So, I bought the set and it's brilliant! The segment calculator is even more brilliant! I'm doing a 15-sided jewelry box and while I couldn't cut the pieces on the table saw, the calculator was spot on as I ended up cutting on our sliding miter. It looks SO good ... so far. Not done yet. I will be using the tool to make the lid. Three tiers: first fixed with 3 drawers. It all fits perfectly with the calculator. The second tier is fixed to the bottom, but has 5-space dividers, and with the calculator, it was a breeze to cut. The top tier swivels off of the first, to expose the second tier fully. Also, the top tier has a hidden hinge to reveal the top compartments. Not sure how I'm going to do the top. So many options. But the segment calculator will be key. You know, I almost like the segment calculator more than the tool ... but when the stock is long enough ... the tool is awesome.
Wow. This method is brilliant. I have a home shop, but do a lot of work as a volunteer in a local over 50 woodshop. Those miter gages are less than accurate. SO happy to have found this video on my UA-cam rabbit hole treck. I ordered the combo set through your link as well as downloaded your segment calculator. Perfect timing too because I have an idea to build a quarter column corner cabinet for a tiny bathroom with no storage. Thanks!
Holy schnike!! Phone says there’s a Jackman Works video out! Drop everything and grab the iPad. The big one with the 12.9 inch screen. Got a laugh out of me and it wasn’t even a fart joke. Thanks for posting!
Love the spreadsheet! It is some kind of AWSOME. I have bought the miter set but determining the length was what threw me for a loop most of the time. Thanks for a Great Video that explained it all in plan English.
We wish this video came out a month ago, when we were working on our segmented ring. Boy, did we struggle to get the right angle and size of each piece. Your system looks so much easier, Thanks for the informative video. P.S. You really DO have the best editing!
Thank you for the free calculator, it is very useful. Do you have any suggestions or tools on working out the width of the segments to arrive at a desired width of the ring itself? I want to minimize the amount of wasted material and arrange the pieces in such a way that the inner joint points form the inner diameter and the middle of the outer sections form the outer diameter of the ring mark that width of the ring, so minimal material is wasted.
Hi, I have downloaded the calculator but when it opens I can not change any number in your spread sheet. Not sure what is happening. Do you have any ideas? Thank you Ron
If you need to calculate the size of the segments you could use this formula. 2*(r*Tan(360/2*x) ) x = number of segments. r = radius of the ring. Reduced. r/1.2071 for 8 segments r/1.5388 for 10 segments And so on.
Fantastic Calculator! and free!!!! my only question having used the calculator but not made any rings yet, does the board length include wastage from saw kerf? or should I add 1/8" to my total board length per segment?
Checking out your website and seeing you offer plans for sale, do you make your own woodworking plans or does someone do that for you? And if you do, what program do you use? Google Sketchup? Thanks
You failed to put a place for board thickness or board width in your formula. I can't get it to work??? I.e. diameter (of inside), board thickness (or board width), your example - 3.5 inch thick wood in your example. Is diameter - outside diameter of the circle?? Or inside??
Wait, you have rules? Since when? Good video, Paul. I wish the MitreSet was available for use on my saw, i.e. European style I guess... Thanks for sharing!
Paul, I know this might be a bit to ask, but I have seen a lot of you makers in the States using this jig and it seems really cool. I currently own the Metabo TKHS 315M 3.1 WNB site saw. Would you be willing to tell me if this gauge would work for this saw? As it is I use a sled in a rail that I have added to the saw and a simple angle finder to make my segments, but it's an imperfect science and I am very interested in purchasing one of these, but being from Europe I don't know if this tool will work with my saw. Thanks for any help in advance and great tips!
Oh yeah! Been looking for a method for doing circular segments and this is it! Bought the set so expect a big check;) Now about your video presentation... I had some difficulty understanding your narration. Would you consider slowing down just a bit and enunciate more clearly? You tended to mumble and speak a bit to fast and with the timbre of your voice, it came across as somewhat garbled. No offense, ok? Just a suggestion. Thanks for the video and showcasing the Miter Set!
