Why Nobody Plays The Egyptian Gods
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2023
- The End of Egyptian Gods
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Why the remake?
The original Why Nobody Plays The Egyptian Gods video propelled my channel at a crucial time and I wouldn't be here without it.
...but it's also a video posted by a very different Dzeeff haha
It was made by a much smaller Dzeeff channel on a bad microphone in a dorm room and I had a different, more jaded outlook on card discussions. It doesn't even have background music! While I know a lot of people loved it, to me it's pretty difficult to sit through and I've wanted to fix it for years.
MANY creators are embarrassed by their most viewed video and I understand that completely
I know not everyone will see it is a "necessary" remake but I think the videos are quiet different in structure, delivery, and quality.
Enjoy!
I totally feel you, my by far most viewed video is some random Adventure Time music video that has like 100k views, nothing else comes close
I was happy to revisit this video
but why mention dark hole and raigeki to slifer and ra and not obelisk, it does not target xd so those 2 can destroy him too
Man I miss the Old Dzeeff. You was brutally honest. It’s what got me out of casual mindset, and I think it’s what many players today need to hear.
The original was the video that got me to both subscribe to your channel and start becoming a better player, I'm actually hyped to watch this.
The original video has 3.1 million views 🤩
Someday I want Dzeeff to make a "Why somebody plays" video about a card that's played by, like, one or two competitive players but nobody else.
Collab with mbt about ghostricks
Good april fools inversion
@@gstellar96Nobody actually plays ghost tricks. The whole thing is a conspiracy made up by MBT so he can tech alucard into as many lists possible.
Didn’t Dzeeff effectively make that exact video with Offerings to the Doomed? It being teched in some Sky Striker decks?
I like that idea. A series on suprise tech cards poppoing up would be pretty sweet.
We live in an era where UA-cam video title can now give us nostaligic feelings.
"Dad why is my sister named Rose?"
"Because your mother loved roses"
"Oh ok, thanks dad!"
"No problem, 'Why nobody plays the Egyptian Gods' "
We are old. Thats why.
That space before the word feelings is aesthetic
I love how most of Ra's support is just a patch to fix what they broke. I'll still never get over how they took a card based on Ra, who dies and resurrects, the Phoenix, which when it dies, it's then reborn again, and a card that Marik exclusively summoned from the Graveyard; and made it so you cannot Special Summon it.
It's pretty funny that you need half a dozen support cards just to mimick the power level of Anime Ra, and despite this, it is still the weakest and least consistent God card.
@@vahlen5281 Yup. :/
Its okay tho, who needs Ra itself when you have Sphere Mode
@@tritone2276 The irony.
@@SakuraAvalon "no, grown up giant flaming chicken. I am only interested in your abilities as the egg! Begone off the field and take the opponent's monsters with you as tribute!"
Always sad that Sphere Mode ended up being an incredible powerful card but not for the reason Konami intended
I mean it was the way they intended it to work. The problem is that non Egyptian cards also can play it
the thing doesn't have a stipulation that u need to have OG Ra in the deck to play it, which is why it just ended up becoming Kaiju raised to the power of 3
@@therranolleo468it should,as a cost, add OG Ra on summon, then give it eff that you cant normal summon unless you tribute summon divine beast
@@justsightseeing1but that messes with its main selling point. And it counts as your normal summon as long you didn't use souls crossing. If it allowed you to add ra from your deck to the hand as long you meet the requirements. IE ra not in graveyard or banished. Then eh? Could be a funny way to end a locals or world tourney.
At least you can side ra against sphere mode.
Fun fact: Obelisk was actually playable in Resonators back when they were Meta in Duel Links, since Resonators could summon 3 bodies without using a normal summon and non targetable meatshields were hard to deal with back then.
It was always a fun guessing game in the mirror match. “Are they playing the brick that can beat me or no?” My favorite deck was thunder dragons but they struggled against resonators if you draw poorly. As dumb as it sounds I always loved the high risk high reward style of the deck even when the meta was invested with decks that got a bunch of shit for free.
Also counter Harpie Slash
Well resonators are in master duel
@@jeremybaker7963As a general rule; if it saw play in Duel Links, it's probably worthless in Master Duel.
Most things just do not translate to a far higher power environment well
It’s me, I am nobody. 🕵️♀️
Me aswell, i main a god deck
Real it’s so fun
Divine Beasts should have inherit protection. Even their normal effects got nerfed to the ground, Slifer not even affecting defense position monsters for example.
While I get that keywords are overall bad for card game design there is some aspects of hardwiring mechanics into certain types that Konami already does that could save card space at the very least. Like they could consolidate Tri-Brigade types (which have been common through the game's entire run to have cards that reference Beast, Beast-Warrior and Winged Beasts just they only got a concise nickname with Tri-Brigade) into calling them "Wild Beast Type" monsters and have a rule in the handbook saying, "Wild Beast type includes Beast, Beast-Warrior and Winged Beast Type". Or that silly thing with Illusion type where they ALL are seemingly going to be required to share an effect like they're Spirits or Geminis instead of an actual new type.
Just invent a new Monster Card type called "God Card" or something that has rules that govern how it can be interacted with. Link monsters can't be changed to defense position, so just put the universal God Card mechanics like Spell Speed 4, untargetable, etc in the rulebook.
@@Zetact_just called them the animal types
@@Zetact_well beasts are the actual animals... winged beasts are the flying monsters and beast warrior is the humanoid ones
@@nmr7203 Yeah because having cards that you LITERALLY can't understand without cracking open the rulebook is... Good?
I think it might be interesting if there was a extra deck card that could use the egyptian gods as discard fodder to come out and then give some kind of path to bringing them out.
