I don't have the knowledge to evaluate the accuracy of those techniques but I definitely appreciate the skill of this teacher to show us what to do on video.
It's all about pressure training as you progress. The good part at least for me was as the pressure and resistance increased, the number of useful techniques decreased which in turn made it easier to think and react under pressure.
Your only real hope is if you are stronger and faster than the person wielding the blade or can get your hands on a distance creating weapon or if you can run like the wind.
my only critique is that you are way bigger and stronger than your opponent , thus it looks easier than it might be -- but i do agree your aggressive counter entry method is the only way if you cant egress tout suite
Great technique sir and Prof Kevin Lee oss I train and teach martial arts and I'm in Cali Bay area looking for a good Kali/Escrima school/teacher. I've learned a few techniques but I seek to learn the art of Escrima/Kali etc. Great technique and video oss
A guy I went to high school with works security at a bar in my home town. A guy followed him home one night and started going at him. He got stabbed several times but managed to knock the guy out with some part off his lawnmower.
@@Red_emp_tion The kid I went to school with is a big guy all I remember is that he told me the guy was mad at him and followed him home from the bar. The guy had a small pocket knife and got him several times my guess is that he was damn lucky it wasn't a bigger knife. He picked up some part from the mower and knocked the guy out and he was arrested. Another friend of a friend was at a bar and got into it with a guy. They both left at different times and the guy came back looking for him. The guy was looking for pay back and attacked the wrong guy from behind and stabbed him in the face not realizing it was the wrong person. I was told he lost an eye.
there are legit techniques and you have to train tons to make it work in real life. i've learned a lot. but as a 135 pound person who can bench press 120 pounds, whenever my partner is 190 pounds or more who can bench at least 160 pounds, i lose every time. i can catch the initial attack yes, but then it becomes a grip battle, which i eventually lose if we keep fighting. groin strikes, headbutts might work, but obviously i've never tried them for real with my partners. it's a hypothetical. i'm also 5 feet 6 inches, when training with a partner who is 6 feet or over, good luck getting the leverage in a standing position. now imagine a 100 pound woman learning knife defense. it really seems like a fantasy. best they can do is stop the initial blow, not die immediately, somehow run away within the first 5 seconds.
Kali Center once talked about how even if you know how to fight vs a knife (especially if you're unarmed yourself), your best bet is to get some distance and *not* take the fight. Knifes are always dangerous, even if you are far better at fighting than your opponent.
Yeah, just as the other posters above have said, PLUS don't forget tailoring your strategy to your own particular situation. Every 'poison' has its antidote, and being smaller and weaker isn't necessarily a disadvantage. LaoTzu mentions in TaoTeChing, for example, how snakes and scorpions, and birds of prey and other beasts don't harm newborn babies (the famous thing of how wolves can even care for human babies), and so your smaller 'child like' aspect can become a highly manipulative 'tool' in itself - to the point your attacker can feel like they are about to kill an innocent newborn baby - that is, if you can 'master' that aspect of yourself in the 'Zen' way (see Thich Nhat Hanh's teachings on 'inner child', for example). A bigger guy defending against a smaller, weaker yet highly skilled knife attacker can't play this card as easily as you, so you gotta use that to your advantage - train for that for a real street scenario. Play weak, innocent, and YIELD until you have lured your opponent into a very vulnerable place before you do your blitz attack on them. That's really your only hope. It sounds weird, probably, but knife attacks are weird in themselves. Because, as soon as someone draws a knife on you with lethal intent and you are trapped, the situation is already way beyond a normal 'fight'. 1) there is lethal intent, 2) you are lacking a weapon, 3) there's no civil honour in place (that would normally prevent a fighter from using dirty tactics like kicking to groin, for example - a knife itself is VERY 'dirty' and you've gotta get equally sly in your response). As he says in the video, when the knife is out, it's not a skill-based MA situation - it's like they've pulled out their dick - it's that crazy and f'd up. It's something way beyond the normal civil wold, and so your approach needs to be equally 'out of the box' - beyond competitive MMA sparring, or even Street Fighter computer game muscly guys facing off for the honour of their Dojo, or whatever. It's about your very on-going existence, and there's no one size fits all for that level of complexity. It's about yin and Yang and spirituality when a knife is drawn - because all it takes is that hammering thrust to your belly and then you're bleeding to death. It's beyond any dojo - unless that dojo is a Zen temple 😉, perhaps...
