I Interviewed A Cheat Developer (Destroyer2009)
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- I Interviewed A Cheat Developer Destroyer2009
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for him the fun of the game is to get better at developing cheats instead of getting better at movement/aiming
which ironically will lead to a more successful career as those skills are worth a lot of money
@@SwissExperiments Not sure of the fruitful opportunities from Belarus but indeed.
@@D0omC0okie bruh he’s obviously recovering to selling cheats online lmao, ppl have bought houses off popular cheats they developed
@@146ix yeah i know runescape players who dont have to work because they run bot scripts to sell gold lmfao
@@SwissExperiments True, I work in cyber sec (Specifically malware development) and have experimented with game cheats (never actually cheated on an online match but have experimented with EAC bypasses and hardware ID spoofing to bypass bans on test machines) and the funny thing is his skills in cheat developing are also useful in cyber security because bypassing anti cheat systems are so similar to bypassing antiviruses. He literally could make 75k$ dollars a month from that if he was good enough at it simply by using his skills for good
one example is we use indirect syscalls and custom kernel drivers to bypass antiviruses and in cheat development they also use indirect syscalls and kernel drivers for the same purpose of bypassing security solutions
or he could just sell and make more cheats and make money off of that like he is doing too i guess. But yeah it is really ironic ngl
This video gonna blow up after the algs drama
hi. im here after the ALGS drama lol
I'm in this comment and i DO like it
I’m here for it
same here
Definitely
“I play legit in silver, but it’s boring” = I suck at the game and don’t want to spend time to actually get better so fuck everyone else.
idk use a high reward skill( coding)or waste my time playing a game to improve in a game lol
"using a high reward skill" doesnt matter when you destroy the fun for everyone else and knowing yourself what you do is wrong @@koi5813 besides, I work in IT myself and he most likely just copied the code from someone else and tweaked it... no need for high coding skills
and than still plays 6 fucking hours every day
if you can code you should have a brain enough to have some game sense, games are easy these people are just lame and dont know what hard work feels like@@koi5813
"im better than pro players because i have 40kd with cheats." yes and Im richer too because I have money trainer in GTA
This aged well
"I don't have time." But plays 6 hours a day. Lmao
Just play and invest your time to improve is different and obviosly take more than 6 hours per day. Especially if you mnk player and dont have some born talent like Hardeki.
@@AntaryMW2 you're dumb asf a casual play can get better by playing 6 hours a day everyday. you dont gotta be a full time streamer plaay apex 8-12 hours a day just to get good. even 4 hours is good enough
>plays 6hrs a day
>stuck on silver
@@goldkaban that’s why he cheats, duh
@@AntaryMW2 First of all, MnK is better (and way more fun) than Controller. Secondly: More than 6 hours per day? I mean, even if you cut back on sleep, you realise normal people still have to like, work for a living?
Rust started a whole villain arc with this man
lets be real, he was probably cheating in the first place, the false ban thing sounded like some bs
For sure, dude said he sucks at the game but got false banned. Shit dont add up @@TrevorLaVigne
@@TrevorLaVigne Its probably because he's already starting to learn how to hack and stuff in those early rust days, and the tools he use (for learning purposes) got detected by rust anti cheat. So even tho he only uses those "tools" for learning, rust deemed it as a hacking attempt thus giving him a false hardware ban. Sucks, but it boost his motivation to get better at hacking/cheating.
@@xeqqail3546 There is so many false ban that i kinda believe that tbh.
Hes not a villain hes did what was right to show how ez it is to hack a game if you have a good understanding of computer science and rev eng. I really think he did nothing wrong. He wanted them to patch it and EA is so.... slow to do so in any game. It wasn't even till recent that they put a Ok anti-cheat on this game and there others. Even tho it's no faceit. It has a way better chance to stop people then the one they had before.
"making developers think about the game, you are smoking the sassa"
And Destroyer2009 took that personally lmao
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This is the comment that we need 😅
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lmaao man really stood to his word
Damn did Mande end up eating his words BIG time LOL
Ahhh man life's a trip, que no esse?
