There was a young boy selling ice cream and he was shut down by a neighbor calling. The young boy was raising money for his baseball club. He reopened with the sign "Ice Cream" donations accepted. He raised over $1,000.00 that day.
That's how I get around an ordinance that doesn't allow me to sell chicken eggs. I give the eggs away and accept donations towards feed cost or barter them. People even decide how much money they give. I don't even offer a suggestion.
You are in Michigan..dem run. Expect more laws to come Unless You people make your voice known this voting season. Memory jog...during mandatory shutdown you guys weren't even allowed to purchase garden supplies or travel (unless you were one of government rulers) want 4 more years of the same and worse? Then be sure to put the same people in office.
We living in the last days in this world. As the Bible teaches us. In the lasting day everything is right will become wrong in the humans eyes. And all the wrong will be consent, and accept accordingly men's laws. It's hard, and it will get worse day by day. God have mercy. But be strong, we live on the evils day. God bless. Be strong.
56 years old, born, raised and still living in Michigan. I've been so disappointed with our state since Whitmer. But anyways I live for our farm stands and I go all the time. I buys eggs, jellies, Jams, honey, fresh veggies and fruit and have never bought any of that face to face. It's always been the honor system.
They don't mind letting big companies have recall after recall yet they never get shut down. Seems like government doesn't want people to have access to fresh food locally grown.
This was my first thought. I see people commenting that this is for the safety of the public. No, it’s for control. Big food and big ag can make all the people sick but you’re right, they never get shut down.
@@jennwatson74 Don't leave out all the dept. and agencies. Municipal water with fluoride doesn't keep anyone save. Chemicals are all approved. Iodine cleans water and the oceans are full of it. God's gifts ruled by .... (can't say it). We have to follow the laws but we don't have to respect them.
@jennwatson74 She mentioned she thought she was OK because she did not make over the capped amount. I think it is wrong to put a cap on how much a person can earn.
Meanwhile in the state of Michigan you have water treatment plants selling/giving away Bio waste as fertilizer and it is loaded with PFAS (forever chemicals) and you have farmers using that on their crops and in their pastures which leads to animals having high amounts of PFAS in the meat! Honestly things like this really can tick someone off! I hope you guys can get this sorted out!
Maybe they should spend more time cleaning up the water that has poisoned poor families! Oh, wait, they're poor, so there's no hurry in cleaning it up!
In this new america why cannot some people leave others alone ? I am a legal immigrant since 1988 and see this country change so much I cannot believe what has become of my beloved homeland
@@smas3256 I think the original post meant that she didn't use the Second Amendment on the town officials. Which would be the American way to deal with tyrants.
@@basspig That's a little extreme but you can be sure I'd have put up a sign, "Temporarily Closed Due To Busybody Neighbors and Overreaching State and Local Officials", for a start.
Little village homestead on UA-cam is in Michigan and has a farm stand. She has a ringer on hers when someone visits it so she can go out and help them. I wonder if you had any questions if you could reach out to her for help as someone who already follows the laws. I really appreciate you taking the time to let us know what was happening with the farm stand and I pray you work it all out. God bless you
that was my first thought - just add a buzzer or ringer and go out when needed. If not home, close it up. Not ideal, but not totally closed. And the "no set prices" approach is good, too, maybe with "gently suggested donations". No actual prices. That makes it not-for-profit and likely sidesteps many of the official sales rules.
As a former health inspector for the state of Florida, I encourage you to reach out to your inspector and discuss your options on how you can operate and meet the state expectations. Most inspectors are not looking to hurt people or prevent them from operating. I worked with many restaurant operators with finding alternative ways to operate their business and meet state laws/rules. I hope you find a way to be able to operate your stand.
👍🏻👍🏻 I appreciate your comment because I believe that there are ways to work these things out and not everyone in the government is out to get farmers. 😊
No. Very simple: Americans should simply label items "govt compliant" or "non-compliant" and allow customers to assess risk themselves. Where I live they turn a blind eye to Amish neighbors that sell FOOD. Old Order, so no coolers or anything. My door would be kicked in and my home surrounded by guns. Real sick and tired of this shit. The state is incompetent and has no place with doling out "rules". Everything is in the name of helping us, isn't it?
I used to know someone who had "open houses" regularly. That way she would have visitors come, maybe 10-1 on a saturday. She would have snacks set up and sell her goods in person at that time. That way people got to taste her jams and things, and she sold face-to-face, but not every day.
Please write in and ask that these laws be changed, and get 20 of your friends to do so! We want to serve you and provide healthy nutritious food right from our farms!
@@ErinOBrien-io9qm which law that she violated should be changed? You don't want to put an address on a product so officials could trace cases of food borne illnesses to the source? What's so wrong with these regulations?
@@thefeministagenda9544that is not why she didn’t put the address on the label. I completely understand her reasoning for not putting it on them. They are buying from her farm stand in her front yard- it may be one of the things they add if they continue next season. Get off your soap box.
I feel so sad for you because the joy the farm stand brought you was very visible. Perhaps a booth in a community farmer's market is the way to go. The calmness you have displayed during this video reinforces your character. Thank you for sharing and for being a positive example for all to witness.
I am in SE Michigan, I stop at farm stands all spring, summer and fall. I buy my eggs every week from one. I've never seen a person! I think someone made specific complaints against you for some reason and looked at the Cottage laws while they were doing it. I'm so sorry this happened! Your stand is beautiful! I hope you figure something out AND that Michigan isn't getting even crazier they better not take away my farm stands!!
Have it open for specific hours during the week and do the sales face-to-face if that is a main requirement. Maybe even have a volunteer to be present during some of the times the stand is open. Do not give up. Your Farmstand is awesome!!!!