I've done some training where we would get the hard plastic knives but ink on them and wear shirts and pants were were cool with messing up and do knife sparing, sometimes on the ground. (Probably the most challenging sparing I've had) always got cut but thats how it would be in real life. No matter how well u are trained in a knife fight especially on the ground u gonna get cut. With Guru Joe (one of Dan's students) we sometimes did the first knife drill shown here but with being chased but with a tazer knife.
Yep. Speak truth. You are basically trying to trade less harmful cuts that are more easily treated for more serious injuries.It's much better to have a few shallow cuts on your arms than your face or being stabbed anywhere.
Your teaching me how to get myself killed on third one. If they are holding the knife and not using it give them what they desire. This might work if they look away, but if they do that eye gouge run or just run?
Big difference between those who masters Kali and those wannabe. This video shows a person who masters kali and develop his own techniques, that's the way of kali. There are video out there that debunks kali and think they did master it. We know our history of Kali and practice in the fast, and it was just over shadowed by gun powder. If only blade for blade our history might be different.
as much as I love this video being a former marine I feel compelled to point out tht jus turning your back n running is never a good option, for so many reasons... probably most importantly these days 98 or 99 percent of the population here in America moves slower than molasses in January, literally a bona fide super majority is morbidly obese, running jus isn't an option for most ppl...
When a stronger armed person is trying to hurt a weaker unarmed person, the best chance for survival is to run. There are countless videos here in UA-cam that show people getting stabbed and dying who could have runaway.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st even with the gun, the smart person will get/maintain distance from the threat. Creating distance gives you more time to draw your weapon, and prevent yourself getting stabbed even tho ya shot the guy. (Police do this) And if it isn't legal to carry? Step 1 is still the same! Keep/creat distance. Cheetahs are faster than there prey. But even animals ain't dumb enough to just stand there and get ripped apart. So they run. Simple.
I have been attacked by a person with a knife , disarmed them and taken the knife from them in a real life situation , I didnt get cut 1st thing I did was grab something to use as a shield , what I used was a jacket that was laying there and I wrapped it up on on my stronger arm so that I could still use my hand, I'm left handed Next thing I did was put my arms out as far as possible from my body while being in a low position braced down I then drew in a attack by faking a attack and then once I could , I grabbed their knife hand , twisted my body into theirs so it's almost like they were now standing behind me and I started biting their hand , I took a punch to the head but thats fine it wasn't that great After that I attacked the person like a wild animal with elbows , never allowing them to get away from me , I stuck on to them and I put them in the hospital Another time a guy pulled a knife on me and I almost cut his arm off with a 32 inch wakizashi that was really close by because after that I never was in a group of people without my own weapon close by , I hacked at his ark twice saying , drop the knife , in a insane voice
Get a chair a milk crate a mop stick. You don't want to get stab or get slash. An army man in Australia knows what to do he grab a chair and the stabber can do as much as he wants to stab to the chair and another person took a milk crate to pin the guy down until the police comes
Ok. So we're in an elevator. Where am I getting either the chair or the milk crate? I 100% believe in using environmental weapons as a barrier/distance-keeper/attack option against a knife bandit, but they are not always available.
Him included... try that and you will get stabbed. Even a UFC champ will tell you.... run. (or have a fire arm) etc... but these so called techniques will get you hurt, badly or worse.
So on that fateful day you just happened to be recovering from a sprained ankle and don't have a firearm (for whatever reason). The nature of knife-defense comes with the inherent threat of harm and the high odds of getting cut...still have to train for it - the eventual disarm may come after enduring 7 or 8 superficial lacerations and 1 or 2 non-organ hitting stabs, BUT just before an arterial cut. Despite your wounds, would the knife-defense training be worth it then?
I have trained 10 years in eskrima. Obviously I would call the drills you show in the beginning what it is Modern Aris. This is not truly reflective of FMA since FMA is built for the street.
Some may work. Obviously, the host doesn't know what counter arcing means where he is very prone to knife injuries. Majority will lead to progressive slash or cutting injuries that eventually result to more imminent openings and death.
