That ‘93 Suns team was special. Out of all the teams that faced the Bulls during the first three peat, they pushed them the hardest. Jordan really had to dig deep. Barkley, KJ, Thunder Dan, Dumas and Ceballos off the bench. Dope squad.
But kidding aside that is to this day one of my favorite teams of all time and maybe the main reason I became an obsessive NBA junkie nerd. The underrated Mark West and rookie Oliver Miller up front. Barkley, Tom goddamn Chambers, Ceballos, and Dumas at the forwards, Thunder Dan and KJ, AND Danny Ainge coming off another Finals appearance with Portland, not to mention solid veteran backup point Frankie Johnson and a young Negele Knight when it looked like he still had potential. When I think of most talented teams to never win a title, I put them first and nobody else is even close...except their 95 team with Wesley Person, AC Green, Wayman Tisdale, and Danny Manning added to the mix. If Manning doesn't shred his knee they take the West in a walk . But with only Joe Kleine and Danny Schayes up front may very well have lost to the Magic at the end.
Roy was a straight alcoholic! He was a lush when he played at Michigan but he was so talented. I remember him in the '88 West finals when he and the Mavericks almost beat the Lakers(losing in 7 hard fought games). He was giving Kareem the business, dragging his old washed up ass up and down the court.🤣
OMG I’m a huge Suns and 92 was the first season I really started watching basketball. This is the biggest what if ever. People don’t understand the Suns were in the middle of a 14 game winning streak when he joined the team and within a month he snatch the starting 3 spot and became a key part of our team success. It’s heart breaking
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. My Sonics could have had Rich Dumas in the 1991 draft, instead of rookie bust Rich King! Smart!
Props J.C.! Bro I appreciate your work. I intended to post a comment many hours ago. I’ve been really interested in a Stunted Growth Dumas drop. Richard Dumas was a talented hooper for real. The trajectory in which his life has taken is disheartening. May Richard Dumas persevere through his addictions. PEACE!
I’ve been talking about Richard Dumas for years! He was giving the Bulls ALL...THEY...WANTED in the Finals in 93. He had SO much potential and raw talent. Could have had a HOF career.
Kinda reminds me of Rumeal Robinson. Picked 10th overall in the draft but ended up going to prison after screwing his own mother over financially. Sad story.
One correction. The Suns GM at the time was Jerry Colangelo not Jerry West.😄 As far as Dumas goes, it’s a shame his career had to be destroyed due to drugs. Glad to see he’s living clean.
Respect to Mr. Dumas. A warrior is one who can defeat the enemy within, regardless of the length of the battle! I was a Barkley fan (on the court) growing up and the Suns losing to the Bulls hurt me. Folks talk about Lebron's lack of a killer gene when the pivotal game of that series had Pippen bringing the ball up and Kerr (or Paxson...I forget) hitting the game winning three (Jordan watched and trusted his team)…anyway. Dumas helped build that Suns Team. I remember his off-court issues then. I had no idea of the depth of the challenges he had. Respect to the man!
Wassup with Udonis Haslem Growth Spurt! I aint even know he was still in the league. 18 years on same team like Kobe, Dirk, Tim Duncan, Reggie Millar, and John Stockton. He was kept on the Heat for the man he is.
What a shame. Dumas, Mitchell Wiggins & Lewis Lloyd were 3 that I remember back then that got banned for the same reasons & they all could play well...
This is awesome! I just posted a comment a week ago that you should do a Richard Dumas stunted growth. As i've become familiar with your channel which is Amazing btw... i think Richard Dumas is the most stunted growth case that i was personally familiar with while growing up. He was exciting to watch, played with frenetic energy most times he hit the floor & could have been a 5 time allstar & possibly even a h.o.f. if he could have gotten his prob under control. Well based off how well he did when he actually played. Absolute steal of a second round pick.
Some people are exposed to things that they shouldn't be exposed to. And when they do, sometimes they can never recover and not find an alternative route to be successful in life. God bless Richard Dumas. I hope he is doing well.