@@thefeministagenda9544. “Basic laws” by whose definition yours! Oh plzzzzz govt needs to pay attention to all the crap going on and stay out of our business! It is UN American!
I am guessing that most of these laws spring from a time that didn't have the technology we do today. People got sick and someone probably died and the government reacted by creating a law that restricted that thing that caused the incident in the first place. What needs to happen is to go back and question those laws. If they are truly outdated and are no longer needed, then the state legislature needs to change the law.
You’re so precious! I know that God will continue to direct you and honor you’re humble response. I believe this will turn into a blessing for you. There are other avenues and I believe He will open doors for you. Abundant Blessings
I’m sorry to hear this. It’s a shame that these cottage laws have so much interpretation to deal with. I hope you find a way to reopen and this is just a bump in the road and not a complete road block.
This is what our government wants. Please vote people to BRING OUR FARMERS BACK....even the ones like her who are keeping people healthy. Fight on. So sad. ❤
I am in Michigan and I see farmstands all over the that are not face-to-face sales .. I wonder if there’s was nearby person that is in competition with you that reported you?
Inspectors don't drive around hunting for issues. They rely on the snitch. And snitching is being quietly pushed more and more. In fact, some areas, it's loudly encouraged.
Also, we used to have a raw milk dairy near us. It was amazing. And then a pregnant woman consumed raw milk, got sick (what knows what caused the sickness) and then reported them and shut this small family farm down. Seriously, people have lost their minds.
You have to do herd shares to sell raw milk. I personally think it’s a flex on the Dairy industry’s part. We would have more small family dairies of all kinds if the consumer was trusted to process this milk like they are trusted to process thier pork purchase
I stopped by from bay city and I think your stand is amazing, don’t give up, adapt and keep going, in the end that person who was miserable enough to complain will be miserable that their tactics didn’t work.💜
Where would we be without the government protecting us? This has to change. What’s with no self-serve, when most fast food restaurants, banks, etc. encourage customers to order at their kiosk? Common sense needs to prevail.
I have a friend who does a farm stand and she has a motion ringer that goes off whenever a customer walks up to her stand. She has the stand open on days when she's doing things around the house and can hear it. She picks her days "open" as her work days and has them on the same days every week. Blessings to you ❤
And yet no one was accountable for Covid. Sorry but I am just so frustrated by this. Thanks for all you do, For those of us trying to learn you are a true blessing.
@@whitecreekhomestead6277 I mean, labeling the food with the producer would enable recalls of her product if something went wrong. The ability to recall products is a good thing.
I’m so sorry…but you really do have the greatest attitude going forward. I love you sharing your recipes and techniques in the kitchen. I have learned so much from you and I would have been a loyal customer if I lived in your area! It will all work out, I am confident of that! ❤
Amen to this comment right here! ^^ What the enemy means for evil God turns around for good. Keep the good attitude, pray over the direction to go and let the Lord lead. His path is never wrong.
It’s not just your state. I had one come by my store just looking around like a peeper, never said who they were just being weird till I questioned her. Someone made a complaint, but I had all my paperwork in order and she changed her attitude quick. One thing I’ve discovered in my situation is no one in the office will tell you what you can and can’t do, but they sure can tell you what you are doing wrong once you start. I do hope that you get it worked out. I guarantee you there are people that appreciate what you do!
And people still think America is a free country. Think about it, people can make the choice to go have their private parts cut off, but they can’t choose what they put into their own bodies. Let that sink in America.
I live in Michigan as well. We have a person who sells at the farmers market and anytime they hear about someone they think is taking away from their profit they reposrt them until they get shutdown.
Rolling my eyes!!! It’s the government!! They don’t want us to survive on our own. You calmed me down though Rachel as you talked about it. It still makes me mad. I can’t shop there as I’m in Arkansas but I would so love to shop your goodies. I pray it works out! Much love and prays to you and Todd.
I have a home cottage food business and yes, that’s the law here in Florida too. Proper labeling that includes (your address, description, ingredients, and amount), it’s have to be face to face, no shipping, only you can deliver or sell, no one else, no online ordering. Also stuff like jams and jellies, you cannot leave at your stand, or under the sun outside. Mine is a cookie shop, that’s a different than yours but rules are kind of the same, sorry for the bad experience you had! 😢
Protect out health? Have u seen what's in supermarket food hahahha that made me lol. They dont gaf about our health they just want here their grimey hands in everything we do!
BINGO!! Today farmers are telling President Trump why they are failing to thrive. It's all on purpose. People are much worse off over these last 4 years and getting worse, not better. Anyone who can't see that, is walking blindly into the enemies trap. 🐏
I'm sorry you've had to shut down your farm stand Rachel. I'm glad you're not giving up though. Maybe if you reopen you can include some cute T-shirts that say "A lot of what I want to do is illegal"!😅
Yeah, just "sell" merch on your stand, that's not regulated. And give away the food free. Like this: buy 1 T-Shirt, get a free 8oz jar of jelly! You can figure the rest out from there.
I'm so sorry you had to close your stand. There are so many kill-joys out in this world. Hopefully, you'll find a way to get your stand up and running next year. ❤
I live in Colorado and was selling jams, jellies and pickles under cottage laws at farmers markets for awhile, so I completely understand what you are going through. I did all the classes too, the requirements are overwhelming. After 2 years, I ended up closing it down because I was getting too big for the cottage laws and I couldn’t navigate all the requirements and laws to expand on my own. It was either invest several thousands of dollars to expand or close it down. It was devastating.
Actually this is a loosening of regulations and Florida is more restrictive. Every state has thier own laws over health and safety because those are state rights. If you want to change it, you have to demand your state expand the cottage food options
What a bummer, indeed! Thank you for addressing it with calmness and grace and using this experience as a teaching moment for all of us. I love that you are looking to working with the inspector as a partner, vs bashing the government even though there are a lot of things we don't agree with. I know you are SO busy, but could you take your show on the road to a farmer's market or craft show? Keep up the great work in all the things you do!
I know of a veteran who had a couple of project cars in his yard.A messy neighbor called building inspector on this veteran.The least our country could've done was let a hero have his cars.Prayers on your situation.
Oh my gosh😢 i am really disheartened for you. I love that Todd suggested that you take a moment before you video’d ❤. And your prayerfelt approach moving forward is an inspiration and a showing of your belief in God
I hope your farm stand isn't over either. My partner and I were talking future vacations and actually included visiting your farm stand on our journey. Because you are who you are - always so balanced - I look forward to how you manage this unwelcome speedbump in your first retirement year. I wish it wasn't happening to you.
So sorry you are going through this. I know you both put a lot of time and effort into the farm stand. I’m sure the majority of the community appreciated it; it seems there is always THE ONE. Take time to regroup but don’t give up. Where there is a will there is a way. What advice would you give your kids if they were in this situation? You and Todd are strong and I can’t wait to see you guys reflecting on this moment years down the road.
True story: I moved from a big city to a suburb to work from home so I could homeschool my daughter who was struggling in school (this was 25 years ago and I was a single mom). I registered my business as a piano teacher with the county, and taught children and adults Monday thru Friday after school hours in my living room. This worked out beautifully bc I was a classically trained musician who studied with a music professor my entire childhood, and grew up in a von trap type family. LOL. One day, I received a letter from the local tax man, claiming I owed taxes based on the inventory value of my home studio. Mind you, my net income at the time was paltry at $9,000 per year after paying federal taxes, and had given up a huge salary as a FT computer engineer. After certified letters went back and forth, I was told I needed to pay taxes on the music lesson books I maintained inside the residence, since it was considered inventory. I sent a spreadsheet of the value of my well-worn beloved music books to the official, wherein the owed tax came to approximately $1. LOL. I never heard back from him after that. 🧐
There is alot of this type of stuff going on in our state of Michigan co ops getting closed down for raw milk and butter and made to throw it all in thentrash I wouldnt have been so nice about it .😮 I'm glad you're contacting the inspector and hope it all works out. very sad 😢
It's disappointing that you received the letter. However, it appears that there are a few things you can do about it to get your adorable stand up and running again. I appreciate that you are having a mature response to the enforcement of safety regulations in your county. Not everyone is as responsible about their products as you are, so it's understandable that health standards need to be in place. I hope 🙏🏼 it goes well for you. Thanks for sharing this video.
This makes me so sad for you all 😢 and our country in a wider lense… need to return to our roots. Your response is truly gracious… Hoping you are able to collaborate with local officials & restart your retirement hobby ❤
I can see why they want “face to face”. Someone could come to your stand and put something on it that you did not make. It is getting really creepy out there who knows.
Yes that makes sense but I am thinking the same could happen in a grocery store, where do you draw the line? I saw someone holding a fork eating out of the salad bar at a grocery store once, another taking food and eating from dry food bins, and another munching on grapes as she shopped. It looked to me like all of her items were sealed. 14:50
I am so sorry to see this. Keeping you in prayers. It’s crazy how different cottage laws are state to state. But it’s good information and advice for those of us who are looking to do a farm stand on things to look out for. Sorry you had to go through this and thank you for sharing.
So sorry. We live in California. My olive oil friend has to sell out side her building because she bottles oil inside. (She now uses the porch overhang)She had a cute table and shelf on the other side of the wall where they bottle. Not allowed. And she can’t have bread to sample the oil, that’s serving food. They needed an “act of congress” to put in a flush toilet. They were expected to have an out house for themselves, an employee or customers. The laws here are oppressive if you are a small operator. And the taxes are crippling. Another friend who sells jam and jelly at events has made a sticker that says “all food prepared and bottled in my home kitchen.” SorryRachel. I love your recipes
I’m in west michigan. My husband and I were doing a mental count of several Stands that are probably not in compliance. I wonder if someone reported you or if it’s because you had a public forum. Otherwise you may have gone unnoticed. Either way God had a plan and his plan is always best. So sorry because we could see the excitement and joy this stand brought you!
I am so proud of you and the way you are handling this situation. I have also enjoyed following your journey with your farmstand and everything else you endeavor to do; you ARE such are an inspiration!! Never let mean spirited people dull your sparkle!!
I'm idaho and we are kinda blessed on our laws. But even better we have a barter group that we attend meet-ups and we have a Facebook group. I am bartering all the time. Might be a thing you could do in your area!
I am sorry to hear that. Best of luck when you talk to the inspector. Hope you can reopen it. I see stands all over the place here. Many are self serve. Your set up looked amazing. Sorry to hear there were those complained - just jealous.
You know what I find sad the most out of this whole situation is that you can easily see it's not the inspector that's the problem. A member of their community instead of just simply going to them and saying, "Hey, love what you're doing, but to my knowledge, there are some problems with your stand that I believe are in violation. Would you mind if I shared them with you?" This simple opening to conversation would have allowed Todd and Rachel to then talk to their governing agency. I am sure they would have corrected what was wrong and things that were not they would have some information for that concerned citizen to explain why they are doing what they are. Why can't we just talk to each other instead of being jealous, or scared of each other? It's so sad.
But Rachel knew what was wrong before she even got the letter. Some of those rules are ridiculous IMO, but she knew she was breaking them so I don’t think a conversation would have helped. For example, the label. She knew she had to put her address. She did not. The face to face. She said it was open to interpretation but then said if you read all the way down it is clear. Again, rules might be absurd, but she knew she was breaking them. And she wasn’t fine or cited, so that’s a good thing.
