Regretfully, in my younger years I would call an old timey operator (snail man) he seemed to me soooo slooow but after he got done for the day he would load the same amount of trucks that I would. I learned something being faster just wears you down more. As I became a more experienced operator I would make every move count, and I became more relaxed and became one with the machine. In my 35 yr of being an operator I feel I mastered the 4 in 1 bucket. What a great tool to operate and look forward to you (Chris) mastering it as well.
It's the worst when someone forgets to lock in the bucket, even worse when it's a 4/1. We've had one dropped into a dump truck and hang off the hoses ruining bucket side and skid steer side couplings.
I just got an AMI four in one bucket about a month ago the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever purchased just a heads up, I just ordered a Norm engineering 4n1 bucket
Having ran a skid loader for a long time, having the loader arms tight against the machine stops while the cutting edge can be leveled is HUGE. It makes the difference between floating, grading, and/or digging. I 100% agree with your 7/10 ratings on all 3 buckets.
We had a similar issue with a regular Virnig tooth bucket in that we were using extra thick treads on a tire machine. This caused quite the change in bucket angle usage in "the home" position throughout the wear of the tires. We ordered the bucket with the mounting plate not welded on and we custom attached the plate in the correct position for our purpose and was very happy. We have used Virnig for a long time and never had any problems with any of their attachments. They are very sturdy and durable!
You used an Australian bucket some months ago do you remember? as I recall you liked it how would that bucket compare with these ones ? made by Norm Engineering in Carrum downs Victoria
Awesome video review. My friend has a case loader and his dad has an older case. I was hauling manure out to the fields and when I was operating the bucket and I noticed that same kind of deal where the front edge was up off the ground a few inches too. The newer skid loader with the same bucket front edge was level with the ground and the operating speed of the bucket is quicker too. About 3 days @ 12 hours per day to empty out the manure pit. Every little bit of speed on the operating of the tilt of the bucket sure saves a lot of time at the end of a project!
Thanks Chris, I really enjoyed this review. I’m a landscaper and I often try different machinery, very rarely is any one machine perfect, I’m always wishing I could amalgamate several in one.
I checked my swivel office chair underneath, couldn't find any hydraulic couplers so I decided to pass on this bucket test.....sorry Chris , you're on yer own on this one, just drag me along and I'm good to go.
I really appreciate you taking the time to do this and it has really helped me to know what to purchase and what did not purchase at least with regard to the ones you tried and I appreciate several other things that you showed me. Thank you very much sir
I have a removable tooth bar on mine, and it works great. I've really had it in some hard twists and have never had issues. Its a little more work swapping on and off, but much cheaper than 2 buckets. 👍
I procured a Virnig 10' snow pusher and Cat wheel loader for the company I work for. That pusher is a beast, works very well and made in Minnesota. Cat recommended it and now I know why. Very well made and designed. Really surprised you have the issue with the bucket level that you do.
Here in Sweden and other Nordic countries our grading buckets/scoops for loaders are commonly longer and lower, but it holds same volume..Loading up a truck you also reach longer in. Much nicer to work with even for snow!
Only way to do a good review is to work them in a work situation and you were the man bro. Honest and to the point too. Enjoyed the video as well. Safe travels
Nice video man! I’m with you that Construstion attachments bucket needs the shanks lowered they think they could have easily seen that. I guess that’s what I stick with the tooth bucket cause it’s a paladin bucket and the geometry is perfect for the Takeuchi
I've been researching a lot of equipment recently, and get tired of looking at reviews where the person doing it never really uses it, and misses "minor details" which turn out to be important (or at least expensive) in the long run or someone who's simply doing a "sales pitch" for some company. Thanks for posting this review.
I had the same exact problem with my CA 4-1 bucket. It felt like I was always fighting with the bucket to hold grade. I’m a landscaper and mainly only do final grading. I sold that bucket after 100 hours or so. I actually met with Ted and his brother about the hitch plate height being off 3 years and I’m glad they finally fixed that. I ended up with a CID 4-1 and I love it but the cutting edges are all weld on. No bucket is perfect I’ve learned.
