Finding a water line for my yard sprinkler system is soooooo easy. All I have to do is buy a tree or bush to plant and where ever I dig the hole I will hit a line lol.
This is what I like about your videos .You are always willing to show us when things go wrong ( just as they do for all of us in the real world ) and you"re also willing to admit you've made a mistake and own up to it. The honesty is really appreciated. Can't wait to see how this all works out. Keep up the good work guys.
Another great video. I agree with the other commenters that I enjoy how you aren’t afraid to show projects that don’t finish the way you planned. I think too often we watch other channels and only see projects where everything works out. Then when we run into issues it discourages us even more. But experience many times comes from mistakes, learning from them, and moving on. Thanks for the encouragement and the “real” videos! God bless.
Usually the problem is hitting things you don't want to be there like rocks and buried utilities. Rarely is the problem digging a huge hole and finding nothing.
Tim - loved the drone footage. Really adds to the story. Hearing your audio come through while we’re watching a different angle makes it more interesting. Great job!
I learned about using divining rods to find water when I was a teenager. It was certainly effective mapping known water lines. As an adult, I watched the local utility expert lay out the pressurized sewer line and the water supply lines. They were not mapped in my area. I'm glad the excavator didn't hit that sewer line. It's worth trying. Great video!
Trying to find water lines without a tracer wire is super difficult. Some people dont believe in them, but we use witching sticks to find water lines like that. We make them out of the wire from the locating flags. Not sure if it would help you or not, but might be worth a try. Your skills with the back hoe were very good Tim! I wish you luck and hope you find the line soon.
Knew I could find water with a limb. Seen a backhoe man find a lost backhoe tooth in a 100 by 200 feet building sight using welding rods 40 years ago. It was 6 feet deep. I have kept a set of rods in each vehicle since. Find it before you dig. Saves a lot of work an heartache.
Bought my heavy hitch tooth bar last week. Put it to work on Monday. It was incredible! We ripped out old flower beds in record time including the old underlayment. Only thing bad was I dropped it on my foot.... it’s heavy!!
Just added a frost proof hydrant in my yard. Won’t even say how much time it took. Water line was over 30’ away from where I was told it was. I was told that it was DEEP. Found the depth limit on my BX23S multiple times. Finally had to give up locating it in the yard and had to go to the meter and trace it back. Three feet after it left the meter, it dove under the concrete driveway. No wonder I couldn’t find it, was not where I was told it was going to be. I completely understand your frustration on this project, mine was very similar.
I should probably come dig it for you. I installed a new drain tile for my downspouts last fall and hit four irrigation lines without even trying. As a result, I’m a pretty good plumber now too. Add low voltage electrician to that list of new skills also...almost forgot about all the repaired irrigation valve controller lines. Good times.
Tim/Christy, another great video. This is a great reminder that not all projects go as planned, even though you did all the right stuff i.e call 811, consult with the electrician... can I offer a few backhoe operator tips? 1- keep your front bucket low and parallel to your trench. 2- keep your stabilizer pads also low. The reason you would want to do this, is that if the trench was to cave in, hopefully the front bucket or stabilizers would prevent you from falling in. If you did fall in, I am not sure the backhoe would have enough power to raise you up... you guys do a great job and I appreciate the honesty in your videos..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You needed me on that project. I could have found that line easy. I once found my phone line with a T-post! Yep, randomly chose a spot for my electric fence, drove the post and completely cut the line. I didn't knick it, I cut it right through the center. I had 5.5 acres to drive that post, and I found the 1/4" phone line. Should have bought a lottery ticket that day. : )
A helpful suggestion for when you guys do end up putting in the new water line would be to bury a tracer wire next to the new water pipe. I've seen this done on a This Old House project. It won't help with your current conundrum of finding the current buried water line, but it will help in the future if the new water line ever needs to be located.