I think this is the best fix, easily accessible extra deck monster that can search the god cards and/or any card that mention them, plus an effect to summon them ignoring the condition; either from GY, or giving additional normal summon without tribute, again, ignoring the restriction.
Because let's admit it, even with all that good stuff, god cards won't become meta anytime soon.
Honestly just make that card atem or call it something like the Will of the Pharaoh
I love how Ra's support just tries to give him back his anime effects. But I think if the deck could search mound of the bound creator they would have some easier time for god protection.
Terraforming i guess?
Just buy Raw. The guy said raw is weaker than obelisk or slifer. But he wrong. Raw is stronger than obelisk and Slifer combined
@@realofficialdjdemmerneckgamingI agree. Nothing is more satisfying than busting out ra with 20k+ atk, sacrifice it to gain that much lp, and board wipe with immortal Phoenix. (At the cost of 5k or less lp)
The DIVINE attribute should be treated like keyword abilities from Magic: the Gathering: "Monsters with the DIVINE attribute cannot be Targeted or Destroyed by Card effects. When a DIVINE monster is summoned, cards or effects cannot be activated. A DIVINE monsters summoning cannot be negated." That way, it would save on card text.
implying Yugioh would want to add more keywords in the game, it took us how many years to get "piercing" and "banish"
If that happened you'd have to ban cards like DNA Surgery
@@TBKOTOROB You wouldn't have to ban DNA Surgery and similar cards. An errata saying that you can't select the divine attribute would be perfectly fine.
@LordNinja666 are you smoking Space Crack (if so don't hold out on us and share it with the rest of us goddammit!!!!!!) . This is Konami were talking about here.
@@TBKOTOROBoh so a retrain? Dna overhaul? Or DNA transplant? Has a new effect of not allowing for changing to divine beast monsters and maybe it affects the graveyard too? It cannot change pendilums in the extra deck/spell and trap zone. Or maybe Im thinking too hard
Yugi made it seem so easy
My favorite Sliffer combo as a kid was summoning it and then activating the trap cards Light of Intervention and final attack order.
Man brings back memories...
One of my favorite things about Yu-Gi-Oh was when someoen did an honest competitive analysis and concluded that if the Egyptian Gods (as in, the 3 cards we have today) were actually released during the DM era, Obelisk would have been meta-defining, Slifer would have been strong but not unbeatable, and The Winged Dragon of Ra would still be terrible.
I really wanna see extra deck retrains of the egyptian gods just because I think the naming potential would be great:
Slifer the Synchro Dragon
Obelisk, Xyz Tormentor
THE LINKED DRAGON OF RA
Ra would obviously be a fusion. Marik even "fuses" with Ra when he pays his LP in the anime
Slifer synchro of 1 tuner and 2 non tuner..
Obelisk is zeus style summon on top of xyz with 3 materia (need some addition restrictions after summon)..
Ra is a fusion with 3 monster on the field with attack > 3000 (but as we know, burn yourself into 100LP on summon)
By name, I could use that Slifer to summon Zarc, I think
@@justsightseeing1nah Slifer would be the xyz.
Normal slifer gains atk for cards in hand. Xyz slifer would get effects based on how many cards it has as overlay units.
Obelisk would be synchro because he has the most protection, and most synchro boss monsters have protection/omninegates
@@raymoo8504xyz Slifer is just Jormungandr 2
Glad to see another of these. The duel replays are fun but discussion videos are the most interesting
Good video. I do want to mention though that Obelisk has gotten some pretty nice cards to support it. They aren't very good for Modern Play, but Fist of Fate, Ruin Breaking God, and Soul Energy Max are still very good cards.
Their effects:
Fist of Fate
This card's activation and effect cannot be negated. If you control a monster whose original name is "Obelisk the Tormentor": Negate the effects of 1 Effect Monster your opponent controls, and if you do, destroy it, and if you do that, for the rest of this turn, the effects of that monster are negated, as well as the activated effects and effects on the field of monsters with the same original name, then, if you activated this card during your Main Phase, you can apply this effect.
● Destroy all Spells and Traps your opponent controls.
You can only activate 1 "Fist of Fate" per turn.
Ruin Breaking God
The activation of this card, or its effects, cannot be negated, nor can its effects be negated. Special Summon 1 "Obelisk the Tormentor" from your hand or GY, and if you do, it is unaffected by your opponent's card effects this turn. If you Tribute 2 or more monsters you control at the same time to activate your card or effect, while you control "Obelisk the Tormentor": You can banish this card from your GY; banish all monsters in your opponent's GY, and if you do, inflict 500 damage to your opponent for each. You can only use each effect of "The Breaking Ruin God" once per turn.
Soul Energy Max
If you control "Obelisk the Tormentor" whose original Attribute is DIVINE in your Monster Zone: Tribute 2 other face-up monsters; destroy as many monsters your opponent controls as possible, and if you do, inflict 4000 damage to your opponent. During the Main or Battle Phase: You can banish this card from your GY; add 1 "Obelisk the Tormentor" from your Deck or GY to your hand, then immediately after this effect resolves, you can Normal Summon 1 "Obelisk the Tormentor". You can only use each effect of "Soul Energy MAX!!!" once per turn.
I played Obelisk in a Floow deck once. They were worried about Snowl, but surrendered after soul crossing
I did separate decks for each. Slifer and Ra were easy since they have archetypes tailored made for them. Ra support for Ra and Poker Knight for Slifer. Obelisk was the hardest. I ended up going with ABC. With Union hanger I could get the ABC fusion out and during my opponent’s end phase I could tribute it to special the separate ABCs for his summon. I used Union driver and platinum gadget to get them in the field and in the graveyard. Having foolish burial goods to dump Soul Energy Max into the graveyard, made his summoning way easier since I could do it during my opponent’s turn after tributing the fusion.
