Hello Buildzoid. I am the first memory OC. I in fact do not know what I am doing. I come to your videos to try and get an idea of what I am doing. Thank you for your feedback. I was having a ton of stability issues at a couple of lower timings, but I will definitely try disable ecores and come back. Thank you!
@@neilpirelli9240 are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe it? Can you give some context? Assertions without explanation can be dismissed without explanation. 💩
first Some extra information on DR vs SR: ua-cam.com/video/25NW8cHNrgA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/1ZbxMh5xUOg/v-deo.html tRRDs and tFAW: ua-cam.com/video/GHfXRUPLj1I/v-deo.html
I think you have stumbled into a great format for yourself; This provides structure so you end up getting a lot more coherent information out. Great stuff!
I think that doing this stuff is awesome and the time isn’t a big deal for me personally. Hearing what is good and what is the best options teaches us. Hopefully I can bring a kit to the table that’s impressive
Low effort on your side, high reward on both sides. We get all the do's and don'ts that come up during your reviews. And I think this will be very popular for your channel. The amount of variety you will get with this is super valuable. It's why it's so hard to make over clocking videos teaching people how to over clock. Everyone want to have numbers given to them just to punch in and not understand how each system and situation is different. Every chips IMC is different, the platforms different, each component different. And all those differences show, and the mistakes you point out help us all ensure not make those same mistakes. I love it, keep em coming.
Massively enjoyed that. Part two would be cool, more random chips or sticks would be cool if there are more in the responses. Look for the 96gb lunatic... Probably loads of revE Ryzen like mself already.
That was cool I definitely learned some things I didn't know before. Still the pcb breakdowns and the oscilloscope videos are my faves. I feel kinda sorry for the last guy you roasted lolz
Great balance between Roasting and Rating :D Yes I think this kind of video every once in a while is good! I'm playing with my first bdie kit (2x8 - 3600 - cl16) on an Asus X570-I and 5700G. I hope to get some good results so I can post something even if I'm a normie :D
Your comment about YT deleting links made me realize how much time and effort I spent for absolutely nothing, lol. OC pics here, articls and forum posts there, and they just silently take it down? Would have been nice to at least get notified, even if it's to be told to forget about posting such crap on their platform, but at least now I know lol.
is the new smart thing to to set tras lower then the old trcd+tcl? It used to be that if you went below it there was a possible performance hit as the system can't really use below a certain amount and has to subsititue the number. But since we can't change trc is it smart to use that to lower it?
Buildzoid being absolutely savage to his viewers. Love it! Slightly mean but very constructive Gonna post my settings as well to get roasted :D (I hope)
hello, one question, should I get a build with i7-12700 and ddr5, since it is said that the ddr5 are now not the best I wanted to ask you what I should pay attention to when choosing a motherboard as optimized as possible on the hardware side with this ddr5 technology in view of the future (even bearing in mind to overclock the RAM in the future to 6000 / 6400MHz)? if you can recommend some technical specifications, or what should I give more importance in choosing the mobo knowing that the goal is to get one that I would use with RAM banks more mature than I would buy in 1/2 years when the ddr5 will no longer be "immature". So hypothetically it goes better than the others with DDR5 of the future in practice😅. I ask you pk informing me I noticed a big difference between models of ddr5 motherboards, both for problems that some cards give and others not, and for better or worse optimization of the hardware. Thanks in advance for your patience :)
You can't even post links to other youtube videos on youtube lmfao but somehow the spammers still get away with spamming BS phishing sites... Makes ya wonder
I just met some strange stuff happening with my RAM overclock. I tightened timings even more, at cost of bumping voltage from 1.45 to 1.47 But for some reason, my latency just tanked since my previous tests... From 57.8 ns up to normal 62.4 ns (and even up to 64 ns), which is not normal to happen for no reason UPD... Found culprit = tSME was enabled. Disabling it fixed latency problems
Sorry buildzoid, but this is more like the community created a content for you, not like you created a content for the community. With all the respect, I don´t like this.
he noticed my spectek chips in the 2nd one, ill try the sub timings settings later on and report back, because this memory really hates going above 3600 or going below 21 in 3600 along with spitting anything above 1.4v giving me headaches for 2 days before settling on this one, then again the ram cost $65 converted brand new soo yea... to be expected i guess, thank you for the suggestions also with thaipoon the memory type doesn't even come out, its just undefined and just says transcend, the only way to know is by taking a pic of the chip which i probably should
Can e-cores cause error to appear when they shouldn't? I was running HCI up to %1200 error free, with the 140mm RAM fan on about %50 PWM and I was getting 30 celsius msx temps on RAM. I then decided to turn the fan as low as possible and mem temps went to 37c max but I was getting quite a lot of errors on many threads in a short time just going from %1200 to %1300. Running 12700k stock. How is it possible it was running error free for almost a day at 30c max temps but at 37c lots of errors showed up in a short period of time?
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Oh really is that so? Since this is my first rodeo OCing ram, having read on reddit OC forums I was under the impression that with B-Die those errors only show up at 45c~50c+. I'm on Z690 D4, 2x16GB dual rank at 3800-14-14-14-30 with very similar subtimings to the ones posted in recent Z690/D4 videos.
@@Ben-ld1qi it depends on the sticks and the settings you're trying to run. The more aggressive your timings the more temperature sensitive the RAM gets.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Alright thanks for clearing things up. Because I initially thought that there was something wrong seeing errors at 'only' 37c. I'll experiment a bit to see if I can run error free in the high 30's celsius with looser subtimings. Thanks again!
I just picked up my first intel chip which is a 12600k, and can get 5.4 allcore at 1.275v on a 120mm evga aio!!! thanks buildzoid for the memory oc tips!!!
It'd be great to see more. A million identical B-die tunes might be a bit much, but there's a lot of potential in setups that aren't 2x8GB B-die. If you ever take submissions from the patreon discord I could post a couple...
You know… I have an MSI x470 gaming pro and every time I touch the RAM timings shit goes haywire. 2700x, Trident Z 4133 CL19 2x8GB kit. I think I just killed my motherboard, it won't POST, it just blinks once after I press the clr_CMOS button. I'm going to look through your videos for a good x570 board and see what I can impulse buy.
Oh I made it. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try 3600. And yes tRFC is on Auto, my motherboard is weird, RFC says 312 idk if that's ns or what. Update: I hate RAM overclocking 😂, having trouble with stability no matter what I do.
Got my bdie run 5000 cl 16 @1.8v for pi benching and geek. 4800 cl 15 on 3d benchmark. Partiot viper 4400 eith cezzane 5600g, just posted late on tweeter. And yes i bought this ram upon seeing yours and my fellow teammates recomendation 🥰
23:14 my city now (full screencap actually had my discord handle in notepad), so scls anywhere below 7 would error. trrd situation is a product of my brainfart at the time. and no, tfaw anywhere below 42 wasn't stable... i don't even remember anymore if that was auto or like a few ticks below auto. a lot of ram i have (second hand ebay junk) does that to me, even on the 5700g. tfaw loose or straight out auto, errors otherwise (i actually grew to love ram that refuses to post at 16, usually means it can do 24 without hassle xd), independent of the trrd set. trfc is pitiful as frigg for 4gbit agnostic of vdimm, my 4gbit g ran 230ns let alone other microns (even cutdowns from 8gbit) that will do 200 and lower... and then you have 8gbit d which hangs around in the lower 200s as is (i think i tested that with my 2133c15 green mushkins?? 240ns on those), and 8gbit a which can run criminally low trfc, being the absolute bsod-ey system restore-y trash in all other aspects. cheers and thank you for the edutainment!
Ye do more of these videos. I like it. PS: BTW you are right. Today everyone copies timings from guides or other people without understanding the relations b/w them.
I post links with my comments pretty regularly and only when the channel owner has it configured to auto remove or when you first want to check the comment it will get listed for you to approve or decline and only then will the comment not go through. I also think that as long as you use UA-cam links to another video or channel that UA-cam will approve, not 100% sure though. I know that UA-cam also has a blacklist for links they don't want you to use but I don't know which websites are on that blacklist.
Well it seems Patriot viper 8GB 4000c16 x4 =32GB DDR4, on my 570X ASUS DARK HERO , have two XMP , the 4000cl16 is great 2x8 sticks , not 4x8 , but 3600cl14 x4 XMP is the sweet spot , Time Spy CPU only test is 1488 with XMP , with my 5950X / 4090 is more than enough for gaming and day to day use.
13:18 I have zen+ cpu and anything above 3200 gets unstable as soon as the imc hits ~60°C Still, I can boot up to 3733 on very loose timings. It just isn't stable and gets even worse, when the cpu gets hot.
