Great conversation with Michael J White, Bill Wallace and Benny Urquidez and ... (part 1)
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- Опубліковано 12 кві 2019
- Conversation with Michael J White, David Wheaton, Steve Smith, Bill Wallace, Steve Sexton, Kenneth Nolan, George Chung and Benny Urquidez.
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This is cool. Michael Jai White was about 5 years old at the time they were talking about. He actually looked nervous in the presence of his heroes. Nice.
Michael Jackson white is in the presence of greatness true legends would have really cool if Chuck Norris was there and Don the dragon wilson.
Sorry Michael jai white.
It's true we have lost the honor code of conduct bushido. Today we have thugs who learned martial arts.
@@michaelhampton5828 Now now your talkin' raw here Michael God bless and keep it comin'
Because he is not a master but ok,,lol but he is always a talker and a showman thats about it
Don't let Steven Seagal see this.
He is not gonna be happy that he wasn't invited lol
Hahahahahaha 😂
Why...he taught them all how to kick.
@@yew2oob954 He taught my dad how to beat the shit out of baldness......he failed.
If he just had one amateur fight in his life they might’ve considered it.
@@yew2oob954 Seagal can't kick
Benny seems like such a class act guy.
He reminds me of Tommy Chong. Makes me wonder if he will toke a doob with me 🤣
Bill Wallace tagged me with a pulled roundhouse to the head at one of his weekend seminars in the 80's. One of the best days of my life. I still have a pic in my office of him stagging that same kick signed saying To Jim sorry about that buddy. 😄
Damn imagine being trained by all these legends. What I love most here there's no ego's and nobody is talking over each other.
True martial artists don't let their egos take over. Imagine someone like Steven Seagull here? Hahaha
So true I would like to be trained by all of these gentlemen.
oldskool warriors
One thing i like about the master Benny is he cover's everything and he congregate everybody to share their experience and not just himself his a true master of honor God bless and keep it comin'
I can see master Joe Lewis spirit joining the rest of the group.
Room full of masters. Everyone agrees with eachother. Room full of ordinary people. They all disagree.
Generation of the art of martial arts.
This is cool , real
Respect to all of you gentlemen
I love these kinds of discussions, great video.
Thanks all of you for giving this video to us.. Thanks so so much
Fascinating conversations with these legends
Thank you for posting this, this is gold...
gold?? platium this are warriors
If only I had more time to hear all these legends talking! O God!
the jet is really having fun. look at his smile
He's always smiling!
The room of legends
Greatings from Finland
Just watched the whole clip!
Bill Wallace looks like Helio Gracie
LOVE THESE PEOPLE.
Benny the jet is the real deal! Love all you guys, good stuff.
Wow just wow talk about a legendary Panel !
Anyone that grew up in the VHS era/Saturday Morning Kung Fu movies… these guys along with Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan (and many others) were the original “Avengers”.
I must have spent a hundred hours rewinding those movies to study their moves.
Thank you all for the hard work.
8 Martial art DONS! on this TABLE!! 🥋 #RespectOGS
So many good points
Evolved and adapted y’all ! Defense has to get better
Be a better version of yourself....thats very Bruce Lee
Well said Michael!!!!!
Michael White grew up in Bridgeport, CT, NOT NY. He started Kyokushin under the Mas Oyama family as I did. He got much bigger, physically, and Skill wise in Holywood.
Wow.
Well im happy to be A p.art.of his story...P.s. thank the boss
"I wish I had appreciated those days when I was living them." I can really relate to that. I started in the blood and guts error in Bill Wallace and Glen Keeney country, plus Joe Lewis was in our organization then.
That's OK you appreciated now that's what counts better late than never.
@@michaelhampton5828 Thanks, brother!
Benny is such a gentleman always . I just love him!
micheal also a great fighter sitting by warriors and legends and humble man deep respect
Things has it time and these men prove it,
Time also change the men
Legends
👌🙏👏
Times are changing and you need to keep up with the times all arts are ageless and should never be held back by tradition rituals or customs.
Always keep the mind open to learn something new 😉
I remember when i first heard Bill Superfoot Wallace whose that guy? then when i found out what he can do w/ his one foot kick i was astound this guy kick you like his slapping at your face w/out putting his put down for a few minutes what a feat that is i felt the energy of Martial Art God bless and keep it comin'
The legends of kickboxing
I was waiting for MJW to say he could kick anyone's ass on the panel.
I love benny the jet I love ❤️ he’s English and greatest martial artist
Damn I knew of Jet, admired Michael Jay White, and served Dave lattes one some weekend mornings. XD damn and I didn't know till watching this vid. Going tell him next week
Micheal looks like a kid in a room full of adults...lol…i remember growing up when you were around grown-ups, it was speak when spoken to and stay out of grown folks business. But man, this video is awesome. I would love to be there.
