Mobile Super branches Shredder - Machine Build (fail?)
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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You know that we really like machines for wood, branches, etc. That's why we decided to make another such machine.
This time we used a combustion engine with a power of 7 HP (actually it is probably 4 HP), a 1:100 planetary gear and a cutting mechanism of our own making.
Unfortunately, as you saw, the gear seized up and stopped. I'm not sure what the reason was, but I suspect two possibilities.
The gears were already a bit worn and I didn't know about it because I didn't look inside before starting the project or 3600 engine rpm was too much for this gear. From what I remember, it worked with a 1400 rpm engine and maybe that's the problem.
Life goes on and you have to move on to another project. Maybe we'll come back to this ;)
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Too bad with the gearbox, but don't look back in anger, it's a new challenge now!
You can do it!
The machine itself looked good, simple but probably very powerful, would love to see it operational...
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I wanted to say you have amazing ideas and you build the most amazing things !! Things break it happens ...keep going I believe in you !! You will be back !!
Two thoughts_1) Maybe make those blades replaceable. 2) At least heat treat and temper the blades if you are going to ing to welded them in place,then they’ll last a bit longer.
Since this failed it could end up being a blessing with a little imagination. I'd experiment with various worm gears from different tools/machinery, or chain/belt drive etc. Btw, I'd rather watch one of your rare "fail" videos than most success videos from other channels. I hope you don't give up on this just yet. God bless.
[edit]: Here in the U.S. certain marketplaces have a "free" section with old broken tools/machinery to use for parts.
Blessing? You bible bangers are a sad bunch.
@@I_Dont_Answer_Questions // You have the perfect name-someone who say's what they what to be true, while never studying to know what IS true.
"The word of the cross *is foolishness* to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved *it is the power of God"* [1 Cor 1 v18] 🤔
Tak czasem bywa, że nie wszystko po naszej myśli idzie. Złośliwość rzeczy martwych jak to mówią.
Ale dzięki, że dzielisz się z nami filmami z budowy swoich urządzeń. Doskonale wiem ile stworzenie takiej maszyny zajmuje czasu, a później montaż filmu. Dla nas to 40minut ogladania dla Ciebie kilka dni lub tygodni budowy.
Chylę czoła za pomysłowość i wytrwałość w tym co robisz. 👍
Nice sharing Vidio.. very inspiring and useful.. great ❤😮
Cycloidal gears contact only on small part. I think it is correct.
The only fault in my opinion is that the blades are welded. There is no possibility of replacing the knives or removing them for sharpening.
Hmm, dlaczego napisałeś, że to przekładnia planetarna?
Może sam spróbujesz zrobić przekładnie ślimakową. Takiego filmu z własną przekładnią ślimakową dla rębaka jeszcze nie widziałem.
I think a dual chain reduction drive: main shaft to an idler shaft, then back to main shaft with sprockets and chains; fairly inexpensive and robust, and will fit into the same space. Two ten to ones gives 100, and first is 360 rpm, and second is 36 rpm. Pro Tip: don't get your fingers caught in that 🙂
Sukces polega na przechodzeniu od porażki do porażki bez utraty entuzjazmu. - Winston Churchill - nie łam się , świetna robota
Can double as a toe nail clipper!
A belt drive with an engagement pulley on a spring could act like a slip clutch
the gears arent misaligned. its a harmonic drive. the issue is that it once had water in it and rusted. someone cleaned up the rust. the teeth look chewed up. maybe a piece of metal got in there and mangled them all up. or perhaps it was wrongly reassembled cause it had more slop in it after the cleanup
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It's not really a harmonic drive, but it's related to it. Anyway, those types of gearboxes are NOT designed for such torque.
@@bartdereu9267 what gearbox would be best suited for this?
@@fredlllll I think a set of planetary reductions can handle to most torque, but will be expensive. I'd lower the speed down first to 25% with a belt drive, and work from there.
@@bartdereu9267a worm drive gearbox should work better for this, right? Like 35:1 - 75:1
Good idea, but problem using a gearbox is there's no give in the driving system, definitely needs like a belt and pulley.
Pretty sure all commercial chippers use belts or a series of driven belts
@@tfildaed yer they do
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Cycloidal drive gearbox
this is the first branch breaker that I have seen that pinches the branch from one side, I can only think that that creates the need for more pressure on the bearings and the gears, in order to break the branch, since it has to push the blade clear through the branch, other wise it was a good build, and a SUCESS, just needs some tweaking.
