ARE You WALKING in ROMANS 8? - Andrew Strom

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  • Опубліковано 4 тра 2021
  • One of Andrew Strom's most challenging messages - preached in Kansas City, USA in 2005.

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  • @andrewvidler6693
    @andrewvidler6693 Рік тому +2

    My name is Andrew. I am Scottish, but I am living in Germany. I have walked in Christ for 37 years. My children are not yet saved, but child number two (the black sheep) has now been baptised... after repentance and has been filled with the Holy Spirit. It has been a month now, and he is a totally changed young man!
    My son was dead, and now he lives again. He was lost and now is found! His siblings can hardly believe the change that has come over him. Praise God!!
    This preaching is VERY SOUND, and I will endeavour to teach and ground my son on God's Word!! May he be a light for Christ in this dark world.

  • @annefaulkner6763
    @annefaulkner6763 3 роки тому +4

    I don’t want to be average. I want to be a pleasure to The Lord and allow Him to bring fruit for Him in my life.

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому +1

      Sure, shoot for the stars, Thats great but the truth is most are average, but they are blood bought Christians, not unsaved as Andrew seems to think.

    • @annefaulkner6763
      @annefaulkner6763 3 роки тому

      @@peteschlamp7365 Every person who has ever or will ever live has been blood bought. Some have been blotted out of The Lamb’s Book of Life because they rejected the drawing of The Holy Spirit to repent and follow Christ. I think Andrew is trying to get us to realize that many of us have been led by false doctrines when it comes to salvation. The only way you can come to Christ is by the drawing of The Holy Spirit who reveals your need for forgiveness through the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. A true revelation through a personal encounter with The Holy Spirit concerning Christ versus joining a group serving a god of our own making

  • @AndrewStrom1
    @AndrewStrom1  3 роки тому +7

    When I am speaking of "heart purity" here, I am literally meaning that "it is no longer I that live, but CHRIST that lives in me." It is HIS righteousness and HIS purity that dwells inside us. - Andrew Strom.

    • @faithinwhatChristdidonthecross
      @faithinwhatChristdidonthecross 3 роки тому

      I sure wish I could find a church in my area that preaches the way you do.

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому +2

      The message is very discouraging. What I hear is If your not like Charles Finny your probably not saved. There have always been desperately few Finnys and Pauls. All Christians will go to heaven weather carnal or spiritual. If you are walking in Rom 8 then you should spend the message on Rom 6. That shows the WAY to Rom 8 living. As sa ys Watchman Nee in the book you quoted. I think you missed a step in his book, that is that the Old Man has been crucified with Christ. Otherwise you would be talking about that instead of Finny.

    • @faithinwhatChristdidonthecross
      @faithinwhatChristdidonthecross 3 роки тому +1

      What always puzzles me is the thief on the cross didn't get baptized and he was going to be in paradise with the Lord immediately

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      @@faithinwhatChristdidonthecross There are two factors here. I highly recommend the book Andrew promotes which is The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee. This isnt in there but I first got it from Malcolm Smith whom I highly recommend. The page that says The New Covenant IS MAN INSERTED AND ITS IN THE WRONG PLACE. It should be in Acts 2 right after Pentecost because that WAS the New covenant come down to man. The four gospels were transition between the Old and the New. Thats where the thief on the cross comes in. Secondly, baptism does not give is the passage to heaven. The blood of Christ does. But baptism frees us from the dominion of sin imposed by the old man. Rom 6:6 and Gal 2:20. I have a complete article on this derived from Nee's book. If you would like it email me . pschlamp52@gmail.com

    • @davidchupp4460
      @davidchupp4460 3 роки тому

      @@peteschlamp7365 this is a false gospel. We are saved by Grace through faith in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the atonement through his blood. Our flesh is crucified in Christ Through the operation of God. It happens the moment you believe the gospel of Christ. You receive the Spirit of God and are sealed until the day of redemption. You can’t lose your salvation. No amount of an outside experience changes the Truth of Gods word. You need to believe the truth. All Christians walk after the Spirit. They have no choice as the flesh is now dead. You can’t walk after the flesh as it’s dead. Reckon yourself dead to sin and alive unto Christ from this day forward.

  • @forloveoftruth
    @forloveoftruth 2 роки тому

    Amen.