Perhaps the compromise is to re-train the Egyptian Gods as Pendulum monsters? That way you can maintain their main deck presence like the originals, and give them easier access once summoned initially? Pendulum summoning would also be a nice way to off set Slifer and Obelisk sending themselves to the graveyard after each turn.
Yeah but the problem with that is that if you're retraining the God cards; those retrains aren't God cards. They'd just be game original 3-tribute things that might resemble the God cards. And maybe this isn't true for everyone one; but to me, making the God cards' decks good at the cost of taking out the God cards is too big a compromise. Playing them is the only reason I care about these decks in the first place; not the other way around.
And at worst you could end up with something like the Gate Guardian support; which replaced it's namesake with something useful just to expose that the gameplay associated with it is still bad anyway. And as a cherry on top, the deck doesn't even play the legendary Gate Guardian.
They can't be special summoned tho
The biggest reason this won't work is cuz there'd be no more text space lol
@@Diamondr11BlueI fixed that
Then, they still need to be searched out. Making them pendulums is a bad idea
The god cards need support that lets you get them out with one card while acuring advantage. Something like their own version of Boss Stage which searches a god card on activation and fills your board with tokens every turn to tribute for them but locks you into only being able to summon divine beast monsters is the kind of power level that you'd need to consider playing them. And even then I think you'd need a lot more support.
I mean
I won't say it's good
But The True Name, with Convulsion of Nature... uh... "works"
Pay all your life till you have 100 life points
No card response
This summon cannot be nagated
Monsters cannot be banned
Summon 3 tokkens and if you tribute summon, summon 2 tokkens
What saddens me the most is that despite literally making anime Card of Sanctity real as Slifer support, still no one uses it
Revived Sky God is absolutely not Card of Sanctity (anime) lmfao. The difference between a Trap and a Spell is gigantic, and Card of Sanctity (anime) doesn't demand you play Slifer. So you can instead just draw 6 generically and kill your opponent.
@@WhipLash42oissue is your opponent gets to draw too... but to balance it. There should be a minimum discard one card to prevent a +5 and drop it to a +4 or potentionally a neutral gain cause your opponent might be at 4 cards.
i mean there is a CoS for Slifer to gain that much power... just have to use Numeron engine just to get that wow such attack points
@@jackryderproductions1030 Discarding one wouldn't nerf it at all. Consider graceful charity. Even if your opponent got to draw cards with it as well it'd still be busted since you can just use your extra cards to OTK or handloop your opponent.
@@majickman no Im saying a minimum of 1. So its not too much of a free +5. And its possible for some decks to be a a 2 card hand at the end of the turn. So now they're +4 in card advantage. They might of drawn their combo peices they need or their deck thrives on the graveyard. Its do I want to risk it. Hell maybe you discard before your opponent so they have a chance to ash it. But it gets played on the field so imperm would work. And maybe a hard once per turn... or if we do the anime one. Hard once per duel per player. Also maybe make it say theres no way to make it a quickplay just incase.
These types of videos never get old. Keep it up Dzeef! You're doing great.
Showing trishula as an example of monster that requires 3+ monsters, made me think of Barrone. It should really require 3+ monsters too. Without that restriction I'd argue it's ban worthy for being a way accessible and powerful extra deck staple. You automatically play it because nothing is comparable or better for just 2 monsters.
I wouldn't mind Baronne errata'd to need 3+ materials. Would be controversial for sure but certainly way more sensical than the Goyo Guardian errata (since that card was already power crept by the time of its errata so all it did was give less options for decks without EARTH tuner access).
The only time I have ever beaten Baron while it was on the field is when I ironically already had the obelisk out and there was nothing it could do
i definitely agree that these cards should get extra deck retrains. i can see obelisk also getting some representation for his Obelisk The Progenitor form from the spinoff manga where he's equipped with divine evolution.
since there's already some decent support for summoning these monsters, it'd be nice if they got a few cards that allowed you to transform their summoned forms into the extra deck retrains by paying some form of cost if they are special summoned, but no cost if normal summoned.
I think making them ritual monsters would be a big YES and being able to summon them back from the Graveyard would be equally as cool. Making a ritual to basically summon God! Also giving them new effects would be nice like monsters used for the tribute or Ritual summon can be special summon from the graveyard but banishing those card if they leave the field.This would actually make them workable!😃
I was playing the other day (pretty low ladder on Omega but still) and saw a zombie pile synchro deck that brought out slifer on my turn with the effect of zombie world + red eyes zombie dragon lord and honestly it was a cool deck to play against and the slifer destruction effect was a unique interaction to play around
So cool to see you revisit this video. I dont play Yu-Gi-Oh at all but your videos are so cool to keep up with
If I were to retrain each god card, I would try something along the lines of…
_Obelisk The Destroyer_ (DIVINE)
Level 12
Divine-Beast/Effect
_This card’s original name becomes “Obelisk The Tormenter” while on the field, in the GY or if banished. Cannot be normal set. (Quick Effect) Must be normal or Special summoned (from your hand or GY) by tributing 3 monsters from your hand or field. This card’s summon cannot be negated. If summoned, Cards and Effects cannot be activated. Neither player can target this card with card effects. (Quick Effect) You can Tribute 2 monsters from your hand or field; destroy all monsters OR Spells/Traps your opponent controls, then increase this card’s ATK/DEF by the total ATK/DEF of the tributes. This card cannot declare an attack the turn this effect is activated. If this card leaves the field: Add 1 DIVINE monster to your hand from your deck._
ATK/5000 DEF/5000
That name is closer to the japanese original one that says obelisk the Giant soldier. I'll work with your card.