The easiest way is with that Miterset jig I showed and the table saw. Use my spreadsheet and it'll give you the right dimensions. (I've also seen segmented rings made with a miter saw without the jig, but it's trickier to do)
I watched this video several times but you did not say anything about having to flip the board after each cut. I happened to find a video in which they mentioned you had to flip the board
So, I bought the set and it's brilliant! The segment calculator is even more brilliant! I'm doing a 15-sided jewelry box and while I couldn't cut the pieces on the table saw, the calculator was spot on as I ended up cutting on our sliding miter. It looks SO good ... so far. Not done yet. I will be using the tool to make the lid. Three tiers: first fixed with 3 drawers. It all fits perfectly with the calculator. The second tier is fixed to the bottom, but has 5-space dividers, and with the calculator, it was a breeze to cut. The top tier swivels off of the first, to expose the second tier fully. Also, the top tier has a hidden hinge to reveal the top compartments. Not sure how I'm going to do the top. So many options. But the segment calculator will be key.
You know, I almost like the segment calculator more than the tool ... but when the stock is long enough ... the tool is awesome.
your spread sheet is the most accurate calculator I found thank you so much !
Glad it was helpful!
Wow. This method is brilliant. I have a home shop, but do a lot of work as a volunteer in a local over 50 woodshop. Those miter gages are less than accurate. SO happy to have found this video on my UA-cam rabbit hole treck. I ordered the combo set through your link as well as downloaded your segment calculator. Perfect timing too because I have an idea to build a quarter column corner cabinet for a tiny bathroom with no storage. Thanks!
The spread sheet is super cool! Thanks so much for including that.
Holy schnike!! Phone says there’s a Jackman Works video out! Drop everything and grab the iPad. The big one with the 12.9 inch screen. Got a laugh out of me and it wasn’t even a fart joke. Thanks for posting!
Love the spreadsheet! It is some kind of AWSOME. I have bought the miter set but determining the length was what threw me for a loop most of the time. Thanks for a Great Video that explained it all in plan English.
We wish this video came out a month ago, when we were working on our segmented ring. Boy, did we struggle to get the right angle and size of each piece. Your system looks so much easier, Thanks for the informative video.
P.S. You really DO have the best editing!
Thank You alot! Your work and generousity saved me a great amount of time! Looking forward to new projects from You. Chears from Ukraine!
Those two left hands in the same picture. :-) Thank you for making great content Paul!
hahaha! i missed that! 0:40
Thank you for sharing this information I just placed an order yesterday for me Mater segment jig
Thanks for the teaser Paul; looking forward to tomorrow’s video 👍👍👍👍
i just have to say, you have the best editing.
The best the best editing
Thanks for sharing, hope you and your family are safe
Speed square for tabel saw cut circles, nice.
Speed square? I think you commented on the wrong video lol
Thanks for your informative video. Great editing
I just bought both tonight from your link. Thanks for the share.
Very talented way of work, thanks for sharing it with us 🙏🏼
Thank you so much, this was quite helpful! So appreciate your efforts.
Oooo...cool little Easter egg hint of the project at the end! Thanks for sharing this...I might need to pick up one of those miter sets.
Thank you. I had a request for 16inch rings last night and never done segmented rings before
you have the best editing!
Great tutorial. You really hit it out of the park
Not sure what I will use it for, but I can't wait to try this.
Paul, "ya just hafta keep us in suspense!!!" 😁. ALWAYS look forward to your videos my friend!!! GREAT VIDEOS too!!! 👍👍👍
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing this!
Good, helpful info. I'll keep this in mind if I start segmented turning in the future. Thanks Mr. Yakman!
Thanks for the file!
KB
Thanks for the spread sheet. I'll give it a try.