Aww Rachael. Just hearing the sadness in your voice breaks my heart. I mean you and becky from acre homestead are the reason I started preserving food and gardening... so keep your head up. God bless you and yours
Hi Rachel. I feel bad that things had to come to this. The laws in the States is crazy, but we all have to go by them at all cost. Rachel, you are a trooper and a wonderful woman and don't you forget it Sweet Heart ❤️. God Bless you and hope you can do it next year. HUGS 🤗. Mari'a. 🤗❤️🤗❤️👍👍👍👍👋👋👋💕💕💕🍂🍁🍂🍁
So sorry to hear this! Just a thought....what about a driveway alarm to notify you that a customer is at the stand so that you could go and be face to face with your customers?
I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m with you, I try to be a law abiding citizen but I also feel like that is up to me as a consumer to decide if it s safe for me. In Texas we have folks sitting in lawn chairs selling tamales and I am like no way! I think it’s a great idea to speak to the inspector and see where you can find a path.
I think you handled this beautifully Rachel. I would be heartbroken and I know it hurts you. Keep thinking about what you can do, talk with Todd and be creative, within the laws, and you will still be able to fill your creative need with the farm stand. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Best of luck!
I feel like you shared some edifying information, like classes that may be offered by extension office or who ever in a state may be in charge as you put it. I would not had realized to research or where to potentially search such information. I also appreciate your humble approach realizing simply you may need to simply have a conversation to define interpretation. With so many people defensive about so many political topics, it is a good reminder it simply starts with a conversation where we can all grow by. So thank you for sharing. I hope you discover some happy resolutions ❤
I’m sorry Rachel about your stand. I know how hard you worked and how enjoyable it was for you. All the things going on in this country and this is what we spend our time on (shutting the stand down ) geez!!!
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There was a young boy selling ice cream and he was shut down by a neighbor calling. The young boy was raising money for his baseball club. He reopened with the sign "Ice Cream" donations accepted. He raised over $1,000.00 that day.
That's how I get around an ordinance that doesn't allow me to sell chicken eggs. I give the eggs away and accept donations towards feed cost or barter them. People even decide how much money they give. I don't even offer a suggestion.
Amen to this
You are in Michigan..dem run. Expect more laws to come
Unless You people make your voice known this voting season. Memory jog...during mandatory shutdown you guys weren't even allowed to purchase garden supplies or travel (unless you were one of government rulers) want 4 more years of the same and worse? Then be sure to put the same people in office.
that is brilliant!!
We living in the last days in this world. As the Bible teaches us. In the lasting day everything is right will become wrong in the humans eyes. And all the wrong will be consent, and accept accordingly men's laws. It's hard, and it will get worse day by day. God have mercy. But be strong, we live on the evils day. God bless. Be strong.
56 years old, born, raised and still living in Michigan. I've been so disappointed with our state since Whitmer. But anyways I live for our farm stands and I go all the time. I buys eggs, jellies, Jams, honey, fresh veggies and fruit and have never bought any of that face to face. It's always been the honor system.
No farms no food, no healthy food is the plan, everyone sick and on medication is the plan. Control the food, control the ppl
They want us eating bugs & I aint eating no bugs!
The problem with your jams is that they don’t have 57 chemicals no one can pronounce to make them safe for human consumption.
Well said.
Next label should include: No crickets in my organic food.
Oh but….can’t say “organic” with out inspections, permits and fees. For now you can say no chemicals or pesticides used.
They don't mind letting big companies have recall after recall yet they never get shut down. Seems like government doesn't want people to have access to fresh food locally grown.
This was my first thought. I see people commenting that this is for the safety of the public. No, it’s for control. Big food and big ag can make all the people sick but you’re right, they never get shut down.
Guess what that is what they want ‼️
@@jennwatson74 Don't leave out all the dept. and agencies. Municipal water with fluoride doesn't keep anyone save. Chemicals are all approved. Iodine cleans water and the oceans are full of it. God's gifts ruled by .... (can't say it). We have to follow the laws but we don't have to respect them.
@jennwatson74 She mentioned she thought she was OK because she did not make over the capped amount. I think it is wrong to put a cap on how much a person can earn.
Exactly
Jealous people will make it their job, to bring you down. They complain until inspector has no choice. There are jealous people everywhere.
Some people just can't stand the thought that others have so much creativity and they have none!
Yes. Go talk with your Inspector and ask for a Copy of the Complaint…. Then, go on line. Limited Income in Michigan? Whoa unto Michigan.
Then Confront your Accusers with a Law Suit? Restraint of Trade anyone?
@@kimberleyjane2338 do you not understand the reason for these regulations?
Oh yeah!
Meanwhile in the state of Michigan you have water treatment plants selling/giving away Bio waste as fertilizer and it is loaded with PFAS (forever chemicals) and you have farmers using that on their crops and in their pastures which leads to animals having high amounts of PFAS in the meat! Honestly things like this really can tick someone off! I hope you guys can get this sorted out!
Maybe they should spend more time cleaning up the water that has poisoned poor families! Oh, wait, they're poor, so there's no hurry in cleaning it up!
In this new america why cannot some people leave others alone ? I am a legal immigrant since 1988 and see this country change so much I cannot believe what has become of my beloved homeland
Make NO mistake,,,,, it's all about CONTROL !!!!!!
Worse. It’s about “DELETING” our people, our very lives and way of life. C(19) was a huge start to the culling process.
@@scubasmitty5135 you people are such whiny children.
@@thefeministagenda9544 K M A !!!
You're a lot calmer and nicer about it than I would be ...
😢 What bummer, I’m sorry.
Calm? Close to tears.
