Shadow of the Erdtree Is Too Hard
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Elden Ring DLC Shadow of the Erdtree community criticism. The game is unfair and casual and won't let you fight the bosses. The boss design is garbage just like in the base game, and I'm tired of it all.
Don't worry brother you won't be missed in the next FromSoft game.
Funny i finished the dlc day 1 with light armour no shiled just a sword and incantations
You dont want to summon or cheese build or even make a build that counters the boss, like holy, vs death dragons ect. And you also dont wants to spend the time to master the "new" bosses moves. Idk what you want dude.
Yeah, no.
You're complaining and try to hide it behind ''valid critisism'' while blaming other players who appreciate the game.
There is no conversation to have here. Just get good or get out :)
You say shaming and gatekeeping is “ruining the soul of the game” as you cry about difficulty. Which is what is being gatekeept
Actually laughed out loud when i heard people were complaining abt difficulty, has to be kids born after 2010 and didnt grow up on souls cause DUDE
always the anime pfps
I've never once promoted a game by saying it will be better once other people get good. If a game is only good after its mastered, then the journey to mastery would presumably be terrible.
It's not a big deal, I'm right about this. People with lots of subs will make video essays about it and all the haters will change their mind. Most of these people telling me to git gud haven't even beaten the DLC and just project nonsense.
By the time they change their opinion it will be way too late. I've never played these games, but after doing a bit of research yesterday, I'm not convinced that I would enjoy the experience. All explanations of why the game is good basically boils down to learning how to embrace your inner masochist.
Don't let this video distract you from no hit boss runs existing
Didn't those players invest tons of hours to learn a boss moveset that is only meant to be frustrating and not fun? I think you missed 3:08 where he mentioned those kinda players. Not everyone wants a memorization game with no fun gimmicks while having a single r1 attack window after a 10 hit combo from the boss
@@doraafelfedezoofisol could always play a hand holding game like assassins creed..out a nice arrow on the ground to show you were to go. Big neon arrow over any enemy you're supposed to kill..and if mess up? Don't worry, the game will skip it for you and put it on easy mode.
I think, anyone who has issues with the games difficulty..shouldn't be playing a fromsoft game. It isn't a matter of gatekeeping or getting good, but the game is designed for people who WANT to spend hundreds of hours memorizing a bosses moveset....
So anyone complaining, the game isn't for you. Every other game is basically made to hold your hand and anyone could easily play that...
Who wants to enjoy some relax time playing a video game and chooses a fromsoft IP and runs to the internet to cry? Lmao
@@johnfinklestein6910 The game's problem is the fact that they achieved difficulty by giving more attacks to the bosses rather than being creative with it, Gael's attacks in ds 3 were magnificent,peak from soft,same with Artorias.
They achieved difficulty with modern bosses by adding more and more attacks with giving you less window to attacky which is lazy by design.
But wanna highlight that this does not mean all the bosses in the dlc are like this,but a noticeable amount of them are unfortunately.
Also you saying that people wanna memorize this is one thing,not everyone can like the aforementioned lazy way of achieving difficulty mentality, I will have the same mentality and if the boss is more lazy by design than fun I will trivialize them with a mimic tear and go next.
Rellana was like that for example, Gaius had the same fate along Radahn due to second phase being artifical diff increase.
@@doraafelfedezoofisol yea cus you totally cus jump or roll out of rellanas attacks. This isn't some raid boss in destiny, they didn't just raise the boss HP and damage just to up difficulty 😂😂
....your comment is seriously giving cancer vibes lmao
@@johnfinklestein6910 You have major comprehension issues,waste of time
From Soft gives you loads of options on how to play I don’t see what’s the big deal, from your “I want to fight the boss l, I want it to be over” if your an old player then you would understand that all the Dark Souls games and deamon souls game had hard bosses and you were given many tools on how to fight them and you can make it as “easy” or difficult as you want.
You sound like a guy who struggles with the game and doesn’t want to put effort into the Elden Ring and wants an easy mode.