Commenting for UA-cam algorithm
Always so professional and well done
Definitely interested in seeing what this becomes, it's was great to meet you the other day.
Thanks for the detail! Whenever I get a table saw...
Thank you for the free calculator, it is very useful. Do you have any suggestions or tools on working out the width of the segments to arrive at a desired width of the ring itself? I want to minimize the amount of wasted material and arrange the pieces in such a way that the inner joint points form the inner diameter and the middle of the outer sections form the outer diameter of the ring mark that width of the ring, so minimal material is wasted.
Nice job Paul!
Can I ask what brand of guide rail clamps you are using on your fence there?
"The best editing," killed me
Great information in this video! Much appreciated, sir!
Nicely done, Paul.
Hi, I have downloaded the calculator but when it opens I can not change any number in your spread sheet. Not sure what is happening. Do you have any ideas?
Thank you Ron
Jack we're can I buy mitre set. Amazing
I know what this is for :-D as soon as I get my new table saw, I'm getting one of these miter sets, love them! 🤓👍
That looked easy. I want to get one now just to see if it is that ease or if your using video editing tricks...
Thanks - great video and tool!!!
If you need to calculate the size of the segments you could use this formula.
2*(r*Tan(360/2*x) )
x = number of segments.
r = radius of the ring.
Reduced.
r/1.2071 for 8 segments
r/1.5388 for 10 segments
And so on.
Or.... you could just use a spreadsheet that does all that math for you ;)
You don't have to set the tablesaw blade at a different degree than 90?
Nope, keep the saw at 90 and just adjust the angle of your miter gauge, it's super easy
@@JackmanWorks Is it 20 pieces @ 9° = 180
Your best editing is the best! :D
You do have the best editing...
sweet your making a huge BB8, looking forward to see the bad boy
Haha close enough!
Nice chair!
You're one smart cookie
Most excellent editing 🤣
Very cool video Paul. I love the build that is on the way, tomorrow :)
MiterSet lools pretty sweet. Will need to save my pesos for that!
The best Jerry the best.
Good stuff. There is a couple decent android apps that convert segment lengths and angles as well.
Just love your work, vids are brilliant too
Sorry to bring back a topic from 2 years ago. Quick question, does the stock width matter with the excel calculator?
mucho gracias desde España Thank You alot helpfull info
Fantastic Calculator! and free!!!! my only question having used the calculator but not made any rings yet, does the board length include wastage from saw kerf? or should I add 1/8" to my total board length per segment?
It includes the waste from the kerf plus the little bit on the end of the board that is usually too small to cut, so don’t add anymore waste to that
Were does a guy get that angle jag ?
I can not BELIEVE I have never seen a miterset before
Enjoyed the video, thanks!
It looked pretty simple until you showed the whole spreadsheet. Keep up the great work, Paul!
Where can a person get that angle guage you are using
bit.ly/2INoKat
What did you use to stick the segments together? Glue, biscuits, both??
Just glue
Tried to buy from the link provided. Added to the cart but could not proceed to make purchase.
Any one knows the specific angle for a cathedral frame ( Gothic style / church frame ) ? I mainly glue bulky segments then cut using a band saw
Thanks for this, really helpful! Do you glue the wood together on their edges or do you make any tongue and groove or biscuit joints etc?
Checking out your website and seeing you offer plans for sale, do you make your own woodworking plans or does someone do that for you? And if you do, what program do you use? Google Sketchup? Thanks
First! ..... Thanks for the info Paul! 👍👊
Thanks for sharing this tip Paul. I definitely need to get a miter set for sure. Also, did you hire Foureyes’ guitar player for this video? 🤷♂️
I didn't but I probably should!
Love mine.
You failed to put a place for board thickness or board width in your formula. I can't get it to work??? I.e. diameter (of inside), board thickness (or board width), your example - 3.5 inch thick wood in your example. Is diameter - outside diameter of the circle?? Or inside??
