Moog Sound Studio 3 // Should You Buy It? My Honest Opinion.
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Giving my 3 month review of the @MoogSynthesizers Sound Studio 3 bundle. Which, includes the Mother-32, DFAM, and Subharmonicon. Who is it for? Should you buy it? Is it worth it? I'll address these types of questions in today's episode.
Here are the official Moog Music, Inc. store links for the products mentioned in the video:
Sound Studio 3 (Currently Out Of Stock Everywhere!)
Sound Studio 2 amzn.to/3MVz548
DFAM amzn.to/3N5CHRr
Mother-32 amzn.to/3PbMib1
Subharmonicon amzn.to/3wdUwH8
I recommend this one if you want to avoid the Subharmonicon
Sound Studio 1 amzn.to/3snd5Ye
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Chapters
0:00 Intro Demo
0:17 What Is It?
0:46 A Beginner's Perspective
1:16 Do They Go Well Together?
2:00 Songwriting With The SS3
2:27 Which One Is My Favorite? The Mother-32
3:24 Things That I Don't Like About The SS3
4:03 Which One Is My Least Favorite? The Subharmonicon
4:26 Negatives About The Mother-32
4:40 The Easiest One To Use? The DFAM
4:58 Is It Worth It For The Price?
5:31 Who Is It For?
6:02 Should You Buy It?
6:48 Song Demonstration - Singing & Playing The Moog Sound Studio 3
Tiger you have made a spectacular video on semi-modular synthesis, thank you!
I really appreciate that Chris!
Just got a second DFAM. I bought them all individually and pieced together the whole bunch. The Grandmother is my favorite, but the Matriarch is a beast.
I saw a vid yesterday. I think she said she had... I feel like she said 30, but it must have been 10. 10 Mothers.
Thanks for the review. I skipped the semi-modular route and went straight to Modular. Really like it and it has its place.
That's all that matters man! As long as you like it!
@@Tiger.Arcade Great track at the end. Really like the added vocals.
DFAM X2, M32 and MS20 does it for me. I also add the volca sample and volca drum for texture.
You're not the first to mention a second DFAM. I have never considered it honestly but may look into some videos and see what that can actually do for me. Thanks for watching.
Really good info TA. And your groove is awesome bro. Don't know if I'm going buy one or not.
Appreciate that Leon! It's not for everyone. Thanks for watching man.
I just bought this studio three set along with the mini brute 2s and I'm really excited to pair them all together.
I've never had experience with the subharmonicon or minibrute2s. I am a huge fan of semi modular synthesizers. I have played around with things like Korg ms20 make noise zero Coast Behringer Neutron mother 32 and dfam having them all at the same time.
I'm rebuilding my setup as this is my dream to get back into and I can't wait to get the dozen other semi modular synthesizers I would dream of having lol.
You definitely have a new happy subscriber :)
Great video. I especially like your jam at the end :)
Thanks man!
Great tune at the end!
Thanks Ben, I appreciate that! I've been considering putting it on streaming platforms if anyone is interested.
Nice video! I have the same rig, but I built it over the course of years. I bought the M32 right after it came out (2016?), then another M32 shortly after (later traded for a Make Noise 0-Coast), then the DFAM and finally the Subharmonicon. I probably liked the double M32 & DFAM rig the best, but the siren's song of wave folding sent me down the Make Noise rabbit hole. Like you, the M32 is a favorite, but this is largely due to the time I have put into it to learn most all of its tricks. The DFAM is fun and can sound huge, especially with 4-on-the-floor bass drum emulations. The Sub is good. It plays best by itself and then paired with the DFAM. However, the Sub and M32 can be challenging to keep in tune together (maybe due to a poorly executed factory calibration of my Sub). Oddly, this tuning issue subsides using my Matriarch as the master. Anyway, these are fun synths that can keep your interest for years and years.
Well said!
Well that track at the end was perfect for me, loved it 👍
Thanks David! I will be releasing that track on all streaming platforms within the next few week on an EP. Finally... haha
They sound so beautifully moog-y. It is so distinctly identifiable. Like Buchla sounds like Buchla. Moog sounds like Moog.
underrated comment
I only have the Subharmonicon but I use it with a lot of other gear. I usually either have the envelopes super short so I can use it as percussion or maxed out for ambient stuff, but now it's taking me down the Trautonium rabbit hole. I bought it because it would be the hardest of the three to replicate with other modules or synths.
I've never seen another synth like it. The recent firmware update was pretty awesome too making it more playable. Video coming out on that at the end of the month! Thanks for watching!
Awesome jam & graphics!
Thanks! 😊
Nicely done Arcade
Appreciate it man!
It is a pretty cool set up, and I really love the sub but not enough to buy it right now (maybe in the future). I'm more into experimental music and have quite the strange modular set up that is built for droning sound scapes. It works for my musical vision, but that said if I had the cash and more of a conventional musical vision I would definitely invest in this. Great video!
Thanks for watching man! There is a lot you can do here for sure. Have you tried the microcosm pedal? That immediately came to mind when you mentioned you like experimental.
@@Tiger.Arcade I have seen some demos of it and it seems super useful, I haven't gotten back into the pedal buy phase of my madness yet but when I get there that seems like an option. Thanks for the reminder about it.
@@Tiger.Arcade nice vid .. I’m taking the second hand route here, so far have the DFAM and M32, and with the Microcosm they are a cool team. Just waiting for the Zen Delay and I’ll be set. Well, set until my GAS-Demons get organised and force me to go fully modular 😬
Hey there not sure if youll see this but just curious if you can describe your setup or recommend some synths that are good for drone/ambient? Thanks!
I have the Oceans 11 - Digitech Obscura on the outpost of the Monologue XD .. nice to see them in other peoples setups as well
Subharmonicon is one of my favourite synths. It takes me a bit of tweaking, but I can happen upon hypnotic grooves that I wouldn’t have found on a conventional synth
It is a nice system, got a M32 & DFAM myself. Yet I'd buy the GM if that was out when starting out. Put some reverb, chorus and delay on and they sound like a mini System55 😉
Brilliant. Fun. Highly enjoyable. Impressive. Great stuff.
Nice vid again! Would you please make a vid about the back of the Sound Studio 3 when it comes to pedals? I So far I see you’ve plugged each one to a pedal before going through the Sound Studios’s mixer. Would be nice to see your work around how you plug pedals, keyboards etc. The lack of USB sucks indeed. Thank you 🙏
Hmmm, interesting question but a great observation, as you are correct. There are three pedals I am using and each one creates a different effect for each moog eurorack. If I can remember correctly, I have a spring reverb on the DFAM, a delay on the Mother-32 and an FX processor on the Subharmonicon. I will think more on a video and make myself a note. Thanks for watching and the suggestion.
Great jam! Think I’ll get the subharmonican instead of the behringer spice as it will go nicer with my dfam
Sweet sounds on the end demo. I've got some patching to do! lol
Thank you Scott, much appreciated.
Love the sun tattoo
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was very excited to get it.... but returned in a month. Having 3 together sounded like "together" they more useable then by their own. It kills me you can start DFAM from first step and lotsa CV needed to drive it. If it all, as you mentioned, had just single USB to drive it from DAW.
Though by now I missed it.... since they fixed the feature to transpose sequence from outside it starts making sense.
Somehow from 3 I like M32 ..... but I do have Subsequent 37CV ... with VST editor to automate and such.... so....
... I got Buchla instead.
A Buchla wow! That's awesome. Honestly, I get what you are saying. It is a difficult learning curve for those who are keyboard musicians or DAW users. It is almost limiting in a sense. I don't plan on keeping mine forever but at least for now. Cheers man!
Great video. I love the outro track. What’s the vocal sample and what’s playing it? Also, the psychedelic effect, how do you make that happen? Subscribed.
Thanks Steven! No vocal sample, I did that live while recording the SS3. Post production I added harmonies. The psychedelic effect was adding a kaleidoscope in Final Cut Pro.
This is a good musical tool for those willing to explore more with sound.
It takes you out of your comfort zone, at least it did for me and challenges you to new methods and styles. Very fun for creativity.
Im personally tempted by the DFAM Subharmonicon bundle, it seems more reasonable to me. Id rather get a 0-Coast than a Mother-32 anyway, and if I did that I could get a Strega and have a pretty powerful quartet
Cool psychedelic sounds and visuals at the end 👍😎
Thanks man! I'm considering putting that song up on streaming platforms if anyone is interested.
@@Tiger.Arcade yes of course! 😊
very cool track at the end (how did you create that kaleidoscope effect in the video?) i recently bought the studio 3 as well...love the mother 32, i think the subharm is great - keep thinking about getting a 2nd one, have looked for videos to see if anyone has used more than one but cant find any), i find the DFAM most frustrating and least enjoyable to use myself...probably need to spend more time with it
Definitely recommend trying out patches to help you learn the DFAM more if you haven't already. The more patches I try from Moog or others the better I understand it. The effect I did was using Final Cut Pro and their effects you just throw it over the video and edit it a bit. Thanks for watching!
Saludos maestro!
Que tal Cesar?! Hombre, no merezco ese titulo pero gracias y te mando saludos!
Cualquier persona que aprenda algo de él lo considero un maestro, hay muchos aquí en youtube he aprendido mucho de personas como tú, que se toman el esfuerzo de enseñarnos a los que vamos comenzando en este mundo de la síntesis, y tu esfuerzo es el doble por apoyar a los hispanohablantes!! Saludos tiger!! 🍻🍻🍻
Mother 32 sequencer is theoretically good but realistically, I can never remember how to use it more than the 😂basic functions
Haha I know what you mean!
HolaTiger, thanks for the explanation.I'm thinking of buying my first modular synthesizer and I have no experience. ¿Those voices in the song are introduced from the mac?
It’s my voice. The harmonies were mine too but added in post production. These synths do not sample audio. Gracias por mirar!
En este momento tengo dfam y proximamente mother 32 y por último subharmonico y como dises tu tengo pensado controlarlos con teclado, aparte tengo mi elektron cyrcles y minifreak con eso estoy mas que satisfecho abrazos Tiger árcade
I bought them individually used for half the price of the sound studio, and love it. I wouldn't spend 2k on it though probably.
No way, that's awesome! How much?
We think this setup can work great with SPII
Definitely works well with others :)
Add a second DFAM, you can expand timbres on rhythmic sounds with it.
I use the M32 clock and cv to drive a second modular/semi mono, that really thickens it up.
In all it’s a really good central setup to start with for those interested in semi mod gear.
I am gonna look into this. Thanks for the idea!
Kinda hoping Behringer releases the Edge…I have a DFAM and have wanted a second, but the Edge has all the expanded midi functionality. I have a Sound Studio 2 (DFAM/SubH) and a Crave so it’d be a nice 2 and 2 setup
@@MrGeoffashley
That’s the great thing about semi mod, it’s easy to sync with other mod kit.
I see that you have a Korg Minilogue XD on that table lol. I just took back my Minilogue XD and got and Moog grandmother. I have to admit that I am obsessed with the Moog but I absolutely miss the Minilogue and will be buying it again very soon
It’s hands down my most used synth. If I did ever sell it, it would be to upgrade to a prologue.
@@Tiger.Arcade yeah it’s a great board for sure. I only took it back because I felt that starting out in analog would be best on a Moog. I will buy the minilogue again here soon.
@@Tiger.Arcade Ok here’s a good question for you. I’m trying to decide between the Korg line up of digital FM boards. I’m going to pick up the minilogue xd module this time to work along side the Moog Grandmother. I wanted to accompany my sounds with some FM digital stuff and don’t like using in the box Logic just because of work flow challenges (in my opinion), I prefer hardware. The Opsix, the Modwave, or the Wavestate…..which would you choose?
@@Tiger.Arcade Ok so here’s a great question. Why the prologue? The voices? The low band compressor? The split keyboard? I’ve been sitting with my finger on the trigger for the Prologue 16 for days now and the one thing I’m having a hard time giving up is what you can easily do with the x y axis joystick. And I like having an onboard sequencer as well. Even my Moog Grandmother has a sequencer lol. I might just go back and get another minilogue but I really ant those 16 voices too.
@@ChrisTopheRaz Haha you basically said why. I'd really just like to get the upgrade since I love my minilogue xd so much. I'd love all those features and more like a full size keyboard too.
Entirely random question ⁉️ what oscilloscope is that it's so BEAUTIFUL
It's an old rare 1950s one. Never seen one like it myself. I talk about it and demo it in this other video here ua-cam.com/video/xoqf4ZMk4bs/v-deo.html
If I wanted to learn how to play one of those should I study guitar or piano ?
Great video! I have two racks. How are you recording?
In this video, the SS3 is plugged into the mixer that comes with the bundle. I then have the output audio feeding into my audio interface. Oh, and I am using effect pedals plugged into the SS3 mixer. My vocals are being recorded through my audio interface at the same time. Thanks for watching.
@@Tiger.Arcade thank you! that was a big help!
I wish moog would offer the 2or3 piece kit packs for us that had to put it together individually.
What would you want from it? The rack? They sell that online. The only main thing I think not sold is the mixer.
@@Tiger.Arcade mixer, game, rack, cable hanger..All the extras I guess lol.
@@MrDonc78 Ohhhh. Yeah, that would be a cool for them to sell a kit. The card game baffled me personally. I did a video on that. Wish it was available to everyone.
@@Tiger.Arcade I may call them about it but yeah, it'd definitely be nice. The game would be fun with my kids. The rest would just fulfill the nostalgic completist in me lol
@@MrDonc78 It's genuinely fun to just discover new sounds with the game. ua-cam.com/video/8nHEWPIPhtA/v-deo.html
whats the walk-around to sync into your DAW.. I'm on Ableton and I've read instructions online, it sounds straightforward.. What are the complications you're experiencing?
It is a lot better than what it used to be now that I have an audio interface with midi. I go about syncing multiple ways now. Either using my matriarch as the master clock or other device. Another method is midi into my subharmonicon or mother-32 and clock syncing the rest.
@@Tiger.Arcade appreciate that!
that song at the end was nice. Is that just the Sound Studio 3 dry?
I used guitar pedals 👍
@@Tiger.Arcade Sounds great. Pretty amazing, being able to get them playing like that without a daw. 👍
so i have behringers ish clone crave, ive really been hanging out for them to release there DFM clone edge, i think there might be a legal dispute going on with that cause all news on that seems to have dried up an as far as i could tell it was finished, im sure its not just a chip issue that has stopped that, my only reservation with the moog orig's is there price i just dont have that kind of money an even if i did im sure as hell not sure i could justify it right now, thinkin about diggin a big f'off hole in the garden in the hope some dinosaurs put some oil down there afew years back, harsh times we live in....
I hear you brother. That price tag is the biggest killer $$$$$$
I used to have 2, nice filters, I got them pre price rise here. 3 cost around 4500 which is a joke, they're not worth their asking price, I sold mine for what I paid when prices were going up.
Nice gear, just not affordable here.
I just checked pricing, 3200 here for that package, with mixer and cable it is really cheap now.
As separates, forget it.
I totally get that. They for sure do not depreciate in value too much though! Great fun just not affordable.
@@Tiger.Arcade they sound great, just not priced right especially when you have things like West Pest and East Beast emerging much much cheaper.
@@dankeplace That's totally fair man! I kind of want the west pest. Now Moog announced the MAVIS a supped up werkstatt.
@@Tiger.Arcade I will get the VolcaFM2 before the WP, not because it's cheaper, but because it is a nice DX7 in a small form factor.
WP will eventually enter the picture, just that both are better alternatives than some Moog gear here.
Mavis looks great too, I don't understand the Ikea flat pack though, is it just to save a few bucks or is it intended to engage the owner?
I’m wondering if after a year you’d have a different take. I got mine a couple years ago and I think I have a new appreciation for the Mother-32. Initially wasn’t a fan.
This is a diva and she needs a lot of love and time...smile..
Haha I love that
@@Tiger.Arcade I will buy this soon...
@@hansruedischnider8280 idk if the bundle is still sold? you may have to buy individually
@@Tiger.Arcade In Switzerland no problem...ca 2000 CHF...
Have they settled their strike?
Technically they are not on strike. Just forming a union to demand better conditions for working for Moog. They even want people to still purchase Moog products. You can follow the union online. They are called Moog Music Union. I know they post on Twitter.
@@Tiger.Arcade thank you. I personally wouldn't buy a product from a company that was currently engaged in a labor dispute. I'm glad to know that moog products are not off the table.
the sound of these machines has always sounded plinky and boopy to me, I get it- but for the price it seems fairly rare to see a demo that sounds massive or truly deep.
Well, I'll watch in case you have something useful or interesting to say...
But isn't the answer just "duh, yeah"? ;-)
Of course there are no USB outputs; These are ANALOG synths, not digital.
Analog synths can have usb as well friend. I own some ;)
No
the soundtrack of this ice cream track made me quit mid video
It didn’t make you want an ice cream?🍦
😂😂@@Tiger.Arcade
I think when you buy one of them, a reverb is a must have.
Also you should be aware of, that you can do a lot of unpleasant sounds with it, especially with the dfam and the subharmonicon, because their notes are not really quantized.
The special-thing about the dfam is his specific groove, when you make him a slave in your setup with the adv/clock input you will lose that, cause every step will be quantized to the clock pulse, so keep that in mind.
Iam a owner and I love to jam with my mother and dfam, their amazing and push me to think outside the box😊
Anyway, keep up the good work❤