@@smas3256 I think the original post meant that she didn't use the Second Amendment on the town officials. Which would be the American way to deal with tyrants.
@@smas3256 Ha! I'd be frothing at the mouth and swearing revenge on all my enemies for a hundred miles in every direction.
@@basspig That's a little extreme but you can be sure I'd have put up a sign, "Temporarily Closed Due To Busybody Neighbors and Overreaching State and Local Officials", for a start.
Little village homestead on UA-cam is in Michigan and has a farm stand. She has a ringer on hers when someone visits it so she can go out and help them. I wonder if you had any questions if you could reach out to her for help as someone who already follows the laws. I really appreciate you taking the time to let us know what was happening with the farm stand and I pray you work it all out. God bless you
that was my first thought - just add a buzzer or ringer and go out when needed. If not home, close it up. Not ideal, but not totally closed.
And the "no set prices" approach is good, too, maybe with "gently suggested donations". No actual prices. That makes it not-for-profit and likely sidesteps many of the official sales rules.
I watch that one also .❤
Maybe face to face can be video. Such a shame. I feel like farmstead are part of our rural culture and experience.
As a former health inspector for the state of Florida, I encourage you to reach out to your inspector and discuss your options on how you can operate and meet the state expectations. Most inspectors are not looking to hurt people or prevent them from operating. I worked with many restaurant operators with finding alternative ways to operate their business and meet state laws/rules. I hope you find a way to be able to operate your stand.
👍🏻👍🏻 I appreciate your comment because I believe that there are ways to work these things out and not everyone in the government is out to get farmers. 😊
I've been planning to do something similar in Oregon to supplement my retirement.
This is such good advice. Thanks for sharing the information.
There needs to be more decent people like you to help businesses rather than destroy them. Blessings.
No. Very simple: Americans should simply label items "govt compliant" or "non-compliant" and allow customers to assess risk themselves. Where I live they turn a blind eye to Amish neighbors that sell FOOD. Old Order, so no coolers or anything. My door would be kicked in and my home surrounded by guns. Real sick and tired of this shit. The state is incompetent and has no place with doling out "rules". Everything is in the name of helping us, isn't it?
Thank you Rachel for setting a good example in the face of adversity. I believe you will be rewarded for that. It’s going to work out.
I am so sorry, but also very proud of you all for deciding not to "pack it up" all together. It isn't failure until you quit trying. ❤️
Amen!! 🙏🇺🇲🙏
They didn't fail, the gov't fails us.
I used to know someone who had "open houses" regularly. That way she would have visitors come, maybe 10-1 on a saturday. She would have snacks set up and sell her goods in person at that time. That way people got to taste her jams and things, and she sold face-to-face, but not every day.
I’m in Michigan and I’m so sad to hear this. Too much government sticking their hands into small businesses.😢
Please write in and ask that these laws be changed, and get 20 of your friends to do so! We want to serve you and provide healthy nutritious food right from our farms!
That's exactly what they dont want@@ErinOBrien-io9qm
@@ErinOBrien-io9qm which law that she violated should be changed? You don't want to put an address on a product so officials could trace cases of food borne illnesses to the source? What's so wrong with these regulations?
@@thefeministagenda9544that is not why she didn’t put the address on the label. I completely understand her reasoning for not putting it on them. They are buying from her farm stand in her front yard- it may be one of the things they add if they continue next season. Get off your soap box.
@@ziegenvinehomestead so? Why would you think buying it in front of her farm would negate the need for labeling?
I feel so sad for you because the joy the farm stand brought you was very visible. Perhaps a booth in a community farmer's market is the way to go. The calmness you have displayed during this video reinforces your character. Thank you for sharing and for being a positive example for all to witness.
I am in SE Michigan, I stop at farm stands all spring, summer and fall. I buy my eggs every week from one. I've never seen a person! I think someone made specific complaints against you for some reason and looked at the Cottage laws while they were doing it. I'm so sorry this happened! Your stand is beautiful! I hope you figure something out AND that Michigan isn't getting even crazier they better not take away my farm stands!!
Have it open for specific hours during the week and do the sales face-to-face if that is a main requirement. Maybe even have a volunteer to be present during some of the times the stand is open. Do not give up. Your Farmstand is awesome!!!!
It’s un-American and wrong! Laws so strict many don’t bother. Which is what they want. Ok, I’ll be quiet now. Just frustrating
It isn't un-American to have basic laws to protect consumers and producers.
@@thefeministagenda9544. “Basic laws” by whose definition yours! Oh plzzzzz govt needs to pay attention to all the crap going on and stay out of our business! It is UN American!
Yes, I have to be quiet right now, it's government control again
I am guessing that most of these laws spring from a time that didn't have the technology we do today. People got sick and someone probably died and the government reacted by creating a law that restricted that thing that caused the incident in the first place. What needs to happen is to go back and question those laws. If they are truly outdated and are no longer needed, then the state legislature needs to change the law.
@@thefeministagenda9544please wake up! I assume ur the one who ratted her out
I'm in Michigan. I'm also hardcore anti-big government. This is infuriating. I'm so sorry Rachel.
You certainly handled that with a lot more grace than I would have!
You’re so precious! I know that God will continue to direct you and honor you’re humble response. I believe this will turn into a blessing for you. There are other avenues and I believe He will open doors for you. Abundant Blessings
I’m sorry to hear this. It’s a shame that these cottage laws have so much interpretation to deal with. I hope you find a way to reopen and this is just a bump in the road and not a complete road block.
This is what our government wants. Please vote people to BRING OUR FARMERS BACK....even the ones like her who are keeping people healthy. Fight on. So sad. ❤
I am in Michigan and I see farmstands all over the that are not face-to-face sales .. I wonder if there’s was nearby person that is in competition with you that reported you?
