The Reverse Flash kills Cisco, The Flash S01E15 Clip
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- The Reverse Flash reveals himself as Eobard Thawne to Cisco, and kills him afterward.
FUN FACT: Eobard Thawne is only one of the Reverse Flashes in the comics, but in the DCTV Universe, it appears there is only one Reverse Flash who combines character traits of all Reverse Flashes.
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“Forgive me... but to me you’ve been dead for centuries..”
Damn
Forgive me... but to me you’ve been dead for centuries
@@Bmwm800 a speed mirage if you will
@@Gavin_Mcphail *mirage**
@@prot07ype87 oh
@@prot07ype87 mirage
"Forgive me, but to me you've been dead for centuries."
What a powerful line.
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@BarryAllen-Flash *852
@BarryAllen-Flash bro time travelled to the future to see this comment get 48 more likes
@BarryAllen-Flash so im guessing the reduction of likes on the comment was a result of you screwing up the timeline again
that is the most barry allen move in the history of barry allen moves
@@nightwing6287 *936
Easily the best scene in the entire show so far. The acting is incredible
I was about to write the same.. their acting is just so perfect in this scene..
I agree. But not for the entire show. There are many more amazing scenes on par with this in my opinion.
I have to agree. This is one of the most emotionally gripping scenes ever. Excellent acting.
This scene as well as the flashback when Thawn is watching over Barry in a Coma. He was a fantastic character.
5 seasons later, it still is the best scene in the series
I love it when Eobard Thawne says "Some would say I am the Reverse"
It's gangsta shit!
@@rodnicex like for 10 seasons pls
@@zoom8094 and each season will just be
Barry: i cant beat him/her, he/she is too strong.
*Inspirational speech from Iris*
Barry: GAS GAS GASSSS
r/FlashTV ran this one into the ground…GOOD TIMES 😂😂
@@phaserx3294 my least favorite part about the show lmao. That and Barry is stupid and does literally everything wrong
3:01 I loved how his voice breaked - he really didn´t want to do this, he liked Cisco more than anyone
Nice catch man I never noticed that
@@chan27leon me either wow
Also when he says “But your not that smart”
@@channelrob6927 2:47
I doubt that he even cares about Cisco anymore
That look on Cisco face, that tear gets me every time.
After 6 years i am the first reply
@@nkuniverse7856 better late, than never.
@@yacyuuzi indeed
@@nkuniverse7856 Indeed x2
@@yacyuuzi nice comment dude
How did the flash go from this masterpiece to now?
Grade E quality ahaha same problem with MANY shows outhere^^ (game of throne,heroes, prison break....etc)BUT sometimes a show can redeem himself like arrow season 5!!!
More like season 3 tbh.
More like flash season 5
Asha Anil season 5 is better then Season 4
Stopped watching after the second season.
I think this moment gave Cisco PTSD.
crypticbeliever123 You think?
This scene gave me ptsd
As far as present day Cisco is concerned tho this never happened thanks to Barry traveling through time
poker8100 he remembers it thanks to his vibe powers
crypticbeliever123 Actually it gave him Alternative Timeline Stress Disorder
This scene just goes to show no matter how evil someone is there always love inside them no matter how much they say they don't it's the most powerful emotion
Yep zoom was a fucking sociopath and was beyond messed up for killing and attempted at destroying the multiverse but he loved Kaitlyn very much and idk maybe would have given up being evil for her thier would absolutly be no redemption for him but he could try I guess
Very sad that they still get carried by hate
@@whogoncutdagrass41 There’s *secretly* good in evil.
emotions make you weak
Go say that to Frieza or Dio Brando
What a fantastic scene. Everything fits so perfectly, especially the music throughout. I don't know anything about the comic versions of these characters, but Wells, Thawne, whoever he is, hasn't been portrayed as your usual arsehole bad guy. He does have emotion, he does have feelings, and I'm glad they've done it that way.
You'll notice there's a similarity between Wells, Thanos, Wilson Fisk, and Abby. They aren't "bad guys," they have completely legitimate ideas but fulfills them in immoral ways. That's what makes them all time greats. As opposed to some schmuck who wants to "take over the world" for the hell of it.