I have zero clue on overclocking memory I've got Gskills trident z 3866. Any help will be greatly appreciated. (I'm got the 12600k and msi tomahawk ddr4 motherboard)
I am currently building my workstation (5950x/570/2x32G 3600 CLK18 atm prob go with 64 more, hopefully moderate timings in the end) ... this content is really helpfull, even for me "normie" ;-) ... Need longtime (5+ years) stabilty ... cheers.
so i have, 5600G , B550I AORUS PRO AX, G.SKILL, (2x8GB) TridentZ RGB 3600MHz 16/19/19/19 1.35V (Hynix C-die), have pushed FCLK to 1900Mhz, RAM to 3800Mhz with VSOC 1.1V and RAM voltage 1.4V 16/19/19/19, but i can't get FCLK above 1900Mhz with keeping 1:1 ratio, you stated that 2300Mhz should be possible, that is with 1:1ration? I did tried all the suggestons from 1usmus RAM OC tool and even went very loose 20/25/25/25, but it will not boot up with anything above 1900Mhz FCLK/RAM. what am i missing?
Hello BZ I think that when people ask you for a video about how ram OCing works you could just wrap a video about actual math rules like the one you explain at 26:03 bc thats the knowledge we are missing
darn, wish I had seen that so I could have posted mine.. not that I have a twitter edit - holy crap I remembered my twitter login from an account I created.. uh.. a super long time ago, go me! When do we get part so I can send you my trash?? lol :D
Hello Buidzoid. I have a system with a "mutant" processor (interposer BGA1440 to LGA 1151). It´s a intel ES QTJ1, a 9 to 10 generation, with 8c/16t. There´s a problem with this setup, for some misterious reason, no one was able do reach more than 2800mhz. So now I´m trying to find good timings for the memories. The memories are XPG ADATA 3600mhz ( I bouth it thinking the system was able). Did you made tests with interposers or this memories?
Im running bottom of the barrel 3200mhz CL16 with fairly loose sub timings. But it does standard CL16 at 3200 and 1,35V so pretty average DDR4 to be fair. How much do you gain by tightening timings? Or going for 3400mhz at 1.5V? It probably wont do it anyways...
I have Corsair Vengeance rgb DDR5-6000 CL40 kit on my sistem. I'm using them at 1.26V and XMP enabled. CL30-36-36-72. Works perfectly on my Asus Rog strix Z690-A.
i'm currently side-grading from my 4x8gb 3200c14 g.skills to 4x8gb of the viper 4400c19. Is this dumb? Yeeah. Will i feel the difference in game? Nooo But it please my brain.
9:24 nope. Tfaw 16 at any micron (i have micron e-die) causes stability issues in testmem0.12 (extreme1anta) and probably in any mem stress test.. i have trrds5, trrdl9, tfaw32, tfaw30 issues, trrds4 issues, trrdl8 issues.. so that's my micron e-die maxed
hello buildzoid. i have g skill trident z NEO 3600 cl 16 16 16 36 2x8GB. is it ok to mix it with trident z RGB 2x8 kit with the same frequency and the same timings.. cause i want to have dual rank set up. coz theres the NEO is out of atock here in japan. i jus wantt to run it on XMP. is there a performance difference in gaming?
is it normal for ryzen 5600 to have lower fclk then my 3600? just got the 5600 this week its walled @ 3733 fclk i even tried abusive voltages still cant 3800, gave the wife the 3600 but i might take it back lol, overall the 5600 is faster but the 3600 sure gives it a run for its money with the 3800fclk difference. i'm bummed lol the 3600 can hit 58k reads in aida, still working on the 5600 but it just barely broke 50k, rest of the aida numbers are in favor of the 5600, especially latency, it shits on the 3600. moral of the story the 3600 is probably the best cpu on the am4 platform for what it was; even had pci 4.0 just that alone is wild. dont see intel cpu's from the same generation being competitive 10400 etc are trash.5500 is trash etc. its still an insane cpu, 3600's will still be used in 10 years easy, i consider them on par with gen 3 intel, ivy bridge was the last platform i used that was this good.