You can locate the water line using dousing rods. Take two peices of copper wire about 18 inches long. Bend them into an L shape. Hold them In your hands loosely, with the long end pointing away from you. Then walk slowly, when you are right above the water line the rods will swing inward. Let me know if that helps. We do it all the time at work to locate stuff in the ground
You can rent a locator and do it yourself but the cheaper ones don’t work on plastic pipe. I am glad to see the old pipe was not the one you wanted because those rubber clamps are not made for pressure. They will blow off in a week or two. They do make some but they are covered with a metal mesh. Good luck trying to find it. Lol we used to witch them with a couple of rods, it does work if you can practice on a few lines to get the feel for it. Some people don’t think it works but I have found to many this way.
Tim I’m continually impressed with the 270B. The mud bucket was doing it easily! The 270B appears as good as a 1.7 tonne excavator. Or at least as close to a 1.7 tonne unit.
I always wondered if it was better to have a separate seat for the backhoe or not. You answered that question (@14:50). ;-). Also I wonder if a silicone spray in the bucket would help with the clay/dirt sticking? It helps with my snowblower.
A good way to keep dirt from sticking to the sides of a bucket is cut some chain about 4-10 links long depending on how big the bucket is. Then weld one link into the back of the corner of the bucket. It helps keep the dirt from sticking. 🇺🇸
Well how disappointing y’all didn’t find the water line. That’s always a problem when people don’t measure and record where in ground utilities are. (when possible) At least y’all were blessed with good clear weather and a good review of the two buckets. 👍
The only complaints I ever have is waiting for the next episode!! Especially during this quarantine. Problems like that are real life. It’s good to see them, and how you deal with them.
Great video! Just someones memory of where they think the water line is to go on..So it's poke and hope. Sketchy towards the end, but fun to watch! Thank you!
You may have been able to “witch” the existing water line with a couple of bent at 45deg coat hangers. I have done this multiple times for water and underground power lines. Works like the cats meow.
Installed many miles of water mains for the Indianapolis water company and they require 4 feet of cover ovwr their mains. Digging one winter in compacted fill the ground was frozen solid to 42 inches near Noblesville. Just fyi.
Tim, you really need to try a dowsing rod - it is not magic or witchcraft - The guy who did my septic work used one to find the drain field and let me give it a try - I was amazed - later I helped the phone company locate the phone line cable that runs across my front lawn. It works great for locating underground cables and pipes
An interesting episode would be what attachments are better to buy with the tractor (and financing) and what are better to buy aftermarket? Also, is there a trencher made for the front 1025 or 2038 like you had on Venmar? Trenching with a backhoe while lookinfor something is fine but in general isn't nearly as efficient what you did with the Venmar at your neighbor's place.
I've actually seen one that a contractor had on the trailer attached to the 3pt of a HST John Deere compact tractor at the truck stop, but I haven't seen one on the front end, but it would be far easier to see on the 3pt.
Any helpful hints for changing out the backhoe buckets? Just got a 12 inch bucket for my yanmar lx490, the whole backhoe is pretty much a clone from the Deere 4 series. It wasn’t bad putting the 12 inch on but going back to my 24 inch lining that pin back up with the thumb also made me wanna pull my hair out! Took about 45 minuets. Makes you appreciate the quick change on the mini ex!
water and power lines on farms must be tough! How many owners and problems through time. Around here we have a service that can sense power, phone and water up to and including 20' deep. They find a source on top and attach to it a transmitter - and then start walking with a receiver to find connections. We have 3 buried hi voltage lines, three water lines coming from a single source and a phone line. Several owner lines of AC wire just in the ground not connected on either end... This property was a farm and then almost 75 years ago it became a Sawmill that logged the region. Now moved out I have a large chunk of what it was. Life is tough in the trenches (WW I saying).
Just a thought but using a utility probe rod works well for probing deeper into the trench prior to digging. Its not an exact science but it can save some digging and also might identify a line prior to digging through it. Most backhoe contractors use them as they dig.
