Ed that was a really great job of revealing the little known Finnish fighter the "Tornado". Your bravery in attempting to pronounce Finnish words should be recognized. Reminds me of my not so successful attempts in trying to speak Georgian. What a messy affair that was.
I know you're talking of Georgia the nation, but if you've ever heard a Georgian(U.S. state) from the Appalachian Mountains speak English, you might think that was a different language.
The reason that Finnish snipers were so prolific was that they could always find reliable targets of Soviets standing in front of Finnish road signs, scratching their heads in bewilderment.
@@Matt_from_Florida I know. The television has killed regional accents. But, on a recent travel job to Boston, everyone I met swore I was "southern". I'm from DC. LOL.
As we know here in Finland, our language is quite difficult to pronounce (is that a right word I’m using… 😂) Ed did it quite good when saying pyörremyrsky late in video. Jyväskylä thing in the end was just great amount of humor (or humour) whatever. Go Ed. Your channel is great and you bring those small country difficulties back in the day quite well told I think… 🇫🇮👍
Since first hearing of Finland's rather odd place in WWII as a kid back in the seventies, I have never ceased to be amazed by everything I learn about them. No less than today's lesson. Thanks Ed. Keep on amazing us for as long as you like. 👍👍🛩️
@Yulis Take your archaic Soviet propaganda elsewhere. The Finns only fought the Soviets in WW2, who were consistently the bad guys with regard to Finland. Keeping the Soviets invaders out of Finland was the only cause Finland fought for. It had no interest in furthering the Axis' cause.
@@peabaseDefeating the USSR was a potential desireable outcome the prospect of which was directly linked to success of the wider axis war effort on the eastern front, however.
Pyörremyrsky is a compound word translated literally as "whirl storm". Nowadays it usually means a hurricane and tornado is just referred to as a tornado, but tornado is actually probably accurate for the 40's. Great videos Ed and nice to see these covered.
Jatkosodan aikana oli suunnitelma VL Vihurista, eri vihuri kuin koulukone. Kopio DH Mosquitosta Daimler Benzin DB 605 moottoreilla. Puuta ja vaneria meillä riittää.
@@AndreiTupolev Yeah, the radial engine does make it look like a Corsair a little. Funnily enough, the American pilots who faced it often confused it for a Fw 190 because of the same reason!
Reliable wood glue was a constant problem in wooden aircraft of the Axis. The other constant problem was, the Axis countries never had real partnership. German authorities treated their own allies like shit and their allies had good reason not to trust them. If VL had been able to hire a couple of German or Italian aircraft design specialists, the design and prototype construction would have been greatly accelerated. At the same time Germany could have prepared to licence produce the aircraft for the Luftwaffe. The Pyörremyrsky did not only meet Finnish requirements perfectly. It also was exactly what the Luftwaffe needed. The Bf109 was very close to the limits of the initial design when the G series came into production. It was too small to house bigger guns and bigger engines without big bulges that increased drag. Its wing loading had grown dangerously high, especially combined with the narrow landing gear. And it was made of aluminium. The Pyörremyrsky was just the right amount larger. It housed 0.50 Browning copies without bulges. These American designed guns were substantially bigger and heavier than the German MG 131 13mm machine gun that required bulges in the 109. It would have been able to house the late DB 605 AS and D models with only minor bulges. Its bigger wing matched the weight of the aircraft much better than the wing of late Bf 109s. The wider landing gear, still using most of the old parts, could have substantially reduced the way to high rate of take off and landing accidents the Bf 109 G had (around 200 damaged per month in 1944). Use of wood as major construction material would have reduced the aluminium supply problems Germany was facing late in the war. The only real problem: They desperately needed reliable wood glue or the whole project was impossible.
That wood glue problem has me mystified. Germany then, and for many years previously, was the preeminent chemistry super power. How could they not come up with a good wood glue?
@@clark9992 I know sabotage by slave labor was one factor. Everything from the G43 rifle to the Me-262 was subject to this. It even happened with the postwar French Fw-190, though another problem with that was slapping together different variants into one plane.
