The Luckiest No Rotation Game (BetaTetris NoRo)

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
  • More than 3 years ago, I created my first NES Tetris AI that played no rotation, well before BetaTetris was developed. Over these years, I've learned a lot from developing BetaTetris, so recently I decided to revisit the no rotation format and trained a new agent.
    After completing the training, I ran 100,000 games on 50,000 randomly-generated TetrisGYM seeds (left well and right well for each seed). For all but two seeds, the maximum score was 80 lines, except for this one game that was a huge outlier, as well as another game with 90 lines.
    Based on my estimation from the score distribution of other games, this agent can achieve 103+ lines in approximately only 1 in 5~6 million games (0.00002%). It is thus extremely lucky to found this seed even with 100,000 games. I ran an additional 300,000 games and did not find another game with more than 95 lines.
    This is a no limits run, meaning the agent can react to the next box instantly, but it didn't know the seed and the piece sequence beforehand.
    The agent achieves an average of 30.6 lines in this format (level 0 start, no limits), 6.2 lines higher than the previous noro agent. It achieves 30 lines in about 52% of the games, 35 in 30%, 40 in 15%, 45 in 6.7%, 50 in 2.6%, 55 in 1%, 60 in 0.33%, 65 in 0.1%, and 70 in 0.03~0.04% of the games. It also showed no statistically significant difference between the left and right well on level 0 with no rotation. At higher speeds (15, 19, 29 starts), right well performed slightly better (0.2 lines higher on average).
    This no rotation agent can also play with / without adjustments, with / without tuck, and various starting levels (0, 9, 15, 19, 29). Gameplays in different formats are coming out soon!
    The source code and the model are both available in this repository: github.com/adrien1018/betatet... (documentation not available yet)
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  • @adrien_1018
    @adrien_1018  25 днів тому +5

    Zoltan has provided an analysis for this game! You can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/ReyV6wpqcSc/v-deo.html

  • @OS_Erol
    @OS_Erol 27 днів тому +195

    They should make a game like this but where you can rotate the pieces, i think a lot of people would play it, it seems pretty underrated

    • @darker4793
      @darker4793 27 днів тому +17

      That would be the worst decision in the history of video games, that would never work and even worse if they make it for portable consoles

    • @OS_Erol
      @OS_Erol 27 днів тому +11

      @@darker4793 imagine if they added a level that was so fast you could barely tap fast enough to still play well, surely no one could ever beat that right?

    • @zZeimos
      @zZeimos 26 днів тому +2

      Imagine they had to add a faster speed for all the pros. That would be so sick.

    • @raffimolero64
      @raffimolero64 26 днів тому +8

      ​@@OS_Erol No way that would work. Knowing the software industry nowadays, they'd release a half-written beta build with a bunch of glitches that completely break the game and call it an "Early Access" and all the patches would have to be implemented through community modding.
      Hell, games are so badly optimized in this day and age that I wouldn't be surprised if basic *math* caused the game to crash.

    • @jayxone
      @jayxone 26 днів тому +2

      Now imagine if they made it so that you get REWARDED for spinning, it would absolutely ruin the original spirit of the game

  • @raineyoung3291
    @raineyoung3291 26 днів тому +20

    this is a really weird but effective way of stacking for no rotation... never thought that stacking horizontally would get that far.

  • @golden_rod
    @golden_rod 27 днів тому +35

    zoltan taking notes

  • @user-sc2xl5mk5f
    @user-sc2xl5mk5f 26 днів тому +6

    3:00 even got combos more than I've ever got in this version of the game

  •  27 днів тому +13

    It does the PC setups I am very proud but stacks on left?!
    It effortlessly gets 100 lines like wtf dude?!?!?

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  27 днів тому +12

      It just happens that this game is right well (it can do both left or right well and I run both) - there is basically no difference between left and right on low levels
      and 100 lines is the power of having 1 in 5 million luck :)

  • @WriteWordsMakeMagic
    @WriteWordsMakeMagic 26 днів тому +1

    Insane!

