Rebels Faction Guide: Rome Total War

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  • @lugotorix6173
    @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +38

    How to unlock the rebels: ua-cam.com/video/9e0ZEh3fP-0/v-deo.html
    My rebels campaign: ua-cam.com/video/7zipK5P3Zuc/v-deo.html
    Rebels Micromanagement video: ua-cam.com/video/gK4aQdvdHOw/v-deo.html

  • @bigpapa880
    @bigpapa880 5 років тому +518

    Finally, a HISTORICAL faction

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 4 роки тому +175

    "In the garbage lands (sorry if you're from here)"
    *Angry Russian/Polish noises*

    • @fenriders7008
      @fenriders7008 3 роки тому +11

      The chants of “kurva” and “cyka blyat” intensify

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 3 роки тому +5

      Technically Germany is just Forrest and Swamp land and Great Britain is basically worthless in this period so those countries are not alone in that historically speaking.

    • @Jeyeyeyey
      @Jeyeyeyey 2 роки тому +3

      not much has changed over the past 2000 years lmao

  • @privet20_commie
    @privet20_commie 5 років тому +177

    1)you need to spread greek culture to recruit greek hoplites( eg from massilia to lugdunum). Unit from massilia enters lugfunum -> lugdunum is greek. End turn or save and load the game. And Lugdunum becomes greek. You are able to recruit greek units right now
    2)rebel armies die when they lose a battle. Be careful

  • @markghostproductions3697
    @markghostproductions3697 5 років тому +128

    Cursed faction guide

  • @_Gandalf_The_White
    @_Gandalf_The_White 4 роки тому +107

    This is a hard campaign but the random armies and zero public order penalty make this one of the funnest long term campaigns second only to Rome IMO.

    • @zeeafraud7898
      @zeeafraud7898 3 роки тому +10

      No public order penalties is enough for me to play as them.

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai 3 роки тому +31

    Of course, the biggest disadvantage of the rebels that you forgot to mention here is that any defeat annihilates all armies you had that partook in the battle.

    • @mp6471
      @mp6471 5 місяців тому +4

      Yes, but also no public order issues because rebel settlemsnts can't rebel anymore

  • @solinvictus4367
    @solinvictus4367 4 роки тому +87

    Moving the capital fixes the economy?
    *Drafts proposal to move the US capital to Omaha, Nebraska*
    There debt fixed

    • @senpainoticeme9675
      @senpainoticeme9675 4 роки тому +4

      Should be deficit not debt. There is no debt system in total war games.

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 4 роки тому +1

      The closer the capital, the less likely corruption is. Kinda counter-intuitive lol. With government officials closer, people are more aware to pay taxes. You can shift your capital to all 30 cities and see what gives the most predicted income.

    • @male_maid5951
      @male_maid5951 3 роки тому

      @@sjonnieplayfull5859 not quiet, it would more be like moving the capital to panema and increasing the tax rate.

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 3 роки тому

      @@male_maid5951 i was explaining the total war way. Modern day has no solution. Rich people are too rich and will defend their money (they have the means to defend it) and the government is too large and clumsy to properly put the money to good work.

  • @allisterjeffery4130
    @allisterjeffery4130 5 років тому +47

    Good faction review, I always wondered how the rebel campain works and how to win with them, the way you explained it was very well done. What you said about the militia hoplites breaking over nothing was funny, my favorite faction are the seleucids so I can definetly relate to that. I just started a new seleucid Campaign today and was once again reminded of the "exceptional bravery" of those militia hoplites.

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +5

      Thank you, yeah I have a long and difficult history with militia hoplites haha (particularly on VH difficulty), they really can't be relied upon on a regular basis

    • @flamekite1679
      @flamekite1679 4 роки тому +1

      @@lugotorix6173 I really hate playing early game on harder difficulties because every unit breaks even when winning...

    • @elcid6301
      @elcid6301 2 роки тому

      With The Seleucids and Macedon their Levy Pikemen also have poor morale so you really have to tech up your barracks fast

  • @TheManofthecross
    @TheManofthecross 5 років тому +69

    the rebles also have the city of the amazons at there disposal to use as well. so you have acess to top tear and vet troops right off the bat.

    • @aaronstorey9712
      @aaronstorey9712 4 роки тому +1

      City of the amazons

    • @yoseftrachtenberg4571
      @yoseftrachtenberg4571 3 роки тому +2

      True, but it takes so long for them to get to the fight!

    • @TheManofthecross
      @TheManofthecross 3 роки тому

      @@aaronstorey9712 my spelling sucks.

    • @TheManofthecross
      @TheManofthecross 3 роки тому

      @@yoseftrachtenberg4571 indeed but at least you can develop it and try to get more of them as well.

    • @yoseftrachtenberg4571
      @yoseftrachtenberg4571 3 роки тому

      @@TheManofthecross Can you recruit more Amazon chariots there?

  • @athath2010
    @athath2010 5 років тому +49

    You should probably have mentioned that those amazon chariots are absolute goddesses in autoresolve, and it is almost always better to autoresolve battles with them than to fight battles manually with them (fighting battles manually with them tends to result in them accumulating more casualties than they would gain in an autoresolved battle).

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +17

      Yeah that's a very good point actually

  • @JJvideoman
    @JJvideoman 5 років тому +59

    Such relaxing content.
    I've recently got Into trying Armenia for the first time.
    Hardest campaign I've played so far. Really satisfying.

    • @retrosrobloxreviews9564
      @retrosrobloxreviews9564 3 роки тому +1

      Armenia is such a weird faction in RTW. They just take Phraaspa and from there on they either: A, Do nothing or B, go on to yeet Parthia, Scythian and start munching on Seleucid (this is rare however, happened only 3 times in my play throughs).

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 Рік тому

      Armenia is a torture to play against in Battle, but also a torture to play as in Strategy.

    • @banan5688
      @banan5688 9 місяців тому +1

      Not really difficult. In my opinion, Phraaspa is a trap, taking it gets you into immediate conflict with Parthia and they will come at you with a stack of 2 cataphracts and several horse archers. It's much better to ignore it and go deal with Pontus since it opens the whole Turkey up for taking and Pontus initial army is the easiest to deal with, just kite everything with horse archers and finish off with cataphracts and general

  • @SacredDaturaa
    @SacredDaturaa 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for this. Tried it out and it's a genuinely fun campaign.
    Stakes are very high all the time because you lose your whole army if you lose a battle, which really makes every engagement feel high-risk. Deciding which units to keep vs disband and which settlements to write off is an interesting problem as well. Feels almost like the WRE campaign in Barbarian Invasion, but more extreme. On the tactical side battles are more interesting because you're on the back foot more often, and varied unit types means a lot of variety in battle styles.

  • @paulmiller7838
    @paulmiller7838 4 роки тому +6

    I was just playing this morning as the Brutai without any mods and I had a Rebel diplomat come to me and ask for trade rites. I've been playing this game for probably 15 years and I have NEVER seen that before. I had not altered any files or anything.

    • @paulmiller7838
      @paulmiller7838 4 роки тому +1

      Oh I have a question, If a city rebels against you does it just become one of your cities again anyway because you are the Rebels?

    • @pastorofmuppets9346
      @pastorofmuppets9346 2 роки тому +2

      It can happen, usually very late game when you have most of the world conquered. Btw, spqr and rebels are immune to riots. Their settlements cant rebel no matter what

  • @Xander77Ru
    @Xander77Ru 6 місяців тому +2

    16:30 - You can just "arrow" between your armies to see if anything new popped up. Quicker than scanning the entire map.

    • @Xander77Ru
      @Xander77Ru 6 місяців тому +2

      Also a good way to spot all the useless pirate fleets spawning all over the place. You'll sometimes have to capture a random settlement and build a port just to have a place to disband your boats.