When using the front in loader place the backhoe under slight strain against the storage locking pin. This will stop it form building momentum and shocking the frame of the tractor, plus it makes it a lot more comfortable to operate.
I had to find a water line once. Cut the pipe where I knew I could find it and stuck a steel fish tape up it. Then I could put a tracer on the fish tape and mark the whole line. Food for thought.
Justinsr1983 think about the contaminants you introduce to the potable water line before you do that....lots of nasty disease from bad water. It's one thing to do it for yourself but if you do that for a customer you are opening yourself up for a lawsuit. Just my two cents from a 30 year master plumber
No problem to find water pipe underground get a length of wire about 12 INCHES LONG bend it L shaped hold it upright in your hand and walk across where u think it is the wire will go mad in your hand when your over it
If possible you can find that new pvc extended line and cut it. Then you can run a rigid sewer cam if the line is big enough and use the locator feature to pinpoint it.
Only problem is it’s a sewer camera!! Where do you think the camera has been? You can never use a sewer camera in a potable water service. I’m sure Tim has a electricians fish tape and maybe ask to borrow a plumbers line locator. That’s how most Plumbers do a job like that, just no sewer cameras or sewer snakes in water lines. Thanks
I appreciate that you share your failures, this was still a great video. When you were talking about the four wheel drive lever not working, I was reminded of my ex-wife. She was a leaver. :|
Tim Christi went we dig we have same problem always takes to much time finging some things under ground wish you all the luck in the world God Bless All PaK
@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you Tim. Looks like they are out of stock on those. BTW, I am learning a lot through your content, I am just starting on my 2038r.
I've heard that they put a wire beside the line when they bury them around here now days in order to be able to find the lines again, but the frostline is only about a foot deep here, typical burial of a waterline only requires 12-18 inches for the most part. Could you not just trench from the meter and T off at that point where you know you can find it? I'm not sure how far away you were from that point.
Rex was correct, the rt tire looked hanging half over the trench. Could not see lft tire y;all were talking about. The millings is something I keep hearing from persons in your area, North of the Mason Dixon Line. Dirt Perfect in Derby IN, used them on his driveway and in front of his shop. Tracked em in with the skid steer then rolled them down with roller. Get a deep enough base and rolled in, I see nothing wrong with it. We see recycled concrete for road base then tar and chip seal mostly.
You know what, Tim? Keep doing what you are doing. I enjoy your channel and videos. IIRC, you work in IT or programming and I really like how you have your channel. Now I just want to know if I can get a 24" flat bottom bucket for my Massey GC-1720.
Tim I will make a suggestion weld a couple of old chains inside the bucket while your in sticky clay your bucket will stay a lot cleaner hope this tip helps.
Last year I had a leak on my county water to the house. My meter is on my far side of my property 1/4 of a mile away through a creek and up a very steep hill. We found our line using divining rod’s. I was a amazed in two try’s they found it. The first found ground water the second nailed it. Both holes were dug a good 1/8 of mile from the know line at either end so we could run the new line through the old pvc to prevent to much digging.
I've used this method to locate underground cables, gas and water lines, etc and it does work. I've even seen professional locators use it when they couldn't find a trace wire to latch on to. However, in Tim's situation he probably would have found that metal pipe and would have been in the same situation. It would have taken someone with a lot of experience to trace the line from a known location out to where they were looking to dig.
Did you think about calling Bloodhound out of Brownsburg? They should be able to locate it for you. Not sure about the $$$ though. I talked to them about doing a few jobs for me but never ended up using them.
I would think of laying a steel cable over the top of the pipe for a future metal detector to find would make it a bit easier, as long as it does not corrode. Or cut strips and paint the pattern when it’s found? If it were PVC pipe, how would the 811 utilities crew find it if there is no metal?
Ssooo what you are saying is use the “Poke and pray” method when digging or hope my child hood memories of where those lines are would be accurate? Perhaps poking around well box to find the outbound line and going from there might work? Poke and pray. Poke and pray🤪👍
Drone footage was great, no need to beat yourself up, water lines are hard to find only when you're looking for them. Easy to find when you're not. 😄. Will there be a sequel to this video?