@@iClone316 Yea but Wilson Fisk's idea was to kill a lot of people to basically burn down the entire New York City then rebuild it. Wilson is more like 2014 Thanos who decided to destory every living being in the universe so he can rebuild the universe while Eobard Thawne was killing his way to getting back to his timeline which makes him a better person then Wilson Fisk. I have absolutely no idea who Abby is.
@@nikthegreat4288 But it was Fisk's twisted past that made him think the city is mostly filled with people like his father. That's what makes him different aswell. Also Abby is the most controversial character in gaming history from a game known as Last of Us II.
At least in Game of Thrones you're psyched that every character will die, but this caught me off guard. One of the best episodes of The Flash.
Miguel Acón Indeed.One of the best so far.But I think the finale will be even better :D
You was right!
+Miguel acón
Game of thrones sucks!
Who is psyched?! xD
Captain Phasma JOHN CENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This scene killed me. I mean, there were a lot of hints that Wells is actually the reverse flash, but I always hoped that he isn't although he is clearly a time traveler.
RaitonUser i thought he was the older version of the flash
I kinda hoped he is Bart Allen or someone else related to Barry from the future. I really hoped he is Kid Flash
RaitonUser But his suit had been revealed as the Reverse Flash. If he was Kid Flash, why would he kill those people? He was evil when he killed Simon Stagg and his Reverse Flash suit was revealed in The Man in Yellow.
Yeah I know. I mean, the death of Simon Stagg can theoreticly be excused because Time and Time-Streams is kinda a wibbly-wobbly and Timey-Wimey stuff. But since they revealed his Suit I knew he has to be Eobard Tharne. I guess I don't wanted to believe that Harrison Wells is actually Evil/The Reverse Flash. But come on, I cant be the only one. This is just cruel. You are a Hero, and your Mentor is some Bad Motherfu**er!!! I mean, this is like if Obi-Wan Kenobi is THE Sith-Lord and he trains Luke Skywalker anyway to be the best possible Jedi ever, just so he can became the Sith-Lord... this is some wicked and cruel Sh*t, you gotta admit that...
RaitonUser I wished so too, I knew if he were evil he'd soon be gone from the show. His contribution to the show as being a member of team flash was really fun to watch and it seemed like he genuinely cared about Barry, his motivational speeches to Barry were just incredible and he was a genius even compared to the Cisco or Caitlin. Didn't want all that too end. I used to think he is a sort of like a anti hero who just takes harsh decisions upon killing people who can harm Barry. But I guess he sort of did started to like Barry Cisco and Caitlin it was just the future flash that he hated.
When hearing about the news of Arrow being cancelled
“Forgive me, but to me you’ve been dead for centuries”
to me arrow been dead since half of season 3
it wasn't cancelled. it just ended. they chose not to do another season.
Rittiron S watch s5
Batman Super Mans, green arrow what is the flash killing the speed force... What's next... Grown up Sidekicks?!
Accurate
This is arguably the greatest scene in the history of the Arrowverse.
IT REALLY IS!! S1- S3 were the best seasons. S4-S5 were good like a solid 8.5/10. But S6-S9 were so shit
Even this far into the show, this is still by far one of the top best scenes. The acting and being caught completely off guard with this is what made the Reverse Flash's saga so amazing.
I remember watching this episode. Man I was so sad that Cisco died and I was in shock. But when Barry ran at the end and ended up reversing time, I knew that meant Cisco was alive. This was an excellent episode. Especially with the look of shock, sadness and fear in Cisco’s face.
It was very good and clever writing, such a shame it gone to shit now FUCK CW
That first tear in cisco eye gets me everytime.
(when you know You're about die and u know theres nothing u can do about it.)
+yacyu uzi I think he was more hurt than anything. Cisco's character to me is child. He's just in a mans body. He shows what it like to experience everything for the first time. Learning your hero is not that awesome!
+fifi msp ahh nothing like your first time.
Demetri Rivers are you still alive
@@lafettesimmons6735 yes... I live
Demetri Rivers dang how do you feel that your comment is 5 years old
This guy is such a good actor sometimes I forget all the different incarnations of Wells are played by the same man
Tom Cavanaugh is a goddamned national treasure. Also JD's older brother in Scrubs, which holy shit caught me off guard. The man has range.
This scene had me in tears. I couldn't believe it and yelled at the tv! Amazing acting by both of them.
spoiler
he doesn't really die
Spoiler...