Надо лезвия наточить - как - приварил ведь.
1.Ten typ przekładni to nie jest przekładnia planetarna. 2. Na drugim końcu wału z ostrzami powinieneś dać koło zamachowe, wtedy obciążenie przekładni miałoby mniej udarowy charakter. 3. takie sprzęgło jakie dałeś pomiędzy silnikiem a przekładnią (tylko odpowiednio większe) powinno być pomiędzy przekładnią a wałem z ostrzami - również niwelowałoby udarowy charakter obciążenia przekładni, co na pewno przełożyło by się na jej żywotność. Pozdrawiam.
Przekładnia pewnie już była uszkodzona... Dostała większego obciążenia i pokazała dlaczego ktoś się jej pozbył... Pozdrawiam 👍👍 fajny projekt
Co za typ reduktora Jaki moduł mają zęby Ile razy prędkość z silnika zmiejszona na wyjściu z reduktora Pozdrawiam
Another top-notch video. Excellent craftsmanship, fab skills, problem solving, welding, machining, etc. I have learned so much watching your projects over the years. Please keep up the great work!
Well, sometimes things doesn't go as planned, but that's what makes life interesting. Get up on the horse again guys, you got this! ☺🙏👍
Worm gear isbmuch more sturdy, but great build bro!
Jak zawsze fantastyczna robota 💪 aż miło się ogląda taki materiał 👍🏻 super sprawa! 👏
It's a little scary how talented you are, I like your vids!
Can you try to make a sawmill but with a circular saw blade on an electric motor that slids down a railing and stuff? I need some ideas on how to because i want to make one myself.
Oh... Wow... 😮
Do you think it was manufacturing defect? Looks pretty weird!!!
Either way, fantastic work as usual! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
How about the exhaust fumes from the engine? Do they become sent away to the max? Otherwise I would think of headaches if working too long with it, in particular outsides at days without any wind going.
Great build! Can't await the next episode! Greatings from Bitburg, Eifel, Germany, long live the EU! 🤗👏
(How about installing hardened cutting edges to the blades?)
Oh well nice try. At first wasn't sure what it was meant to be, then saw the "blades" being shaped. Would have done so blades were adjustable as on forage shute. But good idea, until g/box broke. Nothing you did caused problem, just bad adjustment/alignment at factory. Thanks for showing, love your work, some very interesting projects you have done. Best wishes from UK.
It's going to be quite awkward to resharpen the knives with them welded in place, he did however take into account the ability to tighten the throat up. The four jack bolts he welded in the underside of the frame.
One thing i don't get is... why are you complicating your life with this design? It's not the smartest. The flywheel type with the blades placed (like spokes) results in a finer chip and it's also easir on the engine, since the flywheel soaks up the impact AND the smaller cut = less power loss.
IMHO, you should try that. Just get a large off-cut from your source, cut two slots in it, angled so that the knives can be bolted in, add a shaft driven by belt (even more engine protection) and make a housing with a chute that puts the branch at the knives, at an angle.
Just my 2 cents, the "water wheel" design is not good. I've seen so many of the commercial ones fail after a while, broken mounts from vibration, burnt out electric motors, and all sorts of complaints - and that's on top of the less efficient design.
As always, your building skills, top notch, so the above is not a critique of that. Just that i don't think this design is viable.
And the name of this device should be "bober, kurwa"😂😂😂
That looks like a harmonic drive or cycloid drive, not a planetary gear set. I couldn't see the sun gear or planetary gears. The two center shaft ball bearings are offset and the counter weight balances the off-center load (similar to a crankshaft)..
Super pomysł i wykonanie, wymienisz Darek przekładnie i będzie chodzić. Pozdrowionka
It's asking a lot out of a gearbox. Needs something to slip back in the old days they used to use leather discs
Ze względu na to że tego typu maszyny mogłyby pracować na działce przy braku zasilania 220-240V, a w okresie jesienno zimowym szybko się ściemnia to można by zamontować małą prądnicę o napięciu wyjściowym 12-24V do zasilania oświetlenia.
Cos te rebaki Cie nie lubia. Ktorys z kolei i znow cos nie tak. Ale jak juz udoskonalisz projekt to będzie na lata
Everything you made worked perfectly. The gearbox, which you did not make, failed.