Yes. Think about the situation. We didn’t know the theme of the video while shooting. We assumed we would find the line, connect, and be done. By the time we gave up on finding the line, we were all exhausted. No energy (or care) to explain all we did on video. If you notice, we didn’t even shoot a video closer. Such is reality when things don’t work out.
UA-cam has quite a bit of info on “how to find buried utility lines” so of 811 won’t help them acquiring the tools might be second best method with a bit of training.
It works with snow but you could try using Pam cooking spray on the inside of the bucket to keep the clay from sticking not sure how it will work with dirt but it works with snow
what i did on my property is use the drone footage to mark out existing pipes, electrics and coms, im still finding old pipes and drains from when my great great grand pappy buried them, including some old iron machinery parts buried in clay, found a car once when we bought the property next door and buried new electric supply line...
Water witch. The way to go. Take a copper wire #12 bend it right angle it about 18” inch’s long make two. Use gloves it works for me this way. Hold about 5 inches into the hand long right side pointed forward now walk over a know water line see if it works for you. For me it could detect the a water line. Phone lines. Sewer lines electric lines. Leach fields. And the rough depth. You walk at right angle to the line and the rods will swing out to show where they are. It doesn’t work for everyone
Tim, I just recently got my tooth bar from Heavy Hitch and so far I love it. Thanks for letting us know about these great products
Finding a water line for my yard sprinkler system is soooooo easy. All I have to do is buy a tree or bush to plant and where ever I dig the hole I will hit a line lol.
This is what I like about your videos .You are always willing to show us when things go wrong ( just as they do for all of us in the real world ) and you"re also willing to admit you've made a mistake and own up to it. The honesty is really appreciated. Can't wait to see how this all works out. Keep up the good work guys.
Another great video. I agree with the other commenters that I enjoy how you aren’t afraid to show projects that don’t finish the way you planned. I think too often we watch other channels and only see projects where everything works out. Then when we run into issues it discourages us even more. But experience many times comes from mistakes, learning from them, and moving on. Thanks for the encouragement and the “real” videos! God bless.
Now I want to know where that water line is!! I hope you film part 2!
Usually the problem is hitting things you don't want to be there like rocks and buried utilities. Rarely is the problem digging a huge hole and finding nothing.
Tim - loved the drone footage. Really adds to the story. Hearing your audio come through while we’re watching a different angle makes it more interesting. Great job!
I learned about using divining rods to find water when I was a teenager. It was certainly effective mapping known water lines. As an adult, I watched the local utility expert lay out the pressurized sewer line and the water supply lines. They were not mapped in my area. I'm glad the excavator didn't hit that sewer line. It's worth trying. Great video!
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, this time you won for showing how it's possible to lose. Good video Tim. 🙋♂️👍
That 270B and 2038R makes for a great combo. If only mine would get here! Cant wait anymore...
That backhoe attachment is the best locator there is....it finds everything you don’t want to find. 35 years plumbing taught me that
Nothing but respect for you for posting the "failure" video. We've all been there. I look forward to part 2 and seeing how you solved the problem.
Trying to find water lines without a tracer wire is super difficult. Some people dont believe in them, but we use witching sticks to find water lines like that. We make them out of the wire from the locating flags. Not sure if it would help you or not, but might be worth a try. Your skills with the back hoe were very good Tim!
I wish you luck and hope you find the line soon.
Knew I could find water with a limb. Seen a backhoe man find a lost backhoe tooth in a 100 by 200 feet building sight using welding rods 40 years ago. It was 6 feet deep. I have kept a set of rods in each vehicle since.
Find it before you dig. Saves a lot of work an heartache.
Hi Tim and Christy nice video unfortunately Tim plans don't always work out but one thing for sure you gave it your best
Bought my heavy hitch tooth bar last week. Put it to work on Monday. It was incredible! We ripped out old flower beds in record time including the old underlayment. Only thing bad was I dropped it on my foot.... it’s heavy!!