He looks bigger than all of them
@@dassolosyndikat5113 Testosterone replacement therapy at work. Most of those old timers have too much pride to hop on the juice. No shade to Michael he looks great for his age, but you don't get to keep that kind of muscle mass naturally even at his age.
I'll be doing the same thing in my 30s-60s. Rather be artificially strong and look young than be old a frail. Mike's got the right idea.
@@stevelethal2910 Also, Mike is way younger than all of them. He studied under Bill and Benny.
@@stevelethal2910 testosterone replacement therapy??
Legends + a joke Michael J. White.
If Benny or Bill was in their prime today.......I can imagine what they would do in MMA.
I see black belts today in Australia that are an embarrassment to wear the belt. No fundamentals, power, technique and knowledge of the history or respect.
A belt is a financial reward today. Sad 😔 but this is the trend.
Osssss
...should have had a professional interviewer to establish a narrative thread to regulate and equalize these comments. Bill always has been good at "filling" the holes. Mr. White let everyone else talk first. He can afford to since he the unique one in the bunch. Great energy. Tend to agree with his opening comments.
No this was fine it was more free-flowing this way
Superfoot is awesome! One thing I'm not exactly sure about, he mentioned how MMA you can get hit in the head a lot which can be bad of course, but then he talks about doing kicks to the head lol.
@ 6:20 Honor was never missing. Honor is something you cant really take away from humanity. We may not wear it on our portray like we use to but believe me these fighters respect and love each other. It is difficult to fight another man that's on or close to your level and not simultaneously have respect for that individual. They may be trying to kill you in the moment but warriors respect warriors.
Yo this shit deep!
I like about Michael Jai White say "That's what we say to our cjildren be better of hourself get belt to belt to ger better in life Martial Art is a way of life fighting in the sport is just a part of it God bless and keep it comin' Go go go westmintrteak and ask from my brother Freddy Fluchel thank you.
I don't like mjw saying he'd best Bruce lee. People tip toed around him when he was alive but said some naughty things after he died. MJW couldn't rise above it
He fought in competitions Bruce had demonstrations.
Except he would win. Even if he wasn’t as skilled as him, he’s still extremely skilled and weighs 100 pounds more. They have weight classes for a reason
MJW cannot prove he can beat Bruce. He can.prove he can.beat small great fighters alive if he wants to.
Then we could explore possibility he could beat Bruce.
Nobody thought of Bruce as a fighter when he was alive...it wasnt so much they tiptoed around him, they just didnt think about him as a fighter.
@@rickocconnell9056 Bruce never proved anything. The only advantage Bruce would have had was speed. MJW beats him in skills, size, strength and experience.
OSU 💯
Benny Urquidez real fighter BADASS!
It's true, the code is no longer in effect!
Michael Jai White would be the perfect Khushnood Butt if they ever make an Art of Fighting, King of Fighters, or Fatal Fury movie.
Where's Don The Dragon Wilson?
There are people to this day that have never fought in a ring that are better than any of you Foo Fighters you haven't seen them and you probably never will and your time
Hell most have never hit a bag
Like they mentioned to have all those legends in one room...chance of a lifetime that might never happen again. I would have had them sitting around a dinner table. Having finished a great steak and wine dinner.
Michael Jai White..nothing against him but....should he be there? Had he earned HIS tripes? To be sitting next to 2 of the best kickboxers ever? Undefeated. Should he have been in the centre seat? All I know about MJW is he studied maybe 10 MA and has black belts in all of them. But was he ever a champion on any level? Though, I'm not sure if the other men were champions either...except George Chung..forms champion..
He trained with Benny and Superfoot so yeah. Plus, they invited him. Do you want to tell them he's not welcome? I don't.
The only person that's missing is Chuck Norris
Yeah, wish he was also there
Absolutely Beny. There is NO CODE OF HONOUR ESPECIALLY IN MMA. It is very sad how MMA (MORONS MARTIAL ART) is mistaken as Martial Art
MMA is not an Art and I don't believe anyone claims it is, its a mixture of Arts which in themselves have codes and traditional aspects.
You refer to it as Morons but your putting each practice in the same basket and that is ignorent.
There are MMA athletes who conduct themselves with honour just like there are traditional Martial Artist who do not.