I like to back drag with the heel of the bucket, but a lot of buckets don't have heels anymore or they have wear plates that leave two deep ruts when you're trying to back drag, at least on some buckets, or buckets on larger loaders.
Hey Chris, just watch those hoses floping around, they will get caught in the pinch point of the arms, when that happens its a hydraulic shower time. That's no fun, no fun at all!! Have a great evening, and weekend!!!!!
I've got Verizon Stump Bucket with hydraulic grapple on New Holland l230. Use it to take out Cedar trees. It gets it every time. Can haul off trees with hydraulic grapple. Love It.
Well I suppose that would be alright but does your Porsche have the lift capacity for these 4in1 buckets? Not to mention the hydraulic attachments? You might want to convert from tires to tracks. Not sure you have enough weight to get good enough traction to overcome the digging resistance of the teeth. Best of luck anyway :D
Crazy idea and I know it will probably cost alot to do but have you thought about designing your own bucket like you did with the thumb on the Volvo? Make it to your specs and what you will be doing with it might in the long run work better to your advantage that way. Just an idea that might help some.
The last bucket I got from construction attachments had the teeth on like that. I flipped them over and they fit a little better, I thought they accidentally put them on upside down. I don't like the 1" thick cutting edge either, it doesn't cut as well as a 3/4" and the teeth are flush
Nice Pair of buckets Right there.i enjoyed the Review of all three buckets 😀.the 2 New ones i really liked a Lot . Nice grading you Can so with those 2 buckets although i agree on what you said about the Teeth and the shanks bot Matching Up with the bucket urself.awesome Review of hightech skidsteer equippment.keep Up the nice Videos and hope To See more vids if u have anything Else New To review👍
I Had a CA 4 BUCKET on my first machine bought in 2000 loved it. Just got a new machine this year and got the CA 4 BUCKET on it. Not pleased with the new one, very unhappy with it. Just like you said teeth ride higher than the cutting edge. Not only that the back cutting edge hangs lower than the bucket by one inch which makes grading very difficult ,you have to keep the bucket tilted down in order for the back cutting edge not to be digging in. There was nothing wrong with the old ones that I could see. Wish they had not fixed something that was not broke.
Have you ever seen the Hydra bucket from CMP Attachments? I have a Cat 257B, looking to get 1 bucket that can do it all. Cutting & grading dirt and maintaining a 1/2 mile gravel drive.
Great video. Damn it’s nice watching a video where the individual really knows what he’s talking about. Keep up the great work. I strictly run a road grader now, but I want to get me a Takeuchi tracked skid for my personal use. How do you rate this machine, compared to to a cat 289/299?
Really like your reviews. They tend to be more realistic than listening to the dealer. Nice that they let an independent person give the review. They're holding their breath!
Whatever happened to that Australian bucket you tried out a few years ago? That seemed like it cover most of the bases. I’m sure getting parts might be a pain but seemed ya really liked that one. Also I agree ami would something to try.
What about the floating action for when the bucket is flat, there would be none for down wards float,,,, I completely understand about strength being more stable against the blocks too though
Don't spend all your hard earned money in one spot Chris, but that is a Nice Bucket...is that on ur new bucket list. 😆 Hope you have a Great Holiday Season, Merry Christmas Chris..🎄☃️🎅
Sounds like the takeuchi sits lower, which is causing these problems. Just need the mount dropped down lower to fit. And yes you can weld onto the bucket, just need filler metal to match the base material the best. I’m surprised you haven’t got a custom bucket built to your specs.
Well Chris I definitely think the first bucket that you tried was the best by far other than the teeth not touching the ground with your boom all the way down and that would not be a hard fix to straighten it out all they would have to do is readjust their shanks so they’re your teeth would touch the ground when your boom is all the way down and the bucket laying flat on the ground so if I had to choose between the two of those new ones that you were trying out I would definitely take the first one because it’s a lot stronger built looking bucket but anyway to each his own and another great video you and John and your family stay safe brother and keep the videos coming
Can’t wait to see you grade around a house or something with one of the other one of these 4 in 1s. That would be a real test for them. I would’ve called Paladin and asked them how exactly you were posed to put that tooth bar on there with no holes haha.