Just added a frost proof hydrant in my yard. Won’t even say how much time it took. Water line was over 30’ away from where I was told it was. I was told that it was DEEP. Found the depth limit on my BX23S multiple times. Finally had to give up locating it in the yard and had to go to the meter and trace it back. Three feet after it left the meter, it dove under the concrete driveway. No wonder I couldn’t find it, was not where I was told it was going to be. I completely understand your frustration on this project, mine was very similar.
I should probably come dig it for you. I installed a new drain tile for my downspouts last fall and hit four irrigation lines without even trying. As a result, I’m a pretty good plumber now too. Add low voltage electrician to that list of new skills also...almost forgot about all the repaired irrigation valve controller lines. Good times.
Great video Tim! Sometimes it doesn't workout no matter how much you want it to.
Tim/Christy, another great video. This is a great reminder that not all projects go as planned, even though you did all the right stuff i.e call 811, consult with the electrician... can I offer a few backhoe operator tips? 1- keep your front bucket low and parallel to your trench. 2- keep your stabilizer pads also low. The reason you would want to do this, is that if the trench was to cave in, hopefully the front bucket or stabilizers would prevent you from falling in. If you did fall in, I am not sure the backhoe would have enough power to raise you up... you guys do a great job and I appreciate the honesty in your videos..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You needed me on that project. I could have found that line easy. I once found my phone line with a T-post! Yep, randomly chose a spot for my electric fence, drove the post and completely cut the line. I didn't knick it, I cut it right through the center. I had 5.5 acres to drive that post, and I found the 1/4" phone line. Should have bought a lottery ticket that day. : )
You proceeded with caution. No one got hurt, another successful video!
💥 That looks like it was a very frustrating job! I felt sorry for you guys.
*Keep on tractoring!*
TTWT the power that tractor has is amazing, it dug right through that muddy soil and rocky top with ease, i was impressed beyond belief.
Wow what a pain, but you did get to play in the dirt like we all love to do, better luck next time.
Thanks for sharing
Be well be safe out there
A helpful suggestion for when you guys do end up putting in the new water line would be to bury a tracer wire next to the new water pipe. I've seen this done on a This Old House project. It won't help with your current conundrum of finding the current buried water line, but it will help in the future if the new water line ever needs to be located.
You can locate the water line using dousing rods. Take two peices of copper wire about 18 inches long. Bend them into an L shape. Hold them In your hands loosely, with the long end pointing away from you. Then walk slowly, when you are right above the water line the rods will swing inward. Let me know if that helps. We do it all the time at work to locate stuff in the ground
And.... I enjoy your tenacity!! Take care! Kapper Out.
I might give out but I will never give up !! Thanks for sharing
It’s good to show that not every project has a positive ending. Very pretty place. I’m liking the opening even better. Good job.......
You can rent a locator and do it yourself but the cheaper ones don’t work on plastic pipe. I am glad to see the old pipe was not the one you wanted because those rubber clamps are not made for pressure. They will blow off in a week or two. They do make some but they are covered with a metal mesh. Good luck trying to find it. Lol we used to witch them with a couple of rods, it does work if you can practice on a few lines to get the feel for it. Some people don’t think it works but I have found to many this way.
Tim I’m continually impressed with the 270B.
The mud bucket was doing it easily!
The 270B appears as good as a 1.7 tonne excavator. Or at least as close to a 1.7 tonne unit.
I think I want one of those 24" buckets as well. They are nice!
Wow, thank you for keeping it real! Been there on some projects! Nice video overall! Thanks!
I always wondered if it was better to have a separate seat for the backhoe or not. You answered that question (@14:50). ;-). Also I wonder if a silicone spray in the bucket would help with the clay/dirt sticking? It helps with my snowblower.
Would ground penetrating radar work for this scenario?
