the plates. Sell slick to ragman (180k). Tadaaa 2 lvl 6 plates for 100-120k
Soft armor level 3 around the neck and other areas isn't worth shit 2 months into wipe. Not worth the weight at all.
Oh yeah just need level 4 traders....lol
I wish they would gamify the plates a little and ignore the east west plate restrictions for the front and back. It's fine how it is, but it would make it a little more convenient.
The new armor systen is very annoying scavs just seem to ignore my armor most of the time they always shoot arms and arm pits or high chest area
Hi
Armour not worth wearing anymore?
would be nice if you stop giving away all the hidden gems dude. Nice video anyway 😭
OwO
The armor system now it’s just bad. Basically better off running nothing as everything just pens the plates or just flesh kills you anyway. Also on arm protection, it’s defo still important iv died more times to arms than head this wipe
Or, I play three raids with random armor in the time it takes me to build one armor for one raid.
That's a stretch if I've ever seen one
Kit presets are a heavily underutilized part of the game, take me 30 seconds to fully kit up for another raid
@@melvincooly8I love em but haven’t found a good way to set any up since I almost always use a different gun and/or armor
The Uley is this for me in fairness
What I do is set up a kit labeled "Empty" and put the backpack I use most, rig, meds, food, and then leave the weapon/helm/armor empty so I can pick and choose what I want.
This is so useful so I don't have to go into my cases to get what I want out. It takes me such little time and thought to just get ready and go now man, so nice@@anttdogg
Bro. Just a fyi. There is so much unnecessary talking in this. Like get to the point and show the best of the best. Not what doesn't work or why it doesn't work or this option that option. Just say what is what and what is best. It's simple. Just a suggestion. So much bs to hear in between
Me watching this video while having 8 Korunds, 6 Ghzels, 5 Osprey As in mys stash knowing I won’t be able to get rid of them any time soon 🥲
Great vid, thanks!