What would u grade the Norm eng 4in1. I just bought a cat 299d3 and am going to get a 4in1 soon so would like to know if its worth trying to get the Norms bucket.
Sounds like you need to talk to the guys at "AMI" I think it was that did your other LD18 bucket on the 220 ?? to design a LD18 Grading Bucket for the skid steer ?? Hummmm !! I bet they could come up with ya a Great one !! Great as always Man !! On to the Next...
Construction Attachments and Land Pride ( Kubota ) are offering a long bottom 4 in 1 bucket now in 84" . I have a 299 scheduled to arrive soon and want a long bottom 4 in 1 bucket . Have you seen a long bottom yet
Regretfully, in my younger years I would call an old timey operator (snail man) he seemed to me soooo slooow but after he got done for the day he would load the same amount of trucks that I would. I learned something being faster just wears you down more. As I became a more experienced operator I would make every move count, and I became more relaxed and became one with the machine. In my 35 yr of being an operator I feel I mastered the 4 in 1 bucket. What a great tool to operate and look forward to you (Chris) mastering it as well.
"make sure the bucket is latched on"...that's a fine DirtPerfect reference, right there! :-)
What kind of operation is this........ YOURS! 🤣
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It's the worst when someone forgets to lock in the bucket, even worse when it's a 4/1. We've had one dropped into a dump truck and hang off the hoses ruining bucket side and skid steer side couplings.
Chris you should have AMI make you a custom bucket that you designed.
You beat me to it ! That woud be his best bet. And royalties on the new design. And they could advertise as "Actual work site tested"
It would cost $30,000
@@jeffreyhouston2043 Only the first one.
I just got an AMI four in one bucket about a month ago the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever purchased just a heads up, I just ordered a Norm engineering 4n1 bucket
@@jaredmoreno3353 Very good to know! Thank you
Australian manufacturer Norm Engineering make some darn good 4 in 1 buckets,their Tilting 4 in 1 buckets,very nice!
this is what I like about Chris and his channel you get the honest review. love the Jeep when you pulled in. I have a 98 Wrangler.
Having ran a skid loader for a long time, having the loader arms tight against the machine stops while the cutting edge can be leveled is HUGE. It makes the difference between floating, grading, and/or digging. I 100% agree with your 7/10 ratings on all 3 buckets.
Should get that Norm Engineering bucket you tried out back in January. More capacity and looked to be way more heavy duty built
I like that red 4 in 1 bucket your buddy had you try out a while back !
yea, the one from Australia I believe.
@@wadehulsizer Yeah that thing was bad ass
Norm bucket, toughest 4 in 1 I've used
@@rude252 it looks it !!
We had a similar issue with a regular Virnig tooth bucket in that we were using extra thick treads on a tire machine. This caused quite the change in bucket angle usage in "the home" position throughout the wear of the tires. We ordered the bucket with the mounting plate not welded on and we custom attached the plate in the correct position for our purpose and was very happy. We have used Virnig for a long time and never had any problems with any of their attachments. They are very sturdy and durable!
You used an Australian bucket some months ago do you remember? as I recall you liked it how would that bucket compare with these ones ? made by Norm Engineering in Carrum downs Victoria
Hey I learned to check hydraulic hose length the hard way to!
With broken Stucchi fittings.
And a bath of the machine in hydraulic fluid!
Welp... this gives yesterday's video a lot more context!
i enjoyed your explaination ofhowyougrade andwhat youare looking for in the buckets. Very informative.
Christmas comes early. I feel like I just took a Master's class on buckets in just the first five minutes. Class is in session folks.
Im taking notes! This, and a mini ex are on my list to learn to operate.