Divining rods.. they seem to work, although I don't know if those tiles will activate them as well.
A good way to keep dirt from sticking to the sides of a bucket is cut some chain about 4-10 links long depending on how big the bucket is. Then weld one link into the back of the corner of the bucket. It helps keep the dirt from sticking. 🇺🇸
Tim, I'm curious if you had tried dowsing with the wood sticks trick would have helped locate the waterline?
I like the outdoor area for service. Beautiful.
Well how disappointing y’all didn’t find the water line. That’s always a problem when people don’t measure and record where in ground utilities are. (when possible) At least y’all were blessed with good clear weather and a good review of the two buckets. 👍
Given the age of the venue, any new work should have had tracer wire installed with the pipe.
Hope the revisit goes easier and is with less headaches.
Try spraying fluid film on the bucket. Works great on mower decks as well.
The only complaints I ever have is waiting for the next episode!! Especially during this quarantine. Problems like that are real life. It’s good to see them, and how you deal with them.
Great video! Just someones memory of where they think the water line is to go on..So it's poke and hope. Sketchy towards the end, but fun to watch! Thank you!
You may have been able to “witch” the existing water line with a couple of bent at 45deg coat hangers. I have done this multiple times for water and underground power lines. Works like the cats meow.
Installed many miles of water mains for the Indianapolis water company and they require 4 feet of cover ovwr their mains. Digging one winter in compacted fill the ground was frozen solid to 42 inches near Noblesville. Just fyi.
Tim, you really need to try a dowsing rod - it is not magic or witchcraft - The guy who did my septic work used one to find the drain field and let me give it a try - I was amazed - later I helped the phone company locate the phone line cable that runs across my front lawn. It works great for locating underground cables and pipes
Did you try dowsing rods to locate the pipe? I use copper brazing rods to find underground pipes. I can even tell which way the pipe is running.
An interesting episode would be what attachments are better to buy with the tractor (and financing) and what are better to buy aftermarket?
Also, is there a trencher made for the front 1025 or 2038 like you had on Venmar? Trenching with a backhoe while lookinfor something is fine but in general isn't nearly as efficient what you did with the Venmar at your neighbor's place.
I've actually seen one that a contractor had on the trailer attached to the 3pt of a HST John Deere compact tractor at the truck stop, but I haven't seen one on the front end, but it would be far easier to see on the 3pt.
Did just a casual search and found this www.deere.com/assets/pdfs/common/products/frontier/DT11_trencher.pdf
Any helpful hints for changing out the backhoe buckets? Just got a 12 inch bucket for my yanmar lx490, the whole backhoe is pretty much a clone from the Deere 4 series. It wasn’t bad putting the 12 inch on but going back to my 24 inch lining that pin back up with the thumb also made me wanna pull my hair out! Took about 45 minuets. Makes you appreciate the quick change on the mini ex!
water and power lines on farms must be tough! How many owners and problems through time. Around here we have a service that can sense power, phone and water up to and including 20' deep. They find a source on top and attach to it a transmitter - and then start walking with a receiver to find connections. We have 3 buried hi voltage lines, three water lines coming from a single source and a phone line. Several owner lines of AC wire just in the ground not connected on either end... This property was a farm and then almost 75 years ago it became a Sawmill that logged the region. Now moved out I have a large chunk of what it was. Life is tough in the trenches (WW I saying).
Just a thought but using a utility probe rod works well for probing deeper into the trench prior to digging. Its not an exact science but it can save some digging and also might identify a line prior to digging through it. Most backhoe contractors use them as they dig.
When using the front in loader place the backhoe under slight strain against the storage locking pin. This will stop it form building momentum and shocking the frame of the tractor, plus it makes it a lot more comfortable to operate.
When running new water lines bury a copper wire with it. Then you can use a toner to always find the lines in the future.
Always
Thanks Tim for sharing the comments on the forks what you recommend the best bang for the buck thanks again
Really enjoyed the video
Tim, your audio is sounding great!
