How to Build a Corsi-Rosenthal Box

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  • @NoelBarlau
    @NoelBarlau 9 місяців тому +270

    I made one of these on a whim about 8 years ago to deal with the spring pollen here in Georgia. Turns out I forgot to take the time to name it after myself!

    • @parislawrence
      @parislawrence 9 місяців тому +13

      same here lmao

    • @peterresetz1960
      @peterresetz1960 8 місяців тому +3

      Parallel engineering universe.

    • @CoincidenceTheorist
      @CoincidenceTheorist 8 місяців тому +4

      He even built his face into the unit. You can hear him struggling from rebreathing his exhalations.
      Osha has known how horrible this is since the org began.

    • @richardthompson6079
      @richardthompson6079 8 місяців тому

      @@CoincidenceTheorist Bizarre. So you guys really think surgeons, car painters and the entire silicon chip industry are all dying from 'breathing their exhalations'. When did this genius idea first come to you, given that masks have been used since the Civil War to stop the spread of disease?

    • @JeremyCaron
      @JeremyCaron 8 місяців тому

      First to publish gets the credit.

  • @georgewuzheer
    @georgewuzheer Рік тому +222

    Homie really testing the limits of his engineering degree here

    • @TheBeesox
      @TheBeesox 9 місяців тому +12

      🤣

    • @Raii_Chu
      @Raii_Chu 9 місяців тому +25

      he’s showing you a simple at home DIY project and you feel the need to insult him out of pocket? 🤔😵‍💫

    • @dewfall56
      @dewfall56 9 місяців тому +8

      He realizes that the mental preparation of young students produced by the department of education these days means this is about all most can understand.

    • @justindy333
      @justindy333 8 місяців тому +6

      🤣working alone while wearing a dust mask in what appears to be a dust-free environment 😂 cant make this stuff up 🤣

    • @darwinwins
      @darwinwins 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@justindy333you can see the second camera moving

  • @SalivaYOUTUBE
    @SalivaYOUTUBE Рік тому +65

    I use 4in thick filters for better flow and less stress on the motor over time. Also for everyone asking why not use filters on 5 sides, it's easier to find packs of 4 lol

    • @actionjksn
      @actionjksn Рік тому +3

      My furnace has a 4-inch filter box and they are quite a bit more expensive. I get a 2 pack at Home Depot for about $40. They do last a lot longer though.

    • @AaronAlso
      @AaronAlso 8 місяців тому +5

      I have been taping two 1" filters directly to the box fans for years. Not the cheap ones either; I find that a Merv 14 primary and a Merv8 pre-filter works really well to keep allergens down. Same fans, very little stress on the motor.

    • @NukeChiefMech
      @NukeChiefMech 6 місяців тому

      Stress on the motor? Ridiculous.

    • @RobinCernyMitSuffix
      @RobinCernyMitSuffix 5 місяців тому +1

      @@NukeChiefMech it is...
      If they would know a little bit about fluid dynamics they would know that the air resistance for the fan actually decreases with less airflow (i.e clogged filters), because it produces a lower pressure zone, which reduces drag.
      But hey. I'm just a guy on the internet.

  • @glenesis
    @glenesis 2 роки тому +81

    I've always just slapped a 20x20 furnace filter to the intake side of a Lasko, but I needed a solution for a larger space, and this is a great idea. Thanks!

    • @DistracticusPrime
      @DistracticusPrime Рік тому +13

      Eight months after your comment, sorry for the necro! I learned recently about fans and "static pressure". Anything that changes the intake vortex drastically reduces the efficiency. By putting the filter on the intake side, it should still work, but not well. That's why the box shape. Allow some space in the intake side to get more pressure.

  • @BigFrankieC
    @BigFrankieC 2 роки тому +120

    My only difference, was that my fan shroud was on the intake side of the fan. I used the other half of the fan box, and cut a hole in the middle of it that was 2 inches in diameter smaller than the tips of the fan blades. I think it might be a better shield to keep air from coming in the corners. I also used tape to shroud off the corners on the outflow side of the fan, just to be sure. I use 1" MERV 8 filters on the outside to catch larger dust particles and hair and stuff, then 2" MERV 13 filters for the inner core.
    When we have forest fires up here in Oregon, it really clears the whole apartment in short order.

    • @SalivaYOUTUBE
      @SalivaYOUTUBE Рік тому +6

      And we get the smoke from your forest fires in Idaho 😂😭

    • @BigFrankieC
      @BigFrankieC Рік тому +7

      @@SalivaUA-cam They're not my fires. Blame the weirdos who go out into the woods.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Рік тому +1

      ​@@SalivaUA-cam and in Utah, too.

    • @DistracticusPrime
      @DistracticusPrime Рік тому +4

      @@BigFrankieC I blame the weirdos who delay until the blaze is big enough to get federal money.

    • @BigFrankieC
      @BigFrankieC Рік тому +6

      @@DistracticusPrime I blame fire. I think that in this situation, fire's the real jerk. Stupid fire.

  • @TheLastHonk
    @TheLastHonk Рік тому +292

    I've been doing this for a lot of years to filter sawdust in a woodshop, I wasn't even aware it had a name lol. Who decided these guys were the first ones to realize a box fan with filters on it operates like any other commercial air filter system?

    • @feds27
      @feds27 Рік тому +71

      Woodworkers have been making these for decades. Not sure we should be calling these Corsi Rosenthal.

    • @wango556
      @wango556 Рік тому +28

      Because they made a video. Lol

    • @skeptigal4626
      @skeptigal4626 Рік тому +92

      Guy standing by himself wearing a mask has no credibility.