Inspectors don't drive around hunting for issues. They rely on the snitch. And snitching is being quietly pushed more and more. In fact, some areas, it's loudly encouraged.
@@paularunyan8588Exactly!! Some scumbag is overly jealous since they couldn't do what Rachel is doing!! I hope she gets it back up n running!!
Keep going
Also, we used to have a raw milk dairy near us. It was amazing. And then a pregnant woman consumed raw milk, got sick (what knows what caused the sickness) and then reported them and shut this small family farm down. Seriously, people have lost their minds.
Yes they truly have. We can’t even share raw milk w people because of this right here. So sad.
It’s amazing how I can (by law) go have an abortion but the law says I cannot drink natural raw milk! WTH 🤦🏼♀️
You have to do herd shares to sell raw milk. I personally think it’s a flex on the Dairy industry’s part. We would have more small family dairies of all kinds if the consumer was trusted to process this milk like they are trusted to process thier pork purchase
@@ErinOBrien-io9qm you are probably right about the dairy industry.
@@t.k159 Really? That's not true in many states!
I stopped by from bay city and I think your stand is amazing, don’t give up, adapt and keep going, in the end that person who was miserable enough to complain will be miserable that their tactics didn’t work.💜
Where would we be without the government protecting us? This has to change. What’s with no self-serve, when most fast food restaurants, banks, etc. encourage customers to order at their kiosk? Common sense needs to prevail.
I’m from the government and I’m here to help . More overreach . Pennsylvania is doing it to the Amish community . Good luck ,God Bless
I've seen a couple videos about those Amish farmers. It is sad.
It is so sad how much she blames herself. All the same people probably voted in their liberal government. Big government , expect more of the same.
I have a friend who does a farm stand and she has a motion ringer that goes off whenever a customer walks up to her stand. She has the stand open on days when she's doing things around the house and can hear it. She picks her days "open" as her work days and has them on the same days every week.
Blessings to you ❤
I like how you offered a solution instead of going down the road my brain was headed.
Maybe post certain days open with certain hours
And yet no one was accountable for Covid. Sorry but I am just so frustrated by this. Thanks for all you do, For those of us trying to learn you are a true blessing.
That's B.S.! Now that explains what happened to my honey guy's stand! But you can buy at the store with the zillion recalls! Govt has too much power!
Such a shame😢
@@whitecreekhomestead6277 I mean, labeling the food with the producer would enable recalls of her product if something went wrong. The ability to recall products is a good thing.
I’m so sorry…but you really do have the greatest attitude going forward. I love you sharing your recipes and techniques in the kitchen. I have learned so much from you and I would have been a loyal customer if I lived in your area! It will all work out, I am confident of that! ❤
It’s a sad day in America when you cannot even have a roadside stand this is horrible. What has our country come to?
Communism
As my grandmother would say, "going to he.. in a hand basket!"
@@hastycontemplationso close, this is late stage capitalism
So sad. You seem sad also. But remember, when one door closes, another will open. God bless!!
Amen to this comment right here! ^^
What the enemy means for evil God turns around for good. Keep the good attitude, pray over the direction to go and let the Lord lead. His path is never wrong.
It’s not just your state. I had one come by my store just looking around like a peeper, never said who they were just being weird till I questioned her. Someone made a complaint, but I had all my paperwork in order and she changed her attitude quick. One thing I’ve discovered in my situation is no one in the office will tell you what you can and can’t do, but they sure can tell you what you are doing wrong once you start. I do hope that you get it worked out. I guarantee you there are people that appreciate what you do!
I'm so sorry Rachel...❤❤❤blessings to you
They're in every aspect of our lives PERIOD and they're growing government every day for more power and control
They certainly don't want us to be enterprising.
Snowflake
And people still think America is a free country. Think about it, people can make the choice to go have their private parts cut off, but they can’t choose what they put into their own bodies. Let that sink in America.
Totally agree..
Control the food. Control the people.
We're becoming a communist country.
Like China.. 😡
Same thing is happening here in Canada.
Exchange gifts. Don’t sell.
yanasa tv has been covering all of this, esp ranchers being shut down
i tell everyone to follow him
he and his wife do great reporting
I really admire you and your attitude toward this whole event, Rachel. I hope you are not done as well. 🇨🇦
It's called botulism retard.
Call your salsa “chunky tomato jam” 😂
Praying that all works out & hope you get to reopen your stand next year! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge and your farm with us 😊
I live in Michigan as well. We have a person who sells at the farmers market and anytime they hear about someone they think is taking away from their profit they reposrt them until they get shutdown.
Rolling my eyes!!! It’s the government!! They don’t want us to survive on our own. You calmed me down though Rachel as you talked about it. It still makes me mad. I can’t shop there as I’m in Arkansas but I would so love to shop your goodies. I pray it works out! Much love and prays to you and Todd.
Or they want food and safety regulations to limit botulism. Food for thought.
If you don’t like it then I suggest you leave
@@mw3309 does an inspector from the government check over every meal you make?...are you still alive?
Rachel you are such a Class Act!!
I feel confident that good things are coming your way 🙏
Patricia
I have a home cottage food business and yes, that’s the law here in Florida too. Proper labeling that includes (your address, description, ingredients, and amount), it’s have to be face to face, no shipping, only you can deliver or sell, no one else, no online ordering. Also stuff like jams and jellies, you cannot leave at your stand, or under the sun outside. Mine is a cookie shop, that’s a different than yours but rules are kind of the same, sorry for the bad experience you had! 😢
Interesting. I guess gov overreach is all over US
Much the same here in OH, I use to do cakes and cookies.
Good and Informative comment.
