"riding style" was a common theme in this video. They are all so good and yet so different having their own individual identities. For us mortals tho just pick the one you like the best and ride the hell out of it.
With Honda and Ducati coming with V4s soon and Kawasaki and BMW having been facelifting their bikes for years now the next couple of years are bright and we can see a bunch of all new bikes soon
Honda is not coming with a V4 anytime soon. They wrecked their entire VFR line up. A base model CBR with no ABS is more expensive than the entire Japanese Line Up. You're crazy if you think Honda is putting a V4 up anytime soon. Ducati is in the Process of potentially being sold off.... With HD the most potential buyer right now.
9:30 Bimmer is Old Reliable? I know they maxed out the K5 Concept, but wow the Japanese and Italians had such a head start in Superbikes 7yrs later im still in awe.
For me the enjoyment factor is what determines value for money with motorcycles. Some people enjoy commuting or social riding on a Super Sport bike and never take it to the track but they still get the maximum value for their money. Choose one that fits your riding style (BMW for me) and go have fun!
Finally a Honda at the top with BMW & the small Aprilia & finally the bad ass Suzuki...the best year ever to pick any of those magnificent machines depending on your budget.
2017 CBR1000RR was the top pick of most experts in this video. It is also by far the best looking litre bike of the moment(better still than fat panigale v4).
You can't go wrong with any of them. Except the EBR. For me - since I have an s1000r - the BMW with those light forged wheels is the most appealing. Good review. Another vid with a complete lap on each would be nice.
I’m loving my euro spec ZX10r, especially the usual pipe and flash have being done, but I’m looking for a second bike and I’m tossing between the R1m or the S1000rr
Someone needs to start doing these shootouts but based on the second hand market pricing on 5-8 year old models - Like whats the best bike to buy now 6-8K in todays market
BMW won't give you a $16,000 bike because contrary to what their website says, they do not make a $16,000 bike. Every one I have ever seen at a dealer has been $19,000.
yeah good luck finding spares once their inventory is sold out to buyers. Unlike the Japanese bike from say 2 decades ago that still have a large spare parts inventory from many parts of Asia, you would be hard pressed to find replacement parts for the EBR in say about 5 years from now.
From Motomummy, "So far multiple crashes from a few riders and all are stating the bike had issues. Guy martin even stated "it's box full of neutrals"." Which is what I've heard elsewhere, a lot of false neutrals. drivetribe.com/p/dggbbOF5T26tx7b2dretww?iid=X5te3i_1RYibMNJs_3pD1w
The EBR struggled on the track because it doesn't come stock with a slipper clutch. Not having a slipper clutch is a huge handicap. Mid corner and corner exit it's probably the best bike out there but into the corner under hard brakes the rear wheel will lock up making it very difficult to push to its limit.
I wish Honda would put more performance in the engine. It seems like Honda puts all of it's apple's in the mid range, then runs out of breath at top in.
Or save 10k and buy k5 gsxr 1000 with more usable power every where in the rpm .new bikes have no power bellow 6k like anything made before 2006 and I must say I'm glad I bought a k6 as it's low power at 2k is more fun and doesn't feel held back just raw power
I'd like to see a comparison of those bikes uncorked. On paper their power output is much closer than whan those numbers are showing. You can see on their dyno graph how the top end of the japanese bikes taper off way before red line, which is much less pronounced on the euro spec bikes. Makes me wonder how BMW and Aprilia managed to pass US sound regulations and still keep the top end untouched.
Good content, really well made video. But that EBR on the test makes no sense. And I really don't understand why nobody brings the MV F4 to this tests.
Nayr Nitsua i have an 11 aprc factory se from new aprilia in my country is the only bike dealership which gives 4 yrs guarantee engine ecu brakes gearbox. Mine at the moment has 23.000km so i got me.a used k12.1000.for daily😂. the only issue of the rsv4 bike is extremely hot frames(city ride) on highway and b roads she is a thunderstorm cool and so fun soooo they didnt really made factory and rf for city ... lol figures right? the other big issue is fried ecu but i got mine instead replaced with the original replaced with the aprilia full race ecu and the bike is two times faster and two times more reliable. V4 is a riding sound experience i believe any rider should have at least once in his life. For me rsv4 factory is the best and more engine reliable bike so far i ever had/have. is a connection like no.other...And i had many... really so many bikes...
no these twits have never been fair when it comes to ebr any time someone says something good they immediately get guided or shot down. the Honda may be a great motorcycle but didn't the Kawasaki get the same type of make over with 50% of the coverage. these guys are bias towards 1 bike and no other will compare.