WTF. So he shoplifts from a store he works at in 2011. Store just says "give us the stuff back and you're fired, we won't press charges". Then 3 years later he gets bagged for this crime and does three years in jail (for stealing less than 1000 worth of merchandise)? Is there more to this?
Bro I been waiting on this. I felt he was the only player on the Suns that could damage on both ends of the floor. He was a beast but unfortunately drugs did him in. Glad he has recovered. Great player!!
This was a great video, thank you for doing this. Richard Dumas was my favorite player, still is, and every now and then I look him up to see if there is any news. I wish he could have stayed clean, he had elite talent and the Suns would have won multiple championships with him. He scored almost at will, and had good defense to match.
I rememba how I wantd him & tha Suns 2 beat tha Bulls. His game wuz nice & wuz ery bit as athletic as Pippen & MJ...cept tha mind wuzn't ok. Salute 2 Richard Dumas...✌🏽🙂❤
Thank You for your great work!! I used to be a huge fan of his!! I didn’t even know much about his addiction problems! I thought he had just gotten hurt multiple times and that was the reason he ended up in Philly!! When he got here i remember telling my brother that this was gonna be where he would become a STAR!!!! Glad he is able to share his experience with others and help them!! 🙏🏼😎👍🏽
good one mengg, keep em coming...i think stunts #1 & 2 hurt him the most. he was unreal during that 93 playoffs run and stepped up for Ceballos after he got injured in the WCF. always wondered what happened to him after 96. Didn't know he got injured. One of the biggest "What If's" smmfh
i loved this dude as a kid. he was one of them tall lanky wings like Stacey Augmon that could jump out the gym on offense & bother shots with length on defense. too bad that 1 season was all we got. salute Richard Dumas i hope he’s doing well out there.
Respect to Dumas for not giving up. Grew up watching sun's 93 as a kid. Dumas was always my favorite player. All he ever wanted to do on the court was dunk it. Crazy athletic.
I played on this club basketball team called the West Valley Warriors when I was in 7th grade. The owner was this woman named Tameka and Richard Dumas and Oliver Miller were a few of the coaches. To this day I don’t know how she got them to be apart of the coaching staff. We were in 7th grade riding charter buses to out of state tournaments in 5 star hotels and the whole club team ended up being a scam and Tameka got arrested. Anyways, I got to know Dumas and he was such a nice guy but you could tell he has been through hell and high waters. So it’s cool watching this to learn more about my former coach.
Richard Dumas:played lights out at Oklahoma State And Phoenix...wish he had a long career if not for substance abuse...Interesting Fact:In his book bad as I Wanna be, before the worm was traded to the Spurs detroit made a deal to send the worm to Phoenix for Dumas but the trade was voided due to Dumas flunking a drug test..imagine if sir Chuck and the worm played together in Phoenix?...next up Bryant big country reeves...
Richard Dumas held most playoff points by a rookie beating david robinson and held it for about ten years. I came here from another video showing most playoff points by a rookie.
I remember Dumas making rhe cover of Street and Smiths college hoops edition for the 89-90 season. He ended up getting booted by Eddie Sutton and I totally forgot him. Then a few years later Im watching an early season NBA game and theres Dumas getting a shot on Phoenix and he looked EXTRAORDINARY. He reminded me a lot of Alvin Robertson in that he would just dog a ballhandler all over the court. That plus the fact that he was 6-7 with unbelivable athleticism and motor. He could have been an All-Star player. Shame it all fell apart for him.
Had family that know him around the neighborhood. I remember a story about him shooting a gun in the air to prove that the police wouldn't show up. He had talent it sucks how life can take such a left turn.
You know those channels that you watch that have a few good videos but then eventually you tell youtube not to recommend it anymore?...not stunted growth though. just hits different.
❤️Richard Dumas,Lloyd Daniels, DMX give crackheads hope! They realize it is possible and dreams come true, while your getting high asf🍳💯 That's what that Plymouth Rock do.