Awesome video review. My friend has a case loader and his dad has an older case. I was hauling manure out to the fields and when I was operating the bucket and I noticed that same kind of deal where the front edge was up off the ground a few inches too. The newer skid loader with the same bucket front edge was level with the ground and the operating speed of the bucket is quicker too. About 3 days @ 12 hours per day to empty out the manure pit. Every little bit of speed on the operating of the tilt of the bucket sure saves a lot of time at the end of a project!
Them 4 in 1 are nice for grabbing the stubborn stumps that keep falling out bucket or crap when your cleaning up
Thanks Chris, I really enjoyed this review. I’m a landscaper and I often try different machinery, very rarely is any one machine perfect, I’m always wishing I could amalgamate several in one.
I checked my swivel office chair underneath, couldn't find any hydraulic couplers so I decided to pass on this bucket test.....sorry Chris , you're on yer own on this one, just drag me along and I'm good to go.
Hi Chris , thanks for all the information and explaining and sharing your ideas .
I really appreciate you taking the time to do this and it has really helped me to know what to purchase and what did not purchase at least with regard to the ones you tried and I appreciate several other things that you showed me. Thank you very much sir
I have a removable tooth bar on mine, and it works great. I've really had it in some hard twists and have never had issues. Its a little more work swapping on and off, but much cheaper than 2 buckets. 👍
Honest and straight forward review , Good job Merry Christmas
I've got a 4n1 bucket and will have one on any machine I ever own takes the place of a couple of guys and it always shows up
Thanks for sharing your knowledge . also you explained the pluses and minuses well
@Christopher
Hello hope you are doing great
Will love to know you if you dont mind
@@jennifersmith8151 sounds good
DP will enjoy this one, thanks Chris, really enjoy watching your videos.
Dude get ya self a Norm 4in1. It will blow those buckets away
He tested one in January this year.
@@willemstreutgers1154 Why isnt he gonna use the Norm bucket? Seems odd
I procured a Virnig 10' snow pusher and Cat wheel loader for the company I work for. That pusher is a beast, works very well and made in Minnesota. Cat recommended it and now I know why. Very well made and designed. Really surprised you have the issue with the bucket level that you do.
It is a real testament to your skill to put 3-4 different buckets on and hit grade each time. Good points, I learned a few things. Thank you Chris!
Here in Sweden and other Nordic countries our grading buckets/scoops for loaders are commonly longer and lower, but it holds same volume..Loading up a truck you also reach longer in. Much nicer to work with even for snow!
Only way to do a good review is to work them in a work situation and you were the man bro. Honest and to the point too. Enjoyed the video as well. Safe travels
Having an owner/operator review the equipment is a good way to get the Companies to build better equipment.
Good review Chris!
I agree with you, the first one is better built. I would be half tempted to rebuild my bucket the way I want it and use thicker plate on the bottom
Nice video man! I’m with you that Construstion attachments bucket needs the shanks lowered they think they could have easily seen that. I guess that’s what I stick with the tooth bucket cause it’s a paladin bucket and the geometry is perfect for the Takeuchi
"It's simple geometry my dear Watson" nah really Sherlock 😂🤣😂🤣
Exactly !
@@littlefinkle7757 🤣🤣 preciously
I've been researching a lot of equipment recently, and get tired of looking at reviews where the person doing it never really uses it, and misses "minor details" which turn out to be important (or at least expensive) in the long run or someone who's simply doing a "sales pitch" for some company. Thanks for posting this review.
You got to love it when Christmas comes early
I had the same exact problem with my CA 4-1 bucket. It felt like I was always fighting with the bucket to hold grade. I’m a landscaper and mainly only do final grading. I sold that bucket after 100 hours or so. I actually met with Ted and his brother about the hitch plate height being off 3 years and I’m glad they finally fixed that. I ended up with a CID 4-1 and I love it but the cutting edges are all weld on. No bucket is perfect I’ve learned.
I can't help but think back, to that 4 in 1 from Australia, makes these look so cheap. That thing was a beast.
I like to back drag with the heel of the bucket, but a lot of buckets don't have heels anymore or they have wear plates that leave two deep ruts when you're trying to back drag, at least on some buckets, or buckets on larger loaders.