@@johnkennedy7368 correct MMA deserves respect because of the pain and punishment these people take and the training they go through is something most of us wouldn't do
Oliver enkamp is working to change that
And I would even say Raymond Daniels too
Michael jai white saying when he was fighting like he was in any of these guys level of quality opponents lol of course he has to talk himself up
i wonder if ip man can beat these guys up
KARMA: MJW dismissed Bruce Lee and basically said Bruce was just an actor. Now Michael is being dismissed as just an actor.
ego bullshit man
Truely MJW is a badass fighter. All martial arts can agree to me and that's why he is among the legends
@@phelixmaddox Michael jai white is a legit black belt but bruce lee will always be on whole other level cuz everything he does inspire the world and especially he is the greatest martial art of all time and I m not saying he is unbeatable but if Michael jai white really fight Bruce lee in a street fight and my money is on Bruce.
MJW never claimed to be a fighter out of respect for those experienced in full contact competition
@@SuperKamiGuruu MJW did say he is a fighter but not a professional fighter lol and MJW is a great martial artist but the thing he said about Bruce lee it make no scene and he say Bruce lee never have a spar or fight in his life and i mean bro seriously lol and if he know joe Lewis and how does he not know Bruce lee is a incredible street fighter????
mjw had no business sitting between those legends, he is just a movie star that claims he is a fighter, he is no fighter at all. hes always putting down van dame and segal and anyone else that will listen. so he has no right to be among thiese guys that are legit badass legends in their game.
Ahí falta joe Lewis el mejor alumno del LEGENDARIO BRUCE LEE
Billye Jackson is the best. Shut "the jet" eyes. Lol
This is the real Avengers in 60s 70s, the different between them and the present is they all worked hard to have their own superpower, , there aren’t any metal suits, spider bite, Space rays, Chemical drinks and thousand ages.. bla bla bla..
So , please have the highest respects to these guys sitting there.
Poor Mike sitting there with a bunch of punch drunk super hero's thinking damn they can't stay on topic from all the punches they took over the years, all still very dangerous. Michael is doing it right making movies and stacking cash.
What is J white even sitting there for lol
I don’t know about you but those three in the middle inspire me. Super foot and the jet saw Bruce Lee spar And Michael Jai White can really fight but so can Benny the jet and bill super foot Wallace.
I don't think Jet or Bill ever saw Bruce spar. Jet was a kid when Bruce was in his prime, and Bill didn't get along too well with Bruce.
Bill never rated Bruce and as far I know they never met. Almost certain Bill never saw Bruce spar.
Micheal J White should not have been sitting with those kings!! He was never a fighter.
expendables 4 lol
It would have been good to see Chuck Norris Bob Wall, Steve Muhammad, Vic Moore, and some veteran MMA fighters as well as reality based fighters, to round the discussion out. Bill Wolfe, Professor David James, Tim Larkin and Tony Blauer, to name a few.
Michael White has this uninterested look on his face. I bet he's thinking he can beat all these guys in their prime. Mmmmm maybe none or some of them. Just not Superfoot and Benny. Especially Benny. He wasn't just good. Benny was scary.
Why is Micheal Jai white there.
There chit chatting then comes this guy that can kick you at 12 feet with out a step or further how ever you want it ,(this is a real life person no fake) yes just like that movie dragons l think the only famous person to have seen him is Dan The Dragon . But not throw the kick .😁😁😁.
Bjj, wrestling, and cocky grapplers basically made fighting boring 👍
All legends except Micheal he is mediocre martial artist but a good movie starr. Not in the same category as the rest.
Bill Wallace was one of the most obnoxious and ABUSIVE people I have ever met!
MJW's emphasising becoming a better person through hard training...
sure, but you think you're training harder and with more commitment than the guy who's actually going to step into a cage in front of 1000's of people and potentially get badly beaten up?
MMA may be a sport, but is more of a test than 99% of martial arts practitioners will undertake on their path to 'martial enlightenment and character development' via training for nothing. Training for its own sake still has value, but let's not kid ourselves and try to elevate above those who put it to the test.
I think what he was getting at was the approach to hard training, not saying the training is harder. Wanting to be the toughest fighter you can be by testing yourself in MMA is probably the best way to do so, however, it does not mean you have improved any other aspect of your life. Look at Jon Jones, one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, but would you want to be him? My old Capoeira master fought in Vale Tudo in Brazil in the 1990s when it truly was anything goes. He told me that most of the guys who did it would go out and try to get in fights with random people in nightclubs so they could beat them up. My old BJJ instructor (an MMA fighter) also encouraged us to react with extreme violence if we were in any altercation in real life, and didn't see anything wrong with picking fights with people. Lots of hard training, no character development. On the other hand, if you use your training (whether in traditional martial arts or in combat sports like MMA) to explore your own mind and emotions and how they react to pain, exhaustion and adversity, it can be useful for all aspects of your life. I think MJW and the masters in the video are disappointed that this emphasis has been eroded a lot in martial arts training in general, because people are focused on being the best in relation to others, rather than the best they can be in relation to their own potential.