THE HONDER JUST FEELS RIGHT!!! Im trying to tell you guys. You could wiggle your ass around knee down mid corner and the bike would just be like LOL WUT?! and be as stable as if you were Marquez or Pedrosa. The weight is so low in the chassis its like putting a hot knife through butter. Im sure a good mapping will bring out 8-10hp and atleast 5tq at the expense of linearity of the drive by throttle. Not to mention a high flow filter and catless exhaust.
Adam Taylor She's very smooth compared to when I had my 08 Blade. The power kicks in differently. My 08, when you WOT it's just instant power vs my 17. The 17 feels more like a Vtec lol. But by it being so smooth and the way it kicks in is thrilling!! As with any sport bike you're going to be a little beat up after a long ride. So far I've taken her on a 5 1/2hrs trip. My ass and knees were sore. But my butt sores easily and my job had my knees previously beat up. She's very nimble too!!!
driven the honda and aprilia, both make you feel more confident with amazing chassis although aprilia has better chassis, and brakes. the fueling on honda with throttle e wheel connection is sublime. sound and looks aprilia wins by a country mile. gearbox honda is more refined. people look for different things when riding so depending on what your preference is, is the bike you enjoy the most.
Channing Kraemer Nice to see another forum member chiming in. It's a shame that they just glanced past the EBR. I don't have first hand experience on an EBR, but my Uly handles like nothing else. Let's hope Erik can prove us wrong and we'll get to see the AX and the sub $10k 2018 model on the streets someday.
Channing Kraemer EBR has always been one of my favorite bike. But competition has moved on. And now sadly people look forward to have the safety net of TC and ABS etc especially on the track . I have always been fond of the bikes like the old blade, old gixxers etc. Then I heard about EBR and found it very likable. But then these European bikes came and spoiled us with everything.
This isn't fair coz there is no top end models like the RSV4 RF,Yamaha R1M and ofcourse the Suzuki GSXR1000R which got way way way more electtonics than std GSxR 1000 ...arguably one of the best track bike
both guy martin and John mcguinness crashed out on the Hondas during NW200 (jm) isle of man (gm)on the new Fireblade due to throttle sticking and getting stuck in neutral ... Hopefully the cause was because of modifications
Throttle never stuck. No idea where you got that from. John claimed it felt like it was stuck. The aggressive quickshift and throttle settings the team put in caused the issue. The bike was run in WSBK with no issues at all. If you modify any settings beyond stock don't expect it to run like a stock bike.
I have an Aprilia. no issues. I have 50,000 miles on her.. half of them on the track. haters gonna hate. not one real owner has a negative comment about the reliability.
why no ninja zx10rr or h2? isnt it flagship comparison? thank god you guys didn't take ninja z1000sx cause it is a litre class superbike too but incomparable with others , cmon man! whats your problem with kawasaki? every year it comes last although its a SBK winning superbike!
yeah. KTM Ceo Stefan Pierer said there's no point of making fast road bikes because they "kill people" and are too dangerous and overpowered for the streets. Their MOTOGP replica v4 production bike will most likely be track legal only.
I don't know why you have that problem. I know Google Chrome supports 4K playback. I am not sure if that is your problem or if it was youtube. This is definitely 4K. I can assure you of that.
I love the S1000RR, but damn Euro 4 has sucked power compared to the 15/16 model. Looks like it's lost around 10hp at the wheel! Hopefully, the midrange is better.
Love seeing some old guys out there. Makes me look forward to in the future.
You guys should review the R1M, RSV4 RF, Anniversario and H2 for the odd ball that would be awesome! Kudos for the film and audio editor too!
All these guys are awesome. Loved the video.