I’ve done Kali and Silat for years. The only thing that is 100% is if you’re going to get in a knife 🔪 fight you will get cut. It’s extremely rare to be unscathed.
@@kevintrumpf4156 all I am going to say to that is there are people who I spar with who if I got in a real fight even if I had a knife I would have absolutely no chance at all against. If I tried to attack these people with a knife they would be in absolutely no danger at all. And I'm not talking about pro fighters here just people who are quite a bit better than me. If a knife is not enough to enable me to even scratch some people let alone kill them why would a 10 year old with nothing more than one week training. have any meaningful chance.
At the beginning you told the audience that you would run. In the middle of your vid you say: "it would work but it take practice." Let me tell you none of this technics work, nome. Bc one main reason: YOU NEVER KNOW! Stop teaching this kind of stuff
Wow guys, if you get with a real trained knife fighter, your gonna get cut up. I see too much people playing around with knives and not really understanding how dangerous it can be. A professional in the streets will make you bleed out very quickly, but what’s the chance of running into that person, pretty slim I hope. I’ve got 68 years of martial arts, International Bodyguard, military and Police training, started with Wing Chun at age six in Hong Kong, lots and lots of street fighting in Hong Kong. Knives are dangerous, keep training, study some Filipino techniques, good luck to you.
The only good part of this video is when he said real knife defense is running away. I'm sorry but you're not going to succeed unarmed against an opponent with a knife unless you get lucky, I don't care how much you practice with a compliant partner who is not really trying to hurt you.
Your wrong. I know many people who could easily succeed against me if I tried to attack them with a knife. Frankly if I was ever attacked by an unarmed person who I did not know and I had a knife I would throw the knife away because I know that if that person has even minimal experience of being violent there is a 100% certainly that he will make me drop the knife, have his way with me and then walk away unharmed!
Extremely difficult, yes; impossible, no. Probability of being cut/stabbed - almost certain...but this doesn't mean necessarily being killed or even catastrophically injured.
I don't have the knowledge to evaluate the accuracy of those techniques but I definitely appreciate the skill of this teacher to show us what to do on video.
EXCELLENT teaching!!! It's ALWAYS important to teach from a "real world" point of view
It's all about pressure training as you progress. The good part at least for me was as the pressure and resistance increased, the number of useful techniques decreased which in turn made it easier to think and react under pressure.
We need more knife drills. Good video, keep em coming.
Great job, Kevin! Thank you for sharing, my friend!!!!
Love your answer, run if you can, it is a time and place for everything
the best explaination on youtube 👍🏻
Pre emptive striking is the only way. Hit hard, hit fast. It’s kill or be killed. No mercy.
Your only real hope is if you are stronger and faster than the person wielding the blade or can get your hands on a distance creating weapon or if you can run like the wind.
People tend to be afraid and is understandable but!! Always try to go in not out. Even in fighting if you go in you will avoid a full force punch etc.
love your r/w 'oops' perspective - more of these please
my only critique is that you are way bigger and stronger than your opponent , thus it looks easier than it might be -- but i do agree your aggressive counter entry method is the only way if you cant egress tout suite
It's always good to train for real life encounters. Also practice random attack situations. Your attacker may not always give you warnings of attack
Great technique sir and Prof Kevin Lee oss I train and teach martial arts and I'm in Cali Bay area looking for a good Kali/Escrima school/teacher. I've learned a few techniques but I seek to learn the art of Escrima/Kali etc. Great technique and video oss
Please go check out Inosanto Academy. 🙏🏼
Excellent info!
I survived a knife attack. Didn't see it coming, it happened fast and brutal, and I'm lucky to survive. Knives scare me. Left me with some good scars.
A guy I went to high school with works security at a bar in my home town. A guy followed him home one night and started going at him. He got stabbed several times but managed to knock the guy out with some part off his lawnmower.
@@wolf3001 What the hecckk? I wanna know what the guy was thinking when he woke up? Or did he DIE by the lawnmower? 😅
@@Red_emp_tion The kid I went to school with is a big guy all I remember is that he told me the guy was mad at him and followed him home from the bar. The guy had a small pocket knife and got him several times my guess is that he was damn lucky it wasn't a bigger knife. He picked up some part from the mower and knocked the guy out and he was arrested. Another friend of a friend was at a bar and got into it with a guy. They both left at different times and the guy came back looking for him. The guy was looking for pay back and attacked the wrong guy from behind and stabbed him in the face not realizing it was the wrong person. I was told he lost an eye.