Bottom line if you don’t like the game don’t play it!
it is a bold fucking stance to say from software sold out when the pig slop that is starfield just released not too long ago and is already forgotten. or you can just go look at dragon ages new disney game
from software doesn't give a shit about your feelings like other companies do. so do something about it and beat their game or accept that the machine/AI beat *you*
NO IT ISNT, YOU ARE A GOD DAMN FOOL. Selling out means caving in to mass market appeal to drive up sales, and this is EXACTLY what happened with ER. From games have been fundamentally misunderstood by the vast majority of people as being about the difficulty in of itself, when that was really just spice in their previous installments aside from the mess that is dark souls 2, and really just a souls clone because it wasnt even made by their A team. Fromsoft games are first and foremost about an engaging and challenging combat system, learning from mistakes, exploration that comes with a sense of caution, however since the "git gud" crew won out memetically fromsoft started catering to this new consumer base that originated from it, and now its just about being "MUH SUPER HARD GAME" with its fundamentals thrown out the window. The gameplay is no longer engaging, in fact its so lacking in engagement that everyone and their dog decided to beat the game with mimic tear, rotten breath, moonveil, rivers of blood, and so on, which trivialize the game by circumventing its fundamental combat mechanics entirely.
A boss in sekiro for example is exactly how a boss fight should feel, its a dance with a rhytm, everything is understood intuitively, no gotchas, no BS, no cheese for you to use, it forces you to engage with all its mechanics in a way thats fun yet still challenging. Elden ring has none of this, just frustration at the games design by people who are actually capable of critical thinking, and stockholm syndrome by people who want to D-ride fromsoft for social approval. Im not just saying this either, this is a real phenomenon, you people are LITERALLY incapable of thought because you descend from communal farmers who evolved to become herd animals, as such you are LITERALLY cattle who believe themselves to be capable of thought, but arent actually, and just parrot what a perceived authority told you. As such you ruin everything by creating consumer bases which incentivize the commodification and dumbing down of everything. Theres a reason why modding video games and quality video games are a thing of the past, you being that very reason.
Radahn being the final boss is a perfect example of this aswell, too many redditors out there saying "I wish we got radahn at his full power, omg chadahn, I need more chadahn!" is exactly why radahn is the final boss of the dlc. Im sick and tired of this catering to the mentally disabled masses.
@@darius9329 Wow what an incredible comment.
@@KaydeTheFang did my previous one get deleted I am unable to see it. holy shit I love youtube so much
@@darius9329 I don't know sometimes they come and go, it might appear later, I can see it though lol. You can see it if you sort the comments by newest first but not when it's on top comments.
Bros a bloodbourne fan
I thought this was a joke video. 😂. The philosophy of the souls games is what ever From wants it to be. Get good.
Get taste
None of the dark souls have been tough, but fair the soul of all the soulslike games is persevering through incredible challenge And adapting and learning to overcome them. But you simply giving up and saying that it’s just too hard well I think we all know exactly what that is
You only mention rolls too now that I’m like mid of the video and seem to forget that blocking and guard counters exist as well as jumping. You also cry about being locked on when it’s a single toggle button
bad oppinion, theres plenty of mechanics you can use to get by
"How dare you talk like that about the greatest master piece of all time ever??!!"
Bloodborne > Elden Ring btw
I prefer From's shorter games to the behemoth that is Elden Ring. It's tough to get invest a ton of time into the game with life responsibilities. Can't really decide on a favorite though
Bloodborne is better, because elden ring has some BULLSHIT in the base game and the DLC but elden ring is still better than ds2, and dare i say ds1?
@@dingleberrio contained hand crafted levels always win over procedurally generated ones. But I guess people only want content! I personally could not finish Elden Ring. Lost motivation after 200 hours and I do not desire any more of that.
I'm not replying to any more comments on my own video, it seems that these people are incapable of listening to what I said in the video. Literally every single one of them just say "git gud" and completely ignore the point. It's bordering on brain dead. The game is not fun because the bosses are over tuned and unfair with ridiculous move sets that ask to much of the average player to be rewarding, and their answer is to suffer more while simultaneously not enjoying the game as a fix all solution or to use cheese and summons. They've lost the plot along with From Software. The future is bleak. That is all.
I need a mug that says "maidenless tarnished tears"
Bro we arent dogging on you, git gud is legitimate advice. Anyone can beat these games with any equipment if they just get good enough. Its not the games fault you arent good enough to solo everything and need to engage with some of the games mechanics to get past challenges.
@@lucifox8506 I'll make one exception and respond to this comment because you're one of the craziest butt hurt people who can't leave this video alone along with dingleberrio. Both of you are seething to a degree I've not witnessed on one of my videos in a long time. It's almost as if you have married my video with how much you frequent the comments over the past 48 hours, it's borderline disturbing that you are this committed to lecturing me in the comment section about made up nonsense you are projecting onto me for offering criticism of the game, which you would agree with if you were even slightly rational.