We already have "Obelisk The Progenitor". There is also "Divine Evolution". Personally, i would retrain it into a Fusion Monster just like the Gate Guardian Support + Charles link 1.
Obelisk The Progenitor
Level 10, 4000/4000, DIVINE, Divine-Beast
Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) during a Duel you Summoned "Obelisk the Tormentor", by banishing 1 card whose original name is "Obelisk the Tormentor" from your field and/or GY. This card's Special Summon cannot be negated. If Special Summoned this way, cards and effects cannot be activated, also this card's name becomes that banished monster's name, and replace this effect with that banished monster's original effects. This card's activation and effects cannot be negated.
(1) Unaffected by card effects, except your cards that mention Divine-Beasts.
(2) (Quick Effect): You can send 1 Spell/Trap card that mentions this card's name from your hand or Deck to the GY; add 1 card with the same name as the sent card to your hand, OR this effect becomes that card's effect when that card is activated.
(3) If this card leaves the field: Special Summon 3 "Tormented Soul Tokens" (Fiend/DARK/Level 4/ATK 1100/DEF 600), and if you do add 1 Divine-Beast Monster from your Deck, GY or that is banished to your hand, then immediately after this effect resolves Normal Summon 1 Divine-Beast monster.
Then we can use this as a template for the other Gods having the same condition, protection (1), and floating (3), with a signature bonus effect (2).
Slifer the Sky Emperor
Level 10, ?/?, DIVINE, Divine-Beast
Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) during a Duel you Summoned "Slifer the Sky Dragon", by banishing 1 card whose original name is "Slifer the Sky Dragon" from your field and/or GY. This card's Special Summon cannot be negated. If Special Summoned this way, cards and effects cannot be activated, also this card's name becomes that banished monster's name, and replace this effect with that banished monster's original effects. This card's activation and effects cannot be negated.
(1) Unaffected by card effects, except your cards that mention Divine-Beasts.
(2) Change all monsters on the field to Attack Position, also negate the effects of monsters that were destroyed by battle or the card effect of Divine-Beast monsters you control.
(3) If this card leaves the field: Special Summon 3 "Sky Spirit Tokens" (Winged-Beast/WIND/Level 4/ATK 1100/DEF 600), and if you do add 1 Divine-Beast Monster from your Deck, GY or that is banished to your hand, then immediately after this effect resolves Normal Summon 1 Divine-Beast monster.
I believe the text can become shorter, but if you notice it's carefully worded so that you need to summon the originals, but even if you cheat these cards out they won't gain the bonus effect. They float to the original gods so that you include them in the deck, but instead of their own copy you can shift between an aggressive Obelisk and a control-ish Slifer.
Ra is a case on his own because he already has the Sphere-Ra-Phoenix loop.
You dont need the "this cards summon cannot be negated" the effect that stops effects from activating apon summon does that already
What the deck really needs are:
•Normal Summons that summon fodder that also give an extra normal summon.
•Something that searches any of them out, not just their own named mini archtype support.
•Something that searches out their cards that list their names.
I was thinking since we got Ra’s disciple; why not make a slifer and Obelisk disciple that are always treated as ra’s disciple so they can all summon each other. They could each be one of the above categories. Then if any of them are sent to gy; shuffle back all 3 disciples and add 1 to hand. Then each turn, the gods have a set up.
Ways to tribute enemy monsters is probably peak. People already run Sphere Mode to do this, just giving them a way to tribute using 1 or even 2 enemy monsters in addition to some of yours.
Since we're flinging out disciples, maybe that's the ability of Disciple of Obelisk. Something like "If this is the only monster you control, and your opponent controls two or more monsters, you may tribute summon a Divine monster using this monster and two monsters an opponent controls"
Maybe "The summoned monster cannot attack the turn you use this effect." if it needs a leash.
Make some other card, a continuous spell or something with an effect reading "If you Normal Summon a Disciple (or something to single them out), you may make an additional normal summon of a Divine monster" so an Obelisk Disciple isn't just a super Gamaciel.
And I dunno, maybe Slifer's Disciple effect is just draw 2 when tributed to summon a Divine monster. Make summoning Slifer off of only them a +2, which he kinda really really needs, and is a nice thing for the others.
WE LOVE YOU DZEEFF, NEVER STOP MAKING CONTENT AND NEW YUGIOH SERIES but please keep around saga and the wheel one i live for those every week
YES A DZEEFF DISCUSSION VIDEO. I really miss these old dzeeff discussion videos is what actually got me into competetive yugioh around late 2017
I appreciate this video alone for enlightening me that if you give Ra attack you MUST go down to 100 LP. I've been dueling my coworker and he just loves using his destroy monsters effect while giving him 3000 attack or something lol. He won't be happy to hear this.
Theres been so much Egyptian God support over the last few years that I honestly wish they'd just retrain them and be done with it.
Miss these types of video, bring them back!
Why am I just now seeing this video?! its been two months?! I wish no creators would do remakes of their favorite, older videos to give us a new outlook. The growth from now to til is awesome to see.
I wanna mention that I sorta successfully used Obelisk in a chaos frog monarch deck back in 2012 in local tournament play. Inzektor’s didn’t have an out to it so it wasn’t a bad card to use. That being said, it wasn’t LEGITIMATELY a great deck. But it was a fair rogue strategy for the time. As you mentioned, a 3 tribute monster is still tough to consistently play… even in a frog deck
Broo, treeborn frog before the update was crazy. I remember crazy econ plays and obelisk not being hard to get out. Def was rogue, but could honestly do really well.