I've always been a fan of the s1000rr and the rsv 4 but Man...that Honda tho! The Suzuki is a great deal too. 🤔 So many great bikes to choose from. 😬
So the Brazzers guy is even a racer now!
"riding style" was a common theme in this video. They are all so good and yet so different having their own individual identities. For us mortals tho just pick the one you like the best and ride the hell out of it.
S1000RR is still my favorite compared to the rest!
1. yamaha r1
2. aprillia
3. kawasaki zx10r
ZX10R will be mine one day!!
Onedayilbeok that day has finally came for me bro just brought myself a 16 plate winter edition 💚
With Honda and Ducati coming with V4s soon and Kawasaki and BMW having been facelifting their bikes for years now the next couple of years are bright and we can see a bunch of all new bikes soon
IKR I hope honda brings the rc v4 from the gp moto bikes
what is that? I heard about it.
Daniel Maia The Ducati with its v twin convincingly beats these as it stands now.
Honda's been coming out with a V4 soon for at least 8 years now.
Honda is not coming with a V4 anytime soon. They wrecked their entire VFR line up. A base model CBR with no ABS is more expensive than the entire Japanese Line Up. You're crazy if you think Honda is putting a V4 up anytime soon.
Ducati is in the Process of potentially being sold off.... With HD the most potential buyer right now.
Rip EBR :( you will be missed, the dream of an american made sportsbike will continue
Nick5220 - lol
😂😂
9:30 Bimmer is Old Reliable? I know they maxed out the K5 Concept, but wow the Japanese and Italians had such a head start in Superbikes 7yrs later im still in awe.
For me the enjoyment factor is what determines value for money with motorcycles. Some people enjoy commuting or social riding on a Super Sport bike and never take it to the track but they still get the maximum value for their money. Choose one that fits your riding style (BMW for me) and go have fun!
I love Suzuki bikes because Suzuki bikes is heart touching bikes
Balwant Singh Tech Review Suzuki
super.i. love.you.suzuki
#1!!!!!!
What does this mean ?
Finally a Honda at the top with BMW & the small Aprilia & finally the bad ass Suzuki...the best year ever to pick any of those magnificent machines depending on your budget.
BMW S1000rr & ZX10rr are the ones to own.
Earlier, you guys weighed the Fireblade at Portimao with a full tank and it was 425lbs. How come now it's 433 lbs? Which is it?
Kudos to you for bringing the ebr.
Please do not forget them in the future!!!
Love my Aprilia, best of both worlds. Had last gen cbr1000rr, great bike but the aprilia is a beast in comparison
stoked for the new gsxr1000, fireblade, and zx10r!!!!
jdwm rode the gsxr and holy cow is it narrow and feels so light!
Its all about the GSXR1000R!
They're all great bikes,glad that I'm not the only one who understands it !
Wish you guys would do one with all the bikes flashed with a slipon system!
Just awesome reviews! good job guy's!
my 1st pick is BMW just because it have analog rpm meter.
arif rifz yep mee too. i Don't like TFT displays like its bike not a TV
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im glad my 2016 tuono came with the old tach, tft for everything else is fine but i want analog rpm
iTxip Ride safe out there : )
2017 CBR1000RR was the top pick of most experts in this video.
It is also by far the best looking litre bike of the moment(better still than fat panigale v4).
Can you give a specific brand name for a hypersport tire and sport road tire for a 06 honda cbr rr. 600 thx mario. Mon 12:00 am
Your best video!!!
You can't go wrong with any of them. Except the EBR. For me - since I have an s1000r - the BMW with those light forged wheels is the most appealing. Good review. Another vid with a complete lap on each would be nice.
CBR1000 FU*KING DOUBLE ARRRRR!!! YEAH!!
CycleCruza my man your honda cbr is ancient compared to this 2017 model, relax.
sammyboi 072 broooo you need to chill before telling someone else to relax
Kurt Phillips im just saying bro
buy it, buy it, buy it😂
hahaha
I’m loving my euro spec ZX10r, especially the usual pipe and flash have being done, but I’m looking for a second bike and I’m tossing between the R1m or the S1000rr
For sure GSX-R the best of them all.
beautiful video that kawasaki is absolutely beautiful. if you guys ever need to delegate editing work hit me up.
Ashton Zee agreed im bias because i own a ninja.
Someone needs to start doing these shootouts but based on the second hand market pricing on 5-8 year old models - Like whats the best bike to buy now 6-8K in todays market
You can't go wrong with these motorcycles, it's all about personal preference.
I love GSXR Livery!!!!!!!!!!!
why S1000RR instead of Hp4? Hp4 is more light weight and more compatible.
Traction control? Where's the fun in tracking a liter bike if you never get thrown off in a violent high-side?
auto blip vs quick shift, whos the best?
can you buy the new gixer for 14k in the US? here in Sweden it costs 20k. BMW is cheaper than both suzuki and honda. EBR -14 costs around 14k
Good review. I still don't understand why anyone would want one of these for street riding instead of a super standard.
Those bikes have around 200hp, how come only about 160-170 in this video? Couse for US market?
nuskox they're measuring wheel hp in the video rather than crank horsepower.
jtpro0244 Ah yes, i forgot about that. Thanks :)
nuskox no problem man
Keeping my 08 Blade. Sans electronics but still a blast round the track and road.
Bobby Backmarker me to brother love my 08 blade
Bobby Backmarker Definitely getting me another 08. But for now I'm going to enjoy my 17.
what happened to the R1, at times felt as if it was not existing in the group.
BMW won't give you a $16,000 bike because contrary to what their website says, they do not make a $16,000 bike. Every one I have ever seen at a dealer has been $19,000.
or you could walk to said dealer... and say you want a base one and pay up and wait
Mitch Young Most enthusiast cars are the same way. You can always order one in the configuration you want.
No MV Agusta?
Why would u not include the R1M
So, no EBR comparison?
EBR is out of business.
I know. But I still would like to see what they thought compared to the other bikes.
it's to analog most of these old farts need all the electronic assistance they can get. I don't care if EBR is out of business I'm in love with mine!
Brad Brad yup
yeah good luck finding spares once their inventory is sold out to buyers. Unlike the Japanese bike from say 2 decades ago that still have a large spare parts inventory from many parts of Asia, you would be hard pressed to find replacement parts for the EBR in say about 5 years from now.
Their all awesome bikes ,great review guys ,over here in Australia the Yamaha isn't restricted and has a faster top speed than the BMW
Guess the US haven't heard about all the problems of the Fireblade.
What problems?
What are the problems with the bike?
you mean the isle of man TT problems?
From Motomummy, "So far multiple crashes from a few riders and all are stating the bike had issues. Guy martin even stated "it's box full of neutrals"." Which is what I've heard elsewhere, a lot of false neutrals.
drivetribe.com/p/dggbbOF5T26tx7b2dretww?iid=X5te3i_1RYibMNJs_3pD1w
I'll be interested to see how people find the honda in the long term
The EBR struggled on the track because it doesn't come stock with a slipper clutch. Not having a slipper clutch is a huge handicap. Mid corner and corner exit it's probably the best bike out there but into the corner under hard brakes the rear wheel will lock up making it very difficult to push to its limit.
The Japanese bikes are in stock restricted US form right?
A chassis wiz?
I wish Honda would put more performance in the engine. It seems like Honda puts all of it's apple's in the mid range, then runs out of breath at top in.
Wooohoo!! The honda wins baby!
US spec ZX10 is shit, try a Euro spec with 191 rwhp than you will see
so is CBR, it again has retarded timing after cca 11k
meh. a full system and a tune and either spec will be around 200 rwhp
It's been a toss up for me between BMW, CBR, R1.....jeeeez!!!!! Track will be a treat at least 2 times a year!
Why no laps time comparisons???
Cambell Reynolds probably because the honda times didn't back the advert?
That's a long story explained in the article linked at the end of the video.
I also went there initially after this to see the additional stats but because there were no laps times I closed it before reading it all.
Or save 10k and buy k5 gsxr 1000 with more usable power every where in the rpm .new bikes have no power bellow 6k like anything made before 2006 and I must say I'm glad I bought a k6 as it's low power at 2k is more fun and doesn't feel held back just raw power
Should put the rc8r in there to compare with the ebr 😌
Why not Ducati 1299 Panigale S and MV Agusta F4
No MV F4?