  • @nikkiwestwood6127
    @nikkiwestwood6127 2 роки тому

    I've been christian all my life but I came out of the churches about 15 years ago...but I don't feel like I'm saved nor holy ghost filled...I would like to be! But I smoke cigarettes and I can't complete a fast but I've been seeking to be closer to him

  • @yeshualives5989
    @yeshualives5989 2 роки тому

    1 John 1-8 if we claim to be without sin we decieve ourselfs and the truth is not in us. Its not that we Will not sin, its that we cannot continiue to stay in it. Santification is a process. I believe thats why JESUS taught the disciples to pray in this way. Daily asking for forgiveness of sins because we are still sinners. The difference between us and unbelievers is that we are fully aware of sin.

  • @yours2injesus2
    @yours2injesus2 3 роки тому +1

    AMEN

  • @gman411111111
    @gman411111111 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @ehleroo
    @ehleroo 3 роки тому +2

    Finney: "I could not seem to even sin had I wanted to."
    Apostle Paul: "For what I want to do, I do not do, but what I hate, I do....What a wretched man I am!" (Romans 7:15, 24 NIV)
    You make a compelling argument that shakes me to my core. And I'll definitely be meditating on this. But I'm not sure "total heart purity" (your words) exists in even the most holy of men. Thoughts?

    • @ehleroo
      @ehleroo 3 роки тому +1

      32:05 "Nowhere in scripture is [just asking Jesus into your heart] found, in fact, not even a remote resemblance to it." What about in Luke 23:42 with the thief on the cross?

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому +1

      To live in Rom 8 you MUST COME THROUGH ROM 6 which is Watchman Nees whole thrust in The Normal Christian Life which Andrew refers to but misses the point. The blood can wash away our sins but it can never wash away the old man! He must be crucified! And was. Rom 6:6 ,Gal 2:20 etc. This is THE REST (HEB4) OF THE GOSPEL

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      @@ehleroo one thing you must remember is the gospels were pre New Covenant. The New Covenant didnt begin until Acts 2.

    • @nicolep7241
      @nicolep7241 2 роки тому

      @@ehleroo Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom..TRANSLATED JESUS COME INTO MY HEART...OH I SEE NOW. I THINK...WAIT! WHAT?

  • @BiblicalFlatEarthJoshua
    @BiblicalFlatEarthJoshua 3 роки тому +2

    i'm walking in mathew 6:33

  • @grantsutton8727
    @grantsutton8727 3 роки тому

    1John1:8-10
    8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
    In verse 9 most people miss the second part not only is the Lord faithful and just to forgive us of our sin but also that He will cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    It's what He does otherwise we could fall into self righteousness.

  • @nicolep7241
    @nicolep7241 2 роки тому

    BE HOLY FOR HE IS HOLY....
    MATTHEW 25:10
    But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
    MATTHEW 25:11
    “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’
    MATTHEW 25:12
    “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’
    MATTHEW 25:13
    “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

  • @NcScbeach1
    @NcScbeach1 3 роки тому

    What should I do since I can’t find a pastor or solid Bible believing Church for a pastor to baptize me. I have received The Baptism in the Holy Spirit after The Holy Spirit convicted me that I was a sinner ( even as a professed Christian ) and I repented weeping and asked God to give me His desires and that I would not be a slave to this world and then I started speaking in tongues, but the greatest gift was my heart change! True Repentance is a gift from the Lord!
    What should I do about water baptism since I don’t know a solid Bible based pastor who teaches All of the Bible?

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      You can be baptized by anyone that is a Christian. That a pastor has to do it in a church is not biblical. Ideally when anyone leads another to Christ to where they believe they should immediately baptize them. Thats how it was first done. The rest we have added and its extra biblical.

    • @NcScbeach1
      @NcScbeach1 3 роки тому

      Pete Schlamp , I trust that The Lord will honor my statement of faith via water baptism , even if it’s eleven years since He convicted me. No one was in my car the night He convicted me and baptized me in the Holy Spirit, so I believe that he understands The Need for a Solid Christian Believer ( Spirit Filled) to Baptize me. Thank you so much for responding to my question Peter! May The Lord Bless You Brother.

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому +1

      @@NcScbeach1 i respect your idea. We get nothing from the person who baptises us unless by some chance he knows that in baptism the old man is crucified. That statement elimjnates the majority of people. I highly recommend the book Andrew mentioned. The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee.