Was Richard Dumas going to be a great player without the addiction?
i think so. he was sooo good in 92-93 man. I rem that as a kid. I think he coulda been like a consistent 15-20 ppg scorer with the right team
You're doing all the hits lately! Seeing you're doing the guys I requested, dont forget Yinka Dare 😂😂😂
@@Classicbasketballdvds he was so good in the 93 playoffs when Ceballos got hurt. I was sure he was going to be a huge star.
@@kevinwillette5161 factz...he was the X factor imo
He definitely was
The fact he could play at a high level every night on a 6 pack of beer is crazy! Talk about talent! I’m not glorifying anything but sheesh
I think a lot of people let that fly above their head.
Right??? Folks have no idea how crazy that is. People can’t play that well sober. Lol 😂 Dude was still a beast.
@@thenewgunguy4870 Man that's some next level shit😂
@@md3dasnipa386 Right? 🤣🤣🤣
Man like mj up til 4am smoking cigars drinking bud lights the night before the game
Dumas was so terrific in the 93 NBA season and the series against the bulls. He's one of the biggest what if story still of the NBA.
Man I remember this cat. Totally forgot about him for awhile. He definitely popped on TV whenever checking into the game.
@@pmiahky agreed
Me and boys still talk about him and how pippen couldn’t do anything to stop him
That ‘93 Suns team was special. Out of all the teams that faced the Bulls during the first three peat, they pushed them the hardest. Jordan really had to dig deep. Barkley, KJ, Thunder Dan, Dumas and Ceballos off the bench. Dope squad.
That squad was really special...more on paper come the Finals unfortunately. It's 2021 and we're still waiting for KJ to show up to that series.
But kidding aside that is to this day one of my favorite teams of all time and maybe the main reason I became an obsessive NBA junkie nerd.
The underrated Mark West and rookie Oliver Miller up front. Barkley, Tom goddamn Chambers, Ceballos, and Dumas at the forwards, Thunder Dan and KJ, AND Danny Ainge coming off another Finals appearance with Portland, not to mention solid veteran backup point Frankie Johnson and a young Negele Knight when it looked like he still had potential.
When I think of most talented teams to never win a title, I put them first and nobody else is even close...except their 95 team with Wesley Person, AC Green, Wayman Tisdale, and Danny Manning added to the mix. If Manning doesn't shred his knee they take the West in a walk . But with only Joe Kleine and Danny Schayes up front may very well have lost to the Magic at the end.
I think Ceballos started. Tom Chambers came off the bench.
Correct💯 Charles was great but he couldn't stop MJ great series both Utah and Phoenix great series💯💪🏽🏀
@@jerometrio2603 hmm I would have to look it up, but Ceballos was injured for the playoffs.
Buddy was givin my dude pippen tha biness n tha finals...💯💯
Now this is stunted growth. I remember Richard Dumas and he absolutely had all-star level talent. Have you done one on Roy Tarpley?
Roy Tarpley would be a great one. That guy could have been a hall of famer
Possibly he was too young to remember how good Roy T was
Wasn’t harpley a 6-10 big for the Dallas Mavericks in the late 1980s & early 1990s?
He gave tha business to Ewing and Akeem back in the day high as a kite puttin In work and numbers
Roy was a straight alcoholic! He was a lush when he played at Michigan but he was so talented. I remember him in the '88 West finals when he and the Mavericks almost beat the Lakers(losing in 7 hard fought games). He was giving Kareem the business, dragging his old washed up ass up and down the court.🤣
OMG I’m a huge Suns and 92 was the first season I really started watching basketball. This is the biggest what if ever. People don’t understand the Suns were in the middle of a 14 game winning streak when he joined the team and within a month he snatch the starting 3 spot and became a key part of our team success. It’s heart breaking
His father was awful for giving alcohol to him as a child. Don't become a parent if you can't handle raising a kid.
Exactly.
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. My Sonics could have had Rich Dumas in the 1991 draft, instead of rookie bust Rich King! Smart!