    • @markb6295
      @markb6295 Рік тому +22

      ​@@skeptigal4626
      More than you

    • @thefinerbs7157
      @thefinerbs7157 Рік тому +35

      @@skeptigal4626 it's probably in California. You gotta wear a mask while you sleep

  • @bubba8876
    @bubba8876 Рік тому +160

    I've been building those for years with five filters, feet, pre-filters and pretty white tape, it's actually called "The Bubba Box".

    • @truantray
      @truantray Рік тому +43

      Most home workshops used this for decades. Sad they felt the need to take credit for this.

    • @jhwatchlist6927
      @jhwatchlist6927 Рік тому +18

      @@truantray Making an instructional video to help people isn't "taking credit" for it.

    • @coya4321
      @coya4321 Рік тому +6

      would love to see an instructional video of this one that you make..

    • @croro7023
      @croro7023 Рік тому +36

      @@jhwatchlist6927 Naming it after yourself pretty much is….

    • @hometownmedic7355
      @hometownmedic7355 Рік тому +21

      @@jhwatchlist6927Slapping your names on it and repeating them over, and over, and over again is though, so there’s that.

  • @FCWW87
    @FCWW87 Рік тому +9

    Thank goodness our Uni’s are out their reinventing the wheel. Where would we be without them!?

  • @scottmcm6658
    @scottmcm6658 Рік тому +202

    How long ago did this become known as a Corsi-Rosenthal box? I built a super size one these 20 years ago using wood frame with casters to hold 8 filters and a 5000 cfm drum fan. It was big but it filtered a lot of air quickly in my workshop.
    The more I think about it and reed all the comments, Dr.Corsi being a dean of a College of engineering and a international expert taking credit for this idea is crazy. It would be like naming fixing a torn piece of paper with tape and calling it ".....'s paper repair system".

    • @espressomatic
      @espressomatic Рік тому +72

      Don't you love how this guy just loves saying his own name? And his build skills are up there with my son's - when he was 6.

    • @jonfranklin9361
      @jonfranklin9361 Рік тому +40

      We had these in middle school in wood shop in the 1990’s. This is not new.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Рік тому +31

      yeah...this is not new. Also, duct tape is not actually the best way to do this, you really need the aluminum tapes HVAC actually uses to seal ductwork. Duct tape dries out.
      Frankly, a better design is with two filters forming a triangle with the fan.

    • @metsrock15
      @metsrock15 Рік тому +12

      @@truantray Why would you think the triangle one is better? Curious cause I built a triangle one with aluminum HVAC tape and planning on upgrading to a square one like what is shown

    • @TheLastHonk
      @TheLastHonk Рік тому +25

      I was wondering the same thing, this is nothing new but they just put their names on it and act like they are the first ones to put furnace filter on a fan.

  • @bryanseitz8137
    @bryanseitz8137 2 роки тому +22

    Been making these for a couple years now. I use a sheet of formica cut to size for the top & bottom, and put 1/2" weather stripping around the edges of the fan.

  • @motomuto3313
    @motomuto3313 Рік тому +7

    These have been around for decades. I built 1 back in the 80's to clean the air when I was cleaning the basement where I lived.

  • @skaramicke
    @skaramicke Рік тому +14

    How did something this basic deserve a double creator name like that? It’s not the first time someone builds something similar.

  • @EMleRoux
    @EMleRoux Рік тому +55

    I can't wait for them to release the video on the Corsi-Rosenthal Paper hat. - UC Davis Engineers are on the cutting edge of innovation!

    • @vernpierce8836
      @vernpierce8836 Рік тому +5

      LMAO 🤣👍

    • @Leith-t4e
      @Leith-t4e 9 місяців тому

      What's up with the industrial mask? OH yeah it's California. Idiot capital of the world.

    • @cmleoj
      @cmleoj 9 місяців тому +1

      It’s a novel method to reduce viral loads in the environment, not sawdust.

    • @mylesdeportado2004
      @mylesdeportado2004 Місяць тому

      Doubles as emergency toilet paper!

  • @FCWW87
    @FCWW87 Рік тому +546

    I’m a woodworker, and I’ve been using this for years. My grandpa had one in his workshop back in the 80’s. So…. It’s just a redneck air filter, not a Corsi-Rosenthal box.

    • @iloveitUbet
      @iloveitUbet Рік тому +59

      This is the “it took a 1/2 million dollar education and pHD version.
      Btw: phd stands for post hole digger wannabe

    • @DR-cm4hi
      @DR-cm4hi Рік тому +8

      The two nutty-professors.

    • @yalejohnson4687
      @yalejohnson4687 Рік тому +9

      Nah he clearly invented it.

    • @JimmyRussle
      @JimmyRussle Рік тому +30

      @@iloveitUbet ok ill tell my robotics engineer friend he wasted his time and that his 300k job is for losers. I'm sure he will be happy digging holes, competing with illegal immigrants for jobs.

    • @iloveitUbet
      @iloveitUbet Рік тому +20

      @@JimmyRussle exactly you tell em!

  • @tobygathergood4990
    @tobygathergood4990 Рік тому +39

    Why not use a fifth filter element on the bottom as well and hang the entire filter box? I build filters for my shop like this more than 30 years ago using five filter elements. The fan was one of the old style box fans which were heavier and much more powerful that the ones available these days. I vented the fan into a duct I made from sheet metal to the outside. Instead of simply taping the filters to each other, I constructed a sheet metal frame with slide in filter element holders sealed with silicon "O" ring type gaskets. The entire thing was air tight except through the filter elements.