    • @davydwilsson7470
      @davydwilsson7470 3 роки тому +1

      We DONT attend any local Church. Andrew spoke here about "once saved"...we have pastors where we live who believe in "once saved". We also have leaders who believe you "dont need to be saved to know Jesus", we also have pastors who NEVER preach!. We "do" Church online via those who are gifted in teaching Scripture: Andrew, Carter Conlon, David Wilkerson, Derek Prince and others

  • @GodChessBible
    @GodChessBible 3 роки тому

    Where is Andrew Strom now? How can we hear him?

  • @pedroschlamp2293
    @pedroschlamp2293 3 роки тому

    Andrew you have missed Watchman Nee's message in The Normal Christian Life. His message is there is a Twofold gospel. The blood can wash away our sins but it can never wash away the old man. He must be crucified. Rom 6:6 and Gal 2:20. Carnal and Spiritual. Two types of Christians.

    • @BiblicalFlatEarthJoshua
      @BiblicalFlatEarthJoshua 3 роки тому +2

      Acts 2:37,38. one type

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      @@BiblicalFlatEarthJoshua if you read the book he recommended you ewill understand that the gospel has two halves

    • @davidchupp4460
      @davidchupp4460 3 роки тому +1

      There’s only saved Christians. All Christians walk after the Spirit otherwise you’re not saved. No saved person walks after the flesh as our flesh is crucified by the operation of God. You need a KJV bible to rightly divide the word of Truth.

  • @kaditankoano9800
    @kaditankoano9800 5 місяців тому

    S'il vous plait en français

  • @GiveBackAll
    @GiveBackAll 3 роки тому

    Andrew recognizes that Christians were living at a higher level in the 1800s, a level that should be Normal Christianity. Sadly, he does not see that Azuza Street (and other similar movements) was a decline from truth. We are now in the days of the church of Laodicea (Rev. 3:14-22) the final apostasy (1 Tim 4:1;2 Tim 3:1), and true Christians need to get back to pure truth of walking in the Spirit, not an external manifestation of the flesh.

  • @Hey_ok_A
    @Hey_ok_A 3 роки тому

    No I am walking in Joel 2

    • @GiveBackAll
      @GiveBackAll 3 роки тому

      Should we walk in all of the Bible?

    • @Hey_ok_A
      @Hey_ok_A 3 роки тому

      @@GiveBackAll we walk completely out of the Bible (the tree of the knowledge of Good and evil), into green pastures... No need to crucify Jesus over, and over, and over... Come up out of the grave!!

  • @JOSHUAloves1
    @JOSHUAloves1 3 роки тому

    It's been 10 years and we still have not got the new Kundalini serpent Spirit New Apostolic Reformation doctrines taught by demons video?

  • @davidchupp4460
    @davidchupp4460 3 роки тому +1

    It’s sad that so few people understand Romans. All Christians walk after the Spirit or they are none of his. No Christian can walk after the flesh. It’s impossible as your flesh is dead and dead flesh can’t sin. We are crucified with Christ and the body of sin is condemned or dead by the circumcision of God. Yes it is all about grace through faith. You are preaching a false work based salvation. Paul stated clearly that it’s nothing we do but everything he does.

  • @peteschlamp7365
    @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

    It is not reasonable to compare the average Christian to charles Finney. I have read about him too. That is like comparing any human to Goliath. Giants werent that plentiful. Most of us are average.

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      @Queens News i highly recommend you read the book Andrew promotes called The Normal Christian Life bu Watchman Nee. Carnal Christians WILL go to heaven but with great loss from living this life.

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      @Queens News sure. Sounds like an interesting message.

    • @nicolep7241
      @nicolep7241 2 роки тому

      @Queens News YES, YES AND YES...OK I MEAN AMEN BROTHER!!!