  • @justsammy2023
    @justsammy2023 5 років тому +30

    I was expecting this as like, an april fools vid or something XD

  • @josue_mejia
    @josue_mejia 3 роки тому +7

    If a faction is destroyed while there are still generals available in the field, those generals become rebels, too!

  • @TheAleatoriorandom
    @TheAleatoriorandom 5 років тому +9

    I really enjoy playing as the rebels, is really unique and every turn can be a surprise with the spawing armies.
    It can also be pretty fun and challenging in barbarian invasion or medieval 2.

    • @MrMturko44
      @MrMturko44 4 роки тому

      try pirates in empire total war

  • @godemperorofmankind3.091
    @godemperorofmankind3.091 5 років тому +20

    my favorite campaign. so desperate and epic since nearly every turn is an outnumbered last stand

  • @martonk
    @martonk 4 роки тому +2

    This was a really good guide, one of the best I have seen in RTW. Interesting topic and clever tactics.

  • @Casketkrusher_
    @Casketkrusher_ 3 роки тому +4

    Pretty interesting to see that Rebels can recruit, spies diplomats and assassins. I modded some files which enables rebel spies and diplomats to spawn throughout the world.

  • @alicaganc.6644
    @alicaganc.6644 5 років тому +18

    Wow a rebels faction guide? :D great! :)

  • @yoseftrachtenberg4571
    @yoseftrachtenberg4571 3 роки тому +2

    Very cool! Thanks for the video. There's one thing you didn't mention here (I think you mentioned it in the rebels campaign video). You can't recruit at all in Barbarian settlements regardless of what buildings you have, so most are not worth fighting for (except Massila, which is Greek for some reason). You can recruit Eastern, Greek, Egyptian, and Iberian troops in settlements with those cultures, but nothing beyond second level troops and not all settlements can recruit every first/second level troop (for instance, none of the settlements in Spain let me recruit ships, and only Carthage let me recruit second level Iberian cavalry).
    I'm not sure how the game determines which troops you can recruit in each settlement (what the building tells you is often not accurate), and sometimes it changes if you lose and then reconquer one. After retaking Massila from the Gauls I couldn't recruit anything, and some Egyptian settlements let me recruit chariots with a blacksmith and others don't. One crucial thing I found was that some Egyptian and Parthian settlements (like Jerusalem and Suza) let you recruit horse archers, which are probably the most useful unit you can recruit, so taking those if you get the chance will make things much easier (once you have horse archer production you can clobber the Seleucids and put up a good fight against Armenia, Parthia, and Egypt).
    I played a VH/VH rebel campaign after watching your video on how to make them playable, it was super fun! I focused on the Aegean, Middle Eastern, and Southern France/Epirus/Northern Italy (a couple large armies spawned in Italy early on and I was able to take and hold two Gaul settlements and one of the Julii's). I ended up conquering the world by around 245 BC. Now I'm trying the campaign again where I don't allow myself to do anything (autoresolve all battles too) for the first 5 turns. It's super challenging--I managed to hold on to some Aegean settlements and expand a bit there, but have lost pretty much all my northern and African settlements and have had to consolidate my forces and retreat in the Middle East (I'm planning on heading east and trying to take Selucia and the Parthian settlement east of it to get out of the way of the Egyptians--once they approached Bostra with a 20 stack army on turn 7 I knew I couldn't fight them :).
    One last annoying thing is that the better you do early on, the less other factions fight each other. In my first rebels campaign no one was ever at war for the entire game except the Romans with the Carthaginians. In the second campaign some factions have taken all the surrounding rebel settlements (I only have a couple settlements left west of Athens, and I don't think they'll last long), so hopefully they'll start fighting each other soon :).

  • @michaelkats6196
    @michaelkats6196 5 років тому +10

    Playing the Rebel campaign it's like trying to establish a socialist mulinationational confederation ,before Jesus Christ is born.