I know lol
ChoClateMilk2 oh.... XD
The Flash will never be this good again. Such a shame that the show has gone so downhill. Tom Cavanagh has done his best to save it with his brilliant acting & recurring role as the Reverse Flash...but he can only be as good as the show's writing.
True bro so sad season one and 2 were goatee
Agreed. Thawne doesn't even feel like Thawne anymore, he basically just has Zoom's personality now.
@@at5297 no
@@at5297true
@@tobsonasanya4765 season 5 thawne was also good .he was the only good thing about the season
Honestly how can some people consider zoom more savage than eobard wells?
Zoom is a psychopath and, at times, can't conceal it; in his world, he killed people for fun before getting his powers. With Well, who's a bad guy as well, but he's a scientist that's mostly a hater for the Flash.
its Eobard Thawne
tbh eobard never intended to kill barry or takeover the earth....he just wanted to go home after failing and being stranded; zoom on the other hand killed for fun and was killing people by the dozen to intimidate; basically, for reverse flash it was a personal matter with barry and zoom is just a terrorist
Canute87 I think everyone above me has already given good answers but I'll add my two cents.
Zoom is a sociopath through and through. He is cruel, sadistic, violent, manipulative, and has an ego the size of the planet if not more. Zoom's entire motivation is a seemingly pathological need to watch people suffer before they die (and in my honest opinion an effect of watching his mother beg for her life before his father killed her) and he enjoys it a lot. He also enjoys, like a true sociopath, the feeling of having power over others just for the sake of having it rather than for any other purpose. Which is what makes him terrifying. Zoom's only plan through out all of S2 is to steal Flash's speed to cure himself. Once he does that he goes back to do god knows what at E2. To put it bluntly, Zoom is the worst type of monster out there: the type that knows what he is doing is wrong according to the rest of society but doesn't give a damn and does it anyway because he enjoys it, not because he has some higher justified (or that he would consider to justify) purpose, which is the opposite of Thawne. For all his madness Thawne has always kept his motivations at the heart of his actions he wants to torture Flash because he feels betrayed by him, he feels the Flash let him down and so he decides to take revenge because of it. Petty true but still a core motivation and goal, unlike Zoom. Because of this Thawne is really not a danger to rest of the world lest that world conflict with his goals, if so good riddance. Thawne is really only threat to Barry and his friends and anybody who stands between him and his goals. Zoom on the other hand will just kill you if he happens to see you. Tell me with which villain you stand the most chance to survive?
To put it a hell of a lot more bluntly: Thawne in S1 just wanted to go home. True he did it by any means necessary but that is all he wanted. That was and remained his goal for the entirety of S1 until the end.
Zoom ended up wanting to destroy the entire multiverse for the giggles. No real reason aside from the fact that he will be responsible for the deaths of trillions, which no doubt was what he intended. But aside from that he had no tangible reason to do that, he gained nothing tangible out of it, he just murders trillions and feels good about it. Let that sink in.
Good day.
Machowesker17 Excellent synopsis and comparison: couldn't have said it better myself. A correction, however. According to pertinent psychology Zoom is a psychopath while Thawne is a sociopath. Same spectrum of Antisocial Personality Disorder, with Zoom at the extreme "hard" end of the spectrum and Thawne in the middle. Narcissists are at the opposite "soft" end of the APD spectrum.
Season 1 was truly a work of art
Truly was, shame to CW
@@rittis013 why are people saying s4 was bad
@@craahwilliams570 s4 wasn't even bad, I'd say it got bad at s5. People just can't appreciate the genius and motive of DeVoe's character.
@@anhedonia8037 ikr even s6 wasn't bad
Season 1 will always be my favourite Season of the Flash
Man the music combined with the acting makes this one of the best scenes i've ever watched in a movie or tv show.
Same! It's perfect!
He fucking nailed this part as eobard thawne. The cold, emotionless dialogue, the pauses he takes. This part was crazy good.
the way you can see Cisco go through 5 grief stages with little dialogue is amazing. 0:20 is denial as he realizes the truth but still "can't believe this" 0:39 starts the anger except part of him still sees Wells as his mentor so it's more like deep disappointment but at 1:30 the full weight of everything crashes down and that's when he really starts to react. at 2:18 he realizes he's gonna die (props to whoever decided to have Wells circle him like a vulture) so at 2:40 he enters the bargaining stage, giving Wells a reason to let him live. When Wells refuses, Cisco starts to cry (depression) and at 3:16 he reaches the point of acceptance
It always saddens me to see just how heart broken and scared Cisco was, this scene was probably the best one in the entirety of The Flash for me.
