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  • Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
  • Hope you enjoy the 2022 #Aprilia #Tuareg #launch as BikeSocial's Simon H blathers on and off-road around the southern part of the island of Sardinia. The Tuareg features Aprilia’s 660 parallel twin, retuned and housed in a new frame with long travel suspension for genuine off-road chops as well as on-road handling performance. It’s a direct rival for Yamaha’s Ténéré 700 - but can it match the Yam’s all-round brilliance?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 288

  • @fredrik999z
    @fredrik999z Рік тому +5

    I tested T7 and Tuareg 660 the same day and the difference is remarkable. Like going from an old Mitsubishi Pajero to a modern Volkswagen Tiguan. Tuareg feels like 20 kg lighter and way more nimble than T7 because seat height and center of gravity is lower but still more suspension travel. Suspension on Tuareg is more controlled and not as saggy as T7 so it handles well both on and offroad. The sound of the detuned RS engine and brilliant design of snorkel air intake is a pure joy even with standard exhaust. Only complain I had for Tuareg is the low windshield and lack of fairings that push the wind away from your body and legs when travelling long distances. Having cruise control as standard means you can go long distances but it will not be as comfortable with the wind and possibly some heat from the engine and rain directly on your legs.

    • @MrPerattzi
      @MrPerattzi 3 місяці тому

      We talkin’ Pajero Evolution ?because… lol😅

  • @bogdandanailescu
    @bogdandanailescu 2 роки тому +23

    Aprilia hit the sweet spot with the Tuareg, I hope it proves to be reliable too.

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 Рік тому

      "Cough" ...their engine issues are well documented

  • @Fiatmannen1
    @Fiatmannen1 2 роки тому +28

    The cruisecontrol alone is a great reason to take the touareg instead of the t7

  • @alrightdave6135
    @alrightdave6135 2 роки тому +74

    Tubeless, cruise and traction are worth well over a Grand.

    • @Bruneello
      @Bruneello 2 роки тому +6

      And better suspensions

    • @nikos-giorgos
      @nikos-giorgos 2 роки тому

      @jhdg
      Yes:

    • @evoemperor3776
      @evoemperor3776 2 роки тому +4

      Not to mention a longer travel suspension

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому +4

      and most important thing - the balance of motorcycle, by putting the Accerbis developed fuel tank low dawn. Results are same like KTM ADV 890, but not ugly :)

    • @drewmorg.
      @drewmorg. 2 роки тому

      @@crazyosva I think road performance of the 890 must destroy these bikes though. Off road would probably fair the other direction.

  • @-Tme
    @-Tme 2 роки тому +6

    The best coverage of the Sardinia press ride I have seen, thank you!

  • @PLGAZA
    @PLGAZA 2 роки тому +8

    Cannot stop laughing at these reliability comments. Most of you have never owned an Aprilia so your reliability comments are completely worthless. I’m on my 3rd Aprilia and have never had any issues with them.

    • @zedddddful
      @zedddddful 2 роки тому

      I am wondering where they got that impression from honestly not had one issue with my tuono it starts it goes it stops in any weather all day everyday what more could it do.

  • @stupollock6851
    @stupollock6851 2 роки тому +11

    I would look up to see one of your reviews on a bike I was considering. You do such a great job of comparing other comparable options in a very decent way that lets a consumer make a decent informed choice. Anyway - love the way you do reviews.

  • @fabianobenedetti6692
    @fabianobenedetti6692 2 роки тому +19

    Tubeless tires pay off almost the entire price difference with the Tenere. And cruise + traction controls are nothing to sneeze at...

  • @rolandspencer5388
    @rolandspencer5388 2 роки тому +11

    Great review Simon thank you. Also i agree- the v85tt is the prettiest bike of the last 20 years!

  • @MrFreezook
    @MrFreezook 2 роки тому +2

    This is the second time I watch this video, It's Kinna, one of the best reviews out there, at the moment for the Tuareg. Well done.

  • @pestraid6356
    @pestraid6356 2 роки тому +6

    Seems like a real shame not to have heated grips on all these type of bikes. Cracking review btw

  • @WilsonianChannel
    @WilsonianChannel 2 роки тому +25

    This feels (and looks) like the mid-sized engine, around 600-700cc, Africa Twin we wanted. An intriguing option.

    • @gunarslodzins
      @gunarslodzins 2 роки тому +2

      Even looks like one :)

    • @AngelSapundzhiev
      @AngelSapundzhiev 2 роки тому +3

      @@gunarslodzins all Dakar bikes looked like that in the 80’s.

    • @SimonBrisbane
      @SimonBrisbane 2 роки тому +3

      100%. Given Honda choked on delivering the Transalp, I’m likely to get this instead.

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому +1

      Testrided yesterday - this bike looks like 2022 ADV winner! Amazing motorcycle. The mine is ordered. Such a shame that Honda cant build a " Troe adventure" anymore :)

  • @toltod
    @toltod 2 роки тому +6

    Great review! i'd love to reward Aprilia's great work by purchasing this awesome machine.

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому +1

      It's done in my case, and yes, is awesome machine, just a joy to ride

  • @HW-kf7hi
    @HW-kf7hi 2 роки тому +14

    Shame there are hardly any dealers. They could potentially sell a lot more bikes in general if they did. Considered an RS660 earlier this year but no dealers anywhere within a practical distance. Shame as a I really like Aprilias and have owned 2 in the past but the local dealers are long gone now.

    • @zoragun
      @zoragun 2 роки тому +2

      Where do you live? Antarctica?😁

    • @batistasm79
      @batistasm79 2 роки тому

      Long gone because of poor sales?

    • @billvick7011
      @billvick7011 2 роки тому +2

      @@zoragun Just in the US, take a look at the distribution of dealers and his point is well and obviously illustrated.

    • @HW-kf7hi
      @HW-kf7hi 2 роки тому

      @@zoragun Close. Lancashire!

    • @HW-kf7hi
      @HW-kf7hi 2 роки тому +2

      @@batistasm79 One dealer became an exclusive Yamaha dealer as they told me Yamaha wanted them to be and they were sick of all the parents coming in complaining the Aprilia scooter their kids bought is now knackered because they abuse them! (and they are now BSB champions for Yamaha - well done guys). The other dealership closed as the millionaire owner (also former Blackburn Rovers football club owner) was selling up and could not find a buyer unfortunately. So no dealers in the county now and just to much hassle if you need to drop the bike of for something up and down the busy motorways all day for something simple (and a day off work). Now have a Triumph and dealer 10 miles away. Japanese dealers and bmw all only a few miles and even better. No comparison.

  • @Outdawrzman
    @Outdawrzman 2 роки тому +3

    Looks like they nailed it! I will be purchasing this bike, Bravo !

  • @themorganator
    @themorganator 2 роки тому +1

    I really liked this review. The presented is knowledgeable and engaging and I will definitely watch more of his reviews. I just wish there was an Aprilia dealership near me, because I would definitely take it for a test! The fact is tubeless is quite significant, too.

  • @clivedarwell5732
    @clivedarwell5732 2 роки тому +5

    Not convinced you need all the ride modes/Traction control etc on a bike of that power - therefore, that tech equates to unnecessary stuff that could go wrong. However, quick shifter, tubeless tyres and cruise control are nice. Sounds like a great bike.

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed to an extent - certainly less than you would on a litre sportsbike! But thinking about it, 80bhp is what Aprilia claim and I remember when a sports 600 wasn't making much more than that - and a 21in front with twin discs could make you grateful for decent ABS if you have to suddenly stop sharpish in the wet.
      Also, my understanding is all these features tend to come with the electronics package the manufacturer buys from the supplier. So for example, the reason radar cruise control popped up simultaneously on Ducati V4 Multi, BMW's RT and KTM 1290 SA is because Bosch made it available to them. So although they all claim slightly different functionality - especially Ducati - the basic hardware and technology is the same across all three.
      So I'm not sure where Aprilia gets its electronics package from - I guess it's Magneti Marelli - but when a supplier supplies a bunch of ECU/IMU systems for your production bikes, once you/they have designed the sensor package and electronics spec I'd assume it's cost effective to use the same system, obviously tweaked, across the range.
      Quickshifter is an extra, btw :-)

  • @2stroke4me
    @2stroke4me 2 роки тому +12

    Love it! Been waiting for ages for a replacement of my worn out current bike and the Tenere, however good it looks, just didn't cut it. Looks like the finish on the Tuareg is a lot better (surprisingly!).
    Would be awesome if Aprilia also made a smaller, say 400cc two stroke twin, version of the Tuareg ;-)
    Edit: €15.000 for the Indaco Tagelmust version D: That's a €3.000 difference with the Ténéré 700!

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +1

      I'd like to see them again side-by-side, but from memory I think the Ten 7 is the better finished - the Tuareg is a bit... mmmm... plastic in places. The places where it's plastic, come to think of it.

    • @Davmm96
      @Davmm96 2 роки тому

      Indeed, would also love a small 300-400cc twin to compete with the Royal enfield Himalayan or the Versys-X 300:)

  • @oyleyhands1332
    @oyleyhands1332 2 роки тому +4

    I had an original Apprillia Tuareg 600 Wind, it was a great bike, wish I had kept it, far more nimble than the Tenere 600 and surprisingly, never let me down !

    • @richardsimpson3792
      @richardsimpson3792 2 роки тому +2

      I had similar good experience with a 650 Rotax-engined Pegaso. Aprilia built all the first model BMW F650s too, and a mate who was a BMW dealer said they had fewer warranty claims with the Italian-built bikes than the German built twins of the time.

    • @chris425amp7
      @chris425amp7 2 роки тому +1

      @@richardsimpson3792 There's one for sale in burgundy by me tank bulit, rides like an aprilia a dream

    • @DrazenCika
      @DrazenCika 2 роки тому

      I have the Tenere 3AJ so I did look up the Tuareg to check what you mean by more nimble...and it is, around 17 kg lighter, bit less power (40 vs 45 bhp), six speed gearbox (which was really rare back then), and as great looking as Tenere, if not even better. I would not trade my 5 liters fuel more, but I guess in real life the range is similar. Great bike it was.

    • @oyleyhands1332
      @oyleyhands1332 2 роки тому +2

      @@DrazenCika Tuareg could pull away from my pals Tenere, outbraked it for sure, steered faster, maybe less BHP but for sure the Tuareg spun the engine up faster, 6 speed as you say, the Tenere was agricultural when compared to the Tuareg..How it would be to do a remote fix if it broke down, well, that is a different matter !

    • @DrazenCika
      @DrazenCika 2 роки тому

      @@oyleyhands1332 True, those Italian builders knew how to do a beautiful and light bikes, just look at this Cagive 900ie twin...still only 208 kg wet, back at the time...and it was air cooled with all the righ components: ua-cam.com/video/6j4E3vfzpZ4/v-deo.html

  • @lyubengeorgiev1751
    @lyubengeorgiev1751 2 роки тому +8

    Pretty sweet bike on paper! Just the time will show us the answer to the most important question about this beauty - Aprilia's reliability for long-term usage (especially in remote areas as it is an adventure bike).
    However, I would gladly become a beta tester if they give me one :D

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому +2

      If riding in Europe, there is no issues I think, if you are planing to go to Mongolia -the same situation for all brand dealers :)

    • @lyubengeorgiev1751
      @lyubengeorgiev1751 2 роки тому +1

      Well...it depends. I found a pretty sweet Aprilia Pegaso Trial with less than 13K on the clock here in Bulgaria and it utilizes the same single-cylinder bulletproof Minarelly engine as Yamaha's XT 660 X/Z/R, so I decided its a bargain for around 2K EUR. Until I called the seller and understood that due to an ECU mistake on the dash the bike won't start.
      So last week I did quite some research in the Aprilia forums about this model and its supermoto sibling - Aprilia Pegaso Strad 650 - apparently underrated bikes for their time but suffering from a lot of small electrical faults here and there that could make your bike maintenance life bigger adventure than the one that you would buy an adventure bike for 😁
      On the other side, there is a pretty good number of all 3 variations of XT 660 with quite astonishing readings on the odometer done RTW and not so much more than the usual maintenance. Yet, they need quite an improvement to be comfy for long journeys while even the 2007 Pegaso Trail looks much better than the XTs, has an ultra-funky glovebox hidden in the fuel tank, luggage elastic net hidden under the seat and beautiful design.
      P.S. Sorry for the long comment. No particular idea why I did it but wanted to share some thoughts 😂

  • @AShaw-bd4fy
    @AShaw-bd4fy 2 роки тому +13

    If that bike had big twin spotlights on the front and not some codpiece. Then they would have nailed it.

  • @michal_z
    @michal_z 2 роки тому +4

    Why every journalist is compering Touareg to T7 when this bike is in price range of KTM 890 Adv?!

  • @turbolag5107
    @turbolag5107 2 роки тому +1

    The sound of this thing is phenomenal. 14:14

  • @ianmills35
    @ianmills35 2 роки тому +2

    Great review, thanks Simon, really like the look of this bike. 👍🏍

  • @justinrowlands7678
    @justinrowlands7678 2 роки тому +1

    Don't know why, but I'm really liking that late 80's dirt bike seat. possibly because in the back of my mind is he idea that an adventure bike is an XR600 with a long range tank and milk crate nylon tied to the back...

  • @simonthomas5367
    @simonthomas5367 2 роки тому +1

    Another top review, thanks! I'm currently on a 2018 AT Adventure Sports (which I bought partly for the excellent colour scheme!) but it is a big, tall, heavy old beast. This Tuareg would certainly be on my list for something a bit more nimble and lighter.

    • @Angry-Lynx
      @Angry-Lynx 4 місяці тому +1

      Shouldv gone with regular dct version

    • @simonthomas5367
      @simonthomas5367 4 місяці тому

      @@Angry-Lynx Not for me. I trail ride a lot and don't like a DCT off-road. Plus the ATAS 2018 model has upgraded suspension.

  • @Steve-motorcycles
    @Steve-motorcycles 2 роки тому +3

    Yamaha has legendary reliability and an extensive dealer network, not that there’s much that goes wrong. I’m in S/E England, where I would need a touring bike to get to the nearest Asprilia dealership. Not a deciding factor but worth considering when buying a new bike.

    • @andrewkitchenuk
      @andrewkitchenuk 2 роки тому

      I live in Leighton Buzzard. There are more Aprilia dealers than Yamaha dealers in a 50 mile radius. 😊

  • @mal-wx6tu
    @mal-wx6tu Рік тому +1

    It also have a power advantage of 10 HP over the Tenere and the electronics suite justifies the price difference. I think Aprilia have well and truly sorted their reliability issues just as Moto Guzzi had their issues, which were more electrics than engine issues, that used to leave you stranded.

  • @oyleyhands1332
    @oyleyhands1332 2 роки тому +3

    I think the electronics suite, traction control ,cruise control, longer travel suspension and tubless tyres soon swallow the 1000 GBP difference, remains to be seen how the dealer network/support and parts availability are.
    No idea where they get 600 GBP extra for that paint scheme come from, same colours used in the original Tuareg 600 Wind I once owned from new.

  • @zedddddful
    @zedddddful 2 роки тому +5

    I think I shall be partaking of one of these bad boy's should be a good touring and commuting bike.

  • @MichaelWilliams-jc2ui
    @MichaelWilliams-jc2ui 2 роки тому +4

    Great first review, but did you like it? Love it even Simon?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      Love the engine and handling, not so much the finish.

  • @HardwareG33k
    @HardwareG33k 2 роки тому +1

    haha the end, fantastic. Honestly I think this is much better value than the T7, at least on paper. Suspension, electronics (including the all important cruise control), tubeless rims and a more powerful engine really dwarf the price difference.

  • @kurtchristopher7392
    @kurtchristopher7392 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video! Thank you!

  • @MYBMWRT
    @MYBMWRT 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Simon! 👍👍

  • @c.g.c2067
    @c.g.c2067 2 роки тому +2

    The extra electronics package is more than wellcome, you can ride safer both on road or offroad and switch everything off if you wish so.

  • @henrietn
    @henrietn 2 роки тому +5

    Looks like a good upgrade for my cb500x

  • @VittorioSergi
    @VittorioSergi 2 роки тому +5

    goats in Sardinia? Am I gonna be the one to explain that in Italy one of sardinians stereotypes is to be kinda, you know, what you have going on for welsh people, oh com'on, don't make me say it you know what I mean right? right...?

  • @frankmalone8389
    @frankmalone8389 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative thank you

  • @banestock
    @banestock 2 роки тому +3

    Looking forward to the norden 901 review!

  • @FanOWater
    @FanOWater 2 роки тому +2

    I think tubeless rims are worth a good bit of cash, since they really speed (most) puncture repairs.

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 2 роки тому +6

    Great review thanks Simon. I’m not sure on the looks or price so it would be the Tenere 700 for me.

    • @timm1583
      @timm1583 2 роки тому +1

      I wonder how much more it cost to run than a T7 not to mention reliability.

  • @renosdr5251
    @renosdr5251 2 роки тому +3

    The bikes keep getting more and more expensive as they are actually cheaper to produce ........ The only way to buy one is to sell one of my kids

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller8980 2 роки тому +3

    I wonder.
    There is a reason Yamaha can't build Teneres fast enough, and KTM 790 or 890s are a rare sight, relatively speaking.
    Complex electronics may be fine on 1000cc plus, where little, if any time is spent off road.
    Yamaha have given the public exactly what they asked for, priced it accordingly, and the numbers speak for themselves.
    If Honda's new Transalp is along Tenere lines it will give it a run for its money. The Africa Twin has been priced and specced to cover the top of the market.
    And then there is dealer network and.... reliability? Hopefully good.
    Lovely bike, but maybe over complicated.
    Happy travels

    • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
      @JohnSmith-ef8nr 2 роки тому +3

      I like the T7 because its so basic and reliable.

    • @teneretraveller8980
      @teneretraveller8980 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnSmith-ef8nr Exactly 👍

    • @Theravadinbuto
      @Theravadinbuto 2 роки тому +1

      But once you’ve ridden a 790/890, then you know which character you like more. I love my 790’s slightly manic quality, and off-road performance and suspension. A lot of people probably want something slightly more unintimidating with softer suspension. I have had no issues with electronics, and I give it a fair hammering off-road sometimes. We’re spoiled for choice, honestly.

  • @windinthewillows6248
    @windinthewillows6248 2 роки тому +1

    The extra cost get you the luxury kit that Yamaha won’t fit to the T7, i.e, cruise control, tubeless wheels, fully adjustable suspension and colour TFT screen. That’s definitely worth the extra, as for styling, well beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

  • @daviddew1945
    @daviddew1945 2 роки тому +1

    I will ride my 2013 800GS the 160 miles to the nearest Aprilia shop if they get Tuareg.
    I want to see it, talk to dealer, ride if I can. This bike checks many boxes for me, ...maybe!

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому

      Don't repeat the mistake that I did it - if you'll try the Tuareg, you'll be back with :)

  • @DragosDreamer1989
    @DragosDreamer1989 2 роки тому +2

    Why does everybody omit the fact that it comes stock with TUBELESS RIMS, like actual ones, not spokes with gaskets at the end.

  • @slakk5093
    @slakk5093 2 роки тому +5

    Looks like a great bike, but would i feel comfortable 1000km away from any town in the middle of Australia. Hmm I dont think so. Aprilia has a reputation for electrical gremlins and until this engine and bike are proven for reliability i wouldn't feel comfortable solo in the middle of nowhere on this. Same reason I am looking at the Tenere over the KTM

    • @slakk5093
      @slakk5093 2 роки тому +1

      tubeless tyres are nice tho

    • @PLGAZA
      @PLGAZA 2 роки тому +2

      @SLAKK crikey mate I’m on my third Aprilia and no issues whatsoever. Bloody rock solid bikes

    • @protectorh9167
      @protectorh9167 2 роки тому

      I thought these issues where from a long time ago, Aprilia is nowadays ok or .......

  • @maskedavenger2578
    @maskedavenger2578 2 роки тому +3

    Yea but how reliable is the electrics going to be & how many months waiting for parts .If I was looking for this type of machine I would chose the Yamaha Tenere any day of the week .The less electronic gimmicks & farkles the better & the less to go wrong & leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere .Every bike has traction control ,& quick shifter ,it called a rider who knows how to ride & control a motorcycle correctly .

  • @aportilla007
    @aportilla007 2 роки тому

    I had the Aprilia Caponord 1000 ETV - AMAZING bike. So disappointed with the 1200. This Tuareg looks awesome. I will wait for the Tuareg 1000. In the meantime, I will enjoy my 2022 AT. :)

  • @andrewkitchenuk
    @andrewkitchenuk 2 роки тому +1

    Test rode both the T7 and the Aprilia this week although only on road and it pains me to say it after owning 3 Supertens but the Aprilia was better in every single respect apart from the price. Compare the look of the exhaust silencers and you'll see what I mean about the looks and finish. Being 194mm tall the higher seat is the only thing I prefer on the Tenere and I seem to be in the minority when it comes to that.

    • @Asyouwere
      @Asyouwere Рік тому

      You must be the smallest motorcyclist in the world!

  • @bonzaralph
    @bonzaralph 2 роки тому

    Good review thanks!

  • @SuperWolffie
    @SuperWolffie 2 роки тому +1

    very nice review. About the bike; like it a lot , especially this color . Except the sattle...that looks cheap....but I am sure there will be aftermarket stuff available soon

  • @drewmorg.
    @drewmorg. 2 роки тому +1

    Tenere 700 needs to bridge the gap to all these new bikes with its own quick shifter and cruise control. That's worth another $500 easily. All bikes should have those 2 features in 2022 in my opinion. Even the KTM 390 has those for like $6000.

  • @johnnyblue4799
    @johnnyblue4799 2 роки тому +8

    Nice review! For me the cruise control is its biggest advantage over the Tenere...
    How's the clutch to operate?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +3

      Clutch is fine. Cruise control is a big plus over the Ten 7 for me too. But there are other considerations too - I think the Ten is a better-looking bike, but it's also better detailed - the Aprilia has a lot of black plastic and it looks a bit unfinished.

    • @johnnyblue4799
      @johnnyblue4799 2 роки тому +2

      @@writestuffmedia Thank you for your reply. Between a sore wrist from holding the throttle and a sore eye from looking at ugly plastics I think I'd choose the latter, especially if it comes with a bit better suspension! Maybe Yamaha will come to its senses and add a cruise control to the Tenere... it shouldn't be that difficult.

    • @batistasm79
      @batistasm79 2 роки тому

      @@johnnyblue4799 They'll have to switch to ride-by-wire first. Doesn't sound all that easy.

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker1 2 роки тому +9

    Looks good but I prefer the Tenere because of its stripped back nature. OTOH, not in the market for either. But if Yamaha or even Aprilia looked to make something at the more enduro end of the semi offroader scale vs ADV and went for light weight. And got under 180Kg wet. I'd be interested.

  • @Supernova12034
    @Supernova12034 2 роки тому

    If I wanted to read a spec sheet, I would have done so.
    This is why I like michael neeves. No rambling about numbers.

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому

      True! We all need a minimum of 25% more Neevesy in our lives.

    • @neevesybikes
      @neevesybikes 2 роки тому +2

      99.999999% agreee.

  • @nick1bb1
    @nick1bb1 2 роки тому +2

    We won't find out for quite some time but one question would not just reliability but durability - The MT07 has shown the cp2 engine is reliable AND durable. I like the Tuareg but I have owned Aprilias and those I've owned have sadly had reliability issues. I hope the Tuareg does prove to be reliable and long lived but it will need to prove that before I buy another Aprilia.

    • @mal-wx6tu
      @mal-wx6tu Рік тому

      Your right Nick, electrics were the main issue, the Magnet Marelli electrics were chronic for failures, I think they are using japanese Denso units now which the japanese makers have proven reliable.

  • @alrightdave6135
    @alrightdave6135 2 роки тому +1

    More comfy looking than my t7

  • @thomasdoe6768
    @thomasdoe6768 2 роки тому +1

    I remember Aprilia to be unreliable in the 125 ccm segment, when I was younger. How about now? An Yamaha would be a no brainer for me, but I do not have any experience with the younger models now.

  • @jbaccanalia
    @jbaccanalia 2 роки тому

    Great review, well presented, I quite like that bike. The electronics are worth it if they're trouble free.

  • @coreyhayward2122
    @coreyhayward2122 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to see that white/blue/red colour scheme on the RS660

  • @festol1
    @festol1 2 роки тому +2

    T7 11.5:1 vs Tuareg 13.5:1 compression ratio.
    Regarding reliability and longevity I rather have the T7.
    But the Aprilia is better loaded chassi wise, tubeless too.

    • @evoemperor3776
      @evoemperor3776 2 роки тому +2

      Get the klr 650 if reliability is what you want

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 Рік тому

      Lower the compression, shitier the fuel you can run, especially in AfricagSth America... a thing to think about!

  • @defylifeadventure
    @defylifeadventure 2 роки тому +2

    Probably should have sent someone that has ridden/tested the T700 to this. Looks decent and a good step up from the parts-bin special T700. My last Aprilia was one of the most well built bikes I've owned. Can't see me parting with the 890 ADV R which really is the standout bike in the sub heavyweight class.

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      Er, I have tested the Tenere 700 :-) Launch and on the road in the UK! Sorry, did I give the impression I haven't ridden it?

    • @mbal4052
      @mbal4052 Рік тому

      Don’t be a dick, Carl

  • @Ritalie
    @Ritalie 2 роки тому +1

    There was another review I was watching, and the guy just casually says that it has 75 horsepower, as if it's really unimpressive for a 660cc twin. I can't think of any twin that has 75 horsepower out of a 660cc. That much power on a nimble, lightweight dirt bike, is a tremendous amount of power. A DR650 is somewhere around 45 horsepower and they are known to be one of the fastest air cooled big singles. A Tenere 700 is closer to 60 horsepower. A KLR650 is somewhere around 32.50 hp (measured directly at the crank).

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому

      That's a very good point! I remember when I was riding the bike thinking, "Oh, it's in a lower state of tune than an RS660" - a claimed 20bhp more than the Tuareg. And I suppose in terms of off-road riding, if you judge it from the POV of a KTM790 or 890, that's a lot more power (and weight etc). But you're right, it IS a lot in that chassis.

  • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
    @JohnSmith-ef8nr 2 роки тому +1

    Hope Aprillia fixed the breaking RS660 conrods after the recall.

  • @tonysmith3219
    @tonysmith3219 2 роки тому +1

    There was a 350 rotax too..

  • @pgkr67
    @pgkr67 2 роки тому +1

    That sounds like an amazing bike 👍🏼😊

  • @Banditmanuk
    @Banditmanuk 2 роки тому +9

    Great review thank you. It does look a great bike, perhaps even better than the Yam. But if you were planning a cross continental expedition on and off road which bike would you take?
    I would take the Yam. Dealer back up and an engine with proven reliability.

    • @nikos-giorgos
      @nikos-giorgos 2 роки тому +2

      I'd take this any day.

    • @steve-wu7jp
      @steve-wu7jp 2 роки тому +4

      You can't even find t7s in the USA it's a victim of its own success. I'll probably have a better shot at getting one of these 👍

    • @Banditmanuk
      @Banditmanuk 2 роки тому +3

      @@steve-wu7jp My local Tamorth Yamaha here in the UK has two in the showroom but that's not much help to you. I hope the Aprilia proves to be as durable and reliable as the Yam.

    • @terryjohnbaker
      @terryjohnbaker 2 роки тому +2

      CB500x ta. Lighter, lower c of g, long tank range, total reliability, huge dealer network - price difference pays for the trip. 👍 (But I'd go for one of these when I get back.)

    • @jimbates6115
      @jimbates6115 2 роки тому

      @@terryjohnbaker Totally lost faith in Honda. My local dealer was absolutely disgraceful. I will never buy another Honda!

  • @firestormlivingsolutions
    @firestormlivingsolutions 2 роки тому +1

    Love it

  • @richardsimpson3792
    @richardsimpson3792 2 роки тому +3

    Is the rear sub-frame welded on like the Yam?
    Drop the Yan on the exhaust side and you can bend the silencer bracket, and then the frame, and write the bike off!

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      Yes it is :-(
      I asked Aprilia why it wasn't detachable and they said it a) weight (?) and b) it would compromise frame rigidity - which I guess means with a detachable frame they'd have had to use more frame members around the back of bike to compensate, which may then have compromised the design and maybe added more weight. I'm not sure, it wasn't a very convincing answer tbh. Maybe it's just cheaper this way.

    • @toltod
      @toltod 2 роки тому

      @@writestuffmedia Thanks for questioning Aprilia. It is one of my fears to have to write the machine off incase i offroad a little too hard and it would have also quelled my fears of tipping over on the muffler side.

    • @richardsimpson3792
      @richardsimpson3792 2 роки тому

      @@writestuffmedia Thanks Simon, I appreciate you getting back, and asking Aprilia the question in the first place....that's disappointing news.
      Interesting that my KTM 950 Adventure weighs about the same as the Yam and the Aprilia, and has a bolted subframe. While I appreciate all the equipment needed to get to Euro 5 is a bit weighty, the 950 has most of that kit fitted (SAS air system, catalyst exhaust etc) with a 2:2 exhaust, and high-quality suspension.
      I'd like to replace the 950 with something a bit lighter and less intense, but there's just nothing out there with the same capability that doesn't weigh as much or more.

    • @richardsimpson3792
      @richardsimpson3792 2 роки тому

      Perhaps pannier frames are a solution?

    • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
      @JohnSmith-ef8nr 2 роки тому +1

      Theres high mount exhausts for the T7.

  • @christopherbeddoe406
    @christopherbeddoe406 2 роки тому

    The Aprilia is Significantly better than the Tenere 700 on paper.
    Same Weight.
    +10 hp
    +6-8 MPG or so (10%)
    +75 mile range
    +Modern electronics, Cruise, etc. Yamaha has 10+ year old electronics design.
    +1.2" suspension travel.
    Major downside... The nearest service center to me is 316 miles away.
    If I drove it home I'd have to drive it back for the first service at 600 miles.
    Have to see if there is anything other than the standard oil change, check torque, visual inspection which I can do it by myself.

  • @OnMyWayBack888
    @OnMyWayBack888 2 роки тому +2

    Great review.
    Now that you covered both the nordern and the Tuareg what is your recommendation for someone who comes from Africa twin and us doing 80% travel on road but enjoys the double trail and occasional singles?
    Thanks

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      Personally I've not ridden the Norden (but it's a KTM 890 Adv in a blue and yellow frock, yeah?) but I still think the T7 is boss and the 890 AdvR is boss boss if it doesn't throw up an electrical fault in the first 100 miles.

  • @ianc4901
    @ianc4901 2 роки тому +2

    Didn't VW do a van called Tuareg ?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +1

      SUV, but they spelled it Touareg... both spellings are ok but Tuareg is the more common spelling.

  • @allsearpw3829
    @allsearpw3829 2 роки тому

    Hi, nice review and the bike is one to consider . Take care .

  • @Riezig
    @Riezig 2 роки тому

    Its a very nice bike but the Tenere700 with Yamaha's dealer network and reliability make it the choice for me. The nearest Aprilia dealership is 5hrs away and there are Yamaha dealers ships within 1hr of any direction I choose.

  • @funguseater40
    @funguseater40 2 роки тому +1

    Looks good, just don't like the front end headlight looks cheap. Apart from that it's ok I do prefer the Yamaha reliability/dealers

  • @robinjameshartley7673
    @robinjameshartley7673 2 роки тому +1

    I had a 2002 pegaso 650. Don't know what I was thinking, I should have got an XT600 instead. Nowadays I can't see why the T7 wouldn't be a better option again.

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому

      Just because it's not even far to Tuareg

  • @r1richie
    @r1richie 2 роки тому +3

    Great test Simon just wondering if you were spending your own cash would it be the 660 or the T7?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +8

      I love the idea of the electronics on the Tuareg, but for my money the superior finish of the T7 would sway me. It just looks more durable and better finished.

    • @r1richie
      @r1richie 2 роки тому +1

      @@writestuffmedia thanks for the reply. Just seeing what Pol Tarres does on the T7 is it's biggest selling point (not that I could do what he does).

  • @papaduck1000
    @papaduck1000 Рік тому

    Well done!

  • @HippoDrones
    @HippoDrones 2 роки тому +1

    It looks quite the bike, and nice they do a 20mm lower seat too, I wonder if they do a lower suspension option too?

  • @nickthequick
    @nickthequick 2 роки тому +2

    Tenere or Tuareg, which would you take for the longest road ride (tour)?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +1

      Good question, and one I'll struggle to answer on the basis of the launch ride. I've never ridden the Ten 7 a properly *long* way either... couple of hundred miles once, at most. I hope we can put them both together and get a proper test ride later in 2022 for Bennetts BikeSocial. Cruise on the Tuareg is a plus when you're forced to get on a motorway... but for me it'll come down to tank range, seat, engine character and the screen. But honestly can't say which will be better :-)

  • @portlandsean
    @portlandsean 2 роки тому +2

    Good review. Really like the Tuareg but until Piaggio/ Aprilia/Moto Guzzi start supporting their bikes in the US it will alway be a turn off.

    • @AngelSapundzhiev
      @AngelSapundzhiev 2 роки тому +2

      AF1 Racing in Texas has parts and accessories in stock at almost all times and often shipped overnight. Any other concerns? (I am an Aprilia owner.)

    • @niallleslie7419
      @niallleslie7419 2 роки тому

      I agree. I'm in Canada and I believe that there is now only 1 dealer in the whole of Ontario and they are about 350 km away! ( MG Stelvio owner.)

  • @mortorv2030
    @mortorv2030 2 роки тому +3

    Tough decisions to make between the t7 and this. A great problem to have though!

    • @crazyosva
      @crazyosva 2 роки тому +2

      not tough decision at all - just try the Tuareg :)

    • @mortorv2030
      @mortorv2030 2 роки тому +1

      @@crazyosva i'll give it a go 👍

  • @StephenIanDow
    @StephenIanDow 2 роки тому

    Great review; I'm wondering if there are any after market exhausts worth considering ??

  • @MYBMWRT
    @MYBMWRT 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Simon, do you know what the valve adjustment intervals are compared to the Tenere? Cost of ownership is a big consideration for me. Awesome review!

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      T7 is 24k miles, Tuareg is 12.4k miles (so twice as often).
      Soz, don't know what the cost would be - depends on where you are, your dealer etc. But safe to say the Aprilia will cost more run from a servicing POV.

  • @mantan_rtw
    @mantan_rtw 2 роки тому

    Anything you missed, yes of course. How about service intervals, esp. valve check frequency and service time quoted . How does that compare to T7?

  • @willyd-adv
    @willyd-adv 2 роки тому +2

    Needs gold rims, grey are grim

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +1

      I hadn't even noticed that, but you are 100% right.

  • @mmax27
    @mmax27 2 роки тому +1

    It looks great, but there is no IMU and cornering ABS. It costs more than the RS660 which has IMU and cornering ABS!

  • @DanielHelc
    @DanielHelc Рік тому

    Good video, however its the same ol review as everyone. Why no one mentions the dealer/service network support? How about the bike maintenence? Is this bike going to go to the shop for everything like the Desert X?

  • @frankpinion4937
    @frankpinion4937 2 роки тому

    you didn't mention servicing or ease of! Air filter-oil/filter change. Battery access for removal or adding a charging lead from Ctek charger. Does it have a link in the chain? How easy to set the tappets-is it shims or adjustable-presuming 8 valve. How easy is it to change modes between road and off road? Does it have 2 trips counters-fuel gauge-gear indicator-clock-ambient temp indicator? How economical is it-ie: range on the tank for x amount of litres? Oh dear-you seem to have missed out quite a bit!

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +1

      Woah, that's a bit deeper than we normally get a chance to dig on a few hours on a launch :-) The main purpose of a launch video - at least *my* launch videos - is to give a brief overview of what's new on the bike and general riding impressions, designed to augment a more detailed written report for the Bikesocial website. It's neither possible nor intended to be exhaustive, but it *is* exhausting! We're usually fairly limited on having time to do all the things we need to do on a press launch; it's about as far from an easy day's ride as it can get. It's hectic, intense, and fairly high pressure - you have a lot of things to do in a short space of time; so much so I sometimes worry for less experienced journalists because it's a lot of things to be thinking about while they should be focussing on riding safely in a large group at speed on an unfamiliar road in a foreign country. I think most riders would be shocked at how what goes into making a launch video and report.
      But anyway:
      The air filter is easily accessible at the front of the tank - remove a top panel (no tools, as I recall) and it's there. Oil filter is conventional at the front of the motor - no problem I can see. Access to the battery - didn't ask, but probably under the seat and tbh shouldn't be too tricky for a man of your calibre to find if it isn't.
      There are lots of links in the chain :-) But the connecting link will be a rivet, not cir-clip, on an oe fitment to a bike of this size (I *think* it's a Regina 520 ZRA Black Dual).
      Access to the 8v top end is conventional so no exceptional service times - valve gear is bucket & shim.
      Changing modes is a simple button press. It has two trips, a fuel gauge, a gear indicator, a clock, engine or ambient temp.
      From the accompanying report here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/aprilia/tuareg-660-2022
      "The Tuareg comes with an 18-litre tank and a cool - and doubtless cheap - old-style plastic filler cap (no hinge). Aprilia claim 58.8mpg which would give a tank range of 230 miles; reserve at 180 miles. The actual average mpg over the course of the test ride was 48mpg, meaning a full-to-empty of 190 miles and reserve at 150 miles. This ties up with the 140-mile test ride leaving the fuel gauge showing one bar left.
      The Ténéré 700’s tank is smaller than the Tuareg’s, at 16 litres - but the motor is a bit more efficient and averages in the low 50s mpg, taking the Yam 130 miles to reserve. So the Tuareg definitely has the advantage, and the more moderately you ride it the bigger that advantage gets."

  • @JIMWSMITH
    @JIMWSMITH 2 роки тому +1

    In the blue looks like a Africa twin from the side🤔. Good power from the 660.

    • @AngelSapundzhiev
      @AngelSapundzhiev 2 роки тому

      No, it looks like a Dakar bike from the 70’s / 80’s. They all had this similar look and paint scheme at that time. :-)

  • @182mcg1
    @182mcg1 2 роки тому +1

    Hi lad's I see honda africa twin 1100

  • @Hutchie2112
    @Hutchie2112 2 роки тому +6

    Sounds like a great bike (and I say that as a T7 owner) , but it is horrible looking, and I'm shallow minded enough to admit that that matters to me. Some folk obviously will love the looks of it. Anyhoo, I'd rather stick with a Yamaha.

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites 2 роки тому +3

      I have no problem with shallow.
      I’ve got the 1250GS in the rather fetching blue and white HP colours. I don’t need it to be the world’s best tool (even if it is), but I do need to be able to look back over my shoulder after a great ride and go “wow, I own that”.

    • @Hutchie2112
      @Hutchie2112 2 роки тому

      @@PhilbyFavourites Aye, I had an early model vstrom years ago, and , well, I had great times with it, but it was pig ugly.
      My T7, sometimes almost the same words as you used come to mind, when I am walking towards it 'wow, I own that'.
      Be a boring and bland world if we all like the same 'beauty'.
      Just watched a review of the new Aprilia Tuareg ( I am typo king, I meant the new HD adventure thing), and it sounds like a superb bike, but it makes the old vstrom look pretty ;)

  • @gretchensghost
    @gretchensghost 2 роки тому +2

    For some reason, the front end ( suspect looking headlight aside) reminds me of my old Tenere circa 1995/6..
    This one is a bit salty though isn't it? £11K?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +1

      An XTZ660 in 1991 cost £3830, or £8408 in today's money. So yes, salty!
      But it made 47bhp. So in £/bhp terms, that's £179 per bhp for the old Yam and £133/bhp for the Tuareg :-)

    • @gretchensghost
      @gretchensghost 2 роки тому +2

      @@writestuffmedia so what you're saying is that this is a bargain and I'd actually be saving money. Understood. This logic is bound to work with my whife. 😎

  • @adriantompson
    @adriantompson 2 роки тому +1

    over two years off road every weekend on T7 . i wonder if the 660 would like going under water every week end and keep going.

    • @SimonBrisbane
      @SimonBrisbane 2 роки тому

      No bike likes that without regular maintenance, not even the famed T7

    • @adriantompson
      @adriantompson 2 роки тому

      @@SimonBrisbane check my channel out you will see what i ride through. only put two chains on. bike has done 11,000 miles.

  • @percussion44
    @percussion44 2 роки тому

    costs same as BMW 850 GS , less dealer support, less reliable, less power, certainly less than a Yamaha.
    Niche bike for someone who owns more than 1 bike, and possibly more than 1 adventure bike. Stylish, euro cool. Worth the money for some people loaded with cash maybe. Good choice for a 1 bike guy who will be upset waiting for parts in JulyAug when Italy is on vacation? Other options probably better.

  • @mariuszuk79
    @mariuszuk79 2 роки тому +1

    Great review Simon! Do you think my girlfriend will notice if I steal the beak from her V85TT centenario and attach it to Tuareg? 😏🤔 How was the seat? Is it OK for 3h on motorway?

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому

      Yes, she will.
      Seat - I would say bearable; depends on your pain threshold :-) Seat comfort, for me, is one of the road/off-road compromises that's hardest to solve.

  • @johnboy3100
    @johnboy3100 2 роки тому +1

    Lot of heat for the header..

  • @raywite6665
    @raywite6665 2 роки тому +3

    Their biggest problem is keeping the engine contained in it's case and dealer network. Brilliant to get 100 hp out of a 660.

    • @johnnyblue4799
      @johnnyblue4799 2 роки тому +6

      He said this is tuned to about 80HP. The RS is 100.

    • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
      @JohnSmith-ef8nr 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, the RS660 con rods suffered from fall apart.

    • @johnnyblue4799
      @johnnyblue4799 2 роки тому

      @@JohnSmith-ef8nr Is there a recall?

    • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
      @JohnSmith-ef8nr 2 роки тому +3

      @@johnnyblue4799
      Recall on the 660 engines this year, aprilia are replacing the whole engines.

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 Рік тому

      @@JohnSmith-ef8nr PR disaster

  • @Mikaelsson
    @Mikaelsson 2 роки тому +1

    Is it possible to change the front light cluster 😬

    • @writestuffmedia
      @writestuffmedia 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, not the prettiest. And I wish it had a beak.