I like your projects. Next time I want to see HD shop press but with 20/32 ton bottle jack, which is flipped upside down and WHICH is driven by motoreducer and some special mechanism and not with hands. It will be fun. There is only one video in youtube of such a machine (by old russian guy)
No niestety filmy filmami a w trakcie budowy przeważnie zawsze się coś wydarzy niespodziewanego . Możesz jeszcze wstawiać fragmenty jak pięknie epitetami rzucasz wtedy 😅. Skąd ja to Znam :D ale kto to ogarnie jak nie Ty ;) pozdro 😊
W trakcie budowy ( w trakcie ) rozumiesz durniu po polsku? Zakuty łbie?
Tak, to tylko na filmach tak wszystko fajnie wygląda, a życie pisze swoje scenariusze 😅 te fragmenty i tak musiałbym wypikac, bo wiadomo - monetyzacja 🤣
@@christophbendau1866 przepraszam jaśnie Pana za literówkę . Masz rację że za takie rzeczy to człowieka trzeba zwyzywać od razu ;) pozdrawiam
See if you can find at least a four gear planetary gear setup and try again...
Very good!
people are suggesting worm gear. I like worm gear and use one in a much lower torque application now. But one large enough for this must be very expensive. To make one on your own has challenges. For one, my understanding is it is not as simple as a screw, because there is pitch involved. Also, it changes the orientation of the machine to 90 degrees at the shaft rather than straight. I suppose you could use two smaller worm gears, though, to get it back in line with the engine shaft. This might be a good idea since two half sized worm gears is likely cheaper than a full sized one.
Whatever you do to get this machine going, worm gear, new planetary gear box, or something different, Im sure I will enjoy watching it 😊
I'm happy that it's stopped honestly this thing is seriously dangerous wish all the best and safe
The project may have failed but i learned a lot about the value of belt drive mechanisms in applications such as this and i thank you for that.
That is , as always , a very interesting project ! Shame for the reduction gearbox getting destroyed BUT some of your most intriguing videos are about modifying / improving existing projects or getting out of dead end ideas with success !
It seems pretty easy to make, but just picking it up and making it isn't for everyone. Great work!
I think you may want to make a slot instead of a flat plate where the wood can fall straight down just after it cuts so it can't get pinched in the chute as the cut piece is forced out the back. If you have a slot it gets cut and falls straight down and away from the cutter each time. I saw a few pieces go sideways and get cut a second time part way. Great job. Enjoyed watching the build.
Thanks for the video. It’s always helpful to see what works and what doesn’t. I wonder if some kind of hydraulic drive would be more resilient for this kind of work where the drive might jam?
I'm not disappointed I still learned something. Like someone said it was a bad gearbox but can you fix it or is it unrepairable? I don't know you the man thanks!
Not approved for safety. To avoid possible dangers, it must have a protective cover so that the blades are at least 12 cm behind the cover.
Gear teeth probably where not hardened for such use.
was very nice, get a sizing gauge before next test run & me I'm digging garlic NICE work
مادام المشروع فشل ماذا استفدنا من مشاهدته سوى انك أخطأت في اختيار الجير بوكس المناسب لهذا الجهد
That great your handy build
I do like it 😊
Rębaki super sprawa. Błyskawicznie można pozbyć się gałęzi i np rzucić na kompost lub spożytkować na opał do pieca.
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Jednak moim zdaniem minus większośc dostępnych rębaków, to to że np gałęzie bardziej rozkrzaczone, np z jabłoni nie wejdą w te małe "wsady". Lub będą się zakleszczać.,
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Bym chętnie dał zlecenie komuś kto by wykonał rębak z dużą "wsadem". Nóż też gdyby był dłuższy, np 40-50 cm to by robił myślę fajnie robotę.
Nie chodzi mi o średnicę ciętych gałęzi, bo do 10 cm to byłby max. Grubsze gałęzie i tak tnę piłą spalinową.
A nie lepiej jakiś wałek który obraca się wolno i wciąga gałęzie do środka? Nóż 50cm mógłby być raz że dużym obciążeniem gdyby na całej jego długości weszło coś do rozcięcia, dwa że mógłby się odkształcać.