    • @Phalenx15
      @Phalenx15 Рік тому +2

      It's a great thought, but it is extremely dependent on how powerful your fan is. You need a certain amount of static pressure to pull air in, too much and your fan will actually pull in surrounding air around it without actually pullling all of the air through the filters and push it back out too easilyy, something people forget to mention. Imagine placing a plastic straw into a bag and you start sucking on it. Well, you mouth creates perfect suction, but fan blades attempting to pull air out don't. errors in curvature of the blades, etc, will not pull 100% of air through the filters. This is an easily provable experiment. Take a filter and place it in front of your fan where your fan has to push air through the filter. seal all air gaps off. If you hover your hand over the back of the fan, though it only pulls air in, opposite of the filter, you will feel air blowing backwards back towards your hand. Perplexing right? Your fan can only pull air once way, so how can it come back at you? That is all of the immense amount of air not being filtered and being backflowed.

    • @ModelLights
      @ModelLights 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Phalenx15 'It's a great thought, but it is extremely dependent on how powerful your fan is.'
      Exactly, but you have it reversed. More filter surface area means more area for the air to be drawn through. That makes it easier on the fan with 5 filters, not harder.
      Restrictions reduce as you add more pathways.

    • @corwind3888
      @corwind3888 Місяць тому

      What's the point of making one of these only to vent it to the outside?

  • @devilman3806
    @devilman3806 2 роки тому +25

    I made one of these out of wood years ago to help control dust in my shop.
    I copied the design from someone who didn't claim to be the inventor.
    Most people call this a "Box Fan Filter."

    • @johnklein338
      @johnklein338 Рік тому +1

      This one uses MERV-13 filters and is intended to filter virus out of the air, so its purpose is a bit different even if similar in implementation.

    • @linsen8890
      @linsen8890 Рік тому +11

      @@johnklein338 I built mine years ago and used MERV-13 filters. Woodworkers have built these for like decades. There's absolutely nothing nothing new that these self-important professors have built here.

    • @johnklein338
      @johnklein338 Рік тому

      @@linsen8890 actually important profs have saved countless lives. Sorry you're sore about it. Not sorry.

    • @linsen8890
      @linsen8890 Рік тому +9

      @@johnklein338 😂🤣😂🤣 I'm sorry that your reading comprehension is so poor. Not sorry.

  • @Foxxorz
    @Foxxorz Рік тому +14

    All I do is plop a filter behind the fan and the suction keeps it attached. Works decent to collect dust and is a lot easier to replace the filter.

    • @foobarmaximus3506
      @foobarmaximus3506 Рік тому

      Until the fan motor burns up. Yes, that is a great idea. Stand by with the fire extinguisher.

  • @muslehed
    @muslehed Рік тому +13

    Great DIY project. If I may suggest, use the other side of the box as a template and cutout the face of the fan. Tape that down so the sides do not create a space as with the corner pcs. Thanks for the video!!

  • @lintonrentfro
    @lintonrentfro Рік тому +99

    This design was in widespread use prior to 2020 when it was “invented” by these guys and they put their name on it.

    • @looncraz
      @looncraz Рік тому +4

      I was going to say, this was really common when I grew up as a cheap way to filter paint booths... and you can probably find many UA-camrs using similar solutions for makeshit paint booths as well.
      It's also really common to filter wood shops on the cheap...

    • @SilverBullet93GT
      @SilverBullet93GT Рік тому +1

      ​@@looncrazfun fact, they also invented the Corsi-Rosenthal mouth and nose muzzling device

    • @jasonwong7140
      @jasonwong7140 Місяць тому

      But don't forget this guy has a PHD!
      PhD: pretentious huge douchebag

  • @sango_wilko851
    @sango_wilko851 Рік тому +97

    I love how Dr. Corsi starts off by saying "What's become known as a Corsi-Rosenthal box" and then proceeds to awkwardly say "Corsi-Rosenthal box" more than a dozen times, it was like a comedy skit where can he work it in next. I remember seeing a bunch of these in New Orleans after Katrina in 2005 and the greatest benefit was that they use readily available materials which let people produce them easily in the close aftermath of storm flooding.

    • @tombiggs4687
      @tombiggs4687 Рік тому +17

      He jumped on the Covid Cult train in a sad attempt to make a name for himself. Sad.

    • @maxwellsmart3156
      @maxwellsmart3156 Рік тому

      @@tombiggs4687 At least he's trying to do something and not whining about having to where a mask or pretending that pharmaceutical companies making huge profits means that a vaccine is "bad".

    • @sango_wilko851
      @sango_wilko851 Рік тому +10

      @WeavingBird if I had tried to apply my name to a concept as trivial as this much less one that I didn't come up with myself I would have been expelled for violating the honor code. You're not talking about the discovery of some novel method for extracting DNA from a cell you're talking about pulling air through a filtration medium with a fan... something that was first done over 150 years ago.
      I can't imagine any scenario where I'd want to look at research into something generic like this from a specific person where I wouldn't just search for research done by the person's name. It's the exact same outcome - people find the research searching for your name with the difference being you don't have to name something after yourself which you didn't create.
      The culture in academia is bonkers, in my experience outside of government politics I'm not sure I've seen bigger egos present anywhere. I'd say the number of times the guy mentions it - even to the point of it being awkward - makes his intentions clear.

    • @ZxAMobile
      @ZxAMobile Рік тому +9

      I love how he is celebrated like this expert, but he has no idea what he’s doing. MERV 13 filters do not filter the “cold”. He’s using toxic duct tape to seal it, and no pre filter no carbon filter. It’s amazing! I’m not an engineer, just a nobody, and I know 10x more than he does about his own job! Amazing!

    • @siewkimng1085
      @siewkimng1085 5 місяців тому +4

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@ZxAMobile pre filters are not needed for merv 13 filters. Pre filters are only used to extend the life of HEPA filters.
      Almost all cold virus travel in aerosolized particles which just about any air filter will trap (they are relatively huge).
      HEPA filters also outgas, so that’s not much different.
      Carbon filters don’t actually filter particulates. It just reduces VOC / odor until it is saturated. Most air filters don’t have the carbon filters sized correctly for the CFM. So they don’t do anything after a while.
      Dunning-Kruger.

  • @hvacdoc
    @hvacdoc 10 місяців тому +6

    The balls people have by taking something that has been made for years and calling it there own

  • @loungelizard836
    @loungelizard836 Рік тому +15

    Nice idea, DIY air filter. Another neat trick is to wrap activated-charcoal fabric around the filters so you eliminate toxic hydrocarbons. I do this on all our AC units and circulating fans. Just shake or vacuum them when dirty, don't use water on charcoal cloth or you will lose the charcoal.

    • @catsfpv603
      @catsfpv603 9 місяців тому +2

      You can now buy air filters with an activated charcoal layer.

  • @TonyMueller
    @TonyMueller Рік тому +8

    Not sure when this was named after him... but I've been building thee for at least 10 years as a cheap option for workshop air quality. And it wasn't my original idea when I started. Pretty sure I saw it on a woodworking channel on UA-cam.

  • @TheSimoncio
    @TheSimoncio 10 місяців тому +3

    I did my own version of this box, I did add a UV 300nm light inside the box, pretty easy thing to boost the cleaning effect. Patent pending ;)

  • @scottallen5601
    @scottallen5601 9 місяців тому +8

    Wow a man that gets right down to the point no long winded conversation. Hats off to you sir very well demonstration THINK YOU !!

  • @alexrapada
    @alexrapada 9 місяців тому

    Used this method with regular air filters during renovations. Worked really well to keep the fine construction dust to a minimum. Also helped with my allergies during windy season.

  • @elmerkilred159
    @elmerkilred159 Рік тому +35

    The problem with this design is that the box fan is not designed to pull a static load. it's designed to move a volume of unobstructed air in one space. This is why sitting a box fan in a window doesn't run air though the entire house when you open another window on the opposite side of the home. The fan does not create enough static pressure. What you need to make this work efficiently is a tube-axial fan (drum fan) that is commonly used in forcing air through long large diameter conduit. It moves an enormous volume of air like a box fan, but it performs more like a centrifugal fan like on most HVAC units. Tube-Axial fans are used in paint spraying booths where the filter is placed directly over the intake shroud (Which, is already round). and usually have the motors located where flammable fumes cannot ignite with the electrical sparks that are created on the brushes with induction motors. The actual design of the "Corsi," fan is mimicking that of an exterior air conditioner heat pump housing. The box fan is a great idea until the filters start to clog, and the fan motor will burn out. However, for $65.00 it's not much of an investment to lose sleep over.

    • @geoncic
      @geoncic Рік тому +19

      That's exactly what I was thinking... and this is the dean of engineering that names a simple box filter after himself that thousands and thousands of people have already "invented" and built themselves to try to keep sawdust down in their hobby shops.

    • @linsen8890
      @linsen8890 Рік тому +6

      Well, woodworkers have been building and using them for years. I have a similar dust filter in my shop, built using two filters stacked, and I've been using it for years without any problems with the fan. They create plenty of pressure for this kind ot application.

    • @bandittwothree3765
      @bandittwothree3765 Рік тому +4

      excellent comment. Can a basic test of static load on a fan be done with a sealed box (or metered output), a manometer, and a fan? Trying to understand the concepts at play here

    • @billwall267
      @billwall267 Рік тому +9

      Good comment, thanks.
      I've done the two windows one box fan trick for years, though, and I can feel the air being pulled through the house. I'm sure a drum fan would be more effective but, as far as I can tell, a box fan works too.

    • @herrpez
      @herrpez Рік тому +11

      Thank frick someone finally said it. And like wph above said, that THIS guy tries to put his name on such an old DIY thing is something else. Incredibly distasteful if you ask me.

  • @1e2werks15
    @1e2werks15 Рік тому +2

    I have one of these running in my basement all the time except I used one 4 inch 20 x 20 filter on the intake. Great for kidney looping air to lower allergy particulates. My hvac guy said we have the cleanest air he has ever measured.

  • @ghassedir
    @ghassedir Рік тому +10

    For a hot second I was concerned that the pom poms were a required element and I hadn't secured any - but no, that's just a charming touch of school spirit. Thanks Dr. Corsi!

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek 8 місяців тому +3

    Take a shot every time he says Corsi-Rosenthal. Genius filter box though. I’ll be making one for sure 😊

  • @austinlyons2558
    @austinlyons2558 Рік тому +75

    The fact that you named this "box", after yourself is hilarious. Woodworkers have been doing this for years.

    • @RichardHarlos
      @RichardHarlos 10 місяців тому

      He didn't name it after himself. The fact that you assume you know things that you never bothered to research is pathetic. Stop making-up stories so you can pretend that you know what you're talking about. Here are the facts you couldn't be bothered to discover on your own. I share them here for the benefit of others:
      In August 2020, Richard Corsi, an environmental engineer and the incoming Dean of Engineering at the University of California, Davis, spoke with Wired reporter Adam Rogers about an idea he had for combining multiple store-bought filters with a box fan to improve the efficiency of home-made air filter designs. Rogers contacted Jim Rosenthal, the CEO of filter manufacturer Tex-Air Filters, who had collaborated with Corsi at the University of Texas and in the Texas chapter of the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America, to run some tests on a single air filter attached to a box fan. Inspired by Corsi's idea to use multiple filters, Rosenthal later came up with a five-filter design. **Rosenthal named it after Corsi,** although after a New York Times article mentioned the boxes by that name, **Corsi tweeted that Rosenthal really deserved the credit,** and that he preferred the name Corsi-Rosenthal Box.

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 9 місяців тому +4

      You don’t call a PhD "Piled high and Deep" for nothing.