I work 9 hours a day and maintain relationships with my friends and my wife, and I still would rather get to diamond the hard way than to cheat for pred
What's funny is he started off by saying that he cheats because he has other commitments in life and then less than a minute later admits that he plays the game for 6 hours a day.
i work 8-10 hours and i am at master level, but i am very competitive, i just can't understand the thought process, there is no greater joy in gaming, especially BR, when you finally get good at the game, especially on mnk.
@@BosnianHead mate you’re just built different apparently. Haha
@@Salaryman_ nah i am not, i have two more friends that i play with, and for last few seasons we were regulary diamonds, i just played a bit more this season and got to master, also i have 4,7k hours in game 🤣
Who asked? 🤓
Game aside:
If this man has been building this code himself, he has some serious job opportunities in the future. It isn’t exactly simple to create this type of code or have a full stack understanding of how the game runs.
I want to be impressed(?) but it’s just using knowledge for a shitty purpose.
he probably stole it off github lol
90% of these kids are just script kiddies... dudes talking out his ass to try making him look better. Can bet money he doesn't even understand what coding even is lmao, let alone which coding language he used to make the script.
@@fathanyusrizal thats basically all or most of coding jobs, you take something from someone else then you just tweak it a bit.
@@fathanyusrizal yea that coder do they will use it and perfect it
@@ahahaha6228 Any code copied from Github will almost certainly be immediately recognised and banned. The fact that he's online and actively cheating means that this isn't what he's doing.
I think the cheaters grind to get better is him developing the code, the efficacy of the cheat is his measure of skill (hes not improving in apex, hes improving at cheating, which is where he gets his satisfaction)
There’s definetly gotta to be a huge high at feeling like you’re outsmarting the game and the developers. Especially if you develop them yourself
Lol it all makes sense now...they just don't make sense.
I was put into shadow ban lobbies with actual hackers in COD last year and I can assure you cheaters are weird (personality wise). Can’t carry a convo without seeing the issue. They LEGIT enjoy ruining peoples days for reactions. A week of talking to them and they never have no reasoning behind cheating that makes sense. Legit sewer dwelling rats of society
The only one who doesn't make sense is Mande, he made himself look stupid and the cheater look like a philosopher by answering just with logic.. what kind of questions was he asking lol looked like so jealous of his cheats 😂
@@KRONER83RENKORthat makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. How would Mande be jealous of a hacker, when Mande is ACTUALLY good at the game? I think you’re missing some brain cells in that little head of yours. Get off the internet, and go read a book, or progress in something in your life, because you’re just as depressing as that cheaters life, when he realizes how dumb cheating is.
well hes the worst sort of cheater. obviously every cheater lacks brain and empathy but theres atleast some who can articulate well, which make you actually question things. like the late "for developers to make the game better" line like no bro youre not doing it for that, youre only doing it because you have a smal weenor complex and dont care about other people. "what you dont want done to yourself dont do to others" is a good saying that unfortunatly many dont follow. he says him getting cheated on would suck yet it doesnt make him rethink his decisions, true brain damage.
guy is playing apex for years now and as a legit player would only be a silver, even gold would be sad. im nothing but a filthy casual either who plays some games every now and then while this guy spends ~6h a day being ass. sad creature.
It makes perfect sense. Cheaters cheat because it’s the way they get fun from the game. For some, the fun is in getting better and improving. For some, it’s just playing casually. For others, cheating at the game makes it interesting because it gives them a little edge, and that’s the fun they derive from the game, is to utilize the little edge they have, to win against people without the edge. It’s the “heh heh you tried hard and lost I cheated and won haha” feeling they are looking for. Massively insecure people. The point of playing games for them is not to compete, it’s to get an edge over people because as he said “life is unethical” so why not cheat, right? Once it gets to the “youre ruining it for everyone” that’s actually where they derive more pleasure. It literally does make the game better…for THEM.
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I was about to say the same thing
That was actually amazing how you carried the conversation, kept honest but also kind and compassionate for him and trying to make him understand.
Understand what like 99.9% players are boosted am sure mande is one of them
Make him understand what? People cheat because Apex matchmaking is dogshit.
Didn't ask, also you're a random. Don't ever @ me again you dog.@@M3TH0DICAL
@@M3TH0DICAL if he can make cheats that can fuck with a billion dollar company this hard hes actually talented. People who buy the cheats are the real losers
I like that he made an effort to tell him to stop shooting ppl too
18 years old ?
he's the goat of coding/hacking
but so sad that he ruins others experience in the game
He is the MVP for not selling it. In CoD and CS people who found exploits like these kept them for themselves and sold the hacks to pros for thousands of dollars.
He messed with them once to show how little the Devs care, that's it. It's not gonna affect any player at all. It's absolutely embarrassing that this is even possible.
Nah he's actually helping
"why would you play the game if you're bad?"
mande just casually insulted everyone that plays this game lmao
from what it looks like this mande guy doesnt do a lot of thinking when words are coming out of his mouth. at the end he's just trying to convince this hacker that theyre wasting their time and depressed because they spend their time doing what they enjoy, which is developing code. he doesnt seem to understand that not everyone has the same mentality when it comes to gaming.
Don't be bad then 😂
It’s crazy cuz this is like the 7th time Mande has encountered that guy but this is the first time they actually verbally communicate lol
Fr?
@@BaezLife yes dude he’s 1v1 this speedhacker before
He will not stop...he dont want to be a better player in apex....he wants to be the best hacker in apex...thats the difference...thats the satisfaction...theres tons of hacker out there, i think now he is #1...
His villain arc started in rust and he’s been punishing everyone ever since. Imo I get what he’s saying although I don’t agree, he doesn’t place value in esports/gaming integrity, he values entertainment regardless of where it comes from and if he’s honest about developing the cheats himself then to him he found a way to win which is an accomplishment in his mind.
He could either become a serial killer or a really skilled ethical programmer. Kinda up in the air rn lol.
First comment I read with the spot-on take.
Yep, he ain't exactly wrong, basically he kinda goes by "an ethical life is a pleasurable life" or some other philosophy. Honestly I only detest 3 stack cheaters because they resemble a gang of thugs imo lol. And whether I die to a pro or a cheater it kinda feels the same anyway... Game is a game, and unfortunately even in the pro scenes cheating is still somehow done
he probably just made a macro for dash thing that got taxi banned and found the rest of the cheats on github
saying he could become a serial killer because he cheats on video games is kinda crazy. Cheating is bad and cringe but its a game, it aint that serious
@@Ottoni174 nah the dash thing got fixed and it only worked with caustic, also if he wouldve just taken some cheats from github he wouldnt have been able to play 100 games, he definetly has to have some special cheats to not get detected even tho he is full rage hacking.
Exactly these kind of people are responsible for life being unethical..
I agree - his take is definitely sociopathic.
That's a reach loll
Eh who cares, he's playing around with his coding talent in a video game. People do a lot worse with that kind of power in the banking/crypto world.
its not people like this, its the people who buy the cheats and actually think they did something
Not necessarily, these kinds of people only can validate the things they do based on how fucked up the world they perceive is. They see it as valid because well if the whole world is unethical, there's no reason not be unethical.
Mande is the goat... hahaha 'what if one day your wife cheat on you?', fffff... priceless
Dude actually sounds fking smart, just couldn't articulate what he really wants to say. Obviously it's getting the pros' attention when he started aiming all the streamers. But he is legit giving EA a wakeup call.
Yeah, bro's clearly highly intelligent, also notable that English isn't his first language so it's understandable he'd struggle a bit with articulation
Great discussion, wasn't sure whether or not he was smart after he hacked a pro tournament of a game developed by a billion dollar company.
This was funny af...bro had no remorse whatsoever💀
I've always wondered what goes on in the mind of a cheater. How can someone get enjoyment from doing something with a predetermined outcome over and over? As it turns out, there's absolutely nothing coherent about why he does it. Unsurprising but sad.
be a politician or run a big business.
Its a cheater we talking about, let alone the murderer
It’s actually extremely easy to understand. When you play a video game and get kills, wins etc it makes you feel good. Cheating makes that happen way more. Although it probably gets boring quick when you hardly ever die and have to keep trying
@@devino1337 But the whole reason it feels good is because YOU earned those kills or wins. If a program is doing it for you, there's no satisfaction to be gained because of course the program that does things that are mechanically impossible is going to beat human players.
A cheater usually is an ex legit player. They play the game, they’re not as good as they want to be and get shit on by better players, maybe even other cheaters. It’s too big of a hit on their ego and they ”cheat back” to satisfy their own feelings by ruining others days. It’s just an ego/psychological thing where u try and gain some egoistical high ground by unlegitimate means bcos u cant handle the fact that others are better than you. Simply put: childish.
Coming here after watching the ALGS fiasco. I think destroyer is the hero we didn't know we needed. F*ck EA and fuck Respawn.
He should give everyone 1k packs and watch them scramble lmao
@@kribble he wants to corporate so nah
This guy is becoming riddler from The Batman 😂
6:03 and then looking back at today’s ALGS☠️
I think it is funny, how Mande doesn't get the point, that people have different interests in life.
While Mande gets his fun from grinding and sharpening his skillset ingame, Destroyer gets his from learning coding skills.
Exactly, brother.
He should still consider how he's hurting other players experience, especially when playing ranked.
@@urisinger3412 i think he did and ranked his own interests higher than those of other people. there will always be people like this. ingame and in real life:
those who ignore the rules and let their curiosity flow.
Yeah but mande doesn't ruin other player's experience
@@ramg4699 nah it's the same shit even pro players make other players mad in game
That cheating guy is kinda right. There's no such thing as "fair" in life. You cannot always play fair (in general), you'd be demolished by those who don't.
And I can somewhat respect developers of the cheat software, they did it themselves, they have a certain skill, and an incredible one. Despite the act of cheating, they have invested a lot of effort, getting useful skills in the process.
But I despise common users of the software. Those are simply parasites, looking for easy times.
As a developer myself, I find the skills required to write a cheat, especially for games such as Apex are immense. Cheating is shitty, but the dedication to reverse engineer the game and write cheats for it will definitely get you a lot of money down the line in your career.
Are we just gonna forget the fact that we make games with a better set of rules than real life to pull us out of it or allow us to be on a level playing field with everyone else?
How is this argument even considered? We make competitive games to start from zero and get past through everyone else doing the exact same thing with only our wits and skills - everything else (in a fair game) is provided to us or there's an equal chance for it to be provided to us (in the case of this genre).
Cheating is a shortcut and a tremendously unfair one. Just because it happens one field you are admittedly good at overlaps with games doesn't mean you get to learn skills there - where many others might not be qualified to do the same and just apply them to games in means unfair to literally everyone else but cheaters and get a free pass for it.
Or did we forget what games are all about in the first place?
as soon as he said he plays rust it all made sense. rust is literally a HvH game and the mindset carry’s over
basically bro said "why be a king when u can be a god"
“Why don’t you play games to have fun?”…. “I am” lol
Bro stands on cheating☠️
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mande probably cares more about the game than EA itself lol, and he got the patience to talk with the cheat developer which is more impressed, not by directly flaming him ,but tried to understand the reason why he did this
Server-side exploits are wild.
Bro, little did we know what was yet to come from this guy
Tbh Mande, he’s got a point. Apex devs haven’t given much care towards the game at all over the years, they release skins and stickers anything that can make them money. They just started working on anti cheat again, they just mentioned ab adding a new map which they’ve had in data banks for 2 years plus. If a cheater running rampant is actually making them care because it’s affecting the pro players in the game, then they have no choice but to make it playable.
fr, they need to hire better anti cheat developers. or maybe hire this guy instead
Yeah they don't honestly care about the game (the devs), & eventually your players will stop caring as well
this is actually brilliant satire.
he is trolling the minmax mentality in today meta gaming field.
he minmaxed his time in coding, to profit in apex so he can have better stats than others
lol
No cap, he learned to code as to wasting his time grinding , gotta give the man some credit
The thing he said all make sense after the hack in NA ALGS
It actually makes sense for him to cheat in games because if he spent 4 years making the cheat its a good thing to test the limits of what you are capable of doing against a multi billion dollar company's anti cheat but he's ruining games way too much
his voice sounds robotic at times, almost like he's using an A.I. voice to hide his identity lol
I actually agree with him. He’s basically an antihero at this point. He should work with respawn as a white hat hacker
Mande has probably no experience in programming and has absolutely no idea about reverse engineering at all. The knowledge required for what he is doing is beyond all the hours that Mande has every put to the game to 'get better'. There's been a lot of cases where the company hires directly people that have proven to know how to hack a game or a server infrastructure. I just hope this is yet another example of that, but for some reason I don't see that happening.
If he hates Rust devs he probably isn’t fond of EA or Respawn. I imagine he’d look at working for them as joining the evil empire. Or who knows? He suggested he works a lot. It’s quite possible he is a dev in the industry and the field already. Maybe Respawn is a competitor or maybe he works for them already.
It doesn't matter anymore. He broke a federal crime, and the government would press charges despite what the company wants
here we are back again 1 month later
i hope he keeps doing this. it’s keeping the devs in their toes and now they HAVE to fix the cheating issue instead of blowing them off. if anything he’s an ethical hacker 🤷🏻♂️
This cheater basicly sais that he is a better swordsmen then every pro-knight since he is able to kill them by shooting them while they have only their sword. Looks like this guy is a case for a highly decorated therapist.
This sir is the best way to put it. Very true. this metaphor.
Man, after so much time UA-cam finally recommended a video of yours to me, I knew there was someone missing in my homepage
You didn't attack him personally, you asked concise questions and were overall amicable. Nice interview!
Wasted opportunity really. He just kept trying to push his own morals onto this kid rather than understanding him.
Wait, he said "One cheater that makes the game better a lil bit and makes developers think about their game and figure their shit out"
Was this his end game all along? Did he plan this ALGS hack all this time to bring respawn's attention to the cheating problem and make them fix the game? Holy shit.
He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. FeelsStrongMan
yeah he was cappin out of his ass, but he was runnin circles on u in that convo, brought valid points about the cat n mouse game
Mande trynna argue “cheating isn’t fun cause you aren’t actually winning from your own skill”.
But the guy keeps explaining that it’s fun for him because he isn’t just a “cheater” who buys hacks. He’s the hacker who actually MAKES the hacks and THAT is the fun part for him. Making the code/scripts and seeing it work.
You don't get it. He's not buying cheats; he's developing them. Breaking the game's code is what he finds fun. he is not one of the cheaters that just spends money to cheat people; he actually has skils to develop these cheats.
You had the opportunity to interview a super technical hacker and asked him the most braindead questions
mande was really tryna play the moral game with dude but he couldnt understand the fact that destroyer coding his own cheats is mande's equivalent to getting skilled at the game, once u understand thts a hobby trying to talk him out of it useless, and in the end he was right, he made a impact that even news articles are speaking on
"At some point you're gonna realize that what you're doing is super depressing and you're gonna be sad" This aged like the most rotten fucking milk ever. This dude just made history. "Sad" is the least of what he's feeling. "Depressed"? Nah man. This guy, while being a dirty ass cheater, is a computer genius. Bummer he doesn't actually get hired to do security testing and does it as a black hat lmao
this foo went from denying it 2 admiting it, real quick :'D
he was joking lol
The average mentality of a silicon valley tech bro
3:33
I can't even lie... This is an S-Tier rebuttal.
Getting insta-lasered/oneshot by a cheater without counterplay and dying. Or being able to fight back vs a legit player in a fair fight and dying. Do you think both of these things ruin your game in the exact same way?
@@wbruning1 in the exact same way? No, because cheating is definitely much more unfair than a fair, legit fight.
Exactly, so why is 3:33 an S-tier rebuttal?@@Arakari
@@wbruning1 because you're still "ruining" somebody's game. And regardless of the severity of how it's ruined, it's still more or less ruined.
@@Arakari Really flawed take by you lol
Most of his points aren't wrong. It's morally reprehensible to cheat, but it's not as though you're forced to play legitimately. You have the freedom to act however you want. If you aren't biased towards any party, you will see that's all this video was about. There was no yelling, no interruptions apart from Mande almost cussing him out, and no third party influencing anybody's responses (excluding chat). It's truly beautiful.
He’s a Very Sick person who actually has a valid point of view, developers need a serious counter to these cheaters
Welp. This aged well.
A mean if he developed the cheats he’s got a point
I feel this guy when he said I suck and want to have fun playing the game. I suck and just don't have fun but I'm addicted and can't stop
It's pretty fun to create cheats, and arguably it's a better skill to have than being good at a game.
I've created cheats for csgo (much much easier than apex), and that was probably one of my most fun projects ever.
I've never cheated on any of my main accounts (and never in apex), because it's also really fun to get better at games.
Just send me 4000 packs
Who is here after ALGS hack!
🖐️ i guess I'm just interested in many ways. Should watch the hacker dude talk with mande too
prime reason why ethics needs to be mandatory in school and esp in the technological field. learning code and using it for whatever you want just because you can can have heavy repercussions and i sincerely hope he (and his friends) learns this lesson one day. while it is just a game, i find it genuinely sad he doesn't give a shit about what he's doing to other very real people and has no interest in fairness, only selfish gain. that and the warped sense of superiority he feels because of the advantages gained by cheating will bleed into other areas of his life. excusing his own behaviour because "1000s of other cheaters" doesn't erase the fact that he is part of the problem.
Dude ... Destroyer2009 is like a movie character.He's got skill, Popularity and a villain backstory. I am a fan bro.
6:14 mande is trying to do nothing, but its a perfect jebait for destroyer XD
Holy shit. This dude was just playing the long game and waited for the perfect time to execute his plan.
Teams everywhere. How do you know dude? Mande is a genius.
This cap no way thats 2009
ngl, i do agree with the guy, it really is interesting going through the game's firewalls and security and finding gaps and flaws to the game, the feeling of power really can give someone satisfaction, and if im not wrong, everyone wants power. money is one way.
If it's interesting, then make working cheats then send them to game developers instead of using them 3 hours a day
@@Pico141 you cant just send cheats to devs because it is a risky move to do. You breaking the license agreement and terms of use by destroying or modify their property without their permision at the first place and in the second place there are people called "Grey" hackers. Its just fun for them find vulnerabilitites in different products/servers/company sites/etc. without permision or two-side agreement. Then they send the report like "Look I found this, could exploit this, here are some thoughts on fixing your problems have a nice day" . Some companies can thank that black knight, some can even reward him with money or other things and some of them can just call FBI immediately and he will be smoked.
@@Pico141 Not how that works. If youre not legally permitted by the company to attempt to hack into them, then its illegal. Theres even times where when you do have permission, certian actions are still technichally illegal. It's the reason I use a proxychain (On top of VPNs on top of other ways of spoofing location) while doing bug bountys.
@@AlexAlex-ek4onthe devs useally know how the cheats work, the problem is detecting them while having decent preformance
honestly , if that guy can code those cheats on this level , i don't even blame you dawg , its mad impressive 😂
Destroyer is the hero we all need
this guy was literally in one of my ranked games yesterday theres actually no way
gave him that stern talking too!
I actually love that kid, kinda based.
I’m sorry but listening to the tsm guy have Reddit takes on repeat is kinda cringe. He’s treating the cheater like a kid and is almost mocking him with every question. Of course it’s fun to cheat otherwise people wouldn’t do it. It feels good to run over people even if you don’t win. It’s not about telling yourself mentally you are the best at all… the truth is it’s simply fun. With that said, cheaters should fuck off bc the downsides of everyone cheating = a ruined game.
People who never cheated in games will never get the logic. There are a lot of categories of people who buy cheats and there are different reasons for them to do so. Streamers - getting money by streaming, showing that they are "good", Legit cheaters - people that just want to squeeze a bit more out of their gameplay by either having map hack, smooth aimbot, w.e., HvHers - people that buy cheats for the sake of doing hack vs hack battles, cheating to beat cheaters.