    • @PreparetheWayoftheLord911
      @PreparetheWayoftheLord911 2 роки тому

      MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. NEVER REPENTED, NEVER TURNED FROM THE WORLD, NO TRUE REMORSE, NO BROKENNESS, STILL IN LOVE WITH THE WORLD, FOLLOWING THE PATTERN OF THE WORLD, LOOK, ACT AND SOUND JUST LIKE THE WORLD.
      COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY IS EVERYWHERE.
      IT IS THE NORM NOT THE EXCEPTION. UNCONVERTED COLD AND LUKEWARM APOSTATE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS HAVE NEVER COUNTED THE COSTS, COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM...WE ARE NOT TO TOUCH ANY UNCLEAN THING.
      WE ARE TO COME OUT OF BABYLON...EGYPT...SODOM AND GOMORRAH. BE HOLY AS HE IS HOLY...HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FRUITLESS DEEDS OF DARKNESS.
      YOU HAVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN THE PAST DOING WHAT THE PAGANS DO.
      FLEE THE EVIL DESIRES OF YOUTH, WE HAVE DIED TO SIN HOW CAN WE LIVE IN IT ANY LONGER...NO ONE WHO CONTINUES TO SIN HAS NEITHER SEEN HIM OR KNOW HIM...LET US PURIFY OURSELVES FROM EVERYTHING THAT CONTAMINATES BODY AND SPIRIT PERFECTING HOLINESS OUT REVERENCE FOR GOD.
      THE BRIDE MAKES HERSELF READY...PRODUCE FRUIT IN KEEPING WITH REPENTANCE...THE AX IS ALREADY AT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, YOUR TREE THAT PRODUCES FRUIT OF REBELLION, STUBBORNNESS, EVIL DESIRES WHERE THERE IS NO PLACE FOR GOD.
      NO MORE CASUAL, CAREFREE, CARELESS, COMPROMISING, COMPLACENT, COLD-HEARTED, LUKEWARM,COUNTERFEIT, CHRISTIANITY WHERE WE HONOR GOD WITH OUR LIPS BUT OUR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM HIM...PROFESS TO KNOW HIM BUT BY OUR ACTIONS WE DENY HIM...CALL HIM LORD BUT DO NOT DO WHAT HE SAYS, HAVE A FORM A GODLINESS BUT DENY ITS POWER...

  • @broadbandtogod
    @broadbandtogod 3 роки тому

    Wait... stop.
    Ok, I heard you, I appreciate you and I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. But this has to be said:
    (Pastor, don't read this too much as a personal message, this is primarily ment as a general statement and for readers)
    (If you are linked to the other YT page, "thelivingword" I know that you already know hebrew and the latter part of this comment does not apply yo you at all. I've also sent you emails in the past with appreciated response, if so, thank you)
    We live in this body, ergo, our whole perception of reality is more or less based on our anatomy by our physical body.
    Yes, it is true that we also are spirit, and when are born again, the path to God is open in our hearts since He made us His temple - through Christ tearing down the veil to the holy of holies.
    Issue:
    How clearly, EXACTLY, do you hear God from day to day? Can you honestly say that it's like having a conversation face to face like it is to a human being?
    If people DID, I can understand why this kind of sermon is needed, to awake people to what they are actually doing.
    There are a lot of hinderences when walking in the Spirit. "We fight not against flesh and blood..."
    But hearing and communing with the Holy Spirit takes faith, and without faith, there will be no closeness to the Father, nor any actions of cleansing either.
    So: Mindset is one: if you have a hard time understanding the concept of Christ dying, you dying with Him, and as He rose again, so are you born again, into Heaven as a citizen and a child.
    If you have issues understanding that, then you won't act on it as powerful or in faith "as you should". And with low faith, comes low communication with the Holy Spirit.
    God responds to acts of faith, miracles happen when faith is displayed. IF PEOPLE DOES NOT KNOW ANY BETTER, WHY ARE YOU SHOVELING GUILT ON THEM?
    Are people in the church lazy? Sure. Could we get taught more, read more, strive more? Yes, of course. But we are still children of God. A bad child is still a child nonetheless. You have to be VERY clear when you criticize church members, because often - even if it is our responsibility to have a good relationship with our Father - IT IS OUR TEACHERS WHO ARE AT FAULT.
    Teachers don't teach anymore, they speak a lot of how christians are "BAD christians". You know, I haven't heard the Gospel preached, IN YEARS.
    So speaking of teaching, let's take a look at hebrew, and I will show you faith.
    Hebrew is the original language of God, the Original text in the Old Testament.
    Did you know that in hebrew, every letter is based on a pictogram; a picture for each letter? There are 22 foundational letters, we will look at 3 of them
    The human race, ADAM, (The first human was named Adam too, but we collective of all of us humans was made in Adam)
    Adam is spelled: A, D, M: "Alef", "Dalet", "Mem", as each letter is pronounced.
    "Mem" means water, while "Dalet" means door. This two letters together, means blood. It's an easy picture to understand! The heart has many openings of/into bloodvessels, or "doors/openings", while water or fluid is passing through them.
    DM, "dam", means blood in hebrew.
    Alef, comes from the picture from an ox, which represents strength, that which comes first, immovable, or is higher in order. It is a symbol for the Father, or God.
    A + DM, (alef) + (dam) = ADAM = God's blood... which is us. Our identity from the beginning, from creation, that God see's us as His own. HOW MANY CHRISTIAN PEOPLE KNOW THIS? HOW MANY NON-BELIEVERS?
    We were meant to live in the precense of God, that's our origin and our best state of being. If one believes that mankind/people are just a bunch of small, idiotic and insignificant creatures, but that God loves so much that He as to be sacrified and die for, to save the butts of our retched and miserable lives, we, who are just "trying" to get back and live in a holy state we are ment to... if that is the association that we have of ourselves, whyyy should we make an effort?
    God values us so highly that He calls us His own blood. So forgive *my frustration*, but when preachers and sermons alike, pinpoints our spiritual laziness, our decadency and lack of fire for God, they criticize the lack of conviction. But conviction is based on knowledge, which in turn activates faith! If someone is not living in faith, you CANNOT tell people to act like they know better, because they DON'T. THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
    We are bad children because we lack knowledge and the raising education from God as our Father, not because we are filled with malice.
    Is it a "bad" human kids fault because he's bad, because of the lack of a parent?
    Do you really want to have your mind blown? Check this link:
    ua-cam.com/video/RmnUkNT55gU/v-deo.html
    Peace
    Please forgive any mistakes, misunderstanding or grief I've caused anyone