    • @jamesrobinson9176
      @jamesrobinson9176 9 місяців тому +3

      Yup

    • @RichardHarlos
      @RichardHarlos 9 місяців тому

      @@blipco5 How embarrassed are you to realize that the guy in the video didn't name the box after himself? How embarrassed are you that you believed the commenter, whose ignorance led you down that path, and you weren't smart enough to avoid the trap?
      Probably not at all, because you likely share that ignorance. A smart person would realize their mistake and correct it. Will you? Probably not.
      So, maybe it's only the stupid people who refer to "PhD" as you do.

    • @cmleoj
      @cmleoj 9 місяців тому +2

      It’s for viruses, not sawdust!
      No woodworker thought this was reducing viral particles in the air.
      Source: I’m a woodworker.

  • @jtedd57
    @jtedd57 Рік тому +6

    ALL WHILE MASKED. THANK YOU. DUSTY✌️

  • @travelingman21000
    @travelingman21000 Рік тому +12

    During the "lock downs" the employer I'd worked for at that time had our Air Conditioning Techs (myself and others) build very similar device and installed in a building for our covid-19 positive patients and in their "wisdom" said we had to exhaust this now filter air to the outside. There was no upgrades allowed to the AC system in anyway. This was a state run hospital.

    • @tehKap0w
      @tehKap0w 8 місяців тому +1

      _"eject all that clean, filtered air outside at once!"_

  • @inkblue28
    @inkblue28 2 роки тому +15

    I built this a month ago, its been running by my front door to protect us from my unmasked neighbors. I also have a very expensive airmega coway. This works better! In my 1000 sq ft 2 bedroom on high speed I can get PM 2.5 and PM 10 to 0. There is no way my coway could do that. It's a little loud on speed 3 so most of the time its running on 1 speed. My dog also has unexplained environmental allergies so she licks her feet and has watery eyes. It's completely cleared up now as well as my own dust allergies. Thank you so much for this!! I got my filters from costco - 3m 2200 and the box fan from Walmart, a little under a $100. My husband has a CR box running in his office where he is the only one that is masked. We are both still covid free while his entire office has had covid multiple times.

    • @Hectoraka300
      @Hectoraka300 2 роки тому +8

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ypcomchic
    @ypcomchic Рік тому +8

    You can use less merv rated filters with thin foam to lay on top of them sprayed lightly with oil and that will attract and hold much more dust and extend the life of your filters. Just wash the foam and reapply the oil.

  • @kayakdog121
    @kayakdog121 Рік тому +7

    The inside corners of the box fan are what most people overlook. Its amazing how much unfiltered air gets sucked in there only to be blown right back out to become airborne again.

  • @007galaxie
    @007galaxie Рік тому +1

    What a great idea, wish I had stumbled across this video when all of those fires were affecting us in the Bay Area.

  • @ts109
    @ts109 Рік тому +7

    If you close the top off to 2 " smaller radius than the fan blade it will greatly reduce the vortices of unfiltered air from circulating.

    • @catsfpv603
      @catsfpv603 9 місяців тому +1

      Shouldn't an engineer know that? Especially the dean of the engineering school!

  • @brainwashingdetergent4322
    @brainwashingdetergent4322 Рік тому +2

    And here is an example of how an idea is taken, renamed, and then sold as new.

  • @RiffHarvester
    @RiffHarvester Рік тому +7

    I built a mini-Corsi-Rosenthal box. I used a 10" mini box fan with 10x1 mirv 13 filters. Worked decently enough even though the mini fan wasn't as strong as a full-sized 20" box fan.

  • @arcadegeek
    @arcadegeek Рік тому +43

    huh - weird, created during the "pandemic"? I saw 3 of these in our wood/metal shop in high school in the 1980s - yes - using simple box fans and air filters constructed exactly like this (using metal tape). Now it's someone's named creation? 👍

    • @iswm
      @iswm Рік тому

      yes, the "pandemic" significantly accelerated the transfer of power in our society to the useful idiots and communist busybodies who are now all stunning and brave geniuses, and in fact are themselves in all their sanctified glory, The Science.

  • @mattmilford8106
    @mattmilford8106 Рік тому +3

    I've done something similar as a dust collector by letting a single filter get sucked to the back of a box fan. I didn't feel the need to call it a Milford box 20 times in a video. LOL

  • @SamehKhan
    @SamehKhan 8 місяців тому +2

    I've never seen someone in a suit build something so complex. Wow.

  • @matthewpeinado2047
    @matthewpeinado2047 Рік тому +3

    Take a drink of your beverage every time he says Corsi Rosenthal Box.

  • @steveky7829
    @steveky7829 Рік тому +3

    I was looking into a basement filter for my wood working shop in my basement, 10 years ago. I built two of these they work great to get small particle saw dust out of the air... I don't even remember if I saw the design or just copied the way a commercial filter works. But they are cheap and work great, even if a little ugly...

  • @AdamsHangar
    @AdamsHangar Рік тому +5

    This is just a home made air filter that we all made years ago. There's no name to it, lol. This is a huge version. You can also just attach 1 filter to the intake side of the fan and seal it with tape. Done, and cheaper.

    • @aarondilley5266
      @aarondilley5266 Рік тому

      no actually. if this guy was any good at explinations you realize but its a stolen design. the point of four filters is noit that 1 wont work but that 4 has better air flow

  • @croro7023
    @croro7023 Рік тому +7

    Maybe I should stick a stick in some juice then freeze it and name a popsicle after myself. This box filter idea has been around forever.

  • @feds27
    @feds27 Рік тому +18

    Woodworkers have been making these for decades. Not sure we should be calling these Corsi Rosenthal.

  • @blessedandbiwithahintofmagic
    @blessedandbiwithahintofmagic 26 днів тому

    S4A sent me here, and I'm quite happy he did

  • @alals6794
    @alals6794 Рік тому +5

    For a city man such as myself, this is great stuff. I regret though that I only found out about this circa 2023 not 2020 but hey, I did buy myself 2 retail air purifiers and now I can afford to build my own. GREAT.