Govern me harder daddy
I am so very sorry this has happened to you & your family. Please do not give up. I will pray that you will find a way to work this all out!! 🌻🍁🍄
It’s one thing to have laws that protect our health however instead these laws are at the behest of large corporate interest.
Protect out health? Have u seen what's in supermarket food hahahha that made me lol. They dont gaf about our health they just want here their grimey hands in everything we do!
BINGO!! Today farmers are telling President Trump why they are failing to thrive. It's all on purpose. People are much worse off over these last 4 years and getting worse, not better. Anyone who can't see that, is walking blindly into the enemies trap. 🐏
I’m sorry Rachel! That stinks☹️. I hope you can find a path to share your creations. Don’t give up & keep us posted
I'm sorry you've had to shut down your farm stand Rachel. I'm glad you're not giving up though. Maybe if you reopen you can include some cute T-shirts that say "A lot of what I want to do is illegal"!😅
Yeah, just "sell" merch on your stand, that's not regulated. And give away the food free. Like this: buy 1 T-Shirt, get a free 8oz jar of jelly! You can figure the rest out from there.
I'm so sorry you had to close your stand. There are so many kill-joys out in this world. Hopefully, you'll find a way to get your stand up and running next year. ❤
Oh, that's too bad. Your farm stand is so inviting. I would patronize it happily if I could. Maybe it will all work out again.
I live in Colorado and was selling jams, jellies and pickles under cottage laws at farmers markets for awhile, so I completely understand what you are going through. I did all the classes too, the requirements are overwhelming. After 2 years, I ended up closing it down because I was getting too big for the cottage laws and I couldn’t navigate all the requirements and laws to expand on my own. It was either invest several thousands of dollars to expand or close it down. It was devastating.
Michigan is getting far too out of line with all these regulations.
Actually this is a loosening of regulations and Florida is more restrictive. Every state has thier own laws over health and safety because those are state rights. If you want to change it, you have to demand your state expand the cottage food options
Time to set up a weekly porch sale, with specific hours
What a bummer, indeed! Thank you for addressing it with calmness and grace and using this experience as a teaching moment for all of us. I love that you are looking to working with the inspector as a partner, vs bashing the government even though there are a lot of things we don't agree with. I know you are SO busy, but could you take your show on the road to a farmer's market or craft show? Keep up the great work in all the things you do!
It’s so sad! 😞 Control the food, control the people.
I'm sorry, rachel.I know you were doing a beautiful thing
I know of a veteran who had a couple of project cars in his yard.A messy neighbor called building inspector on this veteran.The least our country could've done was let a hero have his cars.Prayers on your situation.
Uh huh. He’s a veteran he should know to follow the rules.
Geeze this isnt surprising. They're coming after all of us.
World Economic communist agenda
I’m sorry this happened… your farm stand was beautiful and well cared for ❤
Oh my gosh😢 i am really disheartened for you. I love that Todd suggested that you take a moment before you video’d ❤. And your prayerfelt approach moving forward is an inspiration and a showing of your belief in God
I hope your farm stand isn't over either. My partner and I were talking future vacations and actually included visiting your farm stand on our journey. Because you are who you are - always so balanced - I look forward to how you manage this unwelcome speedbump in your first retirement year. I wish it wasn't happening to you.
Diddly Squat farms in the UK had to go through hoops to sell their own product. It's worth the watch on Prime.
Yeah and he’s a multi millionaire, even that didn’t help
So sorry you are going through this. I know you both put a lot of time and effort into the farm stand. I’m sure the majority of the community appreciated it; it seems there is always THE ONE. Take time to regroup but don’t give up. Where there is a will there is a way. What advice would you give your kids if they were in this situation? You and Todd are strong and I can’t wait to see you guys reflecting on this moment years down the road.
Not fair, screw the local Gov't.
Tenth amendment.
True story: I moved from a big city to a suburb to work from home so I could homeschool my daughter who was struggling in school (this was 25 years ago and I was a single mom). I registered my business as a piano teacher with the county, and taught children and adults Monday thru Friday after school hours in my living room. This worked out beautifully bc I was a classically trained musician who studied with a music professor my entire childhood, and grew up in a von trap type family. LOL. One day, I received a letter from the local tax man, claiming I owed taxes based on the inventory value of my home studio. Mind you, my net income at the time was paltry at $9,000 per year after paying federal taxes, and had given up a huge salary as a FT computer engineer. After certified letters went back and forth, I was told I needed to pay taxes on the music lesson books I maintained inside the residence, since it was considered inventory. I sent a spreadsheet of the value of my well-worn beloved music books to the official, wherein the owed tax came to approximately $1. LOL. I never heard back from him after that. 🧐
More government overreach!
Nah.
There is alot of this type of stuff going on in our state of Michigan co ops getting closed down for raw milk and butter and made to throw it all in thentrash I wouldnt have been so nice about it .😮 I'm glad you're contacting the inspector and hope it all works out. very sad 😢
It's disappointing that you received the letter. However, it appears that there are a few things you can do about it to get your adorable stand up and running again. I appreciate that you are having a mature response to the enforcement of safety regulations in your county. Not everyone is as responsible about their products as you are, so it's understandable that health standards need to be in place. I hope 🙏🏼 it goes well for you. Thanks for sharing this video.
This makes me so sad for you all 😢 and our country in a wider lense… need to return to our roots. Your response is truly gracious…
Hoping you are able to collaborate with local officials & restart your retirement hobby ❤
I can see why they want “face to face”. Someone could come to your stand and put something on it that you did not make. It is getting really creepy out there who knows.
Yes that makes sense but I am thinking the same could happen in a grocery store, where do you draw the line? I saw someone holding a fork eating out of the salad bar at a grocery store once, another taking food and eating from dry food bins, and another munching on grapes as she shopped. It looked to me like all of her items were sealed. 14:50
Good point I never thought of.
