I love how you build your logical “argument.” I served in the US Navy in 1986 and stores in Norfolk, Va were closed on Sundays. Thank you for this wonderful social history/theological lecture.
Thanks again Dr. Wright. In my country the neo-captalists are calling for 90 hrs. of work. And zealous missionaries are pressing 100 hrs of work in light of the 2nd advent. Thanks for the new enlightenment of fulfilled time and Jubilee. Shabbat Shalom
Expository, theoretical and practical, as always. Ministering in fields of great need and little help (like evangelism of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Sikhs in the West) is like running a MASH unit: It seems selfish to take time to oneself in the midst of a battlefield. Some of our workers are grappling with the need to suffer for Christ and his gospel, vs. personal health and rest. Prayers appreciated.
if Jews were part of the early church, I cant imagine them dumping the sabbath, especially if they thought circumcision was important. Or did new creation completely upend that 7th day sabbath? or did they view the messiah as the fulfillment of the shabbat?
@vegacool1 for starters, please carefully read Romans 14:5-9 and Galatians 4:9-11. The question is not whether any Christians kept the sabbath, but whether Christians need to keep it. Put another way, does keeping the sabbath impart holiness to Christians? How do you answer, based on Scripture?
@bruceboettcher9977 I'm asking the historical question. I understand the law doesn't save or justify anyone. Just trying to understand the silence on the subject from the Jewish community.
The Sabbath is the Sabbath, it doesn’t change. Jesus went on "working" in ministry just as a high priest would light fires and administer the altar and it’s sacrifices. Christ would never ignore the Sabbath, He is law and judge. [Matthew 5:17,18].
Amen. Jesus didn't need to remind the rich young ruler about keeping the seventh day Sabbath. As a Jew, it would have been unthinkable for him not to keep the Sabbath. He would have been thrown out of the synagogue and been an outcast. As to Paul writing to mostly gentiles in Romans about the Sabbath. Let us not forget that many of the early gentile Christians were also antisemitic and didn't want to be associated in any way with Judaism by keeping the Jewish sacraments. Also, the early Christian church was trying (and succeeding) in converting many pagans whose various religions and traditions worshiped on Sundays because of the Sun God. The Apostle Paul definitely knew his audience. Until I can find in any one of the 66 books that comprise the Holy Bible a clear directive that changes the Fourth Commandment clearly reminding us to keep the seventh day, to now keep the first day, I will continue to keep the Sabbath.
There in NO LAW in the New Testament. Every day is the Lord's Day. God is not bound by time - the Holy spirit shows that every day, all the time is a sabbath- every thing has changed.
@ Isaiah 2:2-4. I find Christians don’t read their Bible. Here it clearly explains what will occur when the real Messiah comes. Sadly we know this hasn’t been fulfilled. Nowhere in the Old Testament does it say the Messiah would be killed and be resurrected.
Excellent Word!
Thank you N.T. Wright
This was an encouraging message. Thank you so much Professor NT Wright. I truly appreciate it. God bless you!
Thank you for this teaching.
I love how you build your logical “argument.” I served in the US Navy in 1986 and stores in Norfolk, Va were closed on Sundays. Thank you for this wonderful social history/theological lecture.
Thanks again Dr. Wright. In my country the neo-captalists are calling for 90 hrs. of work. And zealous missionaries are pressing 100 hrs of work in light of the 2nd advent. Thanks for the new enlightenment of fulfilled time and Jubilee. Shabbat Shalom
Excellent word
Expository, theoretical and practical, as always.
Ministering in fields of great need and little help (like evangelism of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Sikhs in the West) is like running a MASH unit: It seems selfish to take time to oneself in the midst of a battlefield.
Some of our workers are grappling with the need to suffer for Christ and his gospel, vs. personal health and rest. Prayers appreciated.
if Jews were part of the early church, I cant imagine them dumping the sabbath, especially if they thought circumcision was important. Or did new creation completely upend that 7th day sabbath? or did they view the messiah as the fulfillment of the shabbat?
@vegacool1 for starters, please carefully read Romans 14:5-9 and Galatians 4:9-11. The question is not whether any Christians kept the sabbath, but whether Christians need to keep it. Put another way, does keeping the sabbath impart holiness to Christians?
How do you answer, based on Scripture?
@bruceboettcher9977 I'm asking the historical question. I understand the law doesn't save or justify anyone. Just trying to understand the silence on the subject from the Jewish community.
The Sabbath is the Sabbath, it doesn’t change. Jesus went on "working" in ministry just as a high priest would light fires and administer the altar and it’s sacrifices. Christ would never ignore the Sabbath, He is law and judge. [Matthew 5:17,18].
Amen. Jesus didn't need to remind the rich young ruler about keeping the seventh day Sabbath. As a Jew, it would have been unthinkable for him not to keep the Sabbath. He would have been thrown out of the synagogue and been an outcast.
As to Paul writing to mostly gentiles in Romans about the Sabbath. Let us not forget that many of the early gentile Christians were also antisemitic and didn't want to be associated in any way with Judaism by keeping the Jewish sacraments. Also, the early Christian church was trying (and succeeding) in converting many pagans whose various religions and traditions worshiped on Sundays because of the Sun God. The Apostle Paul definitely knew his audience.
Until I can find in any one of the 66 books that comprise the Holy Bible a clear directive that changes the Fourth Commandment clearly reminding us to keep the seventh day, to now keep the first day, I will continue to keep the Sabbath.
There in NO LAW in the New Testament. Every day is the Lord's Day. God is not bound by time - the Holy spirit shows that every day, all the time is a sabbath- every thing has changed.
Isaiah and Micah have Messianic Prophecies that Jesus didn’t fulfill. Jesus is a fraud. He isn’t the Messiah.
Wow. If that's true, many of us are in big trouble. Please show us your proof. I'm listening.
he didnt fulfill...Yet. he comes in two comings, the first as Yosef and the second as David. He is no fraud
@ Isaiah 2:2-4. I find Christians don’t read their Bible. Here it clearly explains what will occur when the real Messiah comes. Sadly we know this hasn’t been fulfilled. Nowhere in the Old Testament does it say the Messiah would be killed and be resurrected.