Man I’m glad I came across this video. My frustration may be in the damn ram I have. I have terrible micro stutters I’ve tried everything but swapping the ram. What ram for a 5800x3d should I buy. I don’t know squat about tuning
Can I post a link here without dots and slashes? I really don't want to register a Twitter account just for that, but I would really like to hear your opinion about my OC on a 64 GB Micron Rev b 16gb kit. I am sure you don't get a lot of 64-Gig submissions.
ive got a gibayte z690i and the 2x16 kit of bdie ive got that i know can do 4000+ at decent timings (ran daily at 16-16-16-36) the board wont post at below c16 or above 3600 :(
That was some merciless roasting. I was expecting c-dies! Gotta post my own shitty results on hardware I obviously didn't know enough about when I bought it :-D
Your content is not going so well because all your videos are unscripted, then you just ramble along and thing ends up 30-50 min long. People have jobs. Love you mate.
If you link outside You Tube content, some supporting link 2 u;r thesis, observation, point or point of contention, academically, its deleted by the You Tube system. mb
I'm confused why you wouldn't stress test with e core's on. If you turn them off for ram testing and not do a stress test how do you know they'll be stable?
16:30 Wait so that means I got lucky with my B-die 4000 cl16 and my 3200 cl14 kit both able to do 3800 cl14 with 14 TRCD's (technically the WR is 8) AND be able to run them both in a 4x8 config with the same (and even tigher) settings?
@ 36:23 of the video you mention that tWRTR (22-10) is not a thing on intel cpu's but I thought you had to change tWRRD (56-44) to change the numbers around. So should you just leave them settings on auto?
I swear BZ got into ram OC because he never closes tabs. *Googles something* "Thats stupid" *tabs away like he needs to keep that tab open for some reason*
wow. I do not feel as bad I expected to about my DR s8b overclock. Just a nice 4266, 18-19-19-44 (iirc). My motherboard doesn't boot 4200 for some reason but 4266 works fine so I'm fine with that. Just 1.41v ish dram. VCCSA at 1.25 ish and VCCIO 1.25. on a 10700K. It survives my Vega56 dumping heat in my small room. It's summer in my small room (28°C) and it's just spring.
Hello Buildzoid. I am the first memory OC. I in fact do not know what I am doing. I come to your videos to try and get an idea of what I am doing. Thank you for your feedback. I was having a ton of stability issues at a couple of lower timings, but I will definitely try disable ecores and come back. Thank you!
@@neilpirelli9240 are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe it?
Can you give some context? Assertions without explanation can be dismissed without explanation. 💩
first
Some extra information on DR vs SR:
ua-cam.com/video/25NW8cHNrgA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/1ZbxMh5xUOg/v-deo.html
tRRDs and tFAW:
ua-cam.com/video/GHfXRUPLj1I/v-deo.html
facepalm
Mom said it was my turn to comment first.
AHOC: "an earlier attempt was an hour long, I'll try not to make it an hour long"
Also AHOC: 49 minute video
Perfect video length imo
also AHOC: i need some low effort content
He could just upload his 60 min takes at 1.25x speed and come in under budget!
Edit: even 1.10x speed would get the same results :p
For all I can he can make these videos as long as Joe Rogan's podcasts lol
At least it's not 59. But I'm fine with 2hrs or whatever.
"Is the next set of timings interesting?" **views my tweet** "uhhh... not really"
fuck, I gotta try harder next time haha
I think you have stumbled into a great format for yourself; This provides structure so you end up getting a lot more coherent information out. Great stuff!
This a goldmine!!! More of these sir! Very much appreciated.
I think that doing this stuff is awesome and the time isn’t a big deal for me personally. Hearing what is good and what is the best options teaches us. Hopefully I can bring a kit to the table that’s impressive
Agreed I watch his videos during boring times so I have time.
@@WillFuI I watch his videos while I'm waiting for my system to post during ram ocing. I need to burn the time
33:21 if you want to skip to the most impressive OC. Spoiler, DDR5 6800 with good timings.
I would love to see more of this. Learned a lot from it and it's great for listening on the side.
Buildzoid Reacts: your shitty RAM timings
Low effort on your side, high reward on both sides. We get all the do's and don'ts that come up during your reviews. And I think this will be very popular for your channel. The amount of variety you will get with this is super valuable. It's why it's so hard to make over clocking videos teaching people how to over clock. Everyone want to have numbers given to them just to punch in and not understand how each system and situation is different. Every chips IMC is different, the platforms different, each component different. And all those differences show, and the mistakes you point out help us all ensure not make those same mistakes. I love it, keep em coming.
I'd like to see a part 2.
Massively enjoyed that. Part two would be cool, more random chips or sticks would be cool if there are more in the responses. Look for the 96gb lunatic...
Probably loads of revE Ryzen like mself already.
YES, YES, YES, More memory reaction/ correction videos please !
And definitely want my config to be rated by you! 4x8gb on X470 board :)
That was cool I definitely learned some things I didn't know before. Still the pcb breakdowns and the oscilloscope videos are my faves.
I feel kinda sorry for the last guy you roasted lolz
Awesome! Thanks for the walkthroughs! They were very helpful!
This was nice. Would personally like to see more of this.
If you get roasted by builzoid consider it an honor. Lucky bastards. Great video. Very educational. Thanks.
Great balance between Roasting and Rating :D
Yes I think this kind of video every once in a while is good!
I'm playing with my first bdie kit (2x8 - 3600 - cl16) on an Asus X570-I and 5700G.
I hope to get some good results so I can post something even if I'm a normie :D
how did it go?
Damn I missed this, it's a nice idea! Will you do another one of these?
Your comment about YT deleting links made me realize how much time and effort I spent for absolutely nothing, lol.
OC pics here, articls and forum posts there, and they just silently take it down? Would have been nice to at least get notified, even if it's to be told to forget about posting such crap on their platform, but at least now I know lol.
is the new smart thing to to set tras lower then the old trcd+tcl? It used to be that if you went below it there was a possible performance hit as the system can't really use below a certain amount and has to subsititue the number. But since we can't change trc is it smart to use that to lower it?
I really should have submitted my overclocks, 64GB of Kingston server CJR at 3800 C16 with ECC on is my favorite lol.
Awesome video! I’ve tried to understand timings better and this really helped me! I’d really like this as a recurring theme :)
Buildzoid being absolutely savage to his viewers. Love it! Slightly mean but very constructive
Gonna post my settings as well to get roasted :D (I hope)
It was really fun to watch. Might even help many people who get into RAM OC to see many configs with your comments. Moreee parts
Damn it I can't believe I missed this. Hopefully you plan to do this again soon. This was a fun watch and pretty educational.
will you do other episode of this format ? (if yes i would like to post my results )
Love your videos bro!!! Can you make one about DDR3 overclocking? That would be really cool
hello, one question, should I get a build with i7-12700 and ddr5, since it is said that the ddr5 are now not the best I wanted to ask you what I should pay attention to when choosing a motherboard as optimized as possible on the hardware side with this ddr5 technology in view of the future (even bearing in mind to overclock the RAM in the future to 6000 / 6400MHz)? if you can recommend some technical specifications, or what should I give more importance in choosing the mobo knowing that the goal is to get one that I would use with RAM banks more mature than I would buy in 1/2 years when the ddr5 will no longer be "immature". So hypothetically it goes better than the others with DDR5 of the future in practice😅. I ask you pk informing me I noticed a big difference between models of ddr5 motherboards, both for problems that some cards give and others not, and for better or worse optimization of the hardware. Thanks in advance for your patience :)
I think you should do this every so often, people learn a lot, and it's ez content for you.
You can't even post links to other youtube videos on youtube lmfao
but somehow the spammers still get away with spamming BS phishing sites... Makes ya wonder
I just met some strange stuff happening with my RAM overclock.
I tightened timings even more, at cost of bumping voltage from 1.45 to 1.47
But for some reason, my latency just tanked since my previous tests... From 57.8 ns up to normal 62.4 ns (and even up to 64 ns), which is not normal to happen for no reason
UPD... Found culprit = tSME was enabled. Disabling it fixed latency problems
This video helped me get my timing so much tighter than I even thought possible just by a side comment. Please do more.
17:00 just leaving a note for myself
Nice rant video!
Is 4200mhz cl16 good for a overclock it’s a patriot viper 4400mhz cl19 but wasn’t able to do xmp 1 but could xmp2 at 4266. Cl19 and 4266 cl17
Sorry buildzoid, but this is more like the community created a content for you, not like you created a content for the community. With all the respect, I don´t like this.
he noticed my spectek chips in the 2nd one, ill try the sub timings settings later on and report back, because this memory really hates going above 3600 or going below 21 in 3600 along with spitting anything above 1.4v giving me headaches for 2 days before settling on this one, then again the ram cost $65 converted brand new soo yea... to be expected i guess, thank you for the suggestions
also with thaipoon the memory type doesn't even come out, its just undefined and just says transcend, the only way to know is by taking a pic of the chip which i probably should
Can e-cores cause error to appear when they shouldn't? I was running HCI up to %1200 error free, with the 140mm RAM fan on about %50 PWM and I was getting 30 celsius msx temps on RAM. I then decided to turn the fan as low as possible and mem temps went to 37c max but I was getting quite a lot of errors on many threads in a short time just going from %1200 to %1300. Running 12700k stock. How is it possible it was running error free for almost a day at 30c max temps but at 37c lots of errors showed up in a short period of time?
30 to 37c is a big difference for memory stability.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Oh really is that so? Since this is my first rodeo OCing ram, having read on reddit OC forums I was under the impression that with B-Die those errors only show up at 45c~50c+. I'm on Z690 D4, 2x16GB dual rank at 3800-14-14-14-30 with very similar subtimings to the ones posted in recent Z690/D4 videos.
@@Ben-ld1qi it depends on the sticks and the settings you're trying to run. The more aggressive your timings the more temperature sensitive the RAM gets.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Alright thanks for clearing things up. Because I initially thought that there was something wrong seeing errors at 'only' 37c. I'll experiment a bit to see if I can run error free in the high 30's celsius with looser subtimings. Thanks again!
At this point, I would just like to have Buildzoid roast my ram. Gold.
I just picked up my first intel chip which is a 12600k, and can get 5.4 allcore at 1.275v on a 120mm evga aio!!! thanks buildzoid for the memory oc tips!!!
Crazy OC if stable
@@hopey1809 It works for Cinebench R20 and all the games I play.
@@LegionGamingTV which board do you use? I am wondering if it makes an OC difference
awesome content, once my new build ready i will *try* timing the memory. once done i will post it. anyway, thumbs up.
It'd be great to see more. A million identical B-die tunes might be a bit much, but there's a lot of potential in setups that aren't 2x8GB B-die. If you ever take submissions from the patreon discord I could post a couple...
part 2? id like to send in my cjr 3600 5950x timing.
Aww man too bad I missed this. My own full tune is heavily influenced on the knowledge I got from your videos.
I have a feeling lower the effort, higher the view time and counts.
Buildzoid and I ARE best friends :)
Damn I missed this, coulda shown off my Rocket Lake stuff
You know… I have an MSI x470 gaming pro and every time I touch the RAM timings shit goes haywire. 2700x, Trident Z 4133 CL19 2x8GB kit. I think I just killed my motherboard, it won't POST, it just blinks once after I press the clr_CMOS button.
I'm going to look through your videos for a good x570 board and see what I can impulse buy.
Oh I made it. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try 3600. And yes tRFC is on Auto, my motherboard is weird, RFC says 312 idk if that's ns or what.
Update: I hate RAM overclocking 😂, having trouble with stability no matter what I do.
This would be cool type of video to do about once a month.
Wanna part 2! Will be there another Twitter post for 2nd part or still the same as 1st?
Part two with focus on DDR5 would be awesome :)
Got my bdie run 5000 cl 16 @1.8v for pi benching and geek. 4800 cl 15 on 3d benchmark. Partiot viper 4400 eith cezzane 5600g, just posted late on tweeter. And yes i bought this ram upon seeing yours and my fellow teammates recomendation 🥰
23:14 my city now (full screencap actually had my discord handle in notepad), so scls anywhere below 7 would error. trrd situation is a product of my brainfart at the time. and no, tfaw anywhere below 42 wasn't stable... i don't even remember anymore if that was auto or like a few ticks below auto. a lot of ram i have (second hand ebay junk) does that to me, even on the 5700g. tfaw loose or straight out auto, errors otherwise (i actually grew to love ram that refuses to post at 16, usually means it can do 24 without hassle xd), independent of the trrd set. trfc is pitiful as frigg for 4gbit agnostic of vdimm, my 4gbit g ran 230ns let alone other microns (even cutdowns from 8gbit) that will do 200 and lower... and then you have 8gbit d which hangs around in the lower 200s as is (i think i tested that with my 2133c15 green mushkins?? 240ns on those), and 8gbit a which can run criminally low trfc, being the absolute bsod-ey system restore-y trash in all other aspects. cheers and thank you for the edutainment!
Ye do more of these videos. I like it.
PS: BTW you are right. Today everyone copies timings from guides or other people without understanding the relations b/w them.
I post links with my comments pretty regularly and only when the channel owner has it configured to auto remove or when you first want to check the comment it will get listed for you to approve or decline and only then will the comment not go through.
I also think that as long as you use UA-cam links to another video or channel that UA-cam will approve, not 100% sure though.
I know that UA-cam also has a blacklist for links they don't want you to use but I don't know which websites are on that blacklist.
Well it seems Patriot viper 8GB 4000c16 x4 =32GB DDR4, on my 570X ASUS DARK HERO , have two XMP , the 4000cl16 is great 2x8 sticks , not 4x8 , but 3600cl14 x4 XMP is the sweet spot , Time Spy CPU only test is 1488 with XMP , with my 5950X / 4090 is more than enough for gaming and day to day use.
13:18 I have zen+ cpu and anything above 3200 gets unstable as soon as the imc hits ~60°C Still, I can boot up to 3733 on very loose timings. It just isn't stable and gets even worse, when the cpu gets hot.
Zen+'s IMC is garbage.
t. Ryzen 2600/3466 CL14-14-14-28
1h of TestMem5 Extreme stable though!
@@Wasmachineman my Zen+ can boot 3733 c14 flat, impossible to stabilise though. but it can.
I got 2666MHz CL13-15-15-35-1T & 3600MHz CL16-18-19-37-GDM, better than stock XMP. :3
(kits are 4x8 dimms of Samsung C-DIE & 2x16 Hynix CJR)
I have zero clue on overclocking memory I've got Gskills trident z 3866. Any help will be greatly appreciated. (I'm got the 12600k and msi tomahawk ddr4 motherboard)
I am currently building my workstation (5950x/570/2x32G 3600 CLK18 atm prob go with 64 more, hopefully moderate timings in the end) ... this content is really helpfull, even for me "normie" ;-) ... Need longtime (5+ years) stabilty ... cheers.
im to scared to upload my viper 4000 c15 timings
The dry, biting humor in the intro was great 😂
so i have, 5600G , B550I AORUS PRO AX, G.SKILL, (2x8GB) TridentZ RGB 3600MHz 16/19/19/19 1.35V (Hynix C-die), have pushed FCLK to 1900Mhz, RAM to 3800Mhz with VSOC 1.1V and RAM voltage 1.4V 16/19/19/19, but i can't get FCLK above 1900Mhz with keeping 1:1 ratio, you stated that 2300Mhz should be possible, that is with 1:1ration? I did tried all the suggestons from 1usmus RAM OC tool and even went very loose 20/25/25/25, but it will not boot up with anything above 1900Mhz FCLK/RAM. what am i missing?
Hello BZ
I think that when people ask you for a video about how ram OCing works you could just wrap a video about actual math rules like the one you explain at 26:03 bc thats the knowledge we are missing
darn, wish I had seen that so I could have posted mine.. not that I have a twitter edit - holy crap I remembered my twitter login from an account I created.. uh.. a super long time ago, go me! When do we get part so I can send you my trash?? lol :D
Hello Buidzoid. I have a system with a "mutant" processor (interposer BGA1440 to LGA 1151). It´s a intel ES QTJ1, a 9 to 10 generation, with 8c/16t. There´s a problem with this setup, for some misterious reason, no one was able do reach more than 2800mhz. So now I´m trying to find good timings for the memories. The memories are XPG ADATA 3600mhz ( I bouth it thinking the system was able).
Did you made tests with interposers or this memories?
Im running bottom of the barrel 3200mhz CL16 with fairly loose sub timings. But it does standard CL16 at 3200 and 1,35V so pretty average DDR4 to be fair.
How much do you gain by tightening timings?
Or going for 3400mhz at 1.5V?
It probably wont do it anyways...
I have Corsair Vengeance rgb DDR5-6000 CL40 kit on my sistem. I'm using them at 1.26V and XMP enabled. CL30-36-36-72. Works perfectly on my Asus Rog strix Z690-A.
This is actually dank as hell. Who needs effort when you have fun ideas
i'm currently side-grading from my 4x8gb 3200c14 g.skills to 4x8gb of the viper 4400c19.
Is this dumb? Yeeah.
Will i feel the difference in game? Nooo
But it please my brain.