It IS noticeably better! We were very happy with this system. A bit more cumbersome to use, but we think it will be manageable.
I had to find a water line once. Cut the pipe where I knew I could find it and stuck a steel fish tape up it. Then I could put a tracer on the fish tape and mark the whole line. Food for thought.
That’s a great idea I’m going to use that one
Justinsr1983 think about the contaminants you introduce to the potable water line before you do that....lots of nasty disease from bad water. It's one thing to do it for yourself but if you do that for a customer you are opening yourself up for a lawsuit. Just my two cents from a 30 year master plumber
Hopefully you find it soon👍
If the pipe is metal, you can use a tracer... from the existing faucet and track the signal to the feeder...
But you got to dig and dig. I can't, that's why I watch. Fun stuff!!
No problem to find water pipe underground get a length of wire about 12 INCHES LONG bend it L shaped hold it upright in your hand and walk across where u think it is the wire will go mad in your hand when your over it
yep its called witching water
Tim in my area the frost gets 6-8 feet deep depending on the winter conditions
If possible you can find that new pvc extended line and cut it. Then you can run a rigid sewer cam if the line is big enough and use the locator feature to pinpoint it.
Only problem is it’s a sewer camera!! Where do you think the camera has been? You can never use a sewer camera in a potable water service. I’m sure Tim has a electricians fish tape and maybe ask to borrow a plumbers line locator. That’s how most Plumbers do a job like that, just no sewer cameras or sewer snakes in water lines. Thanks
I appreciate that you share your failures, this was still a great video. When you were talking about the four wheel drive lever not working, I was reminded of my ex-wife. She was a leaver. :|
Sorry Curt! Was this recent?
@@TractorTimewithTim no, no, seems like a lifetime ago. Was really hard at the time, but I am in a much better place now.
Tim Christi went we dig we have same problem always takes to much time finging some things under ground wish you all the luck in the world
God Bless All
PaK
I surely sympathize. That had to be sooo frustrating. I guess a test of patience helps us better appreciate when things go smoothly. Blessings!
Thanks for the video. Where do you get the 24” bucket for JD?
MuddsCustoms.com use code ttwt for a 5% discount.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you Tim.
Looks like they are out of stock on those.
BTW, I am learning a lot through your content, I am just starting on my 2038r.
He can make you one I suspect. Email him.
I've heard that they put a wire beside the line when they bury them around here now days in order to be able to find the lines again, but the frostline is only about a foot deep here, typical burial of a waterline only requires 12-18 inches for the most part. Could you not just trench from the meter and T off at that point where you know you can find it? I'm not sure how far away you were from that point.
Rex was correct, the rt tire looked hanging half over the trench. Could not see lft tire y;all were talking about.
The millings is something I keep hearing from persons in your area, North of the Mason Dixon Line. Dirt Perfect in Derby IN, used them on his driveway and in front of his shop. Tracked em in with the skid steer then rolled them down with roller. Get a deep enough base and rolled in, I see nothing wrong with it. We see recycled concrete for road base then tar and chip seal mostly.
You know what, Tim? Keep doing what you are doing. I enjoy your channel and videos. IIRC, you work in IT or programming and I really like how you have your channel. Now I just want to know if I can get a 24" flat bottom bucket for my Massey GC-1720.
Tim, can you do a video sometime comparing the utility of a small tractor to a skid/track steer?
Don't know if it'll help, Tim, but, try witching rods...
Try dowsing for line. Use heavy copper wire. It works.
One of my exbosses welded a chain in the buckets that were 24" and it seems like it helped some
Great vid Tim
Tim said, “Ready or not here I crumb”
Tim I will make a suggestion weld a couple of old chains inside the bucket while your in sticky clay your bucket will stay a lot cleaner hope this tip helps.
