Thank you bud for your honest feedback. I have less than a year old Gen3 Evo and it seems I will be keeping it rather than an upgrade. You have convinced me as well. Gen 3 Evo with suspension set on Auto is the best commuter bike to my office in London. Great video from you as always!
Nice one Robbie was good to hear your opinion on the 1390 👍🏻👍🏻 my Gen 3 is due a service in a couple of months so will be trying to book a test ride on one at the same time 🏍️💨💨 ride safe buddy 🏍️💨💨💨👍🏻👍🏻
I’m in the same boat - with the same line up. 1290 and 690. I am booked to ride the 1390 next week, but like you, I think I’ll be keeping the 1290 due to having to outlay too much money to swap. Glad to see a video of the 1390 from a 1290 owners perspective. Both my bikes are so heavily modded that I will lose so much money. My own fault. 😂
Exactly. It’s just too much price wise to upgrade. I’d for sure have a 1390 but don’t think it’s a huge difference performance wise to warrant it from the 1290
i rode my mates previous Gen 1290.. it definately needs a few tweaks to suspension and a flash to sort the throttle/lean/fuelling just to give that confidence of on/off throttle 2nd/3rd gear on B-Roads
I’ve the gen3 evo I leave the suspension in auto very good smooth soon as you push on seamless stiffness up , only tacked it to once .then put it in track suspension you get tyre warring for the first 3 laps looks like the low tyre pressure warring won’t happen anymore on gen 4 . I have a Daytona for track which am sticking to mostly for track as it makes you ride way to fast on the road . The super duke is a much better road bike than track . Fast on track but harder working track . May I add thanks for a real world review on the gen 4 . 👍
Its a lot of money for a bunch of gizmo’s most of us won’t use. For me the dash looks too fussy and I really don’t like the new front indicator position. I know things have to change and evolve but for me our 1290’s are better looking and more than enough performance. Nice vid Rob, keep em coming 👍
Fair play. I don’t blame you. I really did enjoy riding it but I just can’t justify how much I’d have to put down if I wanted the Evo. Keep me informed on what you think and do.
For me, the rear light being built into the indicators is a deal breaker Also interesting what he said about the tpm’s batteries , I’m now wondering, because I like to ride my gen3 with them on the dash all the time, might be a stupid question, but am I drawing the batteries quicker that way , over just pressing a button and having them flash up when I want ?? Cheers for the video, I enjoyed that, lots of info on them 😁👍🏼
You’re most welcome and thank you. Good question regarding the tpms. It’ll be interesting to know if they are constantly reading or just when you bring up the display. Actually as I’m thinking about it I’d say constantly reading as otherwise how would it know when the pressures are low. Mmm 🤔
This was no secret. I asked if I could try the demo out whilst mine was being serviced. I know the dealership quite well so they said I could keep it over the weekend whilst they are closed.
lol. The secret to getting onto press days and factory rides is beyond me. I’ve mentioned it to the bigger players in the UA-cam world but seem reluctant to share that info.
NEED OPNIONS. I’m thinking of getting this bike for my first bike. I grew up riding dirt bikes and have a calling for a sport. It’s been years since I have been on a motorcycle but I feel the reckluse clutch , good seat height, I’m 5,10 , and not to mention the easy and intermediate options of power. I know that my right hand is the most important tool on the bike. I am 22 and beginning the starting safety course soon. I feel I can handle it but have gotten negative feedback. Please give me your feedback.
Hi. You’re exactly right concerning your right hand, the bikes only going to go as fast at you want it to, NOW it’s controlling that want. The more you ride it the more you’re going to want to open up that power. You say you have experience with dirt bikes and I know especially 2 stroke dirts bikes they take off like a rocket. So that bits good. My feeling is that you may think you can handle it but weight, power on these road bikes are totally different to riding mx bikes. My humble opinion is get some experience on a 600 first. The other thing is if you’re in the UK the insurance will be a massive factor. Not just on price but finding somewhere that will actually agree to insure a young person who’s just past their test. Which ever path you follow take it easy and ride safe.
@@Robbiemoto I live in the states, my uncle is trying to convince me to get a 690 and I won’t get bored. I’ve been doing a lot of research and I have to say I’m pretty convinced. I think the track pack is a great advantage to start off with
I love the states. I’ve been east and west coast. I’ve traveled quite a bit on the west side. Back to the bike and I’d totally agree with your uncle the 690 smc r is an absolute blast and with your mx experience would suit it. But at the end of the day it’s your choice my friend. There’s no point buying a bike to please others. Your money, your choice , your bike. All I’ll say is take it easy as the 1290 and 1390 will bite you even with the rider aids. My 1290 is way more bike than my 30years riding can handle. Which ever you go for take it easy.