Eobard genuinely didn't want to kill Cisco. He considered him as his son and Caitlin is probably his step daughter as well. He doesn't what to hurt anyone, except for Barry, that's why he worked so hard to hide his identity so he won't be forced to hurt both of them. He only need Barry and I think he won't kill anyone if only his plans succeeded. Eobard was already tired and want nothing but to return home, killing for fun meant nothing to him anymore.
Stepdaughter 😭?
@@gamingsnake3881💀💀
I come back to this video FREQUENTLY To remind myself how good this show truly was
@@MrInky-xu1eu Yeah was
This scene proves Eobard is better than Prometheus.
prometheus is better, because he has at least a motive to kill oliver
@@Shamoneee thawnes motive was that his destiny was cursed, that he was fated to be barred rival, enemy, reverse
@@mardraa08 its a shitty motive and I cant take him serious because of that imo
@@Shamoneee mofo was destined to kill his mum. Also prometheus never wanted to kill oliver he wanted to break him bc Oliver killed his dad. Prometheus was a great villain but his reason to do that was a simple and overused revenge backstory.
@@mardraa08 yeah the motive is overused but it works unlike eobards motive which makes no sense in my eyes. Not the motive makes prometheus special, his methods and his obsession to break oliver makes him special
the doctor wells aka Eobard Thawne ( Tom Cavanagh ) is a really good actor i love this guy ..
For me one of the best you can ear the feelings in his voice
he deserves an Oscar
Edit : thanks 🙏 for all the likes never had that much ❤️
He's actually played three different characters.
There's the orginal earth 1 wells as...well
Now H.R. Wells so he's played 4 now and there all different, that's true talent
Sherloque - 5 characters :D
YES! He can play the evil Dr. Wells, the grouchy Harry AND the free-spirited HR and be able to stay entirely in character with each. He, Cisco and Joe are, in my opinion, the best characters in the show.
Bruno Fifa he’s actually played 7 diff versions as they searched threw the earths for more wells
☝🏽“An after image..a speed mirage if you will”... Tom Cavanagh is an incredibly gifted actor. That piece was oscar worthy 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
"I have been stuck here,maruned here for 15 long years"
absolutely. especially with his other portrayals of different wells
@@cyberneticmango7882 they're so different, it's amazing
I've been watching the flash seasons all over again. I can't believe how young and optimistic they were
Very good cinematography when Thawne is circling Cisco. He is circling him like a prey about to strike.
Cisco disliked it!
Wow, Tom Cavanagh is such a great actor he can even make his own speed mirage
Season 1 will always be the best
watch from 3:00 in 0.5 speed till the end and watch the feels flow through you :(
This is very true but if you watch it in 2.0 speed it makes you laugh
Tom Cavanagh gives us one of the most masterful psychopathic villain performances ever on screen as Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne. I’d compare him to Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter which is another LEGENDARY masterpiece.
Tom, your acting, is beyond our understanding…
Yea man, the way Reverse Flash is portrayed in the show impressed me a lot and made me overlook the silly nonsense part of the show. His vibration sound is so creepy and scary. Especially when he raises his hand. Although this power doesn't make sense.
I guess he is shredding Cisco's molecular structure apart. Maybe?
He vibrates his hand fast enough to pierce through Cisco
Put of all speedsters thawne uses that trick the most
1:13 - Literally one of my favorite sounds...as well as one of the most haunting.
I didn't know notice that a few episodes after Cisco remembers his death because of his powers. He basically Vibes what happens in that other timeline
Friendly reminder that this was the original cisco. Yes the character itself stayed the same throughout all the seasons, but the original cisco like the first one we came to love died here and never came back. Never got his powers, never got his girlfriend(s), and never even got to save the world the first time. This was the end of the first Cisco's story.
Episode 15 is a banger in every season. Can't wait for 8x15
This is sooo powerful and amazing every time. Amazing acting from both of them.
And also knowing how close they are off set with their goofy behind the scenes antics and their seasons greetings every season. No wonder their chemistry is amazing, as friends AND in a scene like this 😊
The flash season 1 was so epic, I watch those clips and I still want to go back and rewatch it. It's an absolute disaster what they did to the show and how it ended was an tragedy.
IMO this is still one of the highest points in the entire ArrowVerse. The dynamic between Cisco and Thawne was incredible. While it's of course understandable that the show would focus much more Thawne's relationship with Barry, I honestly think it was to the show's detriment that they later neglected the Thawne/Cisco dynamic, also that they never even really tried with Caitlyn/Thawne. Cisco and Caitlyn both had been with the guy for years, and that kind of betrayal should carry a lot of more weight than when Barry finds out about Zoom betraying him after a mere couple of months.
Yeah. He's so heartbroken by this mentor and friend he's looked up to for so many years
This is just the best Arrowverse scene hands down. Conflicted Eobart in season 1 is light years away from cartoon villain they turned him to be from then on and Tom Cavanagh is a national treasure.
NOOO CISCO!!! NOOOOO!!!!!
+Rees Reynolds dont worry he is not dead
+MajdMH Halaby Halaby I know but it's still the saddest scene in the season :(
flash meeting his mom again made me cry
Issosad
:(
The flash is undoubtedly the best show I have ever seen, it makes me laugh, it makes me cry. I love it. It's all amazing. Perfect. We love the flash.
we share the same thing bout that tv show
this was easily the best scene for me because i memorized their conversation
That vibration sound from reverse flash is so satisfying to hear. ❤️
One of the best scenes from the entire series of flash and they are Best duo of all time.
no, it is the best
Most badass entrance ever. No fanfare, no epic music, no over the top schtick. Just a blunt sentence, and a very real threat.
They are playing his theme but it's still really good
Wells's actor is by far my favourite actor in TV shows.
His voice is amazing and the charisma is insane.
This show will never be this great again.
How could the writing go from THIS good to...... how bad it is today?
No scene Can even come close to this scene its the best scene the writing and acting and everything is just perfect in that scene.
The gravity of this scene is beyond amazing!
They’ll never be able to make this show as good as this ever again
You could tell Cisco was so scared I felt so bad for him because he knew he wasn’t getting out of there alive
Agh. I have a lot to say. first of all this director should have done all of the seasons. Second of all, reverse flash should have been in a later season. Look at this masterpiece. Best villain. Crazy good acting. Additionally, in a later season with more trust built up on thawne. The betrayal would have hit so much harder.
True. Even though this hits hard right now
3:05 that look in his eyes of confusion at how he never meant to grow fond of them! Gah this acting!!
Harrison wells was extremely bogus for killing Cisco even after he said he thought of Cisco as a son.
But hes been dead for centuries so yeah
thedccomic king it was still bogus
Harvey he's from the future...
At the original poster Cisco found a clue to who the reverse flash was he had to be killed to prevent further issues in getting back to his timeline which Barry kind of fucked that up and so did he... Point is reverse was trying to do stop being stuck and was trying to get back to his timeline to well get the might of his powers back... The said there was supposed to be a flash episode where something about zoom, reverse, and savitarr becoming one and well how barry saves the time force and runs back into himself but also changing Wally West from kid flash to the flash...
It made perfect sense. He literally said that he was sorry, but to achieve his goals he HAD to do it. Coupled with the fact that he has been dead for centuries. And all of it culminates into one of the best scenes of any media ever.
I still remember this like it was yesterday
Man... this scene still gives me the chills.
And this is why I was happy Barry went back in Time at the end of the episode.
Still waiting for Flash's redemption after this masterpiece of a scene
I really want to imagine Matt Lescher doing this scene rather than Tom Cavanaugh. Even though Tom and Carlos did great here. Since we see him as the Reverse Flash/Eobard Thawne from now on and not impersonating Wells anymore.
I personally prefer Tom Cavanaugh’s performance as the reverse flash. Just his mannerisms and his speech patterns give him so much depth when I think Matt Lescher lacks this is his more standard bad guy portrayal
@@a.g.4311
Both are great
Takes the cake for top villain monologue
season one was so good, evil wells just has the coolest vibe
Reverse Flash went from being unpredictable and intimidating to an absolute joke in the later seasons. Just frequently popping up to remind Barry that RF still exists.