@@Blitzeyou Exactly the kinda deck I used. Treeborn, Battle Fader, easily searched light and dark monsters with BLS and chaos sorcerer. I could fairly consistently summon Obelisk. Wind-ups were a tough match up but Inzektor players hated me lol. Again, DEFINITELY rogue and heavily dependent on my sides, but still a relatively successful competitive use of a god card lol
I hope we get retrains someday that give them some true boss monster potential
I found some success with both obelisk and slifer in monarchs when they got their starter deck support. but this was at the local level. Basically you use the dark and light squires with the trap card. and this lets you keep your hand size around 3+ cards because of Monarchs ability to search for resources.
Create a continious/field spell that does something explosive when a tribute 3 effect occurs that allows you draw 2 cards to offset the cost of tributing to allow you to keep engine. It would also give monsters summoned this way to become unaffected by card effects.
But long story short, outside of the bricking problem, reward the actual tribute effect. Or create monsters that do additional things when they are tribute material to god cards
I remember always making an egyptian god deck on the yugioh videogames and getting frustrated because I would always lose against the machine and not understanding why if I had the most "powerful" cards in my deck
Just like you, for years I've struggled with this. Crazy thing is, even when you use an ultimate strategy to get the god card out.... it's the moment you realize you have 2 cards left in your hand. The God is all you got
@@bakionigeri6414 Honestly, it taught me a valuable lesson. It doesn't it matter if you can summon a card with 5000 attack points and it even has a good effect, it it takes your entire hand to do it, it's not worth it.
The Aesir monsters were intended to be Synchro god cards, though the printed version did not include the DIVINE attribute that they had in 5Ds. As it stands, they are so low impact that even support allowing literally any Nordic Monster to end on an Aesir was not enough to make them meta relevant (even if a few nordic cards were played as an engine in other decks.
Maybe the Egyptian Gods getting their own Gullveig is an idea?
Earthbound immortals and Nordic gods are much better than overrated Egyptian gods.
@@Diamondr11Blue the Egyptian gods are some of the most popular cards in the franchise because there dope as hell
@@painvillegaming4119 no they aren't
@@Diamondr11Blue in what world are you living?
There a reason there were the cards reprinted for the anniversary
@@painvillegaming4119 and they're not good to play even with updates. Nobody plays them
oh boy, our yearly Egyptian god card video! I got my dinner ready yesiir
What I’d love to see: Extra Deck forms of the monsters.
Obelisk the Tormentor: Link Monster requiring exactly 3 Monsters and is a Link 5-6. It is immune to targeted effects and effect destruction. Treated as “Obelisk the Tormentor” while on the field or in the grave. It can tribute any 2 monsters it points to to destroy the opponent’s monster zones or board, but can’t attack; instead it deals damage equal to the attack or any opponent’s monsters tributed this way. If special summoned except from the Extra Deck, it returns to the grave during the end step.
Slifer the Sky Dragon: Synchro Monster requiring exactly 3 Tuners and no non-Tuners. Treated as “Slifer the Sky Dragon” while on the field or in the grave. Unaffected by non-targeting effects. Keeps all other Slifer abilities.
Winged Dragon of Ra: Pendulum Monster with the 3-tribute clause, and can be tribute summoned from the Pendulum Zone. Treated as “Winged Dragon of Ra” while on the field or in the grave. Has different form effects in the Pendulum Zone and the Monster Zone, and Pendulum Scales of . If destroyed, can be moved into an empty Pendulum Zone (optional). If special summoned in any way, it returns to the Extra Deck during the End Phase. You can only control one card named “Winged Dragon of Ra” at a time.
Ra shouldn't be a pendulum monster. Pendulums exist in the main deck primarily and hence, ruins the reason why we're changing ra to an extra deck card.
I wish they had the anime effect to be untargetable.
Well, with the exception of one very specific video on this channel.
You could run Slifer in a Domain Monarchs deck with fiends. It would be a hard board to get out, but if you got Domain and March of the Monarchs out it would give Slifer the protection that is needed. Then if you got Majesty and Mystery Fiends out you would lock the board. No special summons, no monster effects, none of your monsters can be targeted by card effects. If you opponent trys to out the fiends by normal summoning something with over 2400 atk, Slifer's effect come in and drops it by 2000. I'm not certain if there's many cards that can be normal summoned with 4400 or more atk.
Imagine having a normal summon for the egyptian god that dumps divine beast and add a card that mention "divine-beast" or a divine-beast monster's name. That would be so cool to have in the deck, it is exaxtly what it misses. Dump slifer, add revived sky god, dump ra, add ancient chant, dump obelisk, add soul energymax/ruin god. Lets call it "divine disciple" or something. It could also have less than 1000 atk to link it into almiraj for a spicy protection and have a banish effect from gy to either add a divine beast from deck to hand or dump a divine card from deck to gy (the opposite of normal summon).
it's sad that Sacred Beasts are more playable than the OG gods
Dzeef’s gf: “Honey it’s getting cold. If you don’t make a new video soon we’re gonna have to throw your blue eyes collector sets in the fire to keep us warm.”
Dzeef: “But i don’t know what video will make that much money!”
GF: “Just reupload one of your best doing video. But…be sneaky about it.”
Dzeef minutes later: “Hey guys…let’s talk some Egyptian gods.”
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And not to mention the original release of the Egyptian God Card's. They were originally meant to be collectibles only. This Card Cannot Be Used In A Duel.
So effects had to be figured out for them later on and so have suffered.
I still have a non-playable Slifer The Sky Dragon card. When I got the card it wasn't in the best condition but I kept the card cause back then one didn't come across an Egyptian God card all that often and even less often have a chance to own one without paying an arm and a leg.