LEGIT EXCITED FOR THIS VIDEO! I thought Dumas was next back in the day!
I loved his game as a kid I always wondered what happened to him.
Do you indulge in the booger sugar?
@@lolife1981 lol nah just hippy lettuce
Props J.C.!
Bro I appreciate your work. I intended to post a comment many hours ago. I’ve been really interested in a Stunted Growth Dumas drop. Richard Dumas was a talented hooper for real. The trajectory in which his life has taken is disheartening. May Richard Dumas persevere through his addictions. PEACE!
When the dude leaped, he always looked like he was dunking DOWNWARDS.
Suns were a great drafting team back then. Whoever their scouts were, sure knew what they were doing.
I’ve been talking about Richard Dumas for years! He was giving the Bulls ALL...THEY...WANTED in the Finals in 93. He had SO much potential and raw talent. Could have had a HOF career.
Kinda reminds me of Rumeal Robinson. Picked 10th overall in the draft but ended up going to prison after screwing his own mother over financially. Sad story.
Damn good call. I totally remember that name but nothing about the actual person.
one of the most interesting stories of the 1990s in my opinion
One correction. The Suns GM at the time was Jerry Colangelo not Jerry West.😄 As far as Dumas goes, it’s a shame his career had to be destroyed due to drugs. Glad to see he’s living clean.
Yeah it was definitely Jerry Colangelo. I was just about to mention that. Jerry West was working for the Lakers at the time.
✌️💯Salute
I was gonna comment that
Same here.
Met Richard two years ago. All we did was talk about old obscure NBA players. He was super chill and said he had no regrets in life.
One of the most athletic brothas dude could go,sorry to hear about his troubles
That Suns team had lots of guys who could be seen as stunted. I'd like to see one on Dan Majerle, AC Green and Cedric Ceballos at some point.
Id say more like Oliver Miller, who ate himself out of the NBA. Marjele, Ceballos and Green were all All-Stars and had good, long careers.
Respect to Mr. Dumas. A warrior is one who can defeat the enemy within, regardless of the length of the battle! I was a Barkley fan (on the court) growing up and the Suns losing to the Bulls hurt me. Folks talk about Lebron's lack of a killer gene when the pivotal game of that series had Pippen bringing the ball up and Kerr (or Paxson...I forget) hitting the game winning three (Jordan watched and trusted his team)…anyway. Dumas helped build that Suns Team. I remember his off-court issues then. I had no idea of the depth of the challenges he had. Respect to the man!
Wassup with Udonis Haslem Growth Spurt! I aint even know he was still in the league. 18 years on same team like Kobe, Dirk, Tim Duncan, Reggie Millar, and John Stockton. He was kept on the Heat for the man he is.
What a shame. Dumas, Mitchell Wiggins & Lewis Lloyd were 3 that I remember back then that got banned for the same reasons & they all could play well...
Roy Tarpley was another.
This is awesome! I just posted a comment a week ago that you should do a Richard Dumas stunted growth. As i've become familiar with your channel which is Amazing btw... i think Richard Dumas is the most stunted growth case that i was personally familiar with while growing up. He was exciting to watch, played with frenetic energy most times he hit the floor & could have been a 5 time allstar & possibly even a h.o.f. if he could have gotten his prob under control. Well based off how well he did when he actually played. Absolute steal of a second round pick.
Some people are exposed to things that they shouldn't be exposed to. And when they do, sometimes they can never recover and not find an alternative route to be successful in life. God bless Richard Dumas. I hope he is doing well.
WTF. So he shoplifts from a store he works at in 2011. Store just says "give us the stuff back and you're fired, we won't press charges". Then 3 years later he gets bagged for this crime and does three years in jail (for stealing less than 1000 worth of merchandise)? Is there more to this?
3 years probation, although its bullshit he was charged with 8 felonies. For like you said probably less than 500$ merchandise.
It's twist.. He said on another platform it was a military or government property he was working at.