Result is no matter but hard work is really appreciate 🙏 Great work sir I enjoyed the show thanks 👍 😊❤❤
Prozsa. krajzegę z integrowaną z heblarką ( po zdjęciu głównej płyty znajduje się heblarka) silnik 5.5KW + 2 piły widiowe +przewód elektryczny. Please make this....???? I live in Poland and need to make this. The electrical would be a slight issue but hope you could a fellow citizen with ideas and possible solution. Have a look on allegro. Piła stołowa sam krajzega
Time to get a CNC and MAKE YOUR OWN Planetary Gear Box!!! ;)
As long as you learn something from it, not a fail, the gearbox on otherhand is full of sparkly oil 😅
Too bad that gearbox broke, hope you find another one that works or change the design to handle a different one.
Good luck 👍💪✌
yes, this type of gearbox is not suitable.
Tough luck with the gear box. Keep going, you will dial it in.
How can that be a failure? Your rotary welding table worked perfectly 😂
It wasn't essential here, but I wonder what made you decide to use a gasoline engine instead of an electric motor?
I wanted this tool to be as mobile as possible. I have a large plot and I don't want to run cables everywhere 😉
most of the commercial wood chippers seem to have a belt reduction
Probably just slipped on the key or key is worn. Cheers.
You still did a great job. Not on you.😡😠🤬gearbox
Chia sẻ cách làm rất là tuyệt vời 🎉
U need any types bearing just ask me please
Well, you can't win every time. It was still a cool video.
Have you looked into- contacting a small machine/tool company about them sending you some new machines (ones that you otherwise wouldn't be able to afford on your own, like a CNC or a Lathe... but I'm thinking mainly a CNC) in exchange for a few Ad spots on your channel??? You do have OVER 1.25 MILLION subscribers, so companies are more than willing to send you9 their equipment so that their name gets heard but 10's or even 100's of thousands of people. UA-cam channels much smaller than yours do deals like this ALL THE TIME!!!
Just yesterday I watched the newest vid from Not An Engineer and a company sent him a CNC for an AD read, and he doesn't even have 190k subs!! So you will DEFINITELY find a company that will do this! (that's IF you are interest in owning a CNC... or some other big machine you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford without a big bank load or something)
And all he did was send the company an email (I'm not sure which company it was tho, or who he emailed in the company... I would think it would be the head of Marketing maybe 🤷♂) And asked them if they send youtubers their machines in exchange for an honest review... and they said yes they do.
So i REALLY think you would have NO PROBLEM in having this happen, no problems at all. Well, except maybe that you have an accent.... so you WILL have to work on pronouncing your English with less of an accent, just because you will have to do some narration in the ad reads..... OR you could do something different like making the ad into a funny/comedy type of ad, and having a girl hold up a large piece of white cardboard with the narration written on it... and use some comedy like "accidentally" holding the board upside down... oh oh, along with showing the boards with the narration, YOU could be reading the narration out loud and the signs she is holding is acknowledging that you have a thick Polish accent, which it perfectly fine.. ( in America we are always hearing accents from all over the world, but when people actually know English but just have a thick accent, it still makes us happy that they know what they're saying in English... they put in a LOT of effort to learn English ) and when the girl "accidentally" holds the sign upside down, you would play that part of your voice narration IN REVERSE, but then just before she would be switching to the next sign, she realizes it backwards and flips, and then you voice switches to talking normally LOL (I know it's not really 'comedy' I'm just trying to give you some ideas for a unique ad read.... and this is IMPORTANT if you think you will ever want to do an sponsored video for another company because they will look at how you did the sponsored videos before that... so you REALLY want to make a great, high quality ad read video because other company WILL WANT TO work with you in the future :)
OR... if you REALLY wanted to I could do the NARRATION for you (for Free of course... because I REALLY want to show some love and support to your channel because I've actually LEARNED ALOT just by watching you make stuff! and seeing you go from that very small tool shed to what is now a FULL MACHINE SHOP has actually brought me SO MUCH JOY just by watching you grow from what seemed like just a small hobby to you doing WHAT YOU LOVE TO DO, EVERY DAY!!! So I REALLY would want to give something back for all that you have given me.... but money is just something I DO NOT have very much of... I'm unemployed, living in my mother and fathers home while I take care of my senile, bedridden mother and also all that goes along with keeping a house running because my father is on Oxygen and can't even walk to the bathroom without having to take a break and catch his breath :( - So with zero income coming in, my needs are met, but I don't have the luxury buying things that aren't a necessity :/ )
So anyway, I would do the narration if you want a native English speaker for the ad (I have a pretty nice microphone and I went to technical school for sound production, so I know how to use a really large professional recording studio, so I'm sure I could figure out how to do a video narration lol :D ) ... I don't expect you to want me to do it, but UI wanted to put the offe3r out there just in case. I just wanna do whatever I can to help your channel grow and make it continue to be as awesome as it already is, IF NOT MORE AWESOMEERRRRRR!!!!!!! lmao
I hope this all works out... IF you're looking to get some new toys... err I mean new TOOLS lol ;) Let me know if I can help in any way :D
OMG!! I am SOOO SORRY!!! I wrote this in the beginning of your video and I didn't get far enough into the video to hear you talk... Your English is GREAT!!! I thought you had a much thicker accent than what you really do! I'm really sorry bro. You would be perfect to do the narration on your ad, IDK why I thought your accent was super thick... but it's not.. ITS FINE!!