  • @ajaxmajor
    @ajaxmajor 27 днів тому +13

    pretty good, but when I did no rotation I cleared 103 and a half lines

    • @usernameunkn0wn-1
      @usernameunkn0wn-1 26 днів тому +2

      Wdym half

    • @Austin_Playz27
      @Austin_Playz27 26 днів тому +8

      its a joke 103 lines would be far beyond wr

    • @joshk147
      @joshk147 26 днів тому +8

      A line is a line you can't say it's only a half

    • @Andrux0821
      @Andrux0821 26 днів тому

      @@joshk147ok josh “k” 147

    • @superburger1122
      @superburger1122 23 дні тому

      ​@@joshk147 well i actually can but yeah this guy cant

  • @maxelkjaernersting
    @maxelkjaernersting 26 днів тому +2

    Approximately ten times better than me ……

  • @docpi3141
    @docpi3141 26 днів тому +2

    incredible

  • @triskai
    @triskai 27 днів тому +6

    🔥

  • @cmyk8964
    @cmyk8964 26 днів тому +1

    A triumph of AI

  • @irrigamii
    @irrigamii 26 днів тому +2

    This is insane wtf

  • @kruks
    @kruks 24 дні тому

    I know Tetris well and I can't make heads or tails of the strategy without rotation. It's eery.

  • @iwersonsch5131
    @iwersonsch5131 27 днів тому +2

    How far can this agent get if it knows the next 4 pieces?

    •  27 днів тому +1

      Probably 4-500 at least

  • @sonicclang
    @sonicclang 21 день тому +1

    Ok, starting at level 0, they're not that fast. How much did you speed this up?

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  21 день тому +1

      It is because all the pieces are pushed down as much as possible (see the input display on the lower left). The video is not sped up.

  • @darrenlo9802
    @darrenlo9802 20 днів тому +1

    Zoltan better try this seed

  • @matthew99_
    @matthew99_ 27 днів тому +1

    GG

  • @nguyencraft0195
    @nguyencraft0195 27 днів тому +1

    why in the last piece, row 2 isnt cleared?

    • @tottiman3939
      @tottiman3939 26 днів тому +2

      well he topped out, maybe that's processed first

  • @Zempro
    @Zempro 26 днів тому +2

    jfc adrien

  • @aidanhennessey5586
    @aidanhennessey5586 24 дні тому

    Fire

  • @ryanamburgy2791
    @ryanamburgy2791 27 днів тому +1

    DAMN

  • @worldprops333
    @worldprops333 27 днів тому +9

    when is betatetris true rebirth

    • @bobczech7774
      @bobczech7774 27 днів тому +1

      lol

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  27 днів тому +3

      4 months ago :)

    • @worldprops333
      @worldprops333 27 днів тому

      @@adrien_1018 why didnt you upload it then all there is on channel is normal rebirth not 17,600 line piece rng reset true rebirth

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  26 днів тому +1

      Oh I thought you meant original ROM
      then no since RNG/framecount reset requires RNG manipulation, it is only doable using TAS

    • @worldprops333
      @worldprops333 26 днів тому

      @@adrien_1018 ok

  • @user-vw6lh4nh8p
    @user-vw6lh4nh8p 21 день тому +3

    cheating! you clearly did rotate the block piece multiple times!

  • @codygrandell
    @codygrandell 27 днів тому +1

    You should compare this to stack rabbit

  • @David30007
    @David30007 21 день тому +1

    You get thousands of views but only 551 subs.

  • @Isoundfiveyearsold
    @Isoundfiveyearsold 26 днів тому +3

    Now do rebirth, no rotation
    Is this tas or not?

    •  26 днів тому +4

      this is AI not TAS

  • @Triscap_193
    @Triscap_193 27 днів тому

    Did bro use tas?