Remember to keep in mind that this was back before any playable version's were released.
As someone who plays with the Egyptian Gods a lot, an extra deck monster would be amazing!
Try egyptian god slime
@@jamesparkes4062 I have and it’s just not enough. I meaning like a retrain for the Gods, but as extra monsters.
The quality difference between this video and the original is staggering. Great video as always!
I think what they really need is just a set up monster that passes their "heirarchy" from the show/manga to them again. AKA immune to effects of all non-divine cards and for modern times make it so they cannot be tributed either. And make it also lock you into only playing divine beasts this turn "You cannot special summon this card if you have special summoned this turn" and make it a 5 star with a summoning condition. and just for kicks give it god specific effects when tributed. Ra, set base atk/def to 4000, slifer, draw till you have 4, and give something else to obelisk (cant think of anything, but this sets all gods to 4k when summoned).
And we're back. I love to see it.
So, little bit of a fun story, I recently played against one of my friends who was running an Egyptian God deck (or maybe it was just a Slifer deck) and he had Slifer on the field, I was playing Witchcrafters. He had Slifer up to 10,000 ATK and went for the kill when I flipped Magic Cylinder on him. So basically how it was supposed to work in the anime, having a Magic Cylinder and needing a Spellcaster monster to activate it. Only difference was it wasn't DMG.
And everybody on the bus clapped.
@@itanocircus2077 😂 Good one, no one's ever used that before 👍
I enjoyed your content delivery, bro. Thankyou 🎉
They are not being called Slifer the Executive Producer and Mega Ultra chicken...
Egyptian God Slime basically nullifies the tribute costs if ran with metal reflect slime/reactor slime/guardian slime. Been using a Ra/Slifer deck in Master Duel and it's a fun deck, even if it is a bit glass cannon depending on draws.
Obelisk is supported with spells and monsters that summon more monster when destroyed, and Slyfer is supported by traps that counter spells and effects and use spells that add cards to your hand, and Ra is supported with life points and monsters and traps against direct damage and spells to add life points.
Really not at all. Especially the Ra part. Lifegain in yugioh is absolutely horrible.
Yeah, ra with life gain is terrible
Actually, i think ppl would figured out a deck to make things easier for then if they were not too weak. If they had the protection "Not effected by card effects" then they would be a nice card
In a majority of situations, they still wouldn't be worth the investment in an environment where zero commitment options like Accesscode exist.
Dont need to build your deck around it, doesn't strictly require your normal summon or being in your hand, can remove things just about as well, and can just beat over Obelisk.
Those kinds of outs are pretty ubiquitous and noncommittal, while also being just... A more consistent alternative.
It would be an upgrade, but not enough
I find it funny that they nerf the God cards than kept releasing OP cards and realised "Hey we need to give the gods support to keep up with the times".
I used to play obelisk in my frog-narchs in like 2014 and it was actually super good. Since it's pretty easy to get 3 frogs to tribute and his summon can't be negated it was a really solid boss monster when paired with LADD and narchs
The wicked gods need support cards and errata buffs.
make all 3 wickeds special summon by tributint any generic card on the field (like kaijus)
like make Eraser gain 1000 for yout opponents field and hand so it can be op, then it banishes stuff when goes in the grave or banished.
Dreadroot have its halve effect but also target and destruction protection
Avatar have it be like king calamity and lock your opponent out if action for 1 turn, and keep its atk def alteration and have it be unaffected by opponents card effects.
At last give them a 4th combined member called wicked creator with infinite attack and def but no battle damage. every either player end phase put 1 divine counter and if ya got 10 counters you auto win (cut final countdown in half)
Because only choosen people are able to control their power. Duuuh
If they had the support they had now back when they were first released they would have been great heck probably up until synchros they'd dominate and even the early synchros would struggle. Removal protection and otk capabilities in one deck was rare particularly the protection part and the removal that swerves all forms of protection assuming you can special summon
Obelisk was released in 2010, we were already in the heart of the synchro era when we got our first egyptian god card.
The Ra support is decent but Ra himself is also the weakest ironically, it's like they tried to make them as weak as possible on top of a really hard summon condition, we were already not tributing 2 monsters for cards, why would we suddenly tribute 3 for something that gets snuffed by a dark hole or a mirror force
I play blue eyes at my local and I add obelisk for a fun little combo where I use vision with eyes of blue reveal a blue eyes then special summon obelisk then if I have skill drain activate it (if it's not already active) then I keep obelisk on the field at the end step since his effect got negated by skill drain. Basically a way to cheese out and keep a 4k beat stick
Back in middle school slifer was my win condition, i was a big enough nerd to make a deck fully about powering him up, i usually 1 hit my friends if they had no monsters left lmao
Because nobody is worthy. If you try to play them you'll control and they'll kill you. Not worth the risk.
Would the Egyptian Gods be viable today if they all had their Anime effects? That might make them awesome again.
Bro if they had their anime effects , no one can beat them .
@@commentstealer4460 Their anime effects are bad. Tribute 5 for raigeki sucks.