@@fo4357
That's all fair, but I would draw my conclusions from the majority rather than a few individuals who may be exceptions.
That being said, I think you're going to attract certain types of people to MMA vs TMA, so this would affect what you see coming out of the gyms and dojos.
I've certainly encountered plenty of highly trained TMA practitioners who are deluded about their abilities &/or are not really chill because they haven't had anything like a real fight, so their 'martial enlightenment' is not solidly underpinned with the confidence that comes with experience.
Some of what you wrote about used to happen with traditional karate in the early days too...
basically go down the street and get in a fight as part of your black belt test!
What did micheal J white ever achieve. What's he doing there.
Yea dont know why jai white is there he is out of their league, good bye jai white close the door on your way out please!!!
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh jai white caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
i wish Michael J White had competed he is also a great guy
Scott Atkins should've been invited
Why is J. White here? He's another one hanging with pro fighters and never played the game. Like Seagal and Jet Li.
Michael j white said he could beet bruce lee yeh right who's most of the mma legends look up to ....
that is because of his physical build that he said that as per the interview here where he had to get past leaning on it to progress.
I'd say most these guys would have given Jai a run for his money.
Jai ripped Van damme for being an actor and that's all then said he's an actor that can fight.... Yet has no proof of it 🤔
Van damme fought in competition like Jai did
Michael ego bullshit
White would have had 25 kg or 50 pounds on Bruce Lee he would kill Bruce Lee is he hit him it's that simple. It would be like Manny Pacquaio getting in the ring with Mike Tyson or Mayweather JR getting in the ring with George Foreman or Ali in their prime White they would get swatted like flies. White has trained and sparred with some of the best MMA and UFC fighters in the world and he is also a former student of Bill Wallace yes he is a little arrogant but even at 51, I would dare anyone of this forum to get in the ring and go full contact with him.
@@chrissymonds1845 do you compare weight disproportions in a fight in the ring? it is as if you tied the minor's hands or eyes. as an argument you give who trained with whom? turn off the PC
Mixed Marial Artists learn fighting but not martial arts. No development of character.
That's why master Tung taught the secret technique to Jeff over Geese because even though Geese was the better fighter Geese was hungry for power whereas Jeff wanted to develop his mind and spirit so in essence Jeff was the true martial artist.
There are Mixed Martial Artist who are good human being.
Unless you're practising your martial art because you need to use it martially (in war) then MMA fighters are actually coming closer to the character development that comes with that kind of training and testing.
Michael j white good actor but never compete professionally or challenging anyone he's practice martial arts but not a fighter like this legends
You know nothing he actually competed in kyokushin karate tournaments and one first-place many times. Stop trying to downgrade somebody when you're nobody.
sorry Michael J White is out of place and doesn't belong there.
Hmmm one of these guys doesn't really fit in here. The rest of these guys are of a different era.
mjw is ego bad man
MJW is not a living legend
He is in his own.mind
For those who believe that Bruce Lee was just an actor cuz he hadn't fights in competitions... MJW he would kill you if he was alive. I guarantee...
Doesn't matter if he s not envolved at tournament or belts he would destroy everyone at every weight and every class for the 3 reasons and may more I will tell now
One, Bruce Lee was too fast and had tremendous power despite his lil size. He could probably knock you out with one hit or two.
Two, Bruce was very intelligent and way ahead of his time. He discovered alot of things that were uncommon in his time. He knew where to hit, where to position his body, how to hit, how to move, where to move, etc. For example, he’d drop his lead hand slightly only to explosively jab you where you’re not looking. Most fighters aren’t smart. They’re just gutsy. They slug attacks until one lands. There’s little to no strategy in the martial arts world.
Three, Bruce was very adaptable. He questioned most martial arts. He got rid of flashy techniques and rigid styles. He developed his own unique evolving art. He took the techniques that worked for him and modified them. He took principles of different arts, simplified, and applied them. He was constantly experimenting and improving. He didn’t fight for sport. He fought in a no rules environment.
Most martial artists don’t question their systems. They just take a set style like kickboxing or Wing Chun, assume it works, and leave it at that. They don’t like to think or step out of their comfort zones. They’re not as creative and as versatile as Bruce.
That’s why Bruce is so talented. He didn’t care how big you were, how strong you were, how tough you were, etc. He had the knowledge of scientific street-fighting and that’s what made him such a rare individual. I’ve yet to see one fighter who could match Bruce Lee.
That’s one bad ass crew 💪🤜💥🤛