  • @bullet6177
    @bullet6177 5 років тому +6

    Ya was waiting for this

  • @canadian__ninja
    @canadian__ninja 4 роки тому +3

    The fact that this was not released on April 1 is a missed opportunity

  • @AleronWolf
    @AleronWolf 4 роки тому +12

    Actually pronounced Seleki(ee)ds. These Latin namings have hard C that pronounced as K. Just saying.
    Also just call it Anatolia. It's more fitting name. It's like idk 1000 years before Turks will come to that region?

  • @hrishikeshjoshi5222
    @hrishikeshjoshi5222 5 років тому +7

    Hey Lugotorix, great to see you channel growing. I've been subscribed since the Greek Cities campaign, and really like the fact that you keep putting up RTW vids, even in 2019!
    I just had a question, what are your PC specs? I've tried to play the Steam version of RTW on my laptop, which has decent specs, and Windows 10. When I play it, my campaign map has a frame rate of 10! Dunno if you can help, but thought I'd ask anyway.

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +4

      Hey man, thanks for the kind words and the support. I have a laptop that doesn't even have that good specs tbh (i3 core). The problem with RTW is that it was designed to run off old pcs with a single core, so sometimes having good specs is a bad thing for playing this game. There are several things you can do though. One thing is download a file called d3d8.dll (search it on google). This removes certain assets like the trade ships which really slow the campaign map down (only problem is that sometimes it causes graphics problems, if so just remove the file). That file works for me and sped the game up greatly. Another thing you can do is play with the graphics settings (for example turning of shadows really helped me). Best of luck, and if you need more help let me know

    • @hrishikeshjoshi5222
      @hrishikeshjoshi5222 5 років тому +2

      @@lugotorix6173 Thanks a lot mate! That worked, so I'm going to go 'unleash hell'. ;)
      Keep up the content! I was a bit sad to see that you won't be doing full campaigns, but no worries, you do you bro. Any RTW (or any Total War) content is great to see, and I hope your channel keeps growing.
      Cheers!

  • @stephenhartley2853
    @stephenhartley2853 4 роки тому +2

    i have a theory why hibernia is the capital of rebels. if im not mistaken it is the most north westerly rebel province in the game, so if you were reading the map like a book hibernia would come first. no idea if its true

    • @majdavlk649
      @majdavlk649 4 роки тому

      ireland is hibernia ? maybe it has ID 1

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 8 місяців тому

    Not having to worry about public order is a brilliant bit of balance for this campaign, it changes how you play a lot and would be nigh unplayable if you did have to factor it in

  • @cromwell1451
    @cromwell1451 3 роки тому +1

    Why the unplayable factions are set as "unplayable", especially when they are some of the most ineresting campaigns, is quite strange. I love playing the Dacians.

    • @tommyortiz6623
      @tommyortiz6623 2 роки тому

      Exactly they had the capability to make use of all of them

    • @AdrianOkay
      @AdrianOkay Рік тому +1

      because they could have the capability of crashing the game and that's something they cannot afford to allow
      but in the other hand it's so easy to add them back they know if anyone wanted to do so they could

  • @alifae9841
    @alifae9841 2 роки тому

    You also just randomly get settlements with powerful cheap units evey once in a while except Rome, that city never loses to public order for some reason.
    Like i was once playing in south, then i noticed one of the northern German cities was mine now, inside i had like gold armor silver weapon naked fanatics and some other good units.

  • @stephenhartley2853
    @stephenhartley2853 4 роки тому +2

    i never understood why peltasts were 170 in upkeep, they clearly aint as good as archers or even slingers

  • @michaelkats6196
    @michaelkats6196 5 років тому +2

    If spartacus had navy ,he would have established a state in the Sicily island.Maybe the history would have changed for ever.

    • @brandenw1833
      @brandenw1833 5 років тому +2

      @@leighton5608 no u

    • @leighton5608
      @leighton5608 5 років тому

      @@brandenw1833 ?

    • @tomm9963
      @tomm9963 4 роки тому +4

      @@leighton5608 "Wasn't Spartacus a communist?" Yeah Karl Marx used his teachings when writing Das Kapital and Communist Manifesto. Completely braindead

    • @-CrimsoN-
      @-CrimsoN- 4 роки тому

      @@leighton5608 Is this a joke?