I understand a cheat dev like Destroyer2009 cause I've been friends with a big cheat dev on CS:GO and basically their logic is the same, they have a legit account where they don't cheat at all, and a lot of cheating accounts.
They do it because it's fun and they are making money and they learn coding. It's a nothing to lose situation if you are commited enough, just like Destroyer2009, he said himself he learned it in 3-4 years, and that's dedication.
Respawn watching this taking notes:
Wait so did he buy anything from the collection event??
Can someone explain what was going on around 7:15?
At 7:30, I'm pretty sure he said he's getting better because he's studying. Im ngl im impressed with desrtoyer2009 but its pretty scary someone out there is capable of stuff like what hes done
This is about to get a major signal boost
Im actually amazed the guy says hes 18 and hes made all these cheats himself. Thats some really great skills especially at that age imo. He finds it more enjoyable testing and using his own cheats then playing the game legit. Thats crazy. I cant be mad at the dude showing off his skills just that hes putting those skills to waste especially on a game like apex legends. Dont get me wrong, i dont condone cheating nor do it like it. I feel how every other legit player feels about this. Fun for hackers but not fun for the legits.
It's actually funny when i get killed by a hacker and then spectate him
@@subarashiikylox u didn’t understand his point.
Mande spitting straight facts
W Mande.
"what if your wife cheats on you"
I was gonna say "you can't code a wife"
but at this rate he probably will do exactly that, and then the robot will cheat on him...
Mande didnt understand that this man plays a different game. He enjoys the puzzle and creating the cheat.
I don't agree with the way you're talking to him I mean yes he's in the wrong but at the end of the day a lot of us young adult males and even middle-aged males understand the concept of being an anarchist. Not to mention you're arguing bout having a civilized conversation but ur just insulting him cuz ur takin it personal. Its not his fault apex Legends is the only egg in ur basket mande. Ur tripping cuznur scared cuz u don't know what you'll do if you lose apex
Get off the Internet kid, it's past your bed time lmaooo
@@ElsePerson I wrote this comment a month ago. Can’t even remember what the subject matter is about. Your reply Has barely any context. Cute of you to think your reply has any significance on a month old post lol. Probably older then you too lol. You wanna insult me use some grit- cuss at me. Instead you try to send me to bed 😂😂😂
the legend himself
Show respect to this legend
Kudos to Mande for the way he handled it.
Destroyer is like thanos, he was inevitable. And now he’s watching the sun rise on a grateful universe. Respawn is finally fixing the game like he said.
2:10 our life is not ethical at all 😂 that hit dif
Well he has a point in saying that cheaters makes the developer think differently on developing the game. Now i heard he showed his skill in ALGS so maybe EA will fix some of their stuff.
the cheater made a lot of good points
He made 1 decent point. The ethical one. Every other reason is just summed up to "he's to lazy to learn it"
Yeah to be honest the cheaters right; at the end of the day its a video game, he madd the account, hes allowed to do what he wants
Trying to get better in a game that is actually rigged against you more often than not isn't a fun experience & he finds his enjoyment in creating scripts, so why not let him?
@@vari2d347 dumb logic, just play another game.
"He hates the game so why not let him ruin it for everyone else involved"
@@DisTYM he has his fun, who really cares honestly
finding all the information to manipulate the code... I really understand why he is using his cheats... iam impressed
Brooo no way haha... Just watched the video about him and you popped up, been checking your vids for a while. Nice content! But the comment about him only coding... That's kinda telling a web dev (like me) not to test what I've been building xD. Which is in my case harmless, so I get the point that you make also.
POV: How to humiliate a pro player whos asking nonsense questions just by answering with logic.
1v1ing the cheater would have been nuts.
someone has to make him realize hes 18 years old and he already has coded cheats that can basically fuck up ea , like how isnt that winning, he would find a job and make a lot of money out of it being so young and being capable of doing such things
like it or not but that dude actually have some point.