Bruh Kwame brown straight dragging stack gil and matt barnes today lmaooooo he tired of the bs on his name
Bro I been waiting on this. I felt he was the only player on the Suns that could damage on both ends of the floor. He was a beast but unfortunately drugs did him in. Glad he has recovered. Great player!!
This was a great video, thank you for doing this. Richard Dumas was my favorite player, still is, and every now and then I look him up to see if there is any news. I wish he could have stayed clean, he had elite talent and the Suns would have won multiple championships with him. He scored almost at will, and had good defense to match.
I rememba how I wantd him & tha Suns 2 beat tha Bulls. His game wuz nice & wuz ery bit as athletic as Pippen & MJ...cept tha mind wuzn't ok. Salute 2 Richard Dumas...✌🏽🙂❤
Thank You for your great work!! I used to be a huge fan of his!! I didn’t even know much about his addiction problems! I thought he had just gotten hurt multiple times and that was the reason he ended up in Philly!! When he got here i remember telling my brother that this was gonna be where he would become a STAR!!!! Glad he is able to share his experience with others and help them!! 🙏🏼😎👍🏽
As a Chicago Bulls fan, Dumas and Barkley were the two players that concerned me during the 93 Finals.
I had his jersey. Didn't even know this about him until now😳🙏
good one mengg, keep em coming...i think stunts #1 & 2 hurt him the most. he was unreal during that 93 playoffs run and stepped up for Ceballos after he got injured in the WCF. always wondered what happened to him after 96. Didn't know he got injured. One of the biggest "What If's" smmfh
He was my favorite player at one point
I was waiting for this story, I always wondered what happened to him.
I know him hope he makes it. Thanks for this 1.
He was a special kind of guy to be able to play like that while drinking. That’s unfortunate and I hate that happened to him at such a young age
Imagine a fully focused, disciplined, clean Richard Dumas. This man could've been one of the all-time greats. What a shame.
i loved this dude as a kid. he was one of them tall lanky wings like Stacey Augmon that could jump out the gym on offense & bother shots with length on defense. too bad that 1 season was all we got. salute Richard Dumas i hope he’s doing well out there.
i play with him in puerto rico when he was suspended from the nba great guy god bless him
Respect to Dumas for not giving up. Grew up watching sun's 93 as a kid. Dumas was always my favorite player. All he ever wanted to do on the court was dunk it. Crazy athletic.
We you to say his 3ball was a lay up lmao 😂 he had it on auto fire like Rob Horry
I played on this club basketball team called the West Valley Warriors when I was in 7th grade. The owner was this woman named Tameka and Richard Dumas and Oliver Miller were a few of the coaches. To this day I don’t know how she got them to be apart of the coaching staff. We were in 7th grade riding charter buses to out of state tournaments in 5 star hotels and the whole club team ended up being a scam and Tameka got arrested. Anyways, I got to know Dumas and he was such a nice guy but you could tell he has been through hell and high waters. So it’s cool watching this to learn more about my former coach.
Richard Dumas:played lights out at Oklahoma State And Phoenix...wish he had a long career if not for substance abuse...Interesting Fact:In his book bad as I Wanna be, before the worm was traded to the Spurs detroit made a deal to send the worm to Phoenix for Dumas but the trade was voided due to Dumas flunking a drug test..imagine if sir Chuck and the worm played together in Phoenix?...next up Bryant big country reeves...
Loved Dumas.
He was sooooo good!!
Breaks my heart. So much damn talent!
Richard Dumas is a friend of mine he finally beat those demons only if he could of 30 years ago... he is a cool humble guy....
THIS IS WHAT "LEN BIAS" GAME WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE....May he Rest in Peace.🕊
Richard Dumas held most playoff points by a rookie beating david robinson and held it for about ten years. I came here from another video showing most playoff points by a rookie.
Man, why did you go back to those old thumbnails. The others were lit af!!!
He was amazing
Played against Dumas when we were in the XBA a defunct semi pro league in NC. After games he was drinking beers like Gatorade.
😅
Very good episode. I never saw him play before.
did you do a video on Rodney White yet?