@@wolf3001 gotcha.. wow crazy story. Thanks!
The low thrust drill, if there is a wall, you can body check them in to it too
Great stuff! Guro Dan told me his first knife fight (he's been in 3) he was unarmed because he had a Baseball Glove and used that to defend himself :)
Thats a nice variation on the defense vs the thrust to the stomach. Clear demo and explanation too.
Another great lesson 🔥🙌🙏, thanks again
This is some good stuff...good material
That's how I learned it too. Cheers.
I liked the "knee him in the groin, knee him in the groin" part.
Run... best advice.
there are legit techniques and you have to train tons to make it work in real life. i've learned a lot. but as a 135 pound person who can bench press 120 pounds, whenever my partner is 190 pounds or more who can bench at least 160 pounds, i lose every time. i can catch the initial attack yes, but then it becomes a grip battle, which i eventually lose if we keep fighting. groin strikes, headbutts might work, but obviously i've never tried them for real with my partners. it's a hypothetical. i'm also 5 feet 6 inches, when training with a partner who is 6 feet or over, good luck getting the leverage in a standing position. now imagine a 100 pound woman learning knife defense. it really seems like a fantasy. best they can do is stop the initial blow, not die immediately, somehow run away within the first 5 seconds.
Kali Center once talked about how even if you know how to fight vs a knife (especially if you're unarmed yourself), your best bet is to get some distance and *not* take the fight.
Knifes are always dangerous, even if you are far better at fighting than your opponent.
Yeah, just as the other posters above have said, PLUS don't forget tailoring your strategy to your own particular situation. Every 'poison' has its antidote, and being smaller and weaker isn't necessarily a disadvantage.
LaoTzu mentions in TaoTeChing, for example, how snakes and scorpions, and birds of prey and other beasts don't harm newborn babies (the famous thing of how wolves can even care for human babies), and so your smaller 'child like' aspect can become a highly manipulative 'tool' in itself - to the point your attacker can feel like they are about to kill an innocent newborn baby - that is, if you can 'master' that aspect of yourself in the 'Zen' way (see Thich Nhat Hanh's teachings on 'inner child', for example). A bigger guy defending against a smaller, weaker yet highly skilled knife attacker can't play this card as easily as you, so you gotta use that to your advantage - train for that for a real street scenario. Play weak, innocent, and YIELD until you have lured your opponent into a very vulnerable place before you do your blitz attack on them. That's really your only hope.
It sounds weird, probably, but knife attacks are weird in themselves. Because, as soon as someone draws a knife on you with lethal intent and you are trapped, the situation is already way beyond a normal 'fight'. 1) there is lethal intent, 2) you are lacking a weapon, 3) there's no civil honour in place (that would normally prevent a fighter from using dirty tactics like kicking to groin, for example - a knife itself is VERY 'dirty' and you've gotta get equally sly in your response).
As he says in the video, when the knife is out, it's not a skill-based MA situation - it's like they've pulled out their dick - it's that crazy and f'd up. It's something way beyond the normal civil wold, and so your approach needs to be equally 'out of the box' - beyond competitive MMA sparring, or even Street Fighter computer game muscly guys facing off for the honour of their Dojo, or whatever.
It's about your very on-going existence, and there's no one size fits all for that level of complexity. It's about yin and Yang and spirituality when a knife is drawn - because all it takes is that hammering thrust to your belly and then you're bleeding to death. It's beyond any dojo - unless that dojo is a Zen temple 😉, perhaps...
That made complete sense. I can believe in that type of teaching. Great video.
I've done some training where we would get the hard plastic knives but ink on them and wear shirts and pants were were cool with messing up and do knife sparing, sometimes on the ground. (Probably the most challenging sparing I've had) always got cut but thats how it would be in real life. No matter how well u are trained in a knife fight especially on the ground u gonna get cut. With Guru Joe (one of Dan's students) we sometimes did the first knife drill shown here but with being chased but with a tazer knife.
Yep. Speak truth. You are basically trying to trade less harmful cuts that are more easily treated for more serious injuries.It's much better to have a few shallow cuts on your arms than your face or being stabbed anywhere.