9:24 nope. Tfaw 16 at any micron (i have micron e-die) causes stability issues in testmem0.12 (extreme1anta) and probably in any mem stress test.. i have trrds5, trrdl9, tfaw32, tfaw30 issues, trrds4 issues, trrdl8 issues.. so that's my micron e-die maxed
hello buildzoid. i have g skill trident z NEO 3600 cl 16 16 16 36 2x8GB. is it ok to mix it with trident z RGB 2x8 kit with the same frequency and the same timings.. cause i want to have dual rank set up. coz theres the NEO is out of atock here in japan. i jus wantt to run it on XMP. is there a performance difference in gaming?
is it normal for ryzen 5600 to have lower fclk then my 3600? just got the 5600 this week its walled @ 3733 fclk i even tried abusive voltages still cant 3800, gave the wife the 3600 but i might take it back lol, overall the 5600 is faster but the 3600 sure gives it a run for its money with the 3800fclk difference. i'm bummed lol the 3600 can hit 58k reads in aida, still working on the 5600 but it just barely broke 50k, rest of the aida numbers are in favor of the 5600, especially latency, it shits on the 3600. moral of the story the 3600 is probably the best cpu on the am4 platform for what it was; even had pci 4.0 just that alone is wild. dont see intel cpu's from the same generation being competitive 10400 etc are trash.5500 is trash etc. its still an insane cpu, 3600's will still be used in 10 years easy, i consider them on par with gen 3 intel, ivy bridge was the last platform i used that was this good.
Man I’m glad I came across this video. My frustration may be in the damn ram I have. I have terrible micro stutters I’ve tried everything but swapping the ram. What ram for a 5800x3d should I buy. I don’t know squat about tuning
Can I post a link here without dots and slashes? I really don't want to register a Twitter account just for that, but I would really like to hear your opinion about my OC on a 64 GB Micron Rev b 16gb kit. I am sure you don't get a lot of 64-Gig submissions.
ive got a gibayte z690i and the 2x16 kit of bdie ive got that i know can do 4000+ at decent timings (ran daily at 16-16-16-36) the board wont post at below c16 or above 3600 :(
That was some merciless roasting. I was expecting c-dies! Gotta post my own shitty results on hardware I obviously didn't know enough about when I bought it :-D
Your content is not going so well because all your videos are unscripted, then you just ramble along and thing ends up 30-50 min long. People have jobs. Love you mate.
If you link outside You Tube content, some supporting link 2 u;r thesis, observation, point or point of contention, academically, its deleted by the You Tube system. mb
Any thoughts on 64gb on Ryzen 5000 series? Mix of production and gaming, seems 2x32 is the best way to go?
I'm confused why you wouldn't stress test with e core's on. If you turn them off for ram testing and not do a stress test how do you know they'll be stable?
My non-oc rig with 10400f has some shitty ram that cant go below like 735TRFC and thats @2666
I don't have Twitter, but wish I had seen this too get some feedback maybe I'll sign up for Twitter if you are doing this soon. So you have a discord?
16:30 Wait so that means I got lucky with my B-die 4000 cl16 and my 3200 cl14 kit both able to do 3800 cl14 with 14 TRCD's (technically the WR is 8) AND be able to run them both in a 4x8 config with the same (and even tigher) settings?
well if you shove enough voltage into B-die pretty much all of it will do TRCD 14. but with 1.5V or less TRCD 14 is very good.
What about some overclocking guides? DDR5 and CPU?
@ 36:23 of the video you mention that tWRTR (22-10) is not a thing on intel cpu's but I thought you had to change tWRRD (56-44) to change the numbers around. So should you just leave them settings on auto?
I swear BZ got into ram OC because he never closes tabs. *Googles something* "Thats stupid" *tabs away like he needs to keep that tab open for some reason*
do more of these
Any tips for 4 x 16GB 3600MHz bdie on X570 with a Ryzen 9 3900X?
Gigachad buildzoid doesn't care about your normie gaming setups lol
30:18 high FCLK => 5x check with linpack, if result inconsistent, then too high
wow. I do not feel as bad I expected to about my DR s8b overclock. Just a nice 4266, 18-19-19-44 (iirc). My motherboard doesn't boot 4200 for some reason but 4266 works fine so I'm fine with that. Just 1.41v ish dram. VCCSA at 1.25 ish and VCCIO 1.25. on a 10700K. It survives my Vega56 dumping heat in my small room. It's summer in my small room (28°C) and it's just spring.
Please do more of them, I think it's very useful
OH now THIS is a fucking great idea! Pick me next!
How do you reach 3600 on Zen+? I can't go over 3200 no matter what
damn i missed this post and i didnt upload mine and am actually proud it took me a while too lol
Great vid. I like this idea, I’d love to see more of it. As you say, it’s not so high effort but I still like it
But you haven't watched it yet
@@imadecoy. typical "first" commenter, he's just begging for attention lol