okay then, I hope I was able o motivate you into reaching out to some companies and getting yourself some of the new tools that you NEED!!! :)
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Are those the Fireball Tools magnetic shims?
Yes they are 😉
Attach a Sumitomo cyclo drive
Nice machine 👍
Делать хрень ради видоса... Ну так себе идея!
Думаю 250 полуляхов из 250 возможных!
Приваривать ножи - не комильфо!
sharpening the blades will be an interesting chore.
Please do some safety guards!!!!
Użyj przekładni planetarnej
I would set your welding machine a little higher from now on, your welds are just a little too convex and probably not properly burned
He knows what he’s doing mate
@@Hugh1966 and how you see that?😉
Mam pytanie jeśli dobrze pamiętam Hinomoto zdejmował jakąś pompę do sprężarki ?czyżby jakiś projekt większej sprężarki do piaskowania może napędzana wałkiem wom ?
To był 4 tłokowy kompresor 7,5 kw, który kupiłem jakiś czas temu. Nowy, 20 lat stał nieużywany i trzeba go uruchomić, ale ciągle za mało czasu ;/
@@MadeinPolandChannel Spr moje konstrukcje fakt że najnowszej nie mam bo nie skończona do końca ale zawsze ,miałem o napędzie wom o napędzie elektrycznym 2 szt 7.5kw .Teraz na potrzeby tynkowania elewacji będę robił mobilny kompresor na mojej kosiarce zamiast agregatu tnącego .Takich cudów na kiju chyba nikt nie robił🤣
Przekładnia była za słaba i nie wytrzymała czy już wczesniej była uszkodzona?
tego właśnie nie jestem pewien.
@@MadeinPolandChannel Te gałęzie nie wyglądają na twarde, za to noże wyglądają na ostre, wydaje mi się że nie było tam tak dużych przeciążeń żeby uszkodzić przekładnie. Tym bardziej że nie pchałeś tam 5 kijków naraz. Przekładnia musiała mieć spory przebieg.
Edit: chociaż może zbyt duże obroty sprawiły że smar wewnątrz nie nadążał w jakiś sposób odpowiednio smarować elementów, dla tego obroty/min były tak niskie od producenta.
🎉wow amazing 😮 work Plz can you tell which camera are you using for video shoot...?
lumix g85 + 12-60mm lens + 25mm 1.7 lens :)
Time to hunt down a tougher gearbox!
so @ 6:16 is that a new saw??? VERY NICE!!!!! I hope you get a TON of great use out of it :D
I see that blade is made in Japan.... if the saw is too then it should last you 20 years! Japan makes the HIGHEST QUALITY .... everything IMO .... So I think you made a good buy :)
Як називаеться монтажна пила по металу якою ви користуетесь ?
gearbox from toy-story shop..............
A new gearbox and it's good as new.
Very nice work sir
GREAT JOB AS USUALL.
MM77 Approved 👍🏻 👍🏻
Is it a cycloidal gear box?
Yes it is.
Good job mister well done
too many torq-u's
part 2 it will work
Cikawy pomysł z ta przekładnią ,ale nie lepeij było dać koło 400 mm i na silniku 60 mm ? No chyba że miałeś pod ręka taką przekładnie .Jestem ciekaw końcowego efektu ps ja dałem silnik 18 km szatan
Właśnie miałem przekładnie i chciałem ją wykorzystać 😉
@@MadeinPolandChannel Jak naostrzysz noże ? jak się zrobią pół ogkrągłe ?,Myśle że spokojnie mogłeś dać na 3 paski 17 1:1 i zastosowac koło zamachowe 10-15 kg
how much for a replacement gearbox?
They don't produce them anymore ;/