I believe you can add spacers to the machine adjust the resting block height
Chris thank you for the HEADS UP ON THE FOUR AND ONE BUCKET !!!!!!! ALSO ABOUT HOW THE CUTTING TEETH ON THE BUCKET THANKS. JUNKMANDO
And now it’s time for Chris’ Bucket List!!! 🚜
Yep. A Bucket list of items on the spec sheet of his design of bucket.
Did you consider one of those norm engineering high capacity buckets?
Chris i put bobcat bolt on shanks and teeth on my construction 4 attachment bucket working great
I think its preference I like my buckets like that second one you review, I don’t like mine resting against the bump stops
Merry Christmas and a happy new year!:)
Everything Attachments! Here in NC!
Hey Chris, just watch those hoses floping around, they will get caught in the pinch point of the arms, when that happens its a hydraulic shower time. That's no fun, no fun at all!! Have a great evening, and weekend!!!!!
been there!
I've got Verizon Stump Bucket with hydraulic grapple on New Holland l230. Use it to take out Cedar trees. It gets it every time. Can haul off trees with hydraulic grapple. Love It.
Chris your idea of toys is just fine but I wish my PORSCHE dealer would do this for me? 😳😉👍
Well I suppose that would be alright but does your Porsche have the lift capacity for these 4in1 buckets? Not to mention the hydraulic attachments? You might want to convert from tires to tracks. Not sure you have enough weight to get good enough traction to overcome the digging resistance of the teeth. Best of luck anyway :D
..a present for Christmas, to your skid steer....lol..
Somethings are simply junk. Designers never use their designs. Many never even get dirty.
Crazy idea and I know it will probably cost alot to do but have you thought about designing your own bucket like you did with the thumb on the Volvo?
Make it to your specs and what you will be doing with it might in the long run work better to your advantage that way.
Just an idea that might help some.
The last bucket I got from construction attachments had the teeth on like that. I flipped them over and they fit a little better, I thought they accidentally put them on upside down. I don't like the 1" thick cutting edge either, it doesn't cut as well as a 3/4" and the teeth are flush
Nice Pair of buckets Right there.i enjoyed the Review of all three buckets 😀.the 2 New ones i really liked a Lot . Nice grading you Can so with those 2 buckets although i agree on what you said about the Teeth and the shanks bot Matching Up with the bucket urself.awesome Review of hightech skidsteer equippment.keep Up the nice Videos and hope To See more vids if u have anything Else New To review👍
I Had a CA 4 BUCKET on my first machine bought in 2000 loved it. Just got a new machine this year and got the CA 4 BUCKET on it. Not pleased with the new one, very unhappy with it. Just like you said teeth ride higher than the cutting edge. Not only that the back cutting edge hangs lower than the bucket by one inch which makes grading very difficult ,you have to keep the bucket tilted down in order for the back cutting edge not to be digging in. There was nothing wrong with the old ones that I could see. Wish they had not fixed something that was not broke.
Have you ever seen the Hydra bucket from CMP Attachments? I have a Cat 257B, looking to get 1 bucket that can do it all. Cutting & grading dirt and maintaining a 1/2 mile gravel drive.
You need to get with AMI and have them make you a bucket. Beast mode
I love my new WR Long bucket on my B26 and SVL 75
I like the second one think it would fit nice on my 242D3 cat.
Chris, You need Norm Engineering from Australia yo send you a real 4in1 Bucket
Agree! Those are legit!
Great video. Damn it’s nice watching a video where the individual really knows what he’s talking about. Keep up the great work. I strictly run a road grader now, but I want to get me a Takeuchi tracked skid for my personal use. How do you rate this machine, compared to to a cat 289/299?
Really like your reviews. They tend to be more realistic than listening to the dealer.
Nice that they let an independent person give the review. They're holding their breath!
I thought the buckets were different in yesterday's video.
Yep, he started the testing early...