    • @peteschlamp7365
      @peteschlamp7365 3 роки тому

      Thank you. Andrew is missing the truth of Rom 6:6 and Gal 2:20. He is in the category he is condemning.

    • @broadbandtogod
      @broadbandtogod 3 роки тому

      @@peteschlamp7365 This might sound a little contradictory, but don't get me wrong, but I agree with Andrew in the majority of what he says (in all his sermons), and there is a cleanliness we actually can walk in, which we all should strive to understand and get into. You have no idea how hungry I've been for God and getting piss-poor results in the spiritual, and I've had no idea why, because I lack knowledge, and I've seen so many christians fail because of the same reason!
      And I love the stories about Kuhlman and Wigglesworth and all of the faith "generals". What I fail to understand is where their legacy has gone! Why did the teachings of the first apostles and disciples of Christ die out so quickly? Ok fine, they were brutally murdered, but even with the faith-movement upswing 1600 years later, it still died out! We cannot criticize the john-doe christians to the degree many pastors often do, as if everyone possessed the knowledge of Wigglesworth but fail to live up to standard.
      That, I don't buy. More teaching by example, please!

    • @PreparetheWayoftheLord911
      @PreparetheWayoftheLord911 2 роки тому

      ​@@broadbandtogod YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THEIR IS A REMNANT THAT HAS NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO THE GOD OF THIS WORLD.
      2 SPIES, JOSHUA AND CALEB, THE GENERATION OF FAITH NOT THE 10 SPIES OF UNBELIEF AFRAID TO POSSESS THE LAND AND 10 SLEEPING VIRGINS OF MATTHEW 25. SEE THE PARALLELS, CORONATIONS, TYPES, AND SHADOWS? THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

    • @PreparetheWayoftheLord911
      @PreparetheWayoftheLord911 2 роки тому

      @@broadbandtogod WAIT... STOP. "We cannot criticize the john-doe Christians to the degree many pastors often do, as if everyone possessed the knowledge of Wigglesworth but fail to live up to standard". THE STANDARD IS CHRIST. BE HOLY FOR HE IS HOLY.
      Jeremiah 5:5 So I will go to the leaders
      and speak to them;
      surely they know the way of the Lord,
      the requirements of their God.”
      But with one accord they too had broken off the yoke
      and torn off the bonds.

    • @broadbandtogod
      @broadbandtogod 2 роки тому

      @@PreparetheWayoftheLord911 You clearly do not understand my frustration nor the point I was making.
      I will not argue though, I've been coming closer to the answer I seek, so I feel better, thank you.