So here's what I wanted to say: I am good enough to solo everything, I don't want to because it's unfairly designed and boring to do. I don't know how many times I need to make this point for these thick skull fanboys like you to understand. I am uninterested in the level of challenge of these bosses, it is relentless, boring, unfair, and unfun. Secondly, I find using the game mechanics (which are the intended design of this game which is why soloing isn't fun (duh!)) equally boring because it won't allow me to fight the boss in a fun reasonable manner in a tough but fair rewarding way like every other game they've produced since 2009. So in conclusion: there is no way for me to enjoy the game's boss design. What do you not get? Here's an idea, how about watching the entire 5 minutes and 51 seconds of my video and actually listen to it before raiding the comment section with fanboy rage.
Sorry if I have to be a little bit rude with this response. But you really need to work on your comprehension skills. And that right there is legitimate advice. I don't need to git gud, you need to git gud at basic comprehension. I guarantee you didn't' watch the entire video which is why your pants are constantly at your ankles, and you need to keep watching it until you git gud at comprehending it.
@@KaydeTheFang "waaah waaaaaaaah im not good enough to solo the bosses and i refuse to engage with game mechanics so that means the game is bad" clearly youre not good enough to solo all the bosses, or you wouldnt be bitching about how the game is bad because you cant fo it.
@@lucifox8506 You know how I know you're an idiot? Because you wear fingernail polish.
Cope.
Git good. Sorry, but there is no way around it. The bosses are not designed for summons. You clearly never learned how to fight the Bosses in Elden Ring. They are by far the most intricate designed fights in the series by far.
The first time i beat it, i would agree with you and shared this sentiment saying they were unfair.
But instead lf whining, i humbled myself, admitted that i sucked and tried again with an open mind and willing to learn.
Once you do, Elden ring Bosses are by far the best bosses fromsoft has ever put out.
The difficulty will probably only go higher from here in their future games.
You can either swallow your ego and enjoy them, or live in the past playing the old games (they are also masterpieces, so you would still be fine)
Just remeber to say that you don't like the direction the series is going instead of implying that is bad, as it is certainly not.
im gonna be honest, i kinda hope that they dont just continuously make all their games harder because at a certain point its more frustrating than 'tough but fair' and some of the bosses moves in both the DLC and the base game are total bullshit that can ruin your run if you get bad RNG (looking at horah loux arena stomp that he repeatedly spams with some irregular timing, or other boss moves with jank ass delays and far-too-fast delivery) though i will grant that the DLC bosses have felt SOOOOOOOO much more fair and refined than mostr of the late-game bosses
They are designed for summons, you people are delusional if you think they weren't. The game is designed to punish you for not using a summon, just because it's possible to beat it without a summon doesn't mean it was intended. Having to learn every hit box and which way to dodge out of it or to do frame perfect punishes within small windows using specific attacks is not the intended design, or player skill, it's only for people with autism.
Yes I don't like the direction but it's also bad. It's not about whether or not it can be done, it's about whether or not it's reasonable, and it is not reasonable. It's so unreasonable in fact that the game is not fun to play in the unintended way. Acting like it wasn't designed for summons is acting like Sekiro wasn't designed for parries. Open your eyes, look at what the game pushes and offers to the player. Just because you can beat Sekiro without parrying doesn't mean you've gotten gud, it means you've rejected the design of the game in favor of playing the game how you want to a frustratingly stubborn degree.
@@KaydeTheFang Wrong again. Do you think the fact you have Just enough stamina do perfectly Dodge the entire combo of a Boss and still get a hit in at level 1 is coincidence?
Why do you think the Bosses have such delayed attacks? That is so you have time do regain stamina or get damage in the middle or their combos.
It is intended for you to be able to solo It with any weapon at any level and without summons. You have no idea how hard ot must be to strike that perfect balance.
The Sekiro analogy is stupid. Parrying on that game requires you to engage with the boss moveset, while spirit ashes don't.
Sorry, you are Just bad at the game . How are you supposed to learn If your summon takes all the aggro for you while you hit the boss on the back?
There is nothing wrong with being bad at the game, but you are being a scrub and putting the blame on the game instead of yourself. Just say it's too hard for me, i don't want to spend 2 hours learning the moveset. Nobody would ever croticize for that as is just your opinion and you are allowed to have it.
I was also humbled by the game on my first playthrough and used all the same excuses "artificial difficulty", "input reading", "infinite combos" turns out those are all wrong. We were just bad and not willing to learn.
I reccomend you watch the videos of feeble king and lupineos on the subject, where they factually prove the bosses are not unfair, but in fact amazing.
@@soullordbr6183 No what they prove is that they are autistic hardcore players and not representative of the player base. They are single handedly becoming responsible for the death of the souls series because people are believing their crap, allowing From Software to become lazier and lazier in the future because no matter how much nonsense they put into the game, there is always that one guy who will study the game for a thousand hours and go, "Actually it's genius."