  • @artistlofter
    @artistlofter Рік тому +2

    This is exactly the same design as the Blueair 211 which I bought prior to Covid, many many years ago. The advantage of the Blueair 211 is it looks prettier, and is an off-the-shelf solution

    • @aarondilley5266
      @aarondilley5266 Рік тому

      i knew he didnt invent anything except another way to take credit for somone elses work I did not know it was commericaly available thanks

  • @espy0008
    @espy0008 9 місяців тому +22

    Dude watches a few videos on wood workers building shop filter systems then makes a video of one he made and named after himself as if he just invented something new. Really shows the value of college education.

    • @MannyDer
      @MannyDer 9 місяців тому +1

      prob in a room all by himself too, looking like a platypus or something.

    • @Spiritof_76
      @Spiritof_76 9 місяців тому

      Marketing. It's not who had the idea, it's who sells the idea.

    • @nomchompsky2883
      @nomchompsky2883 5 місяців тому +1

      that's how probably half of all "discoveries" and "inventions" are made... someone with an education sees something made by someone who is a real world pragmatic problem solver, steal their idea, maybe improve upon it, maybe not, then name it and patent it...

    • @espy0008
      @espy0008 5 місяців тому

      @@Spiritof_76 Edison....

    • @Spiritof_76
      @Spiritof_76 5 місяців тому

      @@nomchompsky2883 Got any statistics?

  • @hotkimchi5803
    @hotkimchi5803 Рік тому

    This is OUTSTANDING! I have asthma and am going to build this today!

  • @rogermccaslin5963
    @rogermccaslin5963 Рік тому +3

    People, myself included, have been making them for decades for shop air filtration. We didn't have a fancy name for them and no real engineering went into it, just that old "necessity is the mother of invention" thing.

  • @morgank.1249
    @morgank.1249 8 місяців тому +2

    The naming might be obnoxious but hey these are really good instructions!

    • @UNINOIZ3
      @UNINOIZ3 5 місяців тому

      Facts, I could give two shits if "woodworkers have been building these for years hurr durr" well one of them should have fucking named it already then.

  • @BGP369
    @BGP369 Рік тому +5

    building it in reverse to filter wood dust from a workshop is also effective, if the fan can manage over 500cfm. combine with a typical dust collection system and it will greatly help in air quality in the shop.

    • @foobarmaximus3506
      @foobarmaximus3506 Рік тому +1

      That makes no sense.

    • @Swish36
      @Swish36 2 місяці тому

      Yes, sucking IN the dust and blowing out clean air

  • @PatricioGarcia1973
    @PatricioGarcia1973 8 місяців тому +1

    I use this kind of system in my garage for painting, except I have the filters in a row and the fan pushing air out. I put them below the garage door seal, so it would be floor, filters, door. All the overspray gets trapped by the filters and not into the neighbors. For fan I used a radiator fan from the junkyard.

  • @45BradB
    @45BradB 2 роки тому +7

    My dad has been doing this since the 70’s. It’s not a secret amongst tradesmen working in enclosed spaces. Where do you get off putting your name on something that’s been around for 50yrs?

    • @truantray
      @truantray Рік тому

      He's a clueless academic who thinks he invented this and then has university PR promoting it to exploit the pandemic.

    • @tirdkat6104
      @tirdkat6104 Рік тому

      Guess your dad should have put his name on it and then repeated it over and over again.

  • @LakesideAcres
    @LakesideAcres 9 місяців тому +4

    This would make a good drinking game. Take a drink every time he says Corsi Rosenthal box.😂

  • @bobk3840
    @bobk3840 Рік тому +7

    Woodworker’s have been building these for years to clean the airborne dust out of their shops.

    • @iswm
      @iswm Рік тому

      leave it to academics to jack themselves off about slapping some filters on a fan. these people are beyond useless.

  • @wfdTamar
    @wfdTamar 10 місяців тому

    A variation of this is cut the filters to the shape of the inlet of a wall mounted split system air conditioner (which is usually on top of the unit out of sight). I have a HEPA and a carbon filter (for the neighbours wood heater smoke) on mine and it works really well. It has minimal impact on the air con and keeps the insides of it clean.

  • @jasonzhang7725
    @jasonzhang7725 2 роки тому +11

    This is excellent! I am going to put a computer inside it because I am sick of dust

    • @sander_bouwhuis
      @sander_bouwhuis 2 роки тому +1

      Wow, that's a great idea! Also, large fan will ensure good air flow for cooling your computer.
      Love the idea!

    • @cheponis
      @cheponis 2 роки тому +2

      @@sander_bouwhuis Actually.... it probably will NOT ensure good airflow. You would need to narrow the opening (Bernoulli effect) to get enough flow.

    • @foobarmaximus3506
      @foobarmaximus3506 Рік тому

      That is a truly bad idea.

  • @melcupcakeofdoom
    @melcupcakeofdoom 27 днів тому

    I'm looking at an MCAS diagnosis and thank god I found this

  • @colonelradec5956
    @colonelradec5956 2 роки тому +11

    i just took a filter and put it on a fan. worked like a charm. not sure if it will effect the fan life but... who cares for 24 dollars and 10 for a filter 😂

  • @cal30m1
    @cal30m1 Рік тому +3

    What my generation were doing in grade school is now a college level project…

  • @breilly2750
    @breilly2750 Рік тому +22

    So, you've managed to come up with a name for a contraption that's been in use for decades. Good job!
    However, when you take an existing design and call it your own, that's considered "plagiarism".
    Edit: There are videos I found promoted on this very page that describe how to make these contraptions that pre-date this video by YEARS.