Most of the successful knife defense ive heard of has involved hitting the knife guy in the face or stomach very hard and very suddenly.
Your teaching me how to get myself killed on third one. If they are holding the knife and not using it give them what they desire. This might work if they look away, but if they do that eye gouge run or just run?
Outstanding instruction! But next time take it easy on Kevin Lee he is a small dude! 😆
Thank you
Big difference between those who masters Kali and those wannabe. This video shows a person who masters kali and develop his own techniques, that's the way of kali. There are video out there that debunks kali and think they did master it. We know our history of Kali and practice in the fast, and it was just over shadowed by gun powder. If only blade for blade our history might be different.
as much as I love this video being a former marine I feel compelled to point out tht jus turning your back n running is never a good option, for so many reasons... probably most importantly these days 98 or 99 percent of the population here in America moves slower than molasses in January, literally a bona fide super majority is morbidly obese, running jus isn't an option for most ppl...
When a stronger armed person is trying to hurt a weaker unarmed person,
the best chance for survival is to run.
There are countless videos here in UA-cam that show people getting stabbed and dying who could have runaway.
Huh, i suppose that's a good point, most of the time in the forums we always use ourselves as an example, which is not like the average population😅
@@beowulf_of_wall_st even with the gun, the smart person will get/maintain distance from the threat.
Creating distance gives you more time to draw your weapon, and prevent yourself getting stabbed even tho ya shot the guy. (Police do this)
And if it isn't legal to carry?
Step 1 is still the same!
Keep/creat distance.
Cheetahs are faster than there prey.
But even animals ain't dumb enough to just stand there and get ripped apart.
So they run.
Simple.
DUH. IF YOU CAN TAKE OFF. If not then don't.
I've found much of the same stuff to be true via testing. You're on the right track! Cheers!
I have been attacked by a person with a knife , disarmed them and taken the knife from them in a real life situation , I didnt get cut
1st thing I did was grab something to use as a shield , what I used was a jacket that was laying there and I wrapped it up on on my stronger arm so that I could still use my hand, I'm left handed
Next thing I did was put my arms out as far as possible from my body while being in a low position braced down
I then drew in a attack by faking a attack and then once I could , I grabbed their knife hand , twisted my body into theirs so it's almost like they were now standing behind me and I started biting their hand , I took a punch to the head but thats fine it wasn't that great
After that I attacked the person like a wild animal with elbows , never allowing them to get away from me , I stuck on to them and I put them in the hospital
Another time a guy pulled a knife on me and I almost cut his arm off with a 32 inch wakizashi that was really close by because after that I never was in a group of people without my own weapon close by , I hacked at his ark twice saying , drop the knife , in a insane voice
I like that style
if the opponent is bigger, and in these retentions what happens with the free hand of the attacker
Right that is very smart
Kali is a Philippines martial arts right? God bless all
Get a chair a milk crate a mop stick. You don't want to get stab or get slash. An army man in Australia knows what to do he grab a chair and the stabber can do as much as he wants to stab to the chair and another person took a milk crate to pin the guy down until the police comes
Ok. So we're in an elevator.
Where am I getting either the chair or the milk crate?
I 100% believe in using environmental weapons as a barrier/distance-keeper/attack option against a knife bandit, but they are not always available.
a lot of similarity with principles of Aikido. Including the main principle that is maintaining freedom of movement.
I’m pretty sure it starts by putting distance between yourself and the attacker.
Great
If you're going to use your belt, make sure your pants fit without the belt first. Some of us will have to learn the hard way.
Him included... try that and you will get stabbed. Even a UFC champ will tell you.... run. (or have a fire arm) etc... but these so called techniques will get you hurt, badly or worse.
So on that fateful day you just happened to be recovering from a sprained ankle and don't have a firearm (for whatever reason).
The nature of knife-defense comes with the inherent threat of harm and the high odds of getting cut...still have to train for it - the eventual disarm may come after enduring 7 or 8 superficial lacerations and 1 or 2 non-organ hitting stabs, BUT just before an arterial cut.
Despite your wounds, would the knife-defense training be worth it then?
A realist.......so listen watch and learn.............Bruce would have taught you similar
Спасибо
I don’t ever let them see the knife . Grapple and cut. Knee , arm they never see it coming.