I didn't recognize them them either, but thought I may have missed something. This explains it! :D
I'll put this on my bucket list.
Got to get the Tilt attachment by Paladin Chris its a game changer 👍🏼
Yeah mike that’s what I’m looking to get soon after seen yours. 👍👍
@@DirtBrute yeah definitely buddy I use it every time I'm in the machine whether you want to or not !
@@DIRT-BOSS I could totally see why ! After watching in your video I was totally convinced I’m getting on
Seems to me R&D needs to go back to the drawing board
They'd be better off leaving the drawing board and getting some real life experiences with their prototypes! ;-)
Whatever happened to that Australian bucket you tried out a few years ago? That seemed like it cover most of the bases. I’m sure getting parts might be a pain but seemed ya really liked that one. Also I agree ami would something to try.
What about the floating action for when the bucket is flat, there would be none for down wards float,,,, I completely understand about strength being more stable against the blocks too though
Does your smooth bucket sit flat on the ground with the bump stops interlocked? Has your salesman described what Takeuchi Negative Dig is?
First look at the thumb nail and I thought all three buckets were attached to some contraption, so that you could do scrapping in one pass for a drive
Don't spend all your hard earned money in one spot Chris, but that is a Nice Bucket...is that on ur new bucket list. 😆
Hope you have a Great Holiday Season, Merry Christmas Chris..🎄☃️🎅
You can get those exact Paladin 4 in 1 buckets with teeth welded on
Time for Paladin to come out with a LD18 style bucket!!!
Sounds like the takeuchi sits lower, which is causing these problems. Just need the mount dropped down lower to fit.
And yes you can weld onto the bucket, just need filler metal to match the base material the best.
I’m surprised you haven’t got a custom bucket built to your specs.
Nice job Chris
Can you swap out the good teeth onto the bolt-on bucket? Will they fit?
How long until the LD18 model hits the market?
That sounded like a fair assessment, Chris.
Good video, want to see them cutting hard ground next please. :-)
pretty good review I'd say.
great reviews
The latch system seemed really exposed on the second bucket too.
Well Chris I definitely think the first bucket that you tried was the best by far other than the teeth not touching the ground with your boom all the way down and that would not be a hard fix to straighten it out all they would have to do is readjust their shanks so they’re your teeth would touch the ground when your boom is all the way down and the bucket laying flat on the ground so if I had to choose between the two of those new ones that you were trying out I would definitely take the first one because it’s a lot stronger built looking bucket but anyway to each his own and another great video you and John and your family stay safe brother and keep the videos coming
LD18 Custom SkidSteer Bucket 10/10 2021
Nice job 👍
Can’t wait to see you grade around a house or something with one of the other one of these 4 in 1s. That would be a real test for them.
I would’ve called Paladin and asked them how exactly you were posed to put that tooth bar on there with no holes haha.
What would u grade the Norm eng 4in1. I just bought a cat 299d3 and am going to get a 4in1 soon so would like to know if its worth trying to get the Norms bucket.
Very interesting.
Have you used any CID buckets?
CiD buckets are one the best i ever seen i have one and will buy another one
Very good rating
Grrrrrr8 video. Often thought of getting a 4 way bucket. I still getting along fine without one. Might be because I don't know the difference?
Can they make a spacer to make up the difference for the Takeuchi?
sweet buckets
good review..
Sounds like you need to talk to the guys at "AMI" I think it was that did your other LD18 bucket on the 220 ?? to design a LD18 Grading Bucket for the skid steer ?? Hummmm !! I bet they could come up with ya a Great one !! Great as always Man !! On to the Next...
AMI does make skid steer attachments, so not to far fetched.
at 17:14,is that hose resting on the ground?
You ever check out Jenkins attachments?
I see says the blind man as he grabs his bucket and squirrel. Ya you look like Mikey w his kubuta 😂
Construction Attachments and Land Pride ( Kubota ) are offering a long bottom 4 in 1 bucket now in 84" . I have a 299 scheduled to arrive soon and want a long bottom 4 in 1 bucket . Have you seen a long bottom yet