    • @montee827
      @montee827 11 місяців тому

      Boy you are gonna be really upset when you learn what they are calling "tool with stone head". The youngsters are out of control.

  • @JWoodcock
    @JWoodcock Рік тому +1

    I made one of these in the past, so I think it's actually named after me my dude.

  • @dallasswim9890
    @dallasswim9890 Рік тому +10

    Thank you - was squirming about the price of commercial units. Q. Would removing the protective plastic cage from the underside of the fan increase efficiency?

    • @DistracticusPrime
      @DistracticusPrime Рік тому +1

      Removing the finger guard would not help, except by giving you access to improve the fan. If you can add a duct just larger diameter than the fan blade tips, that improves static pressure. This way, a smaller device can clean more air.

  • @RichCadwalader
    @RichCadwalader 8 місяців тому +1

    The Cadwalader Air Purification System: Tape the filter directly to the back of the fan. Cheaper, faster, and I did it 25 years ago during the Central Florida Muck Fires. My house was the only house in the neighborhood that didn't smell like boiled swamp.

    • @RichCadwalader
      @RichCadwalader 8 місяців тому +1

      Interesting, This Old House has a video three years older than this one building the exact same thing...

  • @RRaucina
    @RRaucina 10 місяців тому +6

    That's the Raucina/Ruby box invented 45 years ago by me and my dog. Except we did it right and kept the fan on its feet so it didn't start a fire when the plain bearing got smoked by laying it horizontally. So much for Universities.

  • @smeeglesapprentice1468
    @smeeglesapprentice1468 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Dean Corsi! I'm making one of these tomorrow as my grade schooler lost the masks not required in school COVID lottery.

    • @penguinjay
      @penguinjay Рік тому

      WTF, that sounds barbaric. Everyone knows that crap is all fake and gai, I've been saying it for 3 years. I'd be pulling my kids out of public school before letting teachers and admins treat them like stupid livestock. They are slow dripping the truth now though, and one day you will accept it was all fake and gai and meant to harm, I hope, and stop participating in the daily lie.
      I think for your kid it is better to teach them when following the rules is wrong, bc 100% adherence to the rules is not what kids should be learning. They would make perfect hitler youth though, as it was not only the rule to finger your neighbors for the stasi, it was considered Patriotic. If the rule is stupid and a lie or is in some way harmful, they should not be following said rule.
      Please stop going along w the nonsense, it's a mental illness to think face masks do anything but harm. Your kids are old enough to see you break a rule that hurts you and makes no sense. Just explain why you are breaking the nonsensical rule. Please do not be like Milgram's experimental subjects, 80% of whom were unable to say no, no matter the circumstance, as long as an authority figure was telling them what to do, they did it. Participants administered a shock that would end another subjects life, just doing their job. Only 20% were able to just say no.
      Idk if you saw, but a bunch of Nurses and hospital staff have participated in genocide bc they were unable to say no to administering Remdesnivir that killed patients. Good luck getting all the sheep to recognize they have put together the last piece of some evil puzzle that killed 10s of 1000s of people though.

    • @tirdkat6104
      @tirdkat6104 Рік тому

      The masks do nothing. Grow a brain.

    • @foobarmaximus3506
      @foobarmaximus3506 Рік тому +1

      He's more like Dean Martin IMO.

  • @dawnd2517
    @dawnd2517 2 роки тому +17

    Thank you for the video and detailed instructions! I looked around and wasn't able to find directions regarding the best speed at which to run the fan... low/medium/high? Also, how often should the filters be changed?

    • @GeeAre
      @GeeAre 2 роки тому +15

      I just searched a bit, and three sources said the filters should last 6 MONTHS, but if they look dirty, change them sooner.
      I also read that because of the noise, LOW or MEDIUM is good for occupied rooms, but running it on HIGH will "move more air" so maybe more effective on high?

    • @RJLalumiere
      @RJLalumiere 2 роки тому +7

      @@GeeAre is correct, it is a trade-off between noise and the Clean Air Delivery Rate [CADR]. Most fans will list dB for each fan speed and it may be worthwhile to include that in consideration when selecting a fan.

    • @emma70707
      @emma70707 2 роки тому +15

      Medium is usually the happy medium. You can find a number of CADR estimate papers online and there's a reasonable jump between 1 to 2 but less between 2 to 3 for most fans/designs. But if the room is unoccupied and if you want max cleaning for a shorter period of time (say a teacher who wants to eat in their room after students leave), definitely run it on max.
      Electrostatic filters are good for 90 days only, unfortunately. And you really need the electrostatic properties to catch virus-containing particle sizes of things.

    • @froggydoodle808
      @froggydoodle808 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@emma70707Do you mean they last 90 days if they're running 24/7, or they last 90 days regardless of how long the fan runs?

  • @NukeChiefMech
    @NukeChiefMech 6 місяців тому +2

    Agree. No reason for anyone to feel so magnanimous as to think this is an original idea that warrants naming after themselves. Ridiculous.

  • @wrenlittle8826
    @wrenlittle8826 2 роки тому +4

    I heard about this on NPR the other day found your tutorial and will thus proceed.
    The comments below are also very helpful.

  • @KeithHampson
    @KeithHampson 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this clear and helpful tutorial.

  • @TexMex421
    @TexMex421 2 роки тому +16

    Great idea. You could add cheap filters to the front of the expensive filters. Replace the cheap ones often.

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 Рік тому +2

      @Blank Name If the goal is filtered air for less money than no, it's more efficient. If the goal is just to move air, than yes any filter lowers efficiency.

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 Рік тому

      @Blank Name Why not just remove the one filter? You'll move much more air.

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 Рік тому

      @Blank Name What is the point of the air filter you built? How would I know that?

    • @aarondilley5266
      @aarondilley5266 Рік тому

      i do that to my aic because of the dods, the single pleat green ones fit over the good filters and save a forrtune

  • @Kevin-jf5bw
    @Kevin-jf5bw 2 роки тому +2

    drinking game: take a chug every time he says, "Corsi-Rosenthal".

  • @gethype5064
    @gethype5064 2 роки тому +47

    Just put my first one together!! I used black gorilla tape but look forward to making more with more fun duct tape colors. I like how you did your school colors. Very grateful for yet another tool to fight this pandemic.

    • @US2A
      @US2A Рік тому

      Fight the flu? Notice how influenza a and b disappeared?

    • @gethype5064
      @gethype5064 Рік тому

      @@US2A No cuz I had Flu A couple months ago

    • @US2A
      @US2A Рік тому

      @@gethype5064 it literally doesn't pop up on deaths anymore, hundreds of thousands died from the flu each year before covid, now it's only covid deaths.

    • @abbylynn8872
      @abbylynn8872 Рік тому +1

      School colors were great.... Dollar Tree sells fun duct tape as well as Michael's craft store if you're looking for local vs ordering online. I'm not a huge online shopper.
      You can also use any duct tape and buy craft vinyl from Dollar Tree and cover the duct tape to really make it uniquely yours.

    • @foobarmaximus3506
      @foobarmaximus3506 Рік тому +1

      This isn't going to help with any airborne disease.

  • @KDVoller
    @KDVoller 10 місяців тому +1

    This old house built the same thing over 3 years ago... We had one in out tack room back in the 70's. It didn't take an engineer to come up with it either.

  • @BrandtHambrick
    @BrandtHambrick Рік тому +24

    Dude is taking credit for something nearly every woodworker has "invented" when they needed it.

    • @montee827
      @montee827 11 місяців тому

      I wonder if anyone else has named something that has existed before? Something for me to think about at my next soccer game.

    • @BrandtHambrick
      @BrandtHambrick 11 місяців тому

      @@montee827 You should ask the British, who gave Association Football the nickname Soccer.

  • @cherylcobern4483
    @cherylcobern4483 9 місяців тому

    If it actually does what you say it will, this is brilliant..

  • @tfinnegans_wake6182
    @tfinnegans_wake6182 Рік тому +11

    This dude *loves* saying his own name. He thinks if he keeps saying it, we'll start to think he actually came up with this decades-old DIY shop filter.

    • @ModelLights
      @ModelLights 9 місяців тому

      Posted 'Apr 15, 2022'. But pretty sure it was actually invented on April 1st.

    • @jasonwong7140
      @jasonwong7140 Місяць тому

      He's pretentious as f

  • @williamsistrunk504
    @williamsistrunk504 8 місяців тому

    Do have to say, if you know what you are doing, you can move the cord to the top of the fan by moving the back grate to the front to allow for better seal to the box.

  • @joepauly2311
    @joepauly2311 Рік тому +4

    Oops, accidentally stumbled onto a Coof Cult video.

  • @gidgettrophy
    @gidgettrophy 9 місяців тому +1

    I built stuff like this when i was a Toddler.

  • @WoodUCreate
    @WoodUCreate Рік тому +6

    Wood workers have been doing this for many many years. How does someone put their name on something based on someone elses' design? How is this different?

  • @darwinjina
    @darwinjina Рік тому +1

    Watching the video since I think the idea is useful for those looking to reduce PM 2.5 (burning season pollution).

  • @davidfscott
    @davidfscott Рік тому +4

    lol the mask while filming. also, good drinking game for "corsi-rosenthal box", must have been said about 50 times.

  • @magic76767676
    @magic76767676 9 місяців тому

    I made a variation of this in 2020, speculating that COVID could be filtered out. I used it in my office to create a clean-ish bubble of air that sat inside of. Don't know if it worked but I'm one of the few in my office that never caught COVID.

  • @TheDrewbalicious
    @TheDrewbalicious 2 роки тому +4

    So. You watched the video from 'This Old House' & stuck your name on it. Interesting.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Рік тому

      This is the Corsi-Rosenthal video service.

  • @leebryton8613
    @leebryton8613 Рік тому +1

    I made one of these for my wood shop 20+ years ago.

  • @baldotcom
    @baldotcom Рік тому

    I never thought that an improvised air purifier would have an actual name.
    Learned something new today.

  • @sandyallen1523
    @sandyallen1523 Рік тому +6

    I have run a 20" fan with a filter attached to it for years. It works great for taking dust out of the air. I have allergies

  • @jameo6381
    @jameo6381 2 роки тому +44

    Dr Corsi! I ran into you on twitter and totally geeked out to “meet” THE Dr. Corsi. Thank you for keeping my family safe and healthy the last few years. Many science-minded people are quietly paying attention, and we love you man!!

    • @foobarmaximus3506
      @foobarmaximus3506 Рік тому +5

      I guess you've never been to any university then. LOL There is nothing special about some who calls themself "Dr".

    • @vernpierce8836
      @vernpierce8836 Рік тому

      ​@@foobarmaximus3506< 👍 😂

  • @brenth509
    @brenth509 7 місяців тому +1

    I did this in my DIY paint booth about 8 years ago. How can you take credit for this?😂😂😂

  • @INoIFearIGaming
    @INoIFearIGaming 3 місяці тому +3

    High quality filters are way too expensive to be using 4 at a time. I just buy 1 good quality filter and slap it on the back on the fan and call it done.

  • @tnt6715
    @tnt6715 3 місяці тому +1

    Saved my life!

  • @TVebd
    @TVebd Рік тому +3

    “MY invention! MINE!!”

  • @devinsharp579
    @devinsharp579 Рік тому +1

    You must drink every time he says "corsi-rosenthal box"😮

  • @Druwar
    @Druwar 2 роки тому +3

    I've been doing this for a decade