Do you really think the delayed attacks purpose is to be a punish opportunity for the boss, or to trick the player and roll catch the player? Which do you honestly believe was the intended design? What a joke. They actually are making the argument that the game just failed to "teach" the player this. It's because it's not the intended design. The intended design was to make the bosses aggressive and hard to punish to force players into using their summon system.
You are right I don't want to spend 2 hours learning the move set because it's unintuitive and the boss can be beaten with a summon as intended by the developer. I'm not an idiot who gets off on flagellating myself for no reason so I can flex that I played the video game in an unintentionally designed way at the hardest difficulty to boost my ego and make myself seem better than other people for doing it.
@@KaydeTheFang Listen to yourself. You are trying to shame people for enjoying something?
Fromsoft is not getting lazier. Quite the contrary, it takes way more effort to design a boss like maliketh instead of Seath the scaleless.
"Bwaa bwaa is not intuitive, i want to be able to circle every boss and hit them in the bum but Elden ring won't let me"
Yes, the delayed attacks also exist to make you learn the moveset ant not just roll spam when you see the boss raising their weapon like in DS3. But yes, they factually also become huge openings once you learn the fight and rewards you for doing so.
Once again the only one with an ego here is you. Nobody is saying you cannot dislike the boss design, we're just correcting you once you make statements that are wrong.
It sounds like you didn't fully click with the base game mechanics, and this DLC builds on those
You're right, this isn't dark souls anymore. It's Elden Ring.
How is making your game harder appealing to more people? The first time i played a soulslike it was DS3 and i essentially rage quit as soon as i hit Gundyr. I played 300 hours of Elden Ring in 2022 and got stuck on the fire giant. I've now beaten all from software soulslike except for demons souls, Elden Ring included. You need to overcome the challenge, that's the fun. The challenge will drive most newcomers away
What did you expect? For the DLC to be normal? Mid? I fought the Dancing Divine Beast for 3+ hours and i killed him solo, level 149 strength build no summons no ashes. I could have used a summon, but i enjoyed the challenge! The summon probably would have got me through that fight in 1/4 the time, but i wanted to understand these new mechanics. Back in the day, i spent 20+ hours on Margit, 10+ hours on Genichiro. And I'm pretty casual! I've got a full time job, wife, kids. I get to play videogames maybe 8 hours tops in 5 days, sometimes i will go weeks without playing a game because of life and my responsibilities. But this game is awesome, though imperfect. I want to see more games like this. I hope that Miyazaki does not cave to the people who want a power fantasy rather than an invigorating challenge
I expected the bosses to be designed reasonable and not rely on summoning and cheese builds. It's appeals to more people because the game doesn't require you to fight the boss, and it's intended that you do not fight the boss fairly in a 1v1 duel. You are fighting against the developers intent by not using summons. They tried to design the bosses so that summons were required. A small minority of the community is hardcore challenge runners and think that there's some sort of hidden depth to the game by not using summons. Both ways are unfun to play the game. I'm not going to master frame perfect combos like in a fighting game, I want an organic and intuitive challenge, but that is not offered in this game. This game is for streamers and content creators to flex how much time they wasted ignoring the games intended design.
@@KaydeTheFang I'm so confused by you. If you want to play the normal design, use your summons. If you want a 1v1 fight, then study and get better. And go level! I got destroyed by the dancing Divine Beast for an hour and thought, "this guy is probably like Margit". I ran away, found some scadutree fragments, fought other enemies and mini bosses and gained some game mechanics experience. I went back to him and got stomped for 20 minutes, and then I finally killed him. No summons, level 149, scadutree 4 I think (not sure how scadutree levels work). Took a lot of focus and study. I didn't even attempt him when my kids were awake because I would be too distracted
I'm trying to encourage you. I think a lot of the commentors are trying to encourage you. Yes, you suck right now, we ALL do. Just pick up your sword and fight again. Kill these bosses on your terms, or don't, but the game isn't bad because you refuse to kill a boss normally or 1v1
Dark Souls 2 totally sucks, though. That game has moments of goodness, but generally is ganky and stupid. DS3 DLC has some similar ganky elements, too, that turned me off to it a bit, but that is still a good DLC overall.
Anyway dude, go play and git gud. You can do it, just lay down your ego
Thats the thing though, you can still have the power fantasy, but you gotta earn it
Ive had these views a week after the damn game came out, feels so good to finally be vindicated.
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Entire video is invalidated by people doing no hit runs on bosses. Bro just go no skill or patience. Get good lil bro.