Last year I had a leak on my county water to the house. My meter is on my far side of my property 1/4 of a mile away through a creek and up a very steep hill. We found our line using divining rod’s. I was a amazed in two try’s they found it. The first found ground water the second nailed it. Both holes were dug a good 1/8 of mile from the know line at either end so we could run the new line through the old pvc to prevent to much digging.
My old grandpa used two copper wires when they crossed , you got water 🤔😋😉old school . Lol
I've used this method to locate underground cables, gas and water lines, etc and it does work. I've even seen professional locators use it when they couldn't find a trace wire to latch on to. However, in Tim's situation he probably would have found that metal pipe and would have been in the same situation. It would have taken someone with a lot of experience to trace the line from a known location out to where they were looking to dig.
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Did you think about calling Bloodhound out of Brownsburg? They should be able to locate it for you. Not sure about the $$$ though. I talked to them about doing a few jobs for me but never ended up using them.
Is there a follow up video? I need to know where the correct line was.
We have not been invited back. Dunno if we will.
I got to see Joel this time, lol!
I would think of laying a steel cable over the top of the pipe for a future metal detector to find would make it a bit easier, as long as it does not corrode. Or cut strips and paint the pattern when it’s found? If it were PVC pipe, how would the 811 utilities crew find it if there is no metal?
811 crew will not even search for private lines.
Ssooo what you are saying is use the “Poke and pray” method when digging or hope my child hood memories of where those lines are would be accurate?
Perhaps poking around well box to find the outbound line and going from there might work? Poke and pray. Poke and pray🤪👍
Better luck next time hopefully the next time you find it
In Ontario Canada frost line is is 48 inch if I'm thinking right
Wow I always wondered that!!! Construction trade lol!!! Southern Indiana.
In Florida the frost line is at 1/4” lol
Drone footage was great, no need to beat yourself up, water lines are hard to find only when you're looking for them. Easy to find when you're not. 😄. Will there be a sequel to this video?
Yes.
@@TractorTimewithTim Awesome!
Nice job you do tim even if you fail this time
It would have been nice to see where the existing spigots are at. Please show that in the search for water pt. 2.
Yes. Think about the situation. We didn’t know the theme of the video while shooting.
We assumed we would find the line, connect, and be done.
By the time we gave up on finding the line, we were all exhausted. No energy (or care) to explain all we did on video.
If you notice, we didn’t even shoot a video closer. Such is reality when things don’t work out.
Did you check if both existing taps work either end of the pipe?
Uh, yea.
UA-cam has quite a bit of info on “how to find buried utility lines” so of 811 won’t help them acquiring the tools might be second best method with a bit of training.
The best laid plans of mice and men sometimes go awry! At least nothing got broken. Time to count your blessings!
i wander if heavy hitch would make a tooth bar for that bucket that way you would have the best of both maybe
It works with snow but you could try using Pam cooking spray on the inside of the bucket to keep the clay from sticking not sure how it will work with dirt but it works with snow
Hmm... how about blowing a mouse thru the line trailing a thin wire, that you could then use to trace the line with an electronic line locator?
what i did on my property is use the drone footage to mark out existing pipes, electrics and coms, im still finding old pipes and drains from when my great great grand pappy buried them, including some old iron machinery parts buried in clay, found a car once when we bought the property next door and buried new electric supply line...
Unfortunately couldn't locate the correct water line this time. Better luck on the next attempt!
Tim, could you put a link in for the Wedding Chapel?
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@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks
You could have tried witching sticks.
Yep, a previous comment was about "witching" or dowsing rods. That works great and most individuals can do it.
Water witch. The way to go. Take a copper wire #12 bend it right angle it about 18” inch’s long make two. Use gloves it works for me this way. Hold about 5 inches into the hand long right side pointed forward now walk over a know water line see if it works for you. For me it could detect the a water line. Phone lines. Sewer lines electric lines. Leach fields. And the rough depth. You walk at right angle to the line and the rods will swing out to show where they are. It doesn’t work for everyone
Need a person to witch for the water.
I thought this video was gonna demonstrate that!!