@@Robbiemoto hey man, I really appreciate your humble honesty. I do really want the 690 I just wanted to make sure I’m not crazy for wanting it. Thank you for your response and respect, you earned my follow, keep up the good videos !! Stay safe my friend
I appreciate that thank you. I try and be as honest as possible. Pretty much the guy you see in the videos is the real me. Not some hyped up ott guy wanting views and subs, although I’m more than happy to get both 🤣
My 5th sdr 2 x gen 2 /2 x gen 3 went to bmw for year s1000rr collected my new gen 4 evo in April on 1200milrs absolutely smitten just lucky I traded my 22plate evo in for my bmw s1000rr last year managed to get just under 15 k 😂 BMW still haven’t sold my old bike still have it for just under 15k 🤔🤔
Over 20K rules me out and still very happy with my gen3 but the dealership I'm dealing after Chester closed down getting a recall done and a helmet replaced is beyond unbelievable poor service
Salut Robie,j ai acheter en décembre le 1290 sdr evo 2023 ,en,promo avec 2ans de garantie supplémentaire offert ainsi que le teck pack ,une très bonne affaire,j ai essayer le 1390 sdr evo ,très bien mais ça m aurai couter trop chère et le 1290 est déjà très bien ,la 1390 est plus facile plus souple plus véloce ,grasse aux pneus Michelin,la 1290 plus brutal à bas régime ,et j aime ce caractère 😂
@@Robbiemoto Tu préférerai la 1390 R evo ou la 1290 RR 😂moi la 1390 ,j ai essayer les deux avec PSB de 16 ! C est mieux ,et notre 1290 avec des Michelin GP sera beaucoup plus agile
Thats the ugliest front light since the speed/street triple. I feel there’s definitely too much to go wrong there and im guessing its not cheap to maintain
Thank you bud for your honest feedback. I have less than a year old Gen3 Evo and it seems I will be keeping it rather than an upgrade. You have convinced me as well. Gen 3 Evo with suspension set on Auto is the best commuter bike to my office in London. Great video from you as always!
Thank you.
Nice one Robbie was good to hear your opinion on the 1390 👍🏻👍🏻 my Gen 3 is due a service in a couple of months so will be trying to book a test ride on one at the same time 🏍️💨💨 ride safe buddy 🏍️💨💨💨👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers bud. Yes defo get a test ride and let me
Know what you think.
@@Robbiemoto yes will do mate 🏍️💨💨👍🏻
I’m in the same boat - with the same line up. 1290 and 690. I am booked to ride the 1390 next week, but like you, I think I’ll be keeping the 1290 due to having to outlay too much money to swap. Glad to see a video of the 1390 from a 1290 owners perspective. Both my bikes are so heavily modded that I will lose so much money. My own fault. 😂
Exactly. It’s just too much price wise to upgrade. I’d for sure have a 1390 but don’t think it’s a huge difference performance wise to warrant it from the 1290
i rode my mates previous Gen 1290.. it definately needs a few tweaks to suspension and a flash to sort the throttle/lean/fuelling just to give that confidence of on/off throttle 2nd/3rd gear on B-Roads
Spot on mate it does. My plan for this year is getting both bikes mapped. But the 690 is first.
@@Robbiemoto BHPUK all the way 👍🏻
@hypermotardking That’s who I’m gonna use. I spoke with them last year about doing both bikes and filming the process.
I’ve the gen3 evo I leave the suspension in auto very good smooth soon as you push on seamless stiffness up , only tacked it to once .then put it in track suspension you get tyre warring for the first 3 laps looks like the low tyre pressure warring won’t happen anymore on gen 4 . I have a Daytona for track which am sticking to mostly for track as it makes you ride way to fast on the road . The super duke is a much better road bike than track . Fast on track but harder working track .
May I add thanks for a real world review on the gen 4 . 👍
No worries mate. My pleasure. My channel is all about real world riding. Along with an average joe apannering.
That machine has the same performance capability as the space shuttle. Needs a fairing and better quality fluid reservoirs. SuperADV on its way...
12:12 the turn in feel is more than likely tyres unless you happen to be running the same ones on your 1290.
You may well be right. If I recall the 1390 has the Michelin power gt where mine has the Bridgestone S22
Its a lot of money for a bunch of gizmo’s most of us won’t use. For me the dash looks too fussy and I really don’t like the new front indicator position. I know things have to change and evolve but for me our 1290’s are better looking and more than enough performance. Nice vid Rob, keep em coming 👍
Thankyou I appreciate your comment. I also agree. I prefer the look of my 1290 and it performs well enough for my talent.
Luv the new Duke Rob but at just short of 20 grand and have you gotta pay extra to get the electonics unlocked as well.. mmm 🤔
You sure have mate. Typical KTM. I do know they had a special promo going where they included it but I think that has ended.
I'm going to test one in a week or 2, and even without riding it i'm thinking of upgrading
Fair play. I don’t blame you. I really did enjoy riding it but I just can’t justify how much I’d have to put down if I wanted the Evo. Keep me informed on what you think and do.
For me, the rear light being built into the indicators is a deal breaker
Also interesting what he said about the tpm’s batteries , I’m now wondering, because I like to ride my gen3 with them on the dash all the time, might be a stupid question, but am I drawing the batteries quicker that way , over just pressing a button and having them flash up when I want ