It's been over a week since I applied that insecticide. I watered it so much and absolutely none of it drained through the holes. All that water stayed in the soil. And you can imagine my beloved avocado tree was not very happy about that... This root rot problem has progressed so much that the top quarter of inch of the stem has turned BLACK! I'm not entirely sure if I'll be able to save it. The top and active buds are completely dead. They've all died. The middle and bottom buds seem alive, but dormant. One of the dead buds even got INTO the TRUNK. I decided to water my mango, after being in bone dry soil for a week straight. The soil had no moisture in it. I decided to put the mango under the sink to water it deeply. Guess what happened after that... yes, somehow it also got ROOT ROT. How, how, hoooow, the soil was 0/10 moist before watering, I rarely water my mango. My mango is in a tiny pot. IT gets sun and light through the window. I'm using an AC, not a radiator. And after all that, it still got root rot. And my other avocados are browning, apart from one excellent one. This is outrageous. And the soil smells weird and bitter. What is going on. And I don't get why the browning stops a few days after watering, but comes back when the trees are thirsty, even though the soil is still pretty moist. I don't think I'll have to worry about 'em being root bound. I think the problem is the soil. It smells and most importantly, it retains way too much MOISTURE.
Hope the two struggling trees recover. That one tree you said was root bound, I don't know if it'll make it. Try to nourish it back to health. And plant it again. Also try to reuse the pots, they are indeed expensive. I wish my pots had drainage holes that big. Whenever I place some thirsty avocadoes under the sink, the water hardly comes out from the bottom.
I see PSM found a good home :) I hope it grow fast. I have that issue with some trees also, where they just don't grow, I think taking it out and nursing it back in a pot is a good idea, I nurse back a few plants already, now I just need a place to grow them lol
yep, your gift is safely in the ground and will soon be giving my bedroom some shade and reducing my a/c bill too! The root bound tree is still struggling, we'll see what happens.
Thank you for the visual I thought the limestone here was just the builders that did that to my yard. I need to do some exploratory digging now. What do you recommend for an all purpose fruit tree fertilizer? Now concerned my root bound Barbados won’t make it. It was really bad. Agreed everything has gotten so expensive since C-19. Great video TY!
@@SleepyLizard Oh ok, I see. thank you so much. I live in Houston Texas zone 9B and im planning on buying some mango and other tropical fruit and I want to know the best spot, dont worry I have these special frost blanket that keep my plants +10 degrees from the outside, and i’ve only ever seen it go down to around 20 degrees here and I heard mangos can handle frost just for an hour, so ill probably design a little 200 watt heater i can place inside the heat tent (is what im calling it).
@@SleepyLizard I appreciate the advice! I got into growing bananas this past year. Since I’ve been successful growing them outside in the ground, I figured why not try some more tropical fruits! Haha.
I have a Fantastic Avocado tree here in Texas Zone 8a, and it took 18 degrees F while 11 degrees outside last month in an unheated small greenhouse and the tree looks like is summer, green leaves and about to flower. Did not get any cold damage! Now to me that is a champ. My Oro negro did not make it in the same greenhouse and cold, but it has been recycled in my compost pile!
Forgive me if the questions I’m about to ask are dumb Tommy but can’t you dig out a few feet more of that lime stone and a 50-100litres of soil to give anything you put in there a deeper base? Or is that too expensive and time consuming? Does the lime rock affect the ph of your soil ? I used to add dolomite lime to my soil when I was gardening to lower acidity when mixing in amendments like blood and bone meal and gauno etc. Is that the same type of lime? Sorry for asking all the questions. I’m just trying to understand what you’re working with and how your dealing with it. As to the lack of pots why not try “poli-pots” It’s just pots made from Thick recyclable plastic used in plastic shopping bags. They come in all sizes. You just cut them off from around the root ball when up potting or going in the ground and add the remains of the poli-pot to your recycling. They are particularly good for large batches of seedlings. I used to use them myself. They’re only pennies each depending on the size of course and very convenient to use. And of course they’re much cheaper than solid pots
I don't mind the questions, ask away. there's lot's of extra stuff we can do but we've already hit the optimal point of effort vs return which is key to success in any business but especially farming. The law of diminishing marginal returns is very important to making a profit. I don't have to monitor PH so I don't. I only plant what thrives in this region. In fact when we moved in I told my wife of the plants that's here whatever dies from lack of care is gonna die because I'm not spending 8 hours a day fighting Mother Nature. Whatever thrives is meant to thrive here and it'll stay. if something failed I'm not gonna waste my time trying to make it live when there's other stuff that want's to thrive here. as for Poly pots I prefer to stick with the industry standard. We all use the same pots, same sizes, standards etc. Farming is different that backyard growing in that you are constantly balancing and optimizing the use of limited resources. a backyard grower is free to spend his time tending to his hobby and striving for perfection. As a businessman I need to decide how to use that next hour, where to spend that next dollar etc to get the maximum return for my farm. why spend an hour making one tree give me 2% more output when I can spend the hour clearing land and plant 10 trees and get a much higher return...that sort of thing.
@@SleepyLizard That makes sense. The environment you guys have gives you the ability to grow so many different things. It makes sense to take advantage of that. I’m looking forward to your mango season. It was actually looking up mango growing that brought me to your channel.
yes. our trees here don't grow as deep a root system. Although a real hurricane is gonna do whatever it wants. 😝. That storm had winds blowing from the east for 16 damn hours. it was very slow moving. then as it got further north we started getting winds from the south and just like a loose tooth when you shake it in the other direction they broke loose and tipped over.
@@SleepyLizard I know what you're saying. I lost 2 large black sapotes to it (one 35 ft tall). The wind just kept rocking them back and forth and even with a great root system that sand turns into quicksand when that happens and the roots can't hold on anymore. That was a precursor to my trees now being shorter than 20 feet tall. Lessons learned.
@@MasterKenfucius yep. with late season avocados I can't prune the trees in anticipation of a storm or I lose my whole crop but I keep them to 16-22 foot height...helps a lot
Is that your wife's brother? I thought you guys had white sand, I had no clue you had rock a few inches down, that really sucks, thanks for the lesson.
I see how it is. Armando does all the hard work. Jorge gets all the ladies.
Armando worked me to the bone that day...I could not keep up.
@@SleepyLizard poor Armando 😢
Thank you for teaching us something new everyday brother 🙏🙏🙏
you are welcome.
Thanks for the knowledge Tom, not just the Pim Sen Mun either 😉.
You are welcome
Armando got the dog in him💪
he's a beast.
3:54. I love the roots comparison between avocado in soil vs avocado in pot.
both those trees are starting to recover in my nursery
It's been over a week since I applied that insecticide. I watered it so much and absolutely none of it drained through the holes. All that water stayed in the soil. And you can imagine my beloved avocado tree was not very happy about that...
This root rot problem has progressed so much that the top quarter of inch of the stem has turned BLACK! I'm not entirely sure if I'll be able to save it. The top and active buds are completely dead. They've all died. The middle and bottom buds seem alive, but dormant. One of the dead buds even got INTO the TRUNK.
I decided to water my mango, after being in bone dry soil for a week straight. The soil had no moisture in it. I decided to put the mango under the sink to water it deeply. Guess what happened after that... yes, somehow it also got ROOT ROT. How, how, hoooow, the soil was 0/10 moist before watering, I rarely water my mango. My mango is in a tiny pot. IT gets sun and light through the window. I'm using an AC, not a radiator. And after all that, it still got root rot. And my other avocados are browning, apart from one excellent one. This is outrageous. And the soil smells weird and bitter.
What is going on. And I don't get why the browning stops a few days after watering, but comes back when the trees are thirsty, even though the soil is still pretty moist. I don't think I'll have to worry about 'em being root bound.
I think the problem is the soil. It smells and most importantly, it retains way too much MOISTURE.
a mystery
It is incredible that you are able to grow a thriving orchard in that rock!
even the row crops are grown in the rock down here. the break it up and make rows of strawberries, corn, beans, okra, squash.
Hope the two struggling trees recover. That one tree you said was root bound, I don't know if it'll make it. Try to nourish it back to health. And plant it again. Also try to reuse the pots, they are indeed expensive. I wish my pots had drainage holes that big. Whenever I place some thirsty avocadoes under the sink, the water hardly comes out from the bottom.
I tend to reuse everything anyhow but yeah right now it's good to keep the pots. I don't know if the tree will survive but we'll see.
You two guys are like Batman and Robin, the Dynamic Duo of Guacamole City!
made a batch of guac today. it was delicious
I see PSM found a good home :) I hope it grow fast. I have that issue with some trees also, where they just don't grow, I think taking it out and nursing it back in a pot is a good idea, I nurse back a few plants already, now I just need a place to grow them lol
yep, your gift is safely in the ground and will soon be giving my bedroom some shade and reducing my a/c bill too! The root bound tree is still struggling, we'll see what happens.
I do have some relatives to help me if I plant my trees too deep, but they aren't as strong as Armando
Tom only wears that sweaty t-shirt to turn The Ladies on. Dripping Machismo!
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Two funny guys work well together, this is a match. 😂Bill
that was one of them days where you make sure everything you need to do is done then take off your boots and shut down completely. 🥵
Poor Armando...😢 Tom is working him soooo hard.
you saw who was trying to catch his breath in that vid 🤣
@@SleepyLizard hahaha
Bobcat with 36" auger bit
@@greatergood3706 Armondo is more compact. 😁
what to do if I plant too deep
do you have anybody to help you dig it out and replant it shallower? Maybe some cousins or family members?
It's a must to keep the tree from getting too root-bound
Thank you for the visual I thought the limestone here was just the builders that did that to my yard. I need to do some exploratory digging now. What do you recommend for an all purpose fruit tree fertilizer? Now concerned my root bound Barbados won’t make it. It was really bad. Agreed everything has gotten so expensive since C-19. Great video TY!
Armando good job on the berm I believe it is called around the base of that tree.
I would use 8-3-9 fertilizer if you don't have something specific
Is Armando another one of the kids from Tommy's football tem? Child labor is illegal!
I wish our players had his work ethic 😁
where do you get those big avocado trees from and your mangoes too. please
The big ones that I planted in this video I got at Lara Farms
@@SleepyLizard thank you so much, is this where you get all your plants from or is this some of them?
@@Abe8816 anytime I wanna grow something new I go to Lara. For trees I already have I use my own.
@@SleepyLizard Oh ok, I see. thank you so much. I live in Houston Texas zone 9B and im planning on buying some mango and other tropical fruit and I want to know the best spot, dont worry I have these special frost blanket that keep my plants +10 degrees from the outside, and i’ve only ever seen it go down to around 20 degrees here and I heard mangos can handle frost just for an hour, so ill probably design a little 200 watt heater i can place inside the heat tent (is what im calling it).
Do you recommend any mango or avocado tree varieties that I could grow here in Gainesville? Zone 9a up here compared to y’all’s 10b.
mango might be difficult but the Oro Negro avocado would be ideal
@@SleepyLizard I appreciate the advice! I got into growing bananas this past year. Since I’ve been successful growing them outside in the ground, I figured why not try some more tropical fruits! Haha.
@@jacobwhite953 yes and keep trying and make mistakes. too many not doing anything because they're afraid they aint gonna be perfect.
I have a Fantastic Avocado tree here in Texas Zone 8a, and it took 18 degrees F while 11 degrees outside last month in an unheated small greenhouse and the tree looks like is summer, green leaves and about to flower. Did not get any cold damage! Now to me that is a champ. My Oro negro did not make it in the same greenhouse and cold, but it has been recycled in my compost pile!
@@JoseRuiz-vm8hr awesome! I was looking at Brogdon as well. I just have to make sure I have two different types so I can get some decent pollination.