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The best skill against knife users are bigger knife and dont bleed out before your opponent.
what if he has another knife and he pull it when you are not seeing it 😀
This is better than that Detroit Urban Survival guy
LOL The little guy is being thrown around like a rag doll lol
I have trained 10 years in eskrima. Obviously I would call the drills you show in the beginning what it is Modern Aris. This is not truly reflective of FMA since FMA is built for the street.
Never as planned. 😎
Ask Meyer and Fiore
Some may work. Obviously, the host doesn't know what counter arcing means where he is very prone to knife injuries. Majority will lead to progressive slash or cutting injuries that eventually result to more imminent openings and death.
I thought you're with bas rutten ✌️😅
It doesn’t unless you have Bruce Lee speed
Интересно
kevins height?
Pack a steel then 💯
I’ve done Kali and Silat for years. The only thing that is 100% is if you’re going to get in a knife 🔪 fight you will get cut. It’s extremely rare to be unscathed.
I say they shouldn't have brought a knife to a gun fight
it doesnt work. You only survive.
04.12 … :)
All the best if you think this is going to work.
I like you
It doesn't.
VERY NEEDFUL TECHNIC OF KNIFE DEFENSE. NO ONE SHOWN SHOWED THIS FAST TECHNIC TO PROTE CT LIFE
I teach a ten years old in knife fighting for one week
And be sure he kills 99% of unarmed
Attackers
ive been doing full contact martial arts for 7 years
and I find your comment absurd and very hard to believe.
@@mrx2586 that s because you've never been in a knife fight
That s not martial art but it's deadly in seconds
@@kevintrumpf4156 all I am going to say to that is there are people who I spar with who if I got in a real fight even if I had a knife I would have absolutely no chance at all against.
If I tried to attack these people with a knife they would be in absolutely no danger at all.
And I'm not talking about pro fighters here just people who are quite a bit better than me.
If a knife is not enough to enable me to even scratch some people let alone kill them why would a 10 year old with nothing more than one week training. have any meaningful chance.
First stab in the ishiatic nerve than cut through the back of the knee
Great lessons for die 😅
it does not
At the beginning you told the audience that you would run. In the middle of your vid you say: "it would work but it take practice." Let me tell you none of this technics work, nome. Bc one main reason: YOU NEVER KNOW! Stop teaching this kind of stuff
Alles Quatsch....die meisten Gegner die so etwas wirklich benutzen sprich Messer sind unberechenbar...besser weg laufen...alles schöne Theorie...
Knife defense is easy: have a gun and be a good 40-50 feet away from the guy.
Wow guys, if you get with a real trained knife fighter, your gonna get cut up. I see too much people playing around with knives and not really understanding how dangerous it can be. A professional in the streets will make you bleed out very quickly, but what’s the chance of running into that person, pretty slim I hope. I’ve got 68 years of martial arts, International Bodyguard, military and Police training, started with Wing Chun at age six in Hong Kong, lots and lots of street fighting in Hong Kong. Knives are dangerous, keep training, study some Filipino techniques, good luck to you.
The only good part of this video is when he said real knife defense is running away. I'm sorry but you're not going to succeed unarmed against an opponent with a knife unless you get lucky, I don't care how much you practice with a compliant partner who is not really trying to hurt you.
Your wrong.
I know many people who could easily succeed against me if I tried to attack them with a knife.
Frankly if I was ever attacked by an unarmed person who I did not know and I had a knife I would throw the knife away because I know that if that person has even minimal experience of being violent there is a 100% certainly that he will make me drop the knife, have his way with me and then walk away unharmed!
Not going to work, it work only in demo.
Out of reality…sorry but before you’re going to swing your arms for any defense you’re dead
It doesn't work... Just try it with a pen. You can0t defense against a knife, period.
Extremely difficult, yes; impossible, no.
Probability of being cut/stabbed - almost certain...but this doesn't mean necessarily being killed or even catastrophically injured.
Wrong!
I know lots of people who could easily defend themselves if I attacked them using nothing more than a knife.
terrible techniques
It doesn't work lol. Run or gun my dudes. Best to run.
They actually use Karambit not knives. It is pretty deadly. We call it slash and go.
Great