@@benshiotsu8553 wdym tribute 5 for raigeki ? If your talking about Obelisk you tribute 2 to monsters to activate it's effect of either to make it reach infinite attack points or destroy all monsters on the field and deal 4000 damage to your opponent life points , including a protection from any card that would make it leave the field
@@commentstealer4460 Idk if you've played modern yugioh, but that stuff just isn't good. Tribute 3 for ns + 2 for tribute sucks. People don't even tribute summon nowadays. Monsters like accesscode or borrelsword walk over him easily. Tribute 5 for raigeki sucks
@@benshiotsu8553 after what you said , i don't think you ever played yugioh at all
Getting a set of god Xyz monsters would be kinda cool, and could keep with the 3 tributes theming
Alternatively, a set of Ritual retrains could also work. Gives them a TON of indirect support cards too
I've been playing Yu-Gi-Oh since before the game was released in the US and I recently got back into playing again and realized that the Egyptian god structure decks with some adjustment flows really well in my old school chaos deck. Tribute three monsters helps bring out my chaos monsters because in my experience people are apprehensive about attacking monsters if they know they're up against a chaos deck so being able to tribute three allows me to bring out slifer or obelisk to bring out black luster envoy and others. I'm going to test it in a local next week and see how it measures up. Bare in mind I'll be omitting the use of a extra deck
Take your deck to the next YCS aswell.
A synchro slifer, xyz ra, link obelisk and fusion horakty retrains would be amazing
They kind of already did that however they attached all three two different archetypes in the not marked as divine in their extra deck versions
Nope. Leave those ancient relics back in Egypt
@@Diamondr11Blue they already created extra deck version of the god cards they are just not Divine attribute and they're all given different names and all three are attached to different decks so it's impossible to use all three in the same deck unless you want them to have no attack but one of them is literally still called the Sky Dragon but it's of the light attribute and from what I remember it's light and gold instead of red
@@noahcharles2571 it's still weak af compared to anything after it
@@Diamondr11Blue that's because everyone who uses them tries to use them out of their structure deck I don't know a single duelist that likes being locked to a single archetype just because their boss monster will suffer for it unless their role playing duelist which do exist
Konami came out with Face Card support to help Slifer and it includes a card that restricts you to only summoning Light Warriors from the Extra Deck. Konami then proceeded to _never_ come out with a new Light Warrior Extra Deck monster, including the set with the support itself, except that one Vsauce Synchro and some HERO Fusions.
It's very clear that Konami couldn't care less about giving the Gods the help they need and it's sad.
I’d like to see some fusion monsters that have the god cards as fusion materials like slifer fuse with dark magician or obelisk fuse with blue-eyes
To be honest, this remake felt nostalgic to the point i paused it, watched the old one, then watched this one. I get you don't "like" the quality of the old one as a content creator, but still it's a nice piece of YGO history.
About the Gods.
I consider the Gate Guardian support incredible for what it did to an outdated anime deck. And this could work with Egyptian Gods as well. The new Infernoble Link 1 is one of my favorite card designs ever because it isn't a cheap "fix every problem" link 1 like Striker Dragon/Bale/Infant (don't get me wrong, they were needed) but instead, it builds a true "boss" monsters through layers.
Ideally, the god cards should be retrained as Extra Deck Monsters (Fusions, but each one getting a different version would be funny) that inherit the name/effect and build upon them, like Charles. We already have "Obelisk the Progenitor" in manga, and "Divive Evolution" in TCG/OCG. A simple change to the "evolved Slifer" like forcing every monster to Attack Position would boost the original's destruction effect (2nd mouth attack).
They can even throw "The Wicked" series there since they are the DARK DIVINE counterparts.
They should make god card link 1 that require the god card w/ the orignal name as material.
So a monster that’s just as hard to summon as the originals? What would you do with the link?
But then that still requires you to summon the original card. I guess that dodges the self-destruct in the case of Slifer and Obelisk but that really wouldn't solve anything.
@@megaspacewaffles OK here's the payoff:
Unfathomable Spirit of Divinity
Link - 1 / 8000 ATK
Divine-Beast / Spirit / Effect
1 Monster whos original name is " Winged Dragon of..."
This cards' summon and effects cannot be negated. Unaffected by by all other cards' effects except monsters whos original attribute is Divine. Cannot be tributed nor used as Link, Xyz, Synchro, or Fusion material. When your opponent enters the Battle Phase, it becomes the End Phase. During the End Phase shuffle all cards banished and in the GYs into the deck.
@@TheForbidden0ne so it’s just an auto win?
Kaiju it or fucking die???
@@megaspacewaffles "cannot be tributed" so no, kaiju won't work :)
It can only be beat by the Egyptian Gods or an alternate win con (Exodia, Destiny Board ect.)
Some common reoccurring issues in the old comments section that I'm sure will reoccur in this one:
1. The god cards in real life aren't the same as the anime versions.
2. No, having their anime effects won't make them meta. At best that'd make them rogue.
3. Just because you personally got them to work in your casual matches doesn't make this video wrong. Take your brew to a YCS and let me know how well you do, then we'll talk.
4. No, you can't fix the issues by adding other cards to your deck assuming you'll just magically have both in your hand at the same time every game.
5. No, it's not because of the pace of modern yugioh. There hasn't been a single format in yugioh where the god cards would have been powerful.
@@omegalol7229 Admittedly I was being generous there.
Woaaaah a Why nobody plays Dzeeff video! Nice!
It seems like whenever i come back to this Channel, Dzeef is always talking abiut the Egyptian Gods.
As a commenter I just don’t understand
It's yugiho ur not supposed to understand
Hey man I saw you at the Columbus regional sitting alone. Where was you're wife??
That was not me lmao
@@Dzeeff Yes it was don't lie! Either way me and "our" wife had nice time while you were out ;)
This video is arguably the best remake in the history of remakes. Also I like the idea of having the Egyptian gods redone as like link 4 monsters Ra’s attack gain effect as an extra deck monster would see play as like an accesscode talker style of finisher… slifer would be good removal and Oblesk would be Zeus 2.0
If we're talking about these God expies as Link monsters, would Link 5s make more sense? Link Ratings seem to value at a 2:1 ratio to levels, i.e. a Link-3 is about equivalent to a level 5 or 6 & a Link-4 is like a level 7 or 8.