    • @jasonfenton8250
      @jasonfenton8250 2 роки тому

      @@leighton5608 Impossible to describe anyone from the ancient world as a communist. Communism is a modernist ideology and a response to the contradictions of capitalism. Spartacus predates both the modern period, modernism, and capitalism. Yes, the ancient world had markets but not all societies with markets are capitalist and certainly not in antiquity.

  • @mikehiday2273
    @mikehiday2273 5 років тому +1

    Please do a rebel campaign again I’m begging you I haven’t really watched videos since the rebel campaign

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому

      I might livestream it in the future :)

  • @MetalMergz
    @MetalMergz 4 роки тому

    Hey Lugotorix, great Video thank you so much! There was one thing you forgot to mention about the rebels, which is those rare times where there’s a “gladiator revolt” and you end up with a settlement full of Velites Gladiators and the “Yubtseb” elephants (Bestbuy backwards!). How effective are the elephants and the gladiator units?

  • @Althemor
    @Althemor 4 роки тому

    Hm, I could swear when I tried this once it wasn't possible to build units as rebels...
    then again, that was in an older version of this game. And more than a decade ago.

  • @thecrazytophatman7304
    @thecrazytophatman7304 5 років тому +7

    Ahh yes, I remember it was a crisp 2013 day, Looking at the files...
    I WONDRR WUT HAPENS WHEN I MOVE UNPLAYABLE INTO PLAYABLE
    -2013 Tophatman
    Great vid as always but... why give up the settlement with the Amazon warriors

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому

      Haha that must have been a great day. Did I say that? I like the amazon settlement, there’s a mine and it’s very rarely attacked. I would move the troops out of there because they’re more use elsewhere, but I wouldn’t forfeit the settlement

  • @Mr.Obongo
    @Mr.Obongo 3 роки тому +1

    What happens if a settlement revolts in this situation? 🧐 what faction does that settlement become?

  • @jollyg6365
    @jollyg6365 2 роки тому +1

    They start in Ireland because of the IRA. Bless them.

  • @Cx10110100
    @Cx10110100 4 роки тому +1

    Points at estonia: "Russia whatever"

  • @Curtisshane
    @Curtisshane 5 років тому +1

    Is there anyway you could do the Alexander campaign?? Love the vids
    Man!

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      Thanks a lot, I haven't got any imminent plans but maybe in the future

  • @stopthis7158
    @stopthis7158 5 років тому +2

    You should do a guide for spqr!

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      Certainly will do at some point :)

  • @Surykatkazkosmosu
    @Surykatkazkosmosu 5 років тому +1

    I had no idea this is possible. I tried to play as rebels one time, but the game just crashed when i clicked the "start campaign" button. Too bad you didn't show how the diplomacy works :/

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +2

      Have you seen my video on how to unlock the Rebels? Sometimes a bug can happen where if you move all the factions into playable the game crashes when you load, it's best to always leave at least one faction in the unplayable section. I hope this helps :)

    • @Surykatkazkosmosu
      @Surykatkazkosmosu 5 років тому

      @@lugotorix6173 Thanks, I'll check the video :) You made me want to install Rome again :D

  • @Waterford1992
    @Waterford1992 5 років тому

    Next...
    Dahae Faction Guide: Rome Total War Alexander

  • @HippasosofMetapontum
    @HippasosofMetapontum 3 роки тому

    i boost rebels in mods always, cause i think they are too week, btw rebels are not known as rebels back in the time but mostly just single controlled nations ^_^ so almost every city is another government / State - would've been more impressive to make everything into a new faction, same with German, Gaul tribes and having a Ting /Thing in Germany like the senat in Rome to fight larger enemies

  • @footballforlife2643
    @footballforlife2643 5 років тому

    I hope after ur rebels campaign u would do a carthage campaign

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому

      Maybe on livestream at some point, you never know

  • @Superwing
    @Superwing 3 роки тому

    What part of the UK are you from? I know someone with the exact same accent!!!