@@clark9992 Germany had the Tego-Film adhesive for the purpose, but only one factory produced it. After the factory was destroyed in bombing raid in 1943, the manufacturing process was lost and they never did manage fully recreate it. This doomed the Focke-Wulf Ta 154 which flew fine with prototype made with Tego-Film, but fell apart in flight with too acidic replacement glue. Finnish aircraft production also used Tego-Film delivered from Germany so it had to be replaced with local casein-based alternative that had issues with moisture.
@@clark9992 the British had Aerolite a urea formaldehyde glue which is still available and in use (the glue was very probably a National Secret in the 1940s).
Never underestimate the ingenuity of a Nation in its defense … the Finnish defense during the winter war is my favorite example of the Territorial Imperative …
Agreed. The Finns demonstrated McGuyver brilliance and innovation on a shoestring that was amazing. Reminds me of the same performed by the young state of Israel in 1948 making do with so little to fend off five nations armies fully equipped with modern weapons.
Finland did not have aircraft grade aluminium so they had to use wood. There were scrap aircraft with good powerplants that could be used. The literal translation of pyoremyrsky is whirl storm so one could use whirlwind or tornado.
I was at at the Finnish air force museum a few years ago. I likte the Hawker Hurricane they have. Looks like it was in active service yesterday and someone just rolled it in to the museum and did not even bother to give the aircraft a quick clean :,)
The development of the Finnish Tornado was not a complete waste of time and resources. The same wing design, which differed significantly from the Bf109, was used in a two-seat trainer aircraft Valmet Vihuri, which was in use with the Finnish Air Force in the 1950s. Unlike the Puumersu (wooden Messerschmitt), the Vihuri was an all-metal construction, and 51 were built. One of those is also on display here at Jyväskylä, right next to the Pyörremyrsky.
@@FelloniusWizard You're warmly welcome! And I'm always ready to act as a free tour guide. :D I can recommend the Finnish Airforce Museum to anyone interested in military aviation. It's a small collection, but it houses some genuine world class rarities, such as the only surviving example of the Brewster Buffalo (on loan from the US Navy), the only Martinsyde aircraft left anywhere in the world, the only original Bristol Blenheim and one of the two surviving Breguet 14s.
Another excellent video of a rare and under appreciated aircraft. I had actually heard of it before, from a Finnish friend who's father was a wartime pilot and had flown just about every aircraft used or tested by the Finnish airforce.
Yes, I agree. The Ki-61 Hien is a good comparison as are Italian DB-powered fighters. When I saw the picture of the plane in the right-hand column of videos, I thought, wow, that's beautiful WWII fighter plane I've never seen or heard of. Great that it's been preserved.
It makes me wonder why Messerschmitt didn't fix the 109's landing gear by similarly swapping to a wide track? Great video. I'm loving these less well known aircraft. Thanks.
Messerschmitt Bf 109:s narrow landing gear was intentional. In field circumstances were very easy to change new wing without special jackings and lifters. This made job easier and fastet. Problems was caused that Bf109's centre of gravity was "placed" quite back of the fuselage. By the way, Spitfire had narrow track in its landind gear too. But it is never heard that this caused problems as in Bf109. And Spit's COG had more sensible and better placing. In later Messerschmitt's fighter plane types Me 209 and Me 309 landing gear were "normal" wide-track construction (as in Focke-Wulf 190).
The Bf109's awkward outward folding landing gear had a (single?) useful advantage. During manufacture the fuselage could be wheeled around on its wheels before the wings were installed. This eased production.
It may have made changing a whole wing for a new one easier in the field too. Though one would think that balance issues would have made that too difficult in practice, but perhaps not.
The lost many 109s on take off and landing especially on makeshift airfields . There was a 1970s TV interview with Galland where he wanted all 109 production to stop and produce the Fw-190 only.
@@kyle857 a lot more efficient (and saved a lot of fuel) than flying them great distances necessarily in many stages, like from the Messerschmitt factory in Bavaria to the Eastern front, and tying up pilots that could have been better employed elsewhere, particularly if flying conditions were unfavourable. Remember they were very short ranged
Excellent content. Fun, informative, and amusing. On a side note, this video made me think about the fact that every prototype aircraft built during this era would be a boon to air museums all over the world. How great would it be to see the Swoose Goose? But we can't. I'm glad the Finns had the foresight to preserve this article.
Thanks once again for the interesting content you keep providing! I know that I'm just one in an ever growing audience, which you absolutely deserve and I'm extremely happy that more and more people are finding the channel - but I really wanted to thank you for all of the work you've done. Cheers, and have a good one!