Was my basketball coach in Az with Tisdale! Such a talent sad!!😍😫
Damn Such a Real Story...... Can Happen to the Best of them.💯
Man I remember this cat...dude had next if it wasn’t for those damn demons.
Do Vernon Maxwell he had talent and his issues shortened his prime.
He was ballin with the suns.
I remember Dumas making rhe cover of Street and Smiths college hoops edition for the 89-90 season. He ended up getting booted by Eddie Sutton and I totally forgot him.
Then a few years later Im watching an early season NBA game and theres Dumas getting a shot on Phoenix and he looked EXTRAORDINARY.
He reminded me a lot of Alvin Robertson in that he would just dog a ballhandler all over the court. That plus the fact that he was 6-7 with unbelivable athleticism and motor.
He could have been an All-Star player. Shame it all fell apart for him.
I know this Brother...Whew hard to Guard(A scoring Machine)Played against him in the late 90s in different Countries
Dam how could he play on a 6 pac of beer at nba level.
One of my favorite players as a kid
Wow never heard of him.. he had hops though!!
6:32 Richard in Pekaes Pruszków ( Poland ) He played about only 5 games with 25 ppg ( in every game he was drunk )
Damn Fam.
Heavy.
Ps Much Gratitude
I remember my unc and him going and getting crack in the hood. 13th ave and Buckeye
When Shaq makes fun of Barkley for not having a championship Berkeley can blame Richard Dumas for not having a championship
Barkley can blame himself mj told yall he didnt have what it took to win a chip
I always wondered if we were related by the last name. 💪🏿 🏀
Bulls suns triple overtime Dumas was on point. Kid played good during the finals
Biggest what could have been story in the NBA.
Had family that know him around the neighborhood. I remember a story about him shooting a gun in the air to prove that the police wouldn't show up. He had talent it sucks how life can take such a left turn.
He was a Beast.
I wish he could have kicked those demons.
Dude has a good card in 2kMyteam 😂
Only reason I know him
Facts
Yea the pink diamond 💎
I was compared to him in school.. Sad. Because at the time he was a beast. Now I see we both was f@@#n up!!!
This was my dude back in the day . I still have his card in mint condition
Stunted growth lowkey roasted this dude in the intro
Bro you gotta go deep in history and do Roy Tarpley
I think he would of done better in the current NBA.
Rich..... that was my teammate on a semi pro team in Wilmington nc
Yo JC how bout a video on one of my absolute favorite players to watch since UNLV shawn "matrix"marion baby come on lets get it!!!!😝😁😁
Damn it!
See how low the mighty can fall.
We all learn.
Addiction is a disease! So at this point, hurt people for getting high is past unreasonable.
He was one called Dr. J with a jump shot. Scottie Pippen knows all about him.
I think Dumas could've been an all star level player, but drugs can ruin a good person and their talents. I hope he is clean and doing well.
doomboom is a hell of a guy. had some wings with him in Hooters haha
You know those channels that you watch that have a few good videos but then eventually you tell youtube not to recommend it anymore?...not stunted growth though. just hits different.
8:03 YEAH!! John Paxson!! I HATE the Phoenix Suns! (because I'm a Sonics and Blazers fan)
Can you do a stunted growth on Roy Tarpley?
In Lithuanian, Dūmas means smoke. It's ironic that his career did just that, it vanished like a smoke.
Waiting on the movie
Do Roy Tarpley
❤️Richard Dumas,Lloyd Daniels, DMX give crackheads hope! They realize it is possible and dreams come true, while your getting high asf🍳💯 That's what that Plymouth Rock do.
Every now and than his name is brought up in Tulsa
EDDIE.
ROBINSON.
"Get High and Dunk Everything"
good video. have u ever heard of roy tarpley? antoine jubert?
Very Sad Story. Actually know him personally and the Spice/K2 plus alcohol ruined him
Another banger!!! U and Flemlo Raps, (football version of u, ever check him out? ).... my dudes!!!✌🏾
🙏🏾 salute Flem