Bear in mind that this wasn't standard daily rations but emergency rations (Eiserne portion , literally iron rations) only to be eaten if they were so in the shit that they didn't have access to field kitchens which was the norm, one man in the section would go back and bring food to the front from the Gulaschkanone (mobile field kitchen) and soldiers not actually on the front line would go and eat at the field kitchen. German mess kits are perfect for this as they have lids which are closed securely and the runner can carry a number of them.
@@MrFredstt I think the US pioneered field rations compared to other armies - C rations had tins of meat stew and vegetables for example while British and commonwealth armies still got tins of corned beef in each pack. Even on the front line if they were not cut off, German soldiers were supplied by field kitchens. The design of their mess kits meant it was possible to send soldiers back to the field kitchen with their colleagues' mess tins and bring hot food back.
@@MrFredstt In the first episode of ''Generation War'' there's a scene where a lad bringing a bunch of food back in mess kits is caught out in the open as Ivan attacks their position.
I believe the meat paste became a part of standard rations around the time of the Battle of Stalingrad. Autopsies on German soldiers revealed that most had zero or nearly 0% body fat. Data also showed that soldiers from there often suffered from refeeding syndrome when they left there and were given better "rich" foods to eat in the rear or convalescing in Germany, etc. So the medical experts recommended issuing this potted meat to increase the fat and protein content of the diet. As an aside, Bruce Catton wrote in on of his Civil War books that for a time one of the "western" Union armies had much access to local foods when they invaded northern Alabama. Many got sick, and actually felt better when they went back on their hardtack-based campaign rations. So, consistency seems to be an important facet as well.
@@mth469 Interesting. They also think that many soldiers of Napoleon's Grand Armee died from refeeding syndrome after the Retreat from Moscow when they reached Lithuania, and had a lot of food suddenly available to them. I suspect many people released from concentration and POW camps during WW 2 probably succumbed to this condition as well.
@@valentinius62 In any scenario, always taper in and taper out. If taking medicine for instance, gradually increase the dosage when getting on it and gradually reduce the dosage when getting off it. Stopping a medication you have been taking for a while without tapering out will mess you up. Same for food. Same for water. Same for many things in life.
@@valentinius62 I have read that in WWII, when the Allies freed the camp survivors, they had to keep the survivors from eating too much too soon. The problem was recognised.
@@lancerevell5979 Yes, I recall that. Also, it is suspected that the deceased members of Napoleon's Grand Army who were found in graves in Lithuania died from refeeding syndrome after the retreat from Moscow.
Should have had a German wartime or repro esbit stove. As the Wehrmacht served hot meals basically at all times even in the battlefront Iron Rations where only seen as a temporary emergency food. Troops didn’t just carry these around eating them at will. Only specific orders to do so we’re given normally under dire supply conditions.
And WWII repro Mess Kit and Canteen w/cup. Available on Amazon, though not cheap. I paid nearly forty bucks for the mess kit, but it is an excellent design.
@@johndoogan3712 Yep I know they used Esbit cookers, which have been around since the 1930s. However this wasn't a routine thing, and rations like this were ''emergency'' rations i.e. when they were in deep shit. Even front line troops normally sent a guy back with their mess kits to collect food passed forward from a ''goulash cannon'' i.e. field kitchen, a trailer with a chimney which looked like a cannon when the chimney was folded flat for transport. Their mess kits are ideally designed for this as they are deep, clip shut, and have bail handles. If you watch ''Generation War'' there's a scene where a lad bringing a bunch of food back in mess kits is caught out in the open as Ivan attacks their position.
I read elsewhere that later in the war, many Wehrmacht troopers ditched the gas masks (as neither side used gas) and used the cannisters for carrying other stuff. These cannisters were required to be carried by top brass. Typical German over-engineering. Everybody else used lighter bags. I have the repro German mess kit and canteen. I have used them on moyorcycle camping/roadtrips. They work very well. More useful for me than the USGI kits.
They're probably trying to avoid using trademarks of companies that are still going. If it's shoka chocolate?? It's hideous amounts of caffeine and sugar, no meth. You can get it at Varustalika mail order from Finland.
@@jelkel25 In Germany before and during ww2 there was an over-the-counter drug called Pervitin, which is methamphetamine. I am not certain but I believe it was issued to soldiers as well, but if not they could have easily picked it up at a drug store before going off to invade Poland or something.
@@bluudlung Can't remember seeing or reading about Pervatin being put into chocolate, usually small white pills but meth could have been put into chocolate, I don't know.
German ww2 iron rations had no sugar and the coffee was erazt which was coffee mixed with some other stuff the biscuits were usually rye bread crisp bread
After finding a new hole bunch of videos of people eating actual vintage emergency rations (most by the same guy, who I was constantly worried about getting food poisoning or worse), it’s nice to find someone trying a reproduction instead. It allows us to see what the ration would look like without me worrying about the rust and rot on the product.
You may be right that this one is factional, but the Prussian Army allready inventet the soldier caryed, standardised, industrieal produced Army Ration 1867 with the famos Erbswurst (peasoup; was solt comercial until 2018), hartack and/or Bread and meat tins as Eiserneportion Iron Ration. This was only be used when no kitchen was availible or the lines to th kitchen wher brocken(food cames to soldier not soldier to kitchen)ad an officer ordered to open the Ration. But also the Ration was one keyelement of the success in the war against france 1870/71. The Wehrmacht had as well some Moral and Energy refilling addional rations with food, sweets and Cigarettes, These where handed some per month for personal use.
Oh and as an American soldier, haven't seen a whole lot of soups in the field rations (MRE'S). There's a beef stew one but its honestly just a ration pack trying to replicate the meal itself. As for the hot drink there's usually a coffee or hot chocolate aspect you can use
Because American MREs are actually poisonous trash instead of food. Once I tried a Euro ration (literally any of them) i realised US MREs are only impressive to grade schoolers.
I don't recall getting soup or hot stew, either. I associate those with European hot rations. The US Army has long been obsessed with hot coffee, though. Reminds me of the cook in the John Wayne movie The Cowboys who promised hot biscuits and coffee every morning no matter what. When I was in, there was a doctrinal aversion to sacrificing resources for water beyond the bare basics (mostly coffee I guess). Though there are mobile field showers and laundries, many frowned upon them as a waste of water, transport, fuel and personnel. They also didn't want maneuver troops especially carrying around extra water for rehydrating food nor fuel and portable stoves. The MRE was developed to be not only lightweight, but also to eliminate the need for adding water, and the need for external heat resources. I did get a C ration or two that had a packet of blue trioxane tablets, probably for making...coffee. Of course, at this time, we were facing off against the Warsaw Pact and a highly fluid, mobile scenario was being anticipated. Thus an eye to increasing mobility, reducing supply chains, not clogging up roads with extra vehicles, etc.
@@valentinius62 well times are a little different now. Coffee is still considered essential. The logic behind the modern MRE makes sense. Water is heavy. I've only seen field shower and laundry units once or twice, and the showers were supplemented by contract shower setups. Of course we were out there for nearly a month, and I was with a sustainment brigade so there wasn't a huge amount of maneuvering at our level. I know our forward support guys would get rotated back to our AO whenever possible for shower and laundry. I assume the manuever guys were as well, but I never saw them. I was one of the battle captains and also the force protection OIC because we were a bit short staffed so I was lucky to get 10 minutes to use the latrine. Most days my options were get some extra shut eye or wait in line for over an hour for a shower so I usually made do with baby wipes. Glad I brought as many as I did. In a real pinch we just sent guys back to main contonement with as many laundry bags as they could carry as part of a detail. No shortage of volunteers for that because they knew they could grab a quick shower and hit the shoppette to grab some pogey bait.
The correct labeling should have been "Eiserne Portion" (i.e. "Iron Portion"). The "Eiserne Ration" (i.e. "Iron Ration") was the contemporary description for the so to call ultimate fodder for horses, mulis etc. And it's dark chocolate because this sort of chocolate is more resistant against melting in warm conditions. It has nothing to do with european or german taste or preferences (we Germans also favor milk-chocolate!).
As someone said, earlier this would have been emergency rations,Iron Rations. A can of meat or stew, Hardtack like biscuits, tea or coffee, and sugar, a tin of cheese, maybe some dried fruit? A jet boil? An Esbit stove and a German mess kit would have been more historically accurate? Sorry, but I couldn't help it? Nice, interesting display. Oh, yea I forgot about the chocolate.
If you get the 1944 version is it horsemeat, bread thats a quarter sawdust, and tomato soup thats actually water with the same red dye they use to color the transmission fluid in the trucks? Any chance for a meth pill? I dont use em myself but Hanz is starting to get the mites again if you know what I mean...
One of the emergency rations, was called Erbswurst. It was made into a sausage, that had dried, ground up peas or pea flour, bacon fat and spices. It was supposed to make a rich soup. Sorry, but I just thought about it?
Interesting. Speaking of soup, not much soup served in the field in the U.S.Army. Combat individual rations ( 1970's C- Rations) never had any type of soup. 1980's MRE's again no soup. F.t. Jackson 1970 basic training the cooks brought out large pots of noodle soup. On very cold days this was done so no trainee's died from hypothermia. The soup made from dry powder mix was nasty. Most of the soup was dumped out of our canteen cups on the ground.
I have a huge bag of the small bits from the British army rations, tea, coffee, chlorine tablets, juice powders to get rid of taste of said chlorine, matches and I can't remember there being any powdered soup. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not.
@@jelkel25 Back in the late 80s/early 90s there were cup-a-soup type white sachets of soup in every 24 hr ration pack - I remember mushroom as being most common - and small foil sachets of beef stock, both of which could be added to ''all in'' stews in a mess tin with contents of tins (minced beef etc.) mixed with crushed biscuits brown.
Pre-Falklands War, British Army Compo individual ration packs used to contain sufficient makings for about 4 drinks/day - 1 per meal plus a spare. After the Falklands, and based on the learnings there, the quantity of brew kit in an individual ration pack went up markedly. IMS the quantity of hot drink makings went up to about 8 - 10 pints/day (plus flavoured electrolyte crystals). Give a squaddie sufficient brews and he’ll keep going all day.
Used to eat rations from WWII as a dependent living in Germany late 60s early 70s. Had an esbit stove and plenty of fuel. C rats mainly. No German WWII rations could be found..
OK. The ones I've seen, the meat ect was in aluminium foil type packages, like what is used for more expensive cat food in the UK. Modern French army rations still use them. Maybe those ones were made in France??
Imagine being a German soldier in those times and you get mortality wounded knowing the last meal you had was powdered soup and a couple chocolate bars.
US rations typically didn't have dehydrated soup. The only things that needed water were the instant coffee and fruit drink mix. The meals were heat (or not) and eat, much like today's MREs.
That was dolled out as needed, usually either by the Captain of the company, or by the medics. It was fairly rare to have an average soldier have more than a single pill on him, and more often than not, not even that. Use of Pervitin was at its peak during the Blitzkrieg, and a bit into Operation Barbarossa, then quickly fell off due to the brass figuring out about the very undesirable side effects (such as the sometimes two day long hangover that often happened when the troops came down) and the very nasty nature of a good deal of the boys getting addicted and having to basically be kept on watch while they detoxed was not conducive to battlefield logistics. During the retreat out of Russia, after losing the 6th Army in Stalingrad, use of Pervitin started picking back up for use of rear guard troops. The thoughts were basically that the rear guard, if encountering a heavy force of Russians attacking the retreating German collumns, would then be best used in more of a 300 capacity than the normal, "hold them off for a bit, then retreat yourself" rear guard. During this type of action having soldiers that were unafraid of death (one of the things that tended to happen on Pervitin) was useful, because they were almost definitely going to die. Also, long term side effects were not worrisome, because any guys coming back into the fold after such an action would be so few in number as to not be concerning logistically. It was a cold, calculated, and diabolical thing to do, but hey, that is why they are known universally as the bad guys.
Since rations had to be light in weight & easy to stack on a freight supply train, one would think today's common cup-o-noodles (Nissan) would be a perfect meal. I don't know if the Japanese had this during the war, but I wouldn't be surprised considering how inventive they were.
Soups are amazing for rations. They don't weigh a lot or take up a lot of space, but provide a nice caloric boost as well as hydration. And hydration is more important than food, for survival. Plus, who doesn't like soup? It tastes good, and it's easy to eat. Plus, if you have to treat your dodgy water, the soup covers up the taste of the nasty chemicals needed to make the water safe to drink. My hurricane prep foods contain a LOT of soups, because they keep a long time, are tasty, and provide a source of clean water if the infrastructure is compromised.
Generally it depended on 1. How intense the battle was, and 2. How mangled/ blood soaked the body was. Whole uneaten ration packs weren’t commonly found on the persons after they were killed in action. Rations were commonly consumed in between battles, or when given the order to hold their positions for the night/day. This is the only time, when they actually had enough time to set up, build fires, and consume rations. Rations were kept in the supply depot, at the HQ, until needed. Generally when given the order to gear up, and move out that was the time when rations were gathered up from supplies, usually each member of a squad or unit, was given specific tasks when gearing up, like one guy would get ammo, one guy would get medical supplies, one guy would get rations, and one guy would get water, and another if in a vehicle convoy fuel for the vehicle. In American K rations cigarettes were included in the ration, generally in a 3 pack. German rations, they separated cigarettes from the rations, for fear of the tobacco tainting the food, and instead just included them in supplies, that way whoever smoked would get cigarettes, and who didn’t, didn’t have to get cigarettes at all. The Americans all got cigarettes, and who ever didn’t smoke could just trade them for an extra pack of biscuits, or something that someone didn’t like as much. As far as looting itself, off of dead enemy’s, for rations, well there was rarely any food left over from a ration, food was kind of a shortage on all sides during the war, most generally they consumed around 950 calories a day, but burned like 3,000 calories a day. So buy the time it was time to eat, they were pretty hungry, hungry enough to eat the whole ration, and then still be hungry. Most of the time cigarettes, alcohol, and pistols were items looted, sometimes medical supplies were looted if found. The Luger pistol was one item sought after to be looted, mainly because of its value. The Germans only issued them to officers, and if you were caught with one on you, by a German soldier, or other officer, it told them that you’ve killed an officer to obtain it, and they automatically executed you for it. The Germans were probably the biggest looters of the whole war. They didn’t do their looting on the battlefield, but rather the towns that they seized control over in enemy countries, they looted, valuables like alcohol more specifically fine top shelf vintage wines, paintings, gold, gems, etc. They also looted off of prisoners from war, and Jews they captured, of personal jewelry, including wedding bands, gold false teeth even, was extracted right out of their jaws. All seized good pure enough was melted down into gold bullion, for one to make it untraceable, and irreplaceable, and two, to fund Nazi projects like, building more concentration camps, and building weapons facilities, and funding the sciences, and testing of top projects, like the V2 rocket, and jet engines for for the latest model of Luftwaffe fighter planes. The wines, were mainly for Hitler, as he was a fine wine aficionado, as well as Hitlers top men, and officers. You could literally say the entirety of the war on the German side was funded by looting!
@@hunterprowsemrereviews9141 some awesome points there, thanks for sharing. Like you said as the war was going longer and longer the troops were getting less and less food compared to the start of the war. Cigarettes, weapons, ammo, morphine like you said would be to big ticket items.
@@hunterprowsemrereviews9141 Actually the Pistole 08 (Luger) and Pistole 38 where not restricted to officers. Those often went for Walter PP and Mauser HSc. P08 and P38 where also issued to MG crews and tanks
5:50 i dont know what Gewdhrletstat means but its not german. I think it should be gewehrleistet mean. In this text are couple of wrong word... like lugern... it had to be lagern...
strange most German repro rations I get come with matche stho this could be more of an "iron ration. when I play German solder I usually get a German ration and a soviet one (I captured) " as they are better for my palette.
It amazes me that the Germans had their own field rations but they could only eat them on command of their immediate CO. Germans really slacked off when it came to logistics and it never really made sense why.
German army operates on the idea that your field kitchen provides food to you. That was true even for the cold war west german army. They had portable thermos cases etc (called Thermen) for that. The post WW2 ones are jerry can sized
OMFG what has the person designing this been smoking? The "German" on the packaging is so full of stupid errors. Can't they get someone who actually speaks and understands German to proof-read?
no, it wouldn’t. Pervitin was really only used during the blitzkrieg of europe and very early operation barborossa. it was found that the pervitin gave the soldiers 2 day hangovers so they stopped issuing it. plus, this is a sort of ration pack that was rarely issued aswell. it was issued to soldiers after heavy fighting as sort of a morale boosting reward for all of that brutal fighting.
it would have been ideal that you would have boiled the water and prepare the soup and coffee using the German mess tins, using the original Esbit burner
All the items look terribly unauthentic to me. First off, ink was expensive and rationed. Therefore, they put as little printed text on all the historic items as possible. They did not over-decorate everything with eagles and swastikas, Hollywood does it though! Secondly but most important: Fracture fonts ("Gothic letters") were completely abolished by the Nazi government in 1940 by order and in 1941 by law and replaced by Antiqua font letters. The reason was that Martin Bormann as one of the highest-ranking Nazis had come to the (false!) conclusion that gothic letters had been invented in the 14th century "by a Jew". Factually, not one single man invented these letters but the Nazis were pretty stupid, believed Bormann, and abolished fracture completely. The real reason was the expansion of the Nazi empire, and most people outside of Germany and the Nordic countries couldn't read those letters but the Antiqua font, of course. To sum it up, no, Wehrmacht rations had absolutely no fracture text on them at all. What you showed us in the video is completely fake, I'm sorry.
Lets get this on to a tray. Nice
Thank you kind sir
Try some originality....
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Ok, so I guess your originality has expired. You'll have to comment without any.
Thx steve
Good ole Steve
Are you on every channel
Bear in mind that this wasn't standard daily rations but emergency rations (Eiserne portion , literally iron rations) only to be eaten if they were so in the shit that they didn't have access to field kitchens which was the norm, one man in the section would go back and bring food to the front from the Gulaschkanone (mobile field kitchen) and soldiers not actually on the front line would go and eat at the field kitchen. German mess kits are perfect for this as they have lids which are closed securely and the runner can carry a number of them.
So were field rations not a big thing in the German army as it was in the US?
@@MrFredstt I think the US pioneered field rations compared to other armies - C rations had tins of meat stew and vegetables for example while British and commonwealth armies still got tins of corned beef in each pack. Even on the front line if they were not cut off, German soldiers were supplied by field kitchens. The design of their mess kits meant it was possible to send soldiers back to the field kitchen with their colleagues' mess tins and bring hot food back.
@@MrFredstt In the first episode of ''Generation War'' there's a scene where a lad bringing a bunch of food back in mess kits is caught out in the open as Ivan attacks their position.
@@simonh6371 Thanks for the extra information! I'll have to check out Generation War
@@simonh6371also in the 1993 movie Stalingrad, two men bring a disappointing soup back to their platoon and are shot at by Soviet snipers.
I believe the meat paste became a part of standard rations around the time of the Battle of Stalingrad. Autopsies on German soldiers revealed that most had zero or nearly 0% body fat. Data also showed that soldiers from there often suffered from refeeding syndrome when they left there and were given better "rich" foods to eat in the rear or convalescing in Germany, etc.
So the medical experts recommended issuing this potted meat to increase the fat and protein content of the diet.
As an aside, Bruce Catton wrote in on of his Civil War books that for a time one of the "western" Union armies had much access to local foods when they invaded northern Alabama. Many got sick, and actually felt better when they went back on their hardtack-based campaign rations.
So, consistency seems to be an important facet as well.
The microflora in the gut gets used to one type of food and they multiply. But when another type of food arrives, they are unable to digest it...
@@mth469 Interesting. They also think that many soldiers of Napoleon's Grand Armee died from refeeding syndrome after the Retreat from Moscow when they reached Lithuania, and had a lot of food suddenly available to them.
I suspect many people released from concentration and POW camps during WW 2 probably succumbed to this condition as well.
@@valentinius62
In any scenario, always taper in and taper out. If taking medicine for instance, gradually increase the dosage when getting on it and gradually reduce the dosage when getting off it.
Stopping a medication you have been taking for a while without tapering out will mess you up.
Same for food. Same for water. Same for many things in life.
@@valentinius62 I have read that in WWII, when the Allies freed the camp survivors, they had to keep the survivors from eating too much too soon. The problem was recognised.
@@lancerevell5979 Yes, I recall that. Also, it is suspected that the deceased members of Napoleon's Grand Army who were found in graves in Lithuania died from refeeding syndrome after the retreat from Moscow.
Bruh your intro had me dead. I salute the commitment to your channel.
Should have had a German wartime or repro esbit stove. As the Wehrmacht served hot meals basically at all times even in the battlefront Iron Rations where only seen as a temporary emergency food. Troops didn’t just carry these around eating them at will. Only specific orders to do so we’re given normally under dire supply conditions.
And WWII repro Mess Kit and Canteen w/cup. Available on Amazon, though not cheap. I paid nearly forty bucks for the mess kit, but it is an excellent design.
If you are in the cold and hungry you will eat almost anything.......cheers for review..
I,m a U.S. Army veteran from the 80s and unfortunately there was no soups issued with are ration. I wished they did issued soup with it. 😊
Interesting review. US soldiers in WW2 got fed a lot of Spam.
There I was thinking those long metal cylinders the Wehrmacht carried were for gasmasks, but now I realise they were for their issue Jetboil.
LOL!
The lucky ones would have used a Juwel gasoline cooker similar to the Optimus SVEA otherwise their solid fuelled Esbit cookers.
@@johndoogan3712 Yep I know they used Esbit cookers, which have been around since the 1930s. However this wasn't a routine thing, and rations like this were ''emergency'' rations i.e. when they were in deep shit. Even front line troops normally sent a guy back with their mess kits to collect food passed forward from a ''goulash cannon'' i.e. field kitchen, a trailer with a chimney which looked like a cannon when the chimney was folded flat for transport. Their mess kits are ideally designed for this as they are deep, clip shut, and have bail handles. If you watch ''Generation War'' there's a scene where a lad bringing a bunch of food back in mess kits is caught out in the open as Ivan attacks their position.
I read elsewhere that later in the war, many Wehrmacht troopers ditched the gas masks (as neither side used gas) and used the cannisters for carrying other stuff. These cannisters were required to be carried by top brass.
Typical German over-engineering. Everybody else used lighter bags.
I have the repro German mess kit and canteen. I have used them on moyorcycle camping/roadtrips. They work very well. More useful for me than the USGI kits.
Me forgetting this is re-creation of what it would have been in the past: He just ate meth chocolate, he's about to be high af
They're probably trying to avoid using trademarks of companies that are still going. If it's shoka chocolate?? It's hideous amounts of caffeine and sugar, no meth. You can get it at Varustalika mail order from Finland.
I thought the same thing abput gobs of caffeine in the Schokalade. Day two: “why am I still awake...”
@@jelkel25 In Germany before and during ww2 there was an over-the-counter drug called Pervitin, which is methamphetamine. I am not certain but I believe it was issued to soldiers as well, but if not they could have easily picked it up at a drug store before going off to invade Poland or something.
@@bluudlung Can't remember seeing or reading about Pervatin being put into chocolate, usually small white pills but meth could have been put into chocolate, I don't know.
@@jelkel25 Pill form only.
German ww2 iron rations had no sugar and the coffee was erazt which was coffee mixed with some other stuff the biscuits were usually rye bread crisp bread
Other videos thatI have seen show the vegetable soup as a big tablet to disolve in water
Really enjoyed watching this.
After finding a new hole bunch of videos of people eating actual vintage emergency rations (most by the same guy, who I was constantly worried about getting food poisoning or worse), it’s nice to find someone trying a reproduction instead. It allows us to see what the ration would look like without me worrying about the rust and rot on the product.
But, I don't care that you're worried about rust and rot while I'm watching Steve eat old rations... Why would anyone care?
@@camojoe83 Because watching a video where a person dies from all the disease in a can of food just to entertain people is a terrible idea.
That's SteveMRE1989. He does a lot of period and international rations.
@@paulwolf7562 Among others.
@@jesternario Like that one asian girl.
In fact this is a fantasy ration, germans only had boxed candy-treat ration. They mostly received simple food items that arent packed as mres.
Finally someone who understands
yeah this is very bad fiction ration, not even close to the real stuff
You may be right that this one is factional, but the Prussian Army allready inventet the soldier caryed, standardised, industrieal produced Army Ration 1867 with the famos Erbswurst (peasoup; was solt comercial until 2018), hartack and/or Bread and meat tins as Eiserneportion Iron Ration. This was only be used when no kitchen was availible or the lines to th kitchen wher brocken(food cames to soldier not soldier to kitchen)ad an officer ordered to open the Ration. But also the Ration was one keyelement of the success in the war against france 1870/71.
The Wehrmacht had as well some Moral and Energy refilling addional rations with food, sweets and Cigarettes, These where handed some per month for personal use.
should get an asbit stove for more accuracy or a small enclosed tiny fire
Also a breadbag , mess tin , m31 water canteen & german foldable fork-spoon mess tool would looks awesome
Gerfer = Ww2 German spoon fork
@@augustvonmackensen5726 Why not just go the whole hog and dress up in Waffen SS uniform too with an iron cross medal
@@simonh6371 At that point, pervitin is a must addition.
Oh and as an American soldier, haven't seen a whole lot of soups in the field rations (MRE'S). There's a beef stew one but its honestly just a ration pack trying to replicate the meal itself. As for the hot drink there's usually a coffee or hot chocolate aspect you can use
Because American MREs are actually poisonous trash instead of food. Once I tried a Euro ration (literally any of them) i realised US MREs are only impressive to grade schoolers.
I never said I was impressed by them. Just pointing out a difference but okay
I don't recall getting soup or hot stew, either. I associate those with European hot rations.
The US Army has long been obsessed with hot coffee, though. Reminds me of the cook in the John Wayne movie The Cowboys who promised hot biscuits and coffee every morning no matter what.
When I was in, there was a doctrinal aversion to sacrificing resources for water beyond the bare basics (mostly coffee I guess). Though there are mobile field showers and laundries, many frowned upon them as a waste of water, transport, fuel and personnel.
They also didn't want maneuver troops especially carrying around extra water for rehydrating food nor fuel and portable stoves.
The MRE was developed to be not only lightweight, but also to eliminate the need for adding water, and the need for external heat resources.
I did get a C ration or two that had a packet of blue trioxane tablets, probably for making...coffee.
Of course, at this time, we were facing off against the Warsaw Pact and a highly fluid, mobile scenario was being anticipated. Thus an eye to increasing mobility, reducing supply chains, not clogging up roads with extra vehicles, etc.
@@valentinius62 well times are a little different now. Coffee is still considered essential. The logic behind the modern MRE makes sense. Water is heavy. I've only seen field shower and laundry units once or twice, and the showers were supplemented by contract shower setups. Of course we were out there for nearly a month, and I was with a sustainment brigade so there wasn't a huge amount of maneuvering at our level. I know our forward support guys would get rotated back to our AO whenever possible for shower and laundry. I assume the manuever guys were as well, but I never saw them. I was one of the battle captains and also the force protection OIC because we were a bit short staffed so I was lucky to get 10 minutes to use the latrine. Most days my options were get some extra shut eye or wait in line for over an hour for a shower so I usually made do with baby wipes. Glad I brought as many as I did. In a real pinch we just sent guys back to main contonement with as many laundry bags as they could carry as part of a detail. No shortage of volunteers for that because they knew they could grab a quick shower and hit the shoppette to grab some pogey bait.
@@camojoe83 poisonous? Really, seem many of us lived through years of eating them.
yep cold, wet tired, help to be raining/snowing. use pond water and esbit stove
The correct labeling should have been "Eiserne Portion" (i.e. "Iron Portion"). The "Eiserne Ration" (i.e. "Iron Ration") was the contemporary description for the so to call ultimate fodder for horses, mulis etc.
And it's dark chocolate because this sort of chocolate is more resistant against melting in warm conditions. It has nothing to do with european or german taste or preferences (we Germans also favor milk-chocolate!).
I know nobody asked but I like dark chocolate
Also, dark chocolate is more resistant to blooming (fat seperation) when subject to rough storage.
I don't think most soldiers would jump in a pond before they ate their rations.
interesting start - jumping into water to simulate wet and cold.
Remember, the uniforms worn were mostly woolen.
As someone said, earlier this would have been emergency rations,Iron Rations. A can of meat or stew, Hardtack like biscuits, tea or coffee, and sugar, a tin of cheese, maybe some dried fruit? A jet boil? An Esbit stove and a German mess kit would have been more historically accurate? Sorry, but I couldn't help it? Nice, interesting display. Oh, yea I forgot about the chocolate.
These look like a great ration, new subscriber / reviewer.
Cheers
Yep, and it's not even from Germany or from WW2.
2:25
stukas bombing
on the backround
Right lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you get the 1944 version is it horsemeat, bread thats a quarter sawdust, and tomato soup thats actually water with the same red dye they use to color the transmission fluid in the trucks?
Any chance for a meth pill? I dont use em myself but Hanz is starting to get the mites again if you know what I mean...
Dosenbrot ( Canned bread ) is still in sale here in germany.
The only canned bread here in the USA is the B&M dark bread and raison bread, both sweet and more like a dessert.
Looks pretty fake to me. Greetings from Germany! Stay safe everyone. ✌️😉
Long live Germany from Indonesia
Schau wenn er das knackebrot in die kamera hällt bei 1:47 da sind unfassbar viele schreibfehler auf der packung denke das war eher unüblich oder
What part of.. reproduction..don't ya get numbnut 🙌
It’s a recreation, not the real thing
If it was a real thing he would probably die
One of the emergency rations, was called Erbswurst. It was made into a sausage, that had dried, ground up peas or pea flour, bacon fat and spices. It was supposed to make a rich soup. Sorry, but I just thought about it?
Interesting. Speaking of soup, not much soup served in the field in the U.S.Army.
Combat individual rations ( 1970's C- Rations) never had any type of soup. 1980's MRE's again no soup.
F.t. Jackson 1970 basic training the cooks brought out large pots of noodle soup. On very cold days this was done so no trainee's died from hypothermia.
The soup made from dry powder mix was nasty. Most of the soup was dumped out of our canteen cups on the ground.
I have a huge bag of the small bits from the British army rations, tea, coffee, chlorine tablets, juice powders to get rid of taste of said chlorine, matches and I can't remember there being any powdered soup. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not.
@@jelkel25 Back in the late 80s/early 90s there were cup-a-soup type white sachets of soup in every 24 hr ration pack - I remember mushroom as being most common - and small foil sachets of beef stock, both of which could be added to ''all in'' stews in a mess tin with contents of tins (minced beef etc.) mixed with crushed biscuits brown.
Pre-Falklands War, British Army Compo individual ration packs used to contain sufficient makings for about 4 drinks/day - 1 per meal plus a spare. After the Falklands, and based on the learnings there, the quantity of brew kit in an individual ration pack went up markedly. IMS the quantity of hot drink makings went up to about 8 - 10 pints/day (plus flavoured electrolyte crystals). Give a squaddie sufficient brews and he’ll keep going all day.
Keep in mind Sir, that by mid-war, that Chocolate your tasting would have been most likely Ersatz; made from Soy Beans &/or Hydrogenated Oil.
Used to eat rations from WWII as a dependent living in Germany late 60s early 70s. Had an esbit stove and plenty of fuel. C rats mainly. No German WWII rations could be found..
Good video very informative I drink coffee black too 😂
Do you happen to have the link where you bought it?
www.maruchan.com/products/ramen/
if you get link just try to avoid it lol
@@robertg.durant8489 dang he said soupa marucha lol.
A+ for effort. You forgot the extra 25 pounds of gear though 😂 tastes even better with the gear on.
Welcome to the hypothermic chef show! ......complete with Spam....
OK. The ones I've seen, the meat ect was in aluminium foil type packages, like what is used for more expensive cat food in the UK. Modern French army rations still use them. Maybe those ones were made in France??
Can't be made in Germany with the Reichstamp on it. Nazi iconography is illegal to reproduce or sell in Germany.
Thank you for the review
Did it come with the Meth? erm I mean Pervitin? Or do you have to source that yourself
Do you where you got this ration food from please send me a link if you did
Was on eBay.
@@51North okay thanks 😊
@@51North I didn't find it
What seller did you buy it from?
this intro is amazing. he's absolutly right, you gotta be cold and wet lmao
3:41
so what you're saying is,
all the lads do it?
Could you just imagine the shitstorm if the chocolates were stamped with a swastika, and you handed them out for Halloween!
Imagine being a German soldier in those times and you get mortality wounded knowing the last meal you had was powdered soup and a couple chocolate bars.
Better than dying in an empty stomach oh and a nice joint to finish would be great
You wouldn't get this, because this is not a german ww2 mre but a pretty poor fake.
the dedication Is great
And all for a fake ration.
Where did you get this?
Where did you record this? It’s beautiful
The Blue Lagoon in Buckinghamshire, UK
US rations typically didn't have dehydrated soup. The only things that needed water were the instant coffee and fruit drink mix. The meals were heat (or not) and eat, much like today's MREs.
How many of these did they get in a day?
It’s nice to try out a ration where there’s emergency sirens and the sounds of airbus flying by. Lol
What about the Pervitin, wouldn’t be authentic with out that 😂
Methamphetamine was important!
That was dolled out as needed, usually either by the Captain of the company, or by the medics. It was fairly rare to have an average soldier have more than a single pill on him, and more often than not, not even that. Use of Pervitin was at its peak during the Blitzkrieg, and a bit into Operation Barbarossa, then quickly fell off due to the brass figuring out about the very undesirable side effects (such as the sometimes two day long hangover that often happened when the troops came down) and the very nasty nature of a good deal of the boys getting addicted and having to basically be kept on watch while they detoxed was not conducive to battlefield logistics. During the retreat out of Russia, after losing the 6th Army in Stalingrad, use of Pervitin started picking back up for use of rear guard troops. The thoughts were basically that the rear guard, if encountering a heavy force of Russians attacking the retreating German collumns, would then be best used in more of a 300 capacity than the normal, "hold them off for a bit, then retreat yourself" rear guard. During this type of action having soldiers that were unafraid of death (one of the things that tended to happen on Pervitin) was useful, because they were almost definitely going to die. Also, long term side effects were not worrisome, because any guys coming back into the fold after such an action would be so few in number as to not be concerning logistically. It was a cold, calculated, and diabolical thing to do, but hey, that is why they are known universally as the bad guys.
@@Jeremiah90526 Nowadays they are beginning to look more like the real good guys though
Great stuff. Very true.
2 questions. How much and where can I get this?
Where can I get these packs Have checked eBay with no luck
Since rations had to be light in weight & easy to stack on a freight supply train, one would think today's common cup-o-noodles (Nissan) would be a perfect meal. I don't know if the Japanese had this during the war, but I wouldn't be surprised considering how inventive they were.
Soups are amazing for rations. They don't weigh a lot or take up a lot of space, but provide a nice caloric boost as well as hydration. And hydration is more important than food, for survival. Plus, who doesn't like soup? It tastes good, and it's easy to eat. Plus, if you have to treat your dodgy water, the soup covers up the taste of the nasty chemicals needed to make the water safe to drink.
My hurricane prep foods contain a LOT of soups, because they keep a long time, are tasty, and provide a source of clean water if the infrastructure is compromised.
Let me tell you there were so many misspells they should really work on this, im german.
We need a review of him trying panzershokolade
Edit : I knew I butchered it leave me alone
Please post link where can i get this one?
Donde lo compraste?
One thing I always think about is during all the fighting did soldiers ransack their dead enemies supplies and steal their rations and cigarettes 🤔
Generally it depended on 1. How intense the battle was, and 2. How mangled/ blood soaked the body was. Whole uneaten ration packs weren’t commonly found on the persons after they were killed in action. Rations were commonly consumed in between battles, or when given the order to hold their positions for the night/day. This is the only time, when they actually had enough time to set up, build fires, and consume rations. Rations were kept in the supply depot, at the HQ, until needed. Generally when given the order to gear up, and move out that was the time when rations were gathered up from supplies, usually each member of a squad or unit, was given specific tasks when gearing up, like one guy would get ammo, one guy would get medical supplies, one guy would get rations, and one guy would get water, and another if in a vehicle convoy fuel for the vehicle. In American K rations cigarettes were included in the ration, generally in a 3 pack. German rations, they separated cigarettes from the rations, for fear of the tobacco tainting the food, and instead just included them in supplies, that way whoever smoked would get cigarettes, and who didn’t, didn’t have to get cigarettes at all. The Americans all got cigarettes, and who ever didn’t smoke could just trade them for an extra pack of biscuits, or something that someone didn’t like as much. As far as looting itself, off of dead enemy’s, for rations, well there was rarely any food left over from a ration, food was kind of a shortage on all sides during the war, most generally they consumed around 950 calories a day, but burned like 3,000 calories a day. So buy the time it was time to eat, they were pretty hungry, hungry enough to eat the whole ration, and then still be hungry. Most of the time cigarettes, alcohol, and pistols were items looted, sometimes medical supplies were looted if found. The Luger pistol was one item sought after to be looted, mainly because of its value. The Germans only issued them to officers, and if you were caught with one on you, by a German soldier, or other officer, it told them that you’ve killed an officer to obtain it, and they automatically executed you for it. The Germans were probably the biggest looters of the whole war. They didn’t do their looting on the battlefield, but rather the towns that they seized control over in enemy countries, they looted, valuables like alcohol more specifically fine top shelf vintage wines, paintings, gold, gems, etc. They also looted off of prisoners from war, and Jews they captured, of personal jewelry, including wedding bands, gold false teeth even, was extracted right out of their jaws. All seized good pure enough was melted down into gold bullion, for one to make it untraceable, and irreplaceable, and two, to fund Nazi projects like, building more concentration camps, and building weapons facilities, and funding the sciences, and testing of top projects, like the V2 rocket, and jet engines for for the latest model of Luftwaffe fighter planes. The wines, were mainly for Hitler, as he was a fine wine aficionado, as well as Hitlers top men, and officers. You could literally say the entirety of the war on the German side was funded by looting!
@@hunterprowsemrereviews9141 some awesome points there, thanks for sharing. Like you said as the war was going longer and longer the troops were getting less and less food compared to the start of the war. Cigarettes, weapons, ammo, morphine like you said would be to big ticket items.
@@hunterprowsemrereviews9141 Actually the Pistole 08 (Luger) and Pistole 38 where not restricted to officers. Those often went for Walter PP and Mauser HSc. P08 and P38 where also issued to MG crews and tanks
Taking the other side's rations (and other gear) was commonplace.
By any chance do you know if there is a link to purchase that ration
The seller doesn't always have them up in ebay. I searched 'WW2 ration' to find this
Where do I get these
You lost me on the dunk in the water.....I know they needed a can opener for the beef...Pretty cool re-issue rations...
What is the company that produces those??
Small ebayer seller, they don't always have listings up
the german on those packages if any is terrible, the typography as well. i always thought reenactors would pay attention to detail & accuracy?!
The canned meat was probably braunschweiger
I love Braunschweiger, and still eat it often. Must be my German genes (from Mother's side).
What company did you buy this from.
Not sure they used Knäckebröd (knackebrot) in german rations since thats a swedish crisp bread.
5:50 i dont know what Gewdhrletstat means but its not german.
I think it should be gewehrleistet mean.
In this text are couple of wrong word... like lugern... it had to be lagern...
Probably this paket is fake.
It also say Daurbrot. It is Dauerbrot.
And Oskar Schindler was someone other.
Maybe u know the movie Schindlers list....
Yes it's reproduction
This was meant to be "gewährleistet" which means "guaranteed"
Name of manufacturer?
Probably not a genuine replica because some ingredients are not used today.
And some ingredients may well be better quality now than back then?
Lol, what is a genuine replica? Idiot.
to open can you use bayonet
I seriously question the labeling .
Where can you buy this Repro rations?
These were on ebay
You're stepping on my guy Steve's toes bra.
I don't think you misunderstood the recipe for the Panzer Schokolade
I wonder if they had a Kosher option...
The spelling mistakes are great. Who wrote the text of the package labels? Monty Python?
Jet boil ? Ww2 vintage.
I'm assuming that's a repuerducshon of a ww2 food rashin
I don't know about other countries, but an American ration would've included a few cigarettes and matches.
This is an emergency ration not a full field ration like a C-Ration or a cold war german EPA
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How has that chocolate not turned to dust
Because its not a real MRE
My man is dedicated)
strange most German repro rations I get come with matche stho this could be more of an "iron ration. when I play German solder I usually get a German ration and a soviet one (I captured) " as they are better for my palette.
This is a fake done by inkjet printers. They even cannot print 'Schokolade'. OMG!
I'd keep the package it looks cool
It amazes me that the Germans had their own field rations but they could only eat them on command of their immediate CO. Germans really slacked off when it came to logistics and it never really made sense why.
All of that fighting tech and they literally let their soldiers starve unless they were an SS officer. Adolf was a crazy man.
German army operates on the idea that your field kitchen provides food to you. That was true even for the cold war west german army. They had portable thermos cases etc (called Thermen) for that. The post WW2 ones are jerry can sized
Ja! Chocolata is gut. Mir frund. . Danke gut kino!
That's only for fighter front'line
Wear can I get one? I am dying for it lol
OMFG what has the person designing this been smoking? The "German" on the packaging is so full of stupid errors. Can't they get someone who actually speaks and understands German to proof-read?
I think the powdered soup the Germans would have been eating was pea soup, not tomato.
The original would have had some Pervitin
no, it wouldn’t. Pervitin was really only used during the blitzkrieg of europe and very early operation barborossa. it was found that the pervitin gave the soldiers 2 day hangovers so they stopped issuing it. plus, this is a sort of ration pack that was rarely issued aswell. it was issued to soldiers after heavy fighting as sort of a morale boosting reward for all of that brutal fighting.
@@SunnidaleProductions Is a Pervitin expert known as a Pervert?They would hand that s&^% out like Ju Ju Bees
@@SunnidaleProductions They also issued it to soldiers at Field hospitals to wounded personnel
NO SMOKES?? I believe a squeez tube of cheeze was included in Iron Rations.
it would have been ideal that you would have boiled the water and prepare the soup and coffee using the German mess tins, using the original Esbit burner
its an emergancy ration not a normaal one this are issude for extreme problemse
All the items look terribly unauthentic to me. First off, ink was expensive and rationed. Therefore, they put as little printed text on all the historic items as possible. They did not over-decorate everything with eagles and swastikas, Hollywood does it though! Secondly but most important: Fracture fonts ("Gothic letters") were completely abolished by the Nazi government in 1940 by order and in 1941 by law and replaced by Antiqua font letters. The reason was that Martin Bormann as one of the highest-ranking Nazis had come to the (false!) conclusion that gothic letters had been invented in the 14th century "by a Jew". Factually, not one single man invented these letters but the Nazis were pretty stupid, believed Bormann, and abolished fracture completely. The real reason was the expansion of the Nazi empire, and most people outside of Germany and the Nordic countries couldn't read those letters but the Antiqua font, of course. To sum it up, no, Wehrmacht rations had absolutely no fracture text on them at all. What you showed us in the video is completely fake, I'm sorry.
No cigarettes?