*Those Finns .... as a nation, they are hard to break at all .... they were ALWAYS impressing me !!* I am so glad ... that finally these days the Army of the Republic of Finland, has joint the NATO force !!!! *Welcome to NATO ... Finlandia !!!!*
Wow, thank you! :) I waited for this much! If you wanna make a video of the Hungarian Weiss-Manfréd WM-23 Ezüstnyíl (Silver Arrow) (or maybe the MÁVAG Héjja - Goshawk) I may can help... with pronunciation as well. :D
One of the reasons and an important one why the 109 had its undercarriage mounted to the fuselage was that it enabled it to be moved easily around the manufacturing facility prior to having its wings fitted.
@@michaelmclachlan1650 Agree that the Folgore and G55 look very similar. Think I thought of the G55 first because I made the 1/72 Frog model years ago.
Someone with more sources in finnish might have commented this already somewhere, but while quickly browsing thru the comments, I didn't spot this: Even the maiden flight of Pyörremyrsky wasn't easy. One of the panels in the forward fuselage came loose, exhaust fumes started to get into the cockpit, and the test pilot had to put his oxygen mask on to be able to breathe. Approximately 20 years ago I managed to find a book, Lentäjän Näkökulma, which deals with aircraft designed and built by VL, going very deep into design details, flight reports etc. This story is mentioned there. I can recommend that book to anyone, if you are lucky enough to come across a copy somewhere... EDIT:(and understand finnish :D )
Love that people are still learning about this and other real "scratchbuilt" (or mostly) aircraft. History shows that industrial independence is vital to maintain national independence - something the Aussies need to re-learn.
LOL Ed, the comedy added to this video was great! I don't think the mouths of people who speak English as a native language developed to pronounce many of these names. ;) Another great contribution to the series though; I'd never heard of this type prior to this. Amazing that the one example is still around today!
Well ... you went there, didn't you? You reviewed some aeroplanes from the Finnish Winter and Continuation Wars ... and, having seen nobody else even trying to touch them, I've arrived at the conclusion you have balls the size of Jupiter. Not because they were Finnish aircraft particularly, but because of their extremely Finnish names. You didn't get the names quite right but, without some form of teaching, I cannot see how anybody could. So ... kudos for at least trying. Most Finns I know would be thrilled that you tried. These aircraft are particularly interesting because of the restrictions in design and engineering placed on the State Aircraft Factory by conditions and climate here in Finland. They didn't do too well, sadly. But they were very valiant attempts to take what had been learned from other countries' aircraft and apply that learning to solve a serious problem: getting fighter aircraft now.
Perhaps this is a silly question, but I keep seeing examples of aircraft whose performance stats were distorted by being tested without armaments: is there a reason why they didn't include ballast or some other mockup to simulate the weapons load?
As a side note on ballast. We were to install ballast in the A 10 if it were to fly with no ammo or spent rounds in its gun system. The system retains spent rounds that act as ballast. If there are no spent rounds it needs the ballasts. This is a rare condition that the plane would ever be flown with zero ammo. Imagine the weight of 1170 rounds of 30 mm ammo. I can see how the absence of weapons could drastically change a planes performance.
@@treefittyfoh1562 This is fascinating! I had never heard this before. I always wondered if the sandbox was littered with A10 shell casings. Now i know. Thank you! Q: Did we save the casings to be reloaded, like shooting enthusiasts do here in the US?
Just going to say that, "if it looks right, it is right" is indeed a rule to live by.. Then this would have been one of the best fighters ever flown as it's absolutely gorgeous.
I live in Jyväskylä so I know how to say it LoL also the first time I when to the Air museum I had to look twice because of the Finnish WWII makings on there planes (why are all these planes got swastika on them?) when I got home I went on Google and found out about the Finnish marking
Great video, and great to see all our friends from Suomi here mocking us poor English persons who can't even say 'sauna' correctly. Loved the pronunciation jokes!
Soviet fighters like Mig-3 and Lavockins were also made mostly with plywood. I think they were the inspiration for VL regarding plywood constructed airframes.
Love the Pyörremyrsky! I went to Jyväskylä to see it. Well worth all the way there! Greetings from Sweden!