I hope it works out.
I always try to support roadside stands and farmers markets
Start a campaign for food sovereignty. We have that in my town and the state of Maine adopted it finally.
Oh! I like that. I'm a huge advocate in my township in MI as I can't handle how even the local government doesn't protect organic farmers.
I am so sorry to see this. Keeping you in prayers.
It’s crazy how different cottage laws are state to state. But it’s good information and advice for those of us who are looking to do a farm stand on things to look out for. Sorry you had to go through this and thank you for sharing.
You're definitely not the "throw the towel in" type of person. You'll find a way to work within the limits. Keep fighting the good fight. God bless.
So sorry. We live in California. My olive oil friend has to sell out side her building because she bottles oil inside. (She now uses the porch overhang)She had a cute table and shelf on the other side of the wall where they bottle. Not allowed. And she can’t have bread to sample the oil, that’s serving food. They needed an “act of congress” to put in a flush toilet. They were expected to have an out house for themselves, an employee or customers. The laws here are oppressive if you are a small operator. And the taxes are crippling. Another friend who sells jam and jelly at events has made a sticker that says “all food prepared and bottled in my home kitchen.” SorryRachel. I love your recipes
I’m so sorry to hear this Rachel but don’t give up, reach out to the inspector and get some guidance as to overcoming the issues at hand.
I’m in west michigan. My husband and I were doing a mental count of several
Stands that are probably not in compliance. I wonder if someone reported you or if it’s because you had a public forum. Otherwise you may have gone unnoticed. Either way God had a plan and his plan is always best. So sorry because we could see the excitement and joy this stand brought you!
I am so proud of you and the way you are handling this situation. I have also enjoyed following your journey with your farmstand and everything else you endeavor to do; you ARE such are an inspiration!! Never let mean spirited people dull your sparkle!!
I'm idaho and we are kinda blessed on our laws. But even better we have a barter group that we attend meet-ups and we have a Facebook group. I am bartering all the time. Might be a thing you could do in your area!
Prayers
So sorry. I hope everything works out so you can get it back up and running. I know it is something that brought you joy. Have a blessed week.
I'm sorry to hear that Rachel. I was looking forward to seeing how well you would do ❤.
I am sorry to hear that. Best of luck when you talk to the inspector. Hope you can reopen it. I see stands all over the place here. Many are self serve. Your set up looked amazing. Sorry to hear there were those complained - just jealous.
You know what I find sad the most out of this whole situation is that you can easily see it's not the inspector that's the problem. A member of their community instead of just simply going to them and saying, "Hey, love what you're doing, but to my knowledge, there are some problems with your stand that I believe are in violation. Would you mind if I shared them with you?" This simple opening to conversation would have allowed Todd and Rachel to then talk to their governing agency. I am sure they would have corrected what was wrong and things that were not they would have some information for that concerned citizen to explain why they are doing what they are. Why can't we just talk to each other instead of being jealous, or scared of each other? It's so sad.
Jealous of what exactly
But Rachel knew what was wrong before she even got the letter. Some of those rules are ridiculous IMO, but she knew she was breaking them so I don’t think a conversation would have helped. For example, the label. She knew she had to put her address. She did not. The face to face. She said it was open to interpretation but then said if you read all the way down it is clear. Again, rules might be absurd, but she knew she was breaking them. And she wasn’t fine or cited, so that’s a good thing.
Hi Rachel, sorry to here about the farm stand 😢.Sending big hugs from Australia , I'm sure you both can sort it out .
I'm so sorry. You really put your heart and soul into it. Hoping you can open again soon!!
Aww Rachael. Just hearing the sadness in your voice breaks my heart. I mean you and becky from acre homestead are the reason I started preserving food and gardening... so keep your head up. God bless you and yours
Hi Rachel. I feel bad that things had to come to this. The laws in the States is crazy, but we all have to go by them at all cost. Rachel, you are a trooper and a wonderful woman and don't you forget it Sweet Heart ❤️. God Bless you and hope you can do it next year. HUGS 🤗. Mari'a. 🤗❤️🤗❤️👍👍👍👍👋👋👋💕💕💕🍂🍁🍂🍁
So sorry to hear this! Just a thought....what about a driveway alarm to notify you that a customer is at the stand so that you could go and be face to face with your customers?
I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m with you, I try to be a law abiding citizen but I also feel like that is up to me as a consumer to decide if it s safe for me. In Texas we have folks sitting in lawn chairs selling tamales and I am like no way! I think it’s a great idea to speak to the inspector and see where you can find a path.
I think you handled this beautifully Rachel. I would be heartbroken and I know it hurts you. Keep thinking about what you can do, talk with Todd and be creative, within the laws, and you will still be able to fill your creative need with the farm stand. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Best of luck!
I feel like you shared some edifying information, like classes that may be offered by extension office or who ever in a state may be in charge as you put it. I would not had realized to research or where to potentially search such information. I also appreciate your humble approach realizing simply you may need to simply have a conversation to define interpretation. With so many people defensive about so many political topics, it is a good reminder it simply starts with a conversation where we can all grow by. So thank you for sharing. I hope you discover some happy resolutions ❤
I had the same thought. She shared things I never knew about.
Awe..... sad !! Hope you can continue. Prayers for continued grace Sure hope you choose to continue with your sweet farm stand.
Prayers, God’s got this!!!
I’m sorry Rachel about your stand. I know how hard you worked and how enjoyable it was for you. All the things going on in this country and this is what we spend our time on (shutting the stand down ) geez!!!
😢I am so very sorry this is happening to you. I hope you can reopen!
So sorry. I’ll pray that this is all resolvable by spring.