I'd like to see a comparison of those bikes uncorked.
On paper their power output is much closer than whan those numbers are showing. You can see on their dyno graph how the top end of the japanese bikes taper off way before red line, which is much less pronounced on the euro spec bikes.
Makes me wonder how BMW and Aprilia managed to pass US sound regulations and still keep the top end untouched.
153 hp seems low for the Honda, the old bike makes 160 in other countries.
Good content, really well made video. But that EBR on the test makes no sense. And I really don't understand why nobody brings the MV F4 to this tests.
Because MV doesn't have one yet in its USA fleet...
Vinicius Silva what doesn't make sense is that you think the ebr is inferior. turn off the rider aids and that ebr will prove the easiest to ride.
Winner 1 aprilia 2 bmw 3 Suzuki ? En castellano pliss!!
Aprilia all day!
Until it breaks down and you have to wrench on it all night!
Ruano09 That's counter to everything I've read on the RSV4, and good luck getting parts in the US. Their network is quite sparse.
Nayr Nitsua i have an 11 aprc factory se from new aprilia in my country is the only bike dealership which gives 4 yrs guarantee engine ecu brakes gearbox. Mine at the moment has 23.000km so i got me.a used k12.1000.for daily😂. the only issue of the rsv4 bike is extremely hot frames(city ride) on highway and b roads she is a thunderstorm cool and so fun soooo they didnt really made factory and rf for city ... lol figures right?
the other big issue is fried ecu but i got mine instead replaced with the original replaced with the aprilia full race ecu and the bike is two times faster and two times more reliable. V4 is a riding sound experience i believe any rider should have at least once in his life. For me rsv4 factory is the
best and more engine reliable bike so far i ever had/have. is a connection like no.other...And i had many... really so many bikes...
Nayr Nitsua AF1 has all you need
sector 1000 I have major ECU issues with my 2013. Wh n you replaced your ECU it fixed the issues?
R1 is 🔥 beast
Why not use the ZX-10RR?
Kawasaki doesn't have one for testing, sorry.
+Kevin Duke Ahh I see. Thanks for clarifying.
GSX JUOSSSS TENAN man!!
took the ebr praiser out behind the woodshed. so I wonder how much did Honda pay for you guys to advertise for them?
Ok so bmw wins and everyones happy but when honda wins everyone says they paid?! Can't you just be happy the fact that honda made a great bike?
no these twits have never been fair when it comes to ebr any time someone says something good they immediately get guided or shot down. the Honda may be a great motorcycle but didn't the Kawasaki get the same type of make over with 50% of the coverage. these guys are bias towards 1 bike and no other will compare.
3:57 the frontend of that new ducati though.....looks awesome
THE HONDER JUST FEELS RIGHT!!! Im trying to tell you guys. You could wiggle your ass around knee down mid corner and the bike would just be like LOL WUT?! and be as stable as if you were Marquez or Pedrosa. The weight is so low in the chassis its like putting a hot knife through butter.
Im sure a good mapping will bring out 8-10hp and atleast 5tq at the expense of linearity of the drive by throttle. Not to mention a high flow filter and catless exhaust.
P Body Loving my 17 CBR1000RR
My Man!!! *Denzel voice.
Kendrick H What's it like on the street, in traffic and the motorway? Could you see yourself touring on it?
Adam Taylor She's very smooth compared to when I had my 08 Blade. The power kicks in differently. My 08, when you WOT it's just instant power vs my 17. The 17 feels more like a Vtec lol. But by it being so smooth and the way it kicks in is thrilling!! As with any sport bike you're going to be a little beat up after a long ride. So far I've taken her on a 5 1/2hrs trip. My ass and knees were sore. But my butt sores easily and my job had my knees previously beat up. She's very nimble too!!!
Adam Taylor You will kinda forget you're on a 1000 just cause she's smooth lol. Fun street bike especially for anyone new to liter bikes.
why no ducati
driven the honda and aprilia, both make you feel more confident with amazing chassis although aprilia has better chassis, and brakes. the fueling on honda with throttle e wheel connection is sublime. sound and looks aprilia wins by a country mile. gearbox honda is more refined. people look for different things when riding so depending on what your preference is, is the bike you enjoy the most.
The CBR in second place nice! and BMW still number 1 not to many people vote for ZX-10R
How about - 1. BMW , 2. Aprilia , 3. R1
YEAH I KNEW THE FIREBLADE WOULD WIN! honda FTW!
How about acceleration test with the heaviest guy + most powerful bike vs lightest guy + the least powerful bike :D
Is MV Agusta dead?
They enjoy the sun so much.
No Ducati?
Good Reviews 👍🏻
GSXR is the most bike you get for your bank..
Actually the EBR is the most bang for your buck.....
Without the electronics?? I don't think so.. If you consider just street riding then yeah, I don't mind. But on the track its needed now.
Channing Kraemer Nice to see another forum member chiming in. It's a shame that they just glanced past the EBR. I don't have first hand experience on an EBR, but my Uly handles like nothing else. Let's hope Erik can prove us wrong and we'll get to see the AX and the sub $10k 2018 model on the streets someday.
Got to love that you think you need electronics. go ride the ebr and you'll see you don't need that extra crap. That bike was built around the rider.
Channing Kraemer EBR has always been one of my favorite bike. But competition has moved on. And now sadly people look forward to have the safety net of TC and ABS etc especially on the track . I have always been fond of the bikes like the old blade, old gixxers etc. Then I heard about EBR and found it very likable. But then these European bikes came and spoiled us with everything.
The previous Honda and Suzuki were 16-17K, now 22k+, that's a huge jump in price.
I'll still keep my R1😏
Todas são lindas mais a CBR e BMW são máquinas D+!!
This isn't fair coz there is no top end models like the RSV4 RF,Yamaha R1M and ofcourse the Suzuki GSXR1000R which got way way way more electtonics than std GSxR 1000 ...arguably one of the best track bike
Luv dat Fireblade!!!
So that means, they're all good. Just choose your color 😊
Shout out to Thai Long!!! and he's rocking the Puma one piece leather suit!
gsxr dark horse
S1KRR 💪💪💪💪💪
living phone tough umcynd pitcher regulation within judgment description option
both guy martin and John mcguinness crashed out on the Hondas during NW200 (jm) isle of man (gm)on the new Fireblade due to throttle sticking and getting stuck in neutral ... Hopefully the cause was because of modifications
Throttle never stuck. No idea where you got that from. John claimed it felt like it was stuck. The aggressive quickshift and throttle settings the team put in caused the issue. The bike was run in WSBK with no issues at all. If you modify any settings beyond stock don't expect it to run like a stock bike.
I have an Aprilia. no issues. I have 50,000 miles on her.. half of them on the track. haters gonna hate. not one real owner has a negative comment about the reliability.
why no ninja zx10rr or h2? isnt it flagship comparison? thank god you guys didn't take ninja z1000sx cause it is a litre class superbike too but incomparable with others , cmon man! whats your problem with kawasaki? every year it comes last although its a SBK winning superbike!
No RC8?
Didn't KTM chicken out of producing road legal superbikes last year?
Yep, KTM don't make sportbikes for consumers any more.
Whaaaaat? Are they just gonna focus on racing now?
yeah. KTM Ceo Stefan Pierer said there's no point of making fast road bikes because they "kill people" and are too dangerous and overpowered for the streets. Their MOTOGP replica v4 production bike will most likely be track legal only.
I love videos that say it's in 4k but when you go to quality it says 1080p. really? You that desperate for views?
I don't know why you have that problem. I know Google Chrome supports 4K playback. I am not sure if that is your problem or if it was youtube. This is definitely 4K. I can assure you of that.
Electro-light; symbolism at 15:48 for those that like this track
I love the S1000RR, but damn Euro 4 has sucked power compared to the 15/16 model. Looks like it's lost around 10hp at the wheel! Hopefully, the midrange is better.
15:30 throwing so serious shade at the ebr
I love cbr 1000rr
@6:10 "Great motor"??? You are now presenting a public bike show. Please use the correct term. It's not "Motor", it's an "Engine".