  • @DaCrazyMofo
    @DaCrazyMofo 5 років тому +1

    Are you gonna do other tw games besides Rome BI

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      Probably at some point, I have made some medieval 2 videos which you can check out in the meantime :)

  • @kevg1617
    @kevg1617 4 роки тому

    Why would public order be that much of an issue if it's low? Are they going to rebel and become part of a faction?

    • @indieWellie
      @indieWellie Рік тому

      it can happen in at least a couple of settlements. keep an eye on massilia and cyrene.

  • @szekhar7602
    @szekhar7602 3 роки тому

    so, who do settlements join when they rebel??????

  • @mp6471
    @mp6471 5 місяців тому

    Screw the Romans, Rebel empire is gonna rule the World!!

  • @pieterjancorneel1069
    @pieterjancorneel1069 5 років тому

    I love your vids

  • @izzycatzi3648
    @izzycatzi3648 5 років тому +3

    R u gonna finish this campaign

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      No sorry, but I might do similar things in the future

    • @izzycatzi3648
      @izzycatzi3648 5 років тому

      Lugotorix ok

    • @arthurbuder
      @arthurbuder 5 років тому

      I finished that campaign and it was the most interesting campaign in this game, everyone should try it

    • @izzycatzi3648
      @izzycatzi3648 5 років тому

      Artur Buderatskyi I will

  • @brakonierrr7067
    @brakonierrr7067 4 роки тому

    Do the Wonders have their effects as normally in the Rebel Campaign?

  • @mynameis4113
    @mynameis4113 3 роки тому

    Wait a minute... Is the rebel faction able to recruit every unit in the game?

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 8 місяців тому

    If you could train assassins you could win without starting a single battle

  • @melkhiordarkfell4354
    @melkhiordarkfell4354 3 роки тому

    Is there any way to unlock Rebels without coding? Unlocking them in game? Or playing as them in custom?

    • @jasonfenton8250
      @jasonfenton8250 2 роки тому +2

      It's hardly coding, it's super easy, just editing one line in a text file.
      Go to wherever your Rome: Total War is installed. On Steam you can go to game properties and click on "browse local files". This will open the folder Rome is installed in. In the Rome directory, click on data, world, Imperial campaign, you'll see a text file called descr_strat. Open it and you'll see the list of factions, rebels will be under unplayable. Cut the word rebels from unplayable and paste it in the playable section. Launch the game and rebels should be there.

  • @Qladstone
    @Qladstone 3 роки тому

    This is the weirdest thing in TW ever.

  • @kingcrescent7295
    @kingcrescent7295 2 роки тому

    Can you play as the rebels on IOS?

  • @SuperMoodyyy
    @SuperMoodyyy 5 років тому

    Too bad you can’t play these on mobile :( this is such a fun campaign used to play them when i was young

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      Yeah I agree, the mobile version is quite limited comparatively

  • @szekhar7602
    @szekhar7602 4 роки тому

    What happens if public order gets too low? Do the rebels take over?🤣🤣

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  4 роки тому +1

      haha no I believe that its impossible to rebel settlements to revolt

  • @wolfchan.8513
    @wolfchan.8513 5 років тому +2

    You actuallly did it!
    You dodn"t show units

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      Yeah finally haha. Yeah unfortunately it wasn't easy to show all the units but I might make a video in the future on rebel units to compensate

  • @MattyMadderzz
    @MattyMadderzz 5 років тому

    Can you lose settlements to revolts as the rebel’s

  • @izzycatzi3648
    @izzycatzi3648 5 років тому

    Bru come back

  • @ryanwild3056
    @ryanwild3056 5 років тому

    Could u do one on MTW 2

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 років тому +1

      I've never played the medieval 2 rebels but if I get a bit of experience with them I definitely will make a guide

    • @ryanwild3056
      @ryanwild3056 5 років тому

      @@lugotorix6173 Thanks

  • @ВадимАлексеевич-м7ц

    Как играть за эту фракцыю