Ed that was a really great job of revealing the little known Finnish fighter the "Tornado". Your bravery in attempting to pronounce Finnish words should be recognized. Reminds me of my not so successful attempts in trying to speak Georgian. What a messy affair that was.
How's your danish? ..better than my finnish i'd guess ;-D
I know you're talking of Georgia the nation, but if you've ever heard a Georgian(U.S. state) from the Appalachian Mountains speak English, you might think that was a different language.
@@calliecooke1817 Better hurry. Those dialects are dying out!
The reason that Finnish snipers were so prolific was that they could always find reliable targets of Soviets standing in front of Finnish road signs, scratching their heads in bewilderment.
@@Matt_from_Florida I know. The television has killed regional accents. But, on a recent travel job to Boston, everyone I met swore I was "southern". I'm from DC. LOL.
It's amazing Finland with it's very limited industry was able to make any aircraft at all, let alone one so capable. Great video as always Ed.
They are definitely can do folk, incredibly resilient.
@dimapez y that time they could have bought them from Britain.
@@bigblue6917 they were at war with the British during the continuation war.
Small countries with limited resources can make capable aircraft. Fielding them in large numbers is more difficult.
AND they solved the curse of the 109's landing gear as a bonus!
Finnish pronunciation terrifies me, solid effort Ed! Also in general I adore this plane, such a unique history!
As we know here in Finland, our language is quite difficult to pronounce (is that a right word I’m using… 😂) Ed did it quite good when saying pyörremyrsky late in video. Jyväskylä thing in the end was just great amount of humor (or humour) whatever. Go Ed. Your channel is great and you bring those small country difficulties back in the day quite well told I think… 🇫🇮👍
Since first hearing of Finland's rather odd place in WWII as a kid back in the seventies, I have never ceased to be amazed by everything I learn about them. No less than today's lesson. Thanks Ed. Keep on amazing us for as long as you like. 👍👍🛩️
@Yulis Take your archaic Soviet propaganda elsewhere. The Finns only fought the Soviets in WW2, who were consistently the bad guys with regard to Finland. Keeping the Soviets invaders out of Finland was the only cause Finland fought for. It had no interest in furthering the Axis' cause.
@@peabaseDefeating the USSR was a potential desireable outcome the prospect of which was directly linked to success of the wider axis war effort on the eastern front, however.
Ed, you need to do more Finnish airplanes.
For the sake of the airplanes of course, but also because you absolutly love those Finnish words 😀
Actually we love seeing you TRYING to pronounce Finnish words 😂🤣🍺
no he doesn't
But he what he doesn't do it actually pretty lovely. Me finn, do worse english.
@@mikepette4422 óoko
@@henkthijssen1 Oh ............. Fair enough really.
Nice Aeroplane 'though.
Pyörremyrsky is a compound word translated literally as "whirl storm". Nowadays it usually means a hurricane and tornado is just referred to as a tornado, but tornado is actually probably accurate for the 40's.
Great videos Ed and nice to see these covered.
Pyörremyrsky looks awesomely sleek. Seen it in a museum many times
Jatkosodan aikana oli suunnitelma VL Vihurista, eri vihuri kuin koulukone. Kopio DH Mosquitosta Daimler Benzin DB 605 moottoreilla. Puuta ja vaneria meillä riittää.
Saatana! and ♥ from Denmark ;-)
Your saunas in Kosovo(KFOR) early 2000s were FANTASTIC!!
Ai joo täysin.
En olisi yhtään ihmetellyt jos Suomi olisi aloittanut suihkukone ajankin puisilla koneilla.
@@VikingTeddy no ei paljoa puuttunut, de havilland vampire. seuraava kone oli gnat josta sammui moottorit aden-tykeillä ammuttaessa.
@@VikingTeddy Niinhän se tekikin! Vampire oli puu/metalli-sekarakenteinen:fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Vampire
One aircraft I very much recommend covering in a similar video is the Romanian IAR-80 series!
A very good airplane that was used w success! 👍
Now that was a nice looking aircraft. Rather reminded me of the Corsair
@@AndreiTupolev Yeah, the radial engine does make it look like a Corsair a little. Funnily enough, the American pilots who faced it often confused it for a Fw 190 because of the same reason!