The awkward side eye 👀 look Armando is giving.. 😅
we had a lot of fun making this vid
Forgive me if the questions I’m about to ask are dumb Tommy but can’t you dig out a few feet more of that lime stone and a 50-100litres of soil to give anything you put in there a deeper base? Or is that too expensive and time consuming?
Does the lime rock affect the ph of your soil ? I used to add dolomite lime to my soil when I was gardening to lower acidity when mixing in amendments like blood and bone meal and gauno etc. Is that the same type of lime? Sorry for asking all the questions. I’m just trying to understand what you’re working with and how your dealing with it.
As to the lack of pots why not try “poli-pots”
It’s just pots made from Thick recyclable plastic used in plastic shopping bags. They come in all sizes. You just cut them off from around the root ball when up potting or going in the ground and add the remains of the poli-pot to your recycling. They are particularly good for large batches of seedlings. I used to use them myself. They’re only pennies each depending on the size of course and very convenient to use. And of course they’re much cheaper than solid pots
I don't mind the questions, ask away.
there's lot's of extra stuff we can do but we've already hit the optimal point of effort vs return which is key to success in any business but especially farming. The law of diminishing marginal returns is very important to making a profit.
I don't have to monitor PH so I don't. I only plant what thrives in this region. In fact when we moved in I told my wife of the plants that's here whatever dies from lack of care is gonna die because I'm not spending 8 hours a day fighting Mother Nature. Whatever thrives is meant to thrive here and it'll stay. if something failed I'm not gonna waste my time trying to make it live when there's other stuff that want's to thrive here.
as for Poly pots I prefer to stick with the industry standard. We all use the same pots, same sizes, standards etc.
Farming is different that backyard growing in that you are constantly balancing and optimizing the use of limited resources. a backyard grower is free to spend his time tending to his hobby and striving for perfection. As a businessman I need to decide how to use that next hour, where to spend that next dollar etc to get the maximum return for my farm. why spend an hour making one tree give me 2% more output when I can spend the hour clearing land and plant 10 trees and get a much higher return...that sort of thing.
@@SleepyLizard
That makes sense. The environment you guys have gives you the ability to grow so many different things. It makes sense to take advantage of that.
I’m looking forward to your mango season. It was actually looking up mango growing that brought me to your channel.
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I know that guy, I use to work with him at Grove services
how you doing?
@@SleepyLizard I'm there, just looking for a job right now
@@victorsaucedo8397 ah ok good luck on the hunt
Bro you can plant some Indian trees like jamun, lychee, few Indian mango variety
I love lychee
Is that why the last hurricane hurt you so bad? Because the trees can't establish deep roots with all that limestone under the organic layer?
yes. our trees here don't grow as deep a root system. Although a real hurricane is gonna do whatever it wants. 😝. That storm had winds blowing from the east for 16 damn hours. it was very slow moving. then as it got further north we started getting winds from the south and just like a loose tooth when you shake it in the other direction they broke loose and tipped over.
@@SleepyLizard I know what you're saying. I lost 2 large black sapotes to it (one 35 ft tall). The wind just kept rocking them back and forth and even with a great root system that sand turns into quicksand when that happens and the roots can't hold on anymore. That was a precursor to my trees now being shorter than 20 feet tall. Lessons learned.
@@MasterKenfucius yep. with late season avocados I can't prune the trees in anticipation of a storm or I lose my whole crop but I keep them to 16-22 foot height...helps a lot
@@SleepyLizard Definitely! Keep that torque as low as you can.
One of these guys is properly dressed for working in the sun.
And his name is Armando.
Would you believe I also ate some sugar and drank tap water that day? 😱
I thought avocado trees did better when planted on a mound
depends where you are. this is how we plant them in my environment.
Chipping hammer
we got it handled
Is that your wife's brother? I thought you guys had white sand, I had no clue you had rock a few inches down, that really sucks, thanks for the lesson.
No, my wife's brother lives over in Spain. We have the rock down here in the Redlands. other parts of South Florida are sand.