So if you wanted to make something like the Gods in the link mechanic, that'd probably be something like a Link-5 with "3+ monsters" as material. That's what I'd expect anyway.
(Please note the following isn't a Meta deck I mostly just play them casually against my friends and not meant for competitive yugioh.)
I occasionally play them but my deck isn't quite up to par.
Mainly because I don't have any Egyptian God Slimes. Got plenty of Metal Reflect slimes and Reactor Slimes but no "E.G.S".
In my general opinion Egyptian God Slimes can usually make or break your God decks if your able to get one as soon as you possibly can while you have Mound of the Bound creator on the field.
As if u recall correctly it can protect level 9 (or higher) monsters you control from most card effects.and gives you A free God if Mound gets blown up.
Also handy if you have multiple in your hand as you nuke 1 get a free God then play the card again to protect your gods (or just your level 9-10's in general.)
But generally Egyptian God Slimes are very consistent to get out as you can sometimes if lucky get more then 1 in your following turns for as long as they keep making you get more tokens from Reactor slime as you get 2 per pop which almost ways results in either a God or E.G.S.
But depending on how you play your cards. (Pun not intended) you can make E.G.S your main beat stick on your side of the field while Mound of the Bound creator is active.
And if you combine mound with other equip cards and protect cards for E.G.S you can dish out Alot of damage with little to no retaliation depending on the deck your facing.
Especially if you equipped Mage power to him as he should get I think 1500 attack totalling him up to 4500 ATK if I am not mistaken.
It's been quite a while since I played yugioh so if not most of my knowledge on the subject could be a little off.
But play around with them in your deck on master duel and see how they work in some of your games, they can be pretty fun to play,.
The biggest flaw of the Egyptian Gods however has to be that even if you manage to summon one of them and successfully use it to destroy your opponent's Blue-Eyes monster, they can just activate Deep-Eyes White Dragon's Effect to Special Summon it and inflict 600 points of damage to you for every different dragon in their GY
What?
Actual ChatGPT comment
The Gods are too iconic to retrain them, with extra deck Monsters. Though part of me wonders what a Blue-Eyes Obelisk Fusion or a Dark Magician Slifer Fusion would be. If the Sacred Beasts got crazy support - including negates - the Gods can get an Infernity Barrier.
Ra should get a Gearfried fusion, haha.
Edit: I forgot that Immortal Phoenix Gearfried already exists.
@@addemac5353 Joey never used Ra, though. That was waking the Dragons.
I know you haven't made this type of content in a while, but I miss it and I miss you saying why things flopped, wanted a video for the crystal beast structure deck
9:24; 1 ❤ pot of greed used in conjecture w. Slifer the Sky 🐲 which is a great reason to return to my fav. card shop the best spell card fr. Legend of Blue Eyes White 🐲(2002) so t.y. 4 the inspiration.😊
My dad says this show is satanic, so I watch it.
That's not a good reason to watch it
Tell him to grow up
Bro you see all the Biblical signs happening before our eyes.
@@tampaxhero5176cope god wad
I feel that the Gods could also benefit from some Monstersupport. Like, Konami, give each of them a Trio of
Priestesses, (we need those Waifus in every Archetype after all) who summon their Conventsisters from Hands
and Decks, and also posess each an unique Effect that is tailor made to support "their" God. For Ra, maybe
some LP boost, to make the Normal Summon Effect more threatening, for Slifer/Osiris some extra drawing. Not
sure what kind of effect would benefit Obelisk most, but i am sure someone reading this Comment could tell
me. And if all of these hypothetical Priestess Cards share an effect that helps with a Bricked Hand, for Times
when we have drawn a second, or even third Godcard, that would be truly perfect.
Ra is the phoenix sun god maybe give it an effect that allows it to recycle itself from the grave. Obelisk is a war god so maybe give it an effect that allows it to special summon tokens to the field and tribute them to activate special effects. Slifer is osiris, the god of the underworld. Maybe give it an effect that's activatable in the graveyard or even being banished.
Ngl, I hit the like from just hearing that shade spat at Mortal Kombat and CoD at the intro lol
Came here for some nerdin, but the spice is what got my like lol
Ahh, I must say that when I played obelisk in 2010, I use to use a RFP dd monarch deck that worked and kept reusing obelisks effect.
What a much needed remake!!
I think for ra, just some minor errata to give us more of a choice of how much life points to pay to give it attack points and when to use this effect and change its last effect from destroy 1 monster to a non targeting or destruction removal for both monsters and backrow could at least make Ra a better to use with its support.
Swap Ra's life point effect with ancient chant's effect of combining the attack points of the tributes.
Ra doesn't even synergize with it's own ability, you pay all your lifepoints for a monster that can't OTK and then it can't even use it second effect.
Like who gave the go ahead at konami for this awful design choice at the time?
I've made decks based purely around obelisk with all its support and slifer mixing it with monarchs and both of them have maybe around a 40% win rate at their best. Fun cards to play but the base cards themselves are so hard to work around and a retrain of them is 100% needed to give them even a fraction of what's shown in the anime
I have an obelisk in my light and dark which plays around with having cards in my graveyard removing them from play and bringing them back. As long as I have monsters in the graveyard I can special summon use them as tribute and rinse. Once he’s out, I’ll summon one of my three “ the calculator” and bam two monsters with high attack. (Old school deck tho)
I used to play resonators with obelisk in the deck back then lol, most of the time he was just a big brick, but when i did get him out it was always fun
This one is so much more educational and coming from a place of wanting to teach and explain over wanting to mock. Excellent video
I will always click on Dzeef discussion vidoes!