At least in Game of Thrones you're psyched that every character will die, but this caught me off guard. One of the best episodes of The Flash.
Bro think about how much creepier this would be if it was the actual eobard actor
That be awesome because we’d see thawne interact with Cisco with his real face ! Plus maybe it would be even more dramatic and more exciting to see
This is the real eobard
@@kurtjeffrey8273 no thats eobard pretending to be wells. Im talking the one before he impersonated wells
I’ll never forget watching this episode when it first aired years ago
Yeh the reverse flash was born in the 22nd century but in the comics he’s born in the 25th
Tom cavanaugh is a power House. ..solid writing
When I don't clean my room my mom be like 3:18
Cisco I am like your father
Seriously though you can actually tell he does like Cisco and if he had the choice he wouldn’t kill him
if you listen close enough, you can hear cisco's heart dropping to his pants
*Thawne: in many ways, you have showed me what it's like to have a son!*
Proceeds to kill him...
Because he had to. He couldn't risk anyone finding out his plan and trying to stop it. But it hurt to kill him.
I remember this scene it made me cry when the episode it was in came out.
Voodoosan same!
Imagine being in danger and trying to run from a speedster
Impossible unless it’s Barry chasing u, he’d just stop look around for a sec and give up
I've always wondered if what he said about Cisco showing him what it was like to have a son was genuine.
I think he was serious about that.
@@twixological yeah, in Legends Season 2 when helping Ray in that NASA exploration mission, Thawne did mentioned missing his friendship with Cisco, Caitlin and others
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Yoo it’s been a year since I commented that 😭 that’s cool though I always figured Thawne liked Cisco etc
Crazy how this is the only time a speeder is shown to do a speed mirage so effortlessly, while others say that their speed isn't enough to accomplish it.
i think that the music doesnt receive enough credits
Question: How does the victim feel this death? How does getting your organs shredded at the molecular level feel like?
Extremely painful is my best guess :P
Doubt that.
At a molecular level you are smaller then pain receptors.
I imagine its instant death really.
Jireh Garcia when he someone does that movie, that persons heart beat instantly stops functioning and you basically drop dead
Jireh Garcia s
@John Ts For you.
Ezra Miller: “I’m not like the Flash at all. Some would say I’m the reverse.”
Cisco was crying cause he admired Wells (Eobard) and finding out who he really was broke his heart.
God I miss the earlier seasons of the Flash. Season one was just magical.
I was like, "No! This can't be happening!" Not to Cisco. He didn't deserve this! I just wanted to run inside there and protect the poor sweetie. Like, "NOO! Don't hurt him! Don't touch him!"
Damn one on one with a speedster is like the worst thing , You can't run basicly nothing you can do ....
U can fight
How are you going to fight someone if you can't touch him.
Batman vs Reverse flash
The Button #2
Yeah, apart from other speedsters the only characters in the CW that can stand up to him is the Monitor, Anti-monitor, Superman, Supergirl and probably Music Meister.
@@TheMVPSteveNash Thawne has even beaten superman. He mentioned in season 2 or 3 I guess
I like how zoom said even I'm not fast enough to do a speed mirage but the RF just did here
Wtf that makes no sense... since that zoom is like ten times faster than Barry in the beginning
Anthony Horvath zoom couldnt make a speed mirage on 2 different worlds is what he ment, eobard did a speed mirage covering 2 meters.
@dark zeratul Yes, due to tachyon enhancement
Then clearly thawnes faster than Zolomon
“Doctor wells is a great man”
Can we all just admit that sadly Cisco died like this in the original Timeline… 😬😔
We can all agree that first time watching this we were all screaming and bout to cry for Cisco
I had one of that dream and I was still alive
i know this is old but this scene still makes me cry
Idc what arrow fanboys say. Reverse flash is and always will be the best villan from the arrow verse.
This made me love this show so much. Honestly Cisco was my favorite character at this point and I was thinking if he really died then im done with the show. Lol
ICOMPLAINALOT yaknow well now he’s leaving sooooooo
How did we go from these writers to Eric Wallace and the JV squad in S7-9 😢
Mister Wallace promotes his original characters too much, CW doesn't care to up the VFX budget, hire writers that could push the title character in interesting directions, or remove filler plotlines and characters that satisfy no one but the most braindead consumers of modern media.
"I can help you" 🥺