How would you do one that has 52 segments in one ring
Thanks for the Info Mr Jackman, You are the best :)
Wait, you have rules? Since when? Good video, Paul. I wish the MitreSet was available for use on my saw, i.e. European style I guess... Thanks for sharing!
There's rules but I don't know what they are, so are they're really rules?
Bonne vidéo, je me croyais chez Franck Howard 😀.
What do you use the rings for?
Yes, but how do you cut your segmented perfect squares? I've been using a speed square but they keep going TRAPEZOIDAL!!! :P
Paul, I know this might be a bit to ask, but I have seen a lot of you makers in the States using this jig and it seems really cool. I currently own the Metabo TKHS 315M 3.1 WNB site saw. Would you be willing to tell me if this gauge would work for this saw? As it is I use a sled in a rail that I have added to the saw and a simple angle finder to make my segments, but it's an imperfect science and I am very interested in purchasing one of these, but being from Europe I don't know if this tool will work with my saw. Thanks for any help in advance and great tips!
You also have this in MM or only inches
It's not unit dependent, whatever unit you input is the same unit it spits out, so you can input mm and it'll give you mm as a result
Make a wooden toilet next!!
Question, hopefully this makes sense. Is your spreadsheet set up to measure the inside diameter of the ring or the outside?
According to response from others, it's the outside diameter
Hi I've just downloaded your spread sheet but how do I view it in metric? Love the video and cant wait to try it out.
There is no metric version, but the input and output dimensions are the same, so it doesn't matter
segmented ring calculator is very helpful thank you! Question - is the diameter specified in it ID or OD?
OD
@@JackmanWorks does that mean the thickness of the stock matters?
@@mshah194 only matters for how thick you want the final piece and also how steep your steps are
@@JackmanWorks Will try it again. Was working with 1.5" stock and it didn't work the first time.
Nice!
Oh yeah! Been looking for a method for doing circular segments and this is it! Bought the set so expect a big check;)
Now about your video presentation... I had some difficulty understanding your narration. Would you consider slowing down just a bit and enunciate more clearly? You tended to mumble and speak a bit to fast and with the timbre of your voice, it came across as somewhat garbled. No offense, ok? Just a suggestion. Thanks for the video and showcasing the Miter Set!
Muito bom !!!
0:55, woah slow down, my brain! 😂
He's making a huge shotglass - I just know it.
So...a bucket.;?
wooden ruler? what are you, a caveman? don't you have a #SqWAYre?
That clamp strap, or any way like that will not be perfectly round. You need to check eeach diameter after glueing , believe me I do know.
20 segments = 40 cuts. 360 ÷ 40 cuts = 9° cuts.
(πr² ) ÷ # of cuts = external cut length
Exactly! There were a couple dozen rings in this project though so I wouldn't want to do that math each time, that's what the spreadsheet is for ;)
Can you get rings larger like 10 feet ?
sure, you just have to scale everything up, the same technique will work though
@@JackmanWorks cool what tools will i need the same as you or what???
The easiest way is with that Miterset jig I showed and the table saw. Use my spreadsheet and it'll give you the right dimensions. (I've also seen segmented rings made with a miter saw without the jig, but it's trickier to do)
Gracias JW from Wuhan City, China.
Hallo I' m from Italy and a I' d like to have the spreadsheet in cm?
Thank for all 😊
The spreadsheet will work for both inches and cm
@@JackmanWorks thank you the spreadsheet is real eccezionale 😊
Next time I need to cut a segmented piece, I'll just ask, WWMJD?
WWMJD should be trending man. He's actually going to be making an appearance in today's video 😃
You realy do hav the bist ediding!
I watched this video several times but you did not say anything about having to flip the board after each cut. I happened to find a video in which they mentioned you had to flip the board
You're commenting on a video where I show me cutting and flipping the board...
@@JackmanWorks but did you say it? Think of the children.
Crazy math! 🤔
haha that's why I do it for you!
Jackman Works THANKS!!