If Roswell was in Finnland
1st: it's name was unpronounceable
2nd: the Finns would have build a Plywood-Saucer
... its* name (it's = it is)
@@einundsiebenziger5488 ups, i mean: NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!
Or i just alter my comment and pretend nothing ever happened 🤔
Reliable wood glue was a constant problem in wooden aircraft of the Axis. The other constant problem was, the Axis countries never had real partnership. German authorities treated their own allies like shit and their allies had good reason not to trust them.
If VL had been able to hire a couple of German or Italian aircraft design specialists, the design and prototype construction would have been greatly accelerated. At the same time Germany could have prepared to licence produce the aircraft for the Luftwaffe.
The Pyörremyrsky did not only meet Finnish requirements perfectly. It also was exactly what the Luftwaffe needed. The Bf109 was very close to the limits of the initial design when the G series came into production. It was too small to house bigger guns and bigger engines without big bulges that increased drag. Its wing loading had grown dangerously high, especially combined with the narrow landing gear. And it was made of aluminium.
The Pyörremyrsky was just the right amount larger. It housed 0.50 Browning copies without bulges. These American designed guns were substantially bigger and heavier than the German MG 131 13mm machine gun that required bulges in the 109. It would have been able to house the late DB 605 AS and D models with only minor bulges. Its bigger wing matched the weight of the aircraft much better than the wing of late Bf 109s. The wider landing gear, still using most of the old parts, could have substantially reduced the way to high rate of take off and landing accidents the Bf 109 G had (around 200 damaged per month in 1944). Use of wood as major construction material would have reduced the aluminium supply problems Germany was facing late in the war. The only real problem: They desperately needed reliable wood glue or the whole project was impossible.
That wood glue problem has me mystified. Germany then, and for many years previously, was the preeminent chemistry super power. How could they not come up with a good wood glue?
@@clark9992 I know sabotage by slave labor was one factor. Everything from the G43 rifle to the Me-262 was subject to this. It even happened with the postwar French Fw-190, though another problem with that was slapping together different variants into one plane.
@@clark9992 Germany had the Tego-Film adhesive for the purpose, but only one factory produced it. After the factory was destroyed in bombing raid in 1943, the manufacturing process was lost and they never did manage fully recreate it. This doomed the Focke-Wulf Ta 154 which flew fine with prototype made with Tego-Film, but fell apart in flight with too acidic replacement glue. Finnish aircraft production also used Tego-Film delivered from Germany so it had to be replaced with local casein-based alternative that had issues with moisture.
@@clark9992 True, BASF was and still is a world leading chemical company. They had a problem with wood glue though?
@@clark9992 the British had Aerolite a urea formaldehyde glue which is still available and in use (the glue was very probably a National Secret in the 1940s).
Never underestimate the ingenuity of a Nation in its defense … the Finnish defense during the winter war is my favorite example of the Territorial Imperative …
Agreed. The Finns demonstrated McGuyver brilliance and innovation on a shoestring that was amazing. Reminds me of the same performed by the young state of Israel in 1948 making do with so little to fend off five nations armies fully equipped with modern weapons.
@@blank557 only the Mullet one.
@@treszenrv9401 Of course!
@@blank557 Funny enough, Richard Dean Anderson has some Finnish roots and one of the technical advisors for the series was a Finn too :-)
@@samulilahnamaki3127 That explains a lot! If I ever am stuck in an elevator or on a deserted Island, I want a Finn as a companion!
Finland did not have aircraft grade aluminium so they had to use wood. There were scrap aircraft with good powerplants that could be used. The literal translation of pyoremyrsky is whirl storm so one could use whirlwind or tornado.
Ed, your final pronunciation was spot on. Jyväskylä is indeed pronounced ‘sigh’.
Looks a pretty beautiful plane.
That is a very nice looking fighter.
I was at at the Finnish air force museum a few years ago. I likte the Hawker Hurricane they have. Looks like it was in active service yesterday and someone just rolled it in to the museum and did not even bother to give the aircraft a quick clean :,)
Excellent video Ed and my sympathies about pronouncing Finnish names. You handled it gracefully and with humour and that is about all one may expect.
I love how you highlight the more esoteric aircraft... really brings the history to life!
The development of the Finnish Tornado was not a complete waste of time and resources. The same wing design, which differed significantly from the Bf109, was used in a two-seat trainer aircraft Valmet Vihuri, which was in use with the Finnish Air Force in the 1950s. Unlike the Puumersu (wooden Messerschmitt), the Vihuri was an all-metal construction, and 51 were built.
One of those is also on display here at Jyväskylä, right next to the Pyörremyrsky.
Jyväskylä is growing as a tourist attraction for me. Since I'm a Swede, it's close enough!
@@FelloniusWizard You're warmly welcome! And I'm always ready to act as a free tour guide. :D
I can recommend the Finnish Airforce Museum to anyone interested in military aviation. It's a small collection, but it houses some genuine world class rarities, such as the only surviving example of the Brewster Buffalo (on loan from the US Navy), the only Martinsyde aircraft left anywhere in the world, the only original Bristol Blenheim and one of the two surviving Breguet 14s.
@@MPPelli kävin tsiigaan. Oli just niinkuin ohukais-lasse sen jätti karjalan suohon.
@@ippivonlarha9900 exactly!
@@ippivonlarha9900 Ohukaisen saappaatkin jäi suojärveen, mutta Brewster haettiin sentään takaisin.
Another excellent video of a rare and under appreciated aircraft. I had actually heard of it before, from a Finnish friend who's father was a wartime pilot and had flown just about every aircraft used or tested by the Finnish airforce.
Finnish is a fun language. I have to visit that museum. The Finnish Air Force deserves kudos for preserving those planes.
Along with the Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien, it's the most attractive non-Messerschmitt DB-powered fighter ever.
Yes, I agree. The Ki-61 Hien is a good comparison as are Italian DB-powered fighters. When I saw the picture of the plane in the right-hand column of videos, I thought, wow, that's beautiful WWII fighter plane I've never seen or heard of. Great that it's been preserved.
It makes me wonder why Messerschmitt didn't fix the 109's landing gear by similarly swapping to a wide track?
Great video. I'm loving these less well known aircraft. Thanks.
Messerschmitt Bf 109:s narrow landing gear was intentional. In field circumstances were very easy to change new wing without special jackings and lifters. This made job easier and fastet. Problems was caused that Bf109's centre of gravity was "placed" quite back of the fuselage.
By the way, Spitfire had narrow track in its landind gear too. But it is never heard that this caused problems as in Bf109. And Spit's COG had more sensible and better placing.
In later Messerschmitt's fighter plane types Me 209 and Me 309 landing gear were "normal" wide-track construction (as in Focke-Wulf 190).
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up as a support
You are just forking great 👏🏾👏🏾😌
Love these obscure airplane videos! Keep 'em coming.
The Bf109's awkward outward folding landing gear had a (single?) useful advantage. During manufacture the fuselage could be wheeled around on its wheels before the wings were installed. This eased production.
It could also be moved by train, although that seems like a stupid way to move an aircraft to me.
And, …. It had the effect of mass centralisation… aiding agility
It may have made changing a whole wing for a new one easier in the field too. Though one would think that balance issues would have made that too difficult in practice, but perhaps not.
The lost many 109s on take off and landing especially on makeshift airfields .
There was a 1970s TV interview with Galland where he wanted all 109 production to stop and produce the Fw-190 only.
@@kyle857 a lot more efficient (and saved a lot of fuel) than flying them great distances necessarily in many stages, like from the Messerschmitt factory in Bavaria to the Eastern front, and tying up pilots that could have been better employed elsewhere, particularly if flying conditions were unfavourable. Remember they were very short ranged
Excellent content. Fun, informative, and amusing.
On a side note, this video made me think about the fact that every prototype aircraft built during this era would be a boon to air museums all over the world. How great would it be to see the Swoose Goose? But we can't. I'm glad the Finns had the foresight to preserve this article.
Great short video on a wuite unique prototype.
I really enjoy this format and choice of subjects, please keep posting!
Am glad a country new the value of keeping a aircraft like that from being strapped.
Pyörremyrsky on nykyään Jyväskylässä.
Love the content Ed.
Seeing this fighter in The museum three different times. It is looking so big, strong, streamlined and beautiful fighter I have ever seen.
Thanks once again for the interesting content you keep providing!
I know that I'm just one in an ever growing audience, which you absolutely deserve and I'm extremely happy that more and more people are finding the channel - but I really wanted to thank you for all of the work you've done. Cheers, and have a good one!
*Those Finns .... as a nation, they are hard to break at all .... they were ALWAYS impressing me !!*
I am so glad ... that finally these days the Army of the Republic of Finland, has joint the NATO force !!!!
*Welcome to NATO ... Finlandia !!!!*
Great video as usual.
Best video title I’ve seen in a long time! Thanks!
Wow, thank you! :) I waited for this much! If you wanna make a video of the Hungarian Weiss-Manfréd WM-23 Ezüstnyíl (Silver Arrow) (or maybe the MÁVAG Héjja - Goshawk) I may can help... with pronunciation as well. :D
One of the reasons and an important one why the 109 had its undercarriage mounted to the fuselage was that it enabled it to be moved easily around the manufacturing facility prior to having its wings fitted.
Great looking plane,glad it still survives!
Gagged on my coffee at Google translate, nearly lost my breakfast at the sound you made at the end.
Reminds me of an Re.2005. Same power plant, similar cowling and canopy.
Thought so too, perhaps not the Re2005 specifically but very reminiscent of the DB powered Italian fighters.
@@michaelmclachlan1650 or was I thinking about a Folgore?
I was thinking of the Fiat G55.
@@browserrr1 No worries. It must be said the Serie 5 Italian fighters had both looks and performance; marvelous planes.
@@michaelmclachlan1650 Agree that the Folgore and G55 look very similar. Think I thought of the G55 first because I made the 1/72 Frog model years ago.
Very nice video, thanks! I knew about the Myrsky, but not about this one!
Samma här
Great narration 😁
Thanks Ed, informative and humorous.
Someone with more sources in finnish might have commented this already somewhere, but while quickly browsing thru the comments, I didn't spot this:
Even the maiden flight of Pyörremyrsky wasn't easy. One of the panels in the forward fuselage came loose, exhaust fumes started to get into the cockpit, and the test pilot had to put his oxygen mask on to be able to breathe.
Approximately 20 years ago I managed to find a book, Lentäjän Näkökulma, which deals with aircraft designed and built by VL, going very deep into design details, flight reports etc. This story is mentioned there. I can recommend that book to anyone, if you are lucky enough to come across a copy somewhere... EDIT:(and understand finnish :D )
Excellent video as ever. And I'm not going to even try and pronounce any of those Finnish names.
Interesting plane, good info, fun ending. Thanks.
Yep the name is definitely a mouthful. Yet again another gem Ed. That period of history just keeps on giving aircraft golden nuggets.
Thank you for the video! :)
This Tornado reminds me of the Centauro!
The Finns were getting better and better!...
Edit: And they must be praised for preserving it. 👍
Thought so too, very reminiscent of the DB powered Italian fighters.
Very G-55 👍
Very nice sleek looking aircraft.
0:33 - A tank pulling personnel sleds = semi-APC.
Hahaha, that ending is classic Ed! I love it.
Very interesting! Thanks for all your work!
Loved the sigh at the end 😂
Love that people are still learning about this and other real "scratchbuilt" (or mostly) aircraft. History shows that industrial independence is vital to maintain national independence - something the Aussies need to re-learn.
Marvellous channel.
Are you doing a Morane MS 406 that flew in Finnland and was built and improved in Switzerland as D3802 too?
Great Vid! What about the Jugoslavian "Novi Avion" Project?
Very aesthetic, with a welcome change of landing gear.
Ed, very funny how you show your multilingual talents! 😁
pyörremmm is the noise of the engine and "-sky" obviously means that it is a plane.
LOL Ed, the comedy added to this video was great! I don't think the mouths of people who speak English as a native language developed to pronounce many of these names. ;) Another great contribution to the series though; I'd never heard of this type prior to this. Amazing that the one example is still around today!
Excellent as always, love from your secret Valentine's admirer, Ms Zweckzirzchonsrobovzh. ❤️❤️❤️
The wing looks similar to the late 3rd gen Italian DB engined fighters
Thanks Ed, Good Job! By the way, it's Zhyvaeshkyla, or something like that ;)
Well ... you went there, didn't you?
You reviewed some aeroplanes from the Finnish Winter and Continuation Wars ... and, having seen nobody else even trying to touch them, I've arrived at the conclusion you have balls the size of Jupiter. Not because they were Finnish aircraft particularly, but because of their extremely Finnish names.
You didn't get the names quite right but, without some form of teaching, I cannot see how anybody could. So ... kudos for at least trying. Most Finns I know would be thrilled that you tried.
These aircraft are particularly interesting because of the restrictions in design and engineering placed on the State Aircraft Factory by conditions and climate here in Finland.
They didn't do too well, sadly. But they were very valiant attempts to take what had been learned from other countries' aircraft and apply that learning to solve a serious problem: getting fighter aircraft now.
Excellent !!!
Great Vid thanks, had a good laugh at the Translations, to me they all Translate as "Bob"
Perhaps this is a silly question, but I keep seeing examples of aircraft whose performance stats were distorted by being tested without armaments: is there a reason why they didn't include ballast or some other mockup to simulate the weapons load?
Salesmanship!
Part of the testing process. Start out simple and light, then add on systems as experience and accumulated flight data increases.
As a side note on ballast. We were to install ballast in the A 10 if it were to fly with no ammo or spent rounds in its gun system. The system retains spent rounds that act as ballast. If there are no spent rounds it needs the ballasts. This is a rare condition that the plane would ever be flown with zero ammo. Imagine the weight of 1170 rounds of 30 mm ammo. I can see how the absence of weapons could drastically change a planes performance.
True.
They could have used sandbags at the balce points of the weapons to get true performance numbers.
@@treefittyfoh1562 This is fascinating! I had never heard this before. I always wondered if the sandbox was littered with A10 shell casings. Now i know. Thank you! Q: Did we save the casings to be reloaded, like shooting enthusiasts do here in the US?
Hi Ed.
Afternoon!
Excellent.
The Tornado is as beautiful as the Centaur.
Clean and sexy!
You nailed the name at the end though.
Fins , oke lets see what we like of the aircraft we have and build according to those strenghs.
Just going to say that, "if it looks right, it is right" is indeed a rule to live by..
Then this would have been one of the best fighters ever flown as it's absolutely gorgeous.
I live in Jyväskylä so I know how to say it LoL
also the first time I when to the Air museum I had to look twice because of the Finnish WWII makings on there planes (why are all these planes got swastika on them?) when I got home I went on Google and found out about the Finnish marking
"located at silence, 😂😂😂😂difficult to pronounce name. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You just killed me their. Thank you for your humor.
Great video, and great to see all our friends from Suomi here mocking us poor English persons who can't even say 'sauna' correctly. Loved the pronunciation jokes!
Greetings from Jyväskylä :D
Easy for you to say! ;)
@@EdNashsMilitaryMatters i thought just shouting it as a battlecry worked
Jy va skyla or something similar to that.
It reminds me of one of those 5-series Italian planes.
The g55 maybe.
You can see how good was Willy Messerschmitt as a designer. Finns made their own 109 of plywood and steel pipes, and it was still better than original
If you want to do a segment on another little-known fighter from WWII, I'd suggest the Yugoslav Rogozarski IK-3.
Soviet fighters like Mig-3 and Lavockins were also made mostly with plywood. I think they were the inspiration for VL regarding plywood constructed airframes.
Especially Lavochkin LaGG-3. Remember Lilya Litvak.
You do good work. Educational and fun, also highlighting little seen types. Watching you try to pronounce those words was amusing.
You should cover the other Tornado of the period Ed, the Hawker one meant to replace the Hurricane.
Yep, it's on the list :)
I love the way you face pronounciation difficulties
Since one exists one would hope a limited production plastic model of one would be released.
When an aviation and a linguistics UA-cam channel love each other very much
Next week, Ed Nash's video will be entirely in Finnish
Disappointing that there's no wood veneer on the dashboard..
I'd like to hear more about the ERCO YO-55 used by the USASF and the Alaskan Nation Guardin in WW2
Great video! I never knew of this plane. I wonder if Christoph Bergs @MilAvHistory can be persuaded to do an "in the cockpit" ?
Please do a video on Eyjafjallajökull and how it blocked air traffic.
And say the name a hundred times. Haha!
Bra. Fortsätt med det goda arbetet. Tack. 😂
(Say this 3 times fast)
Oh we're playing this game are we? ok I see you and raise you: Strč prst skrz krk
Loved the defeated sigh when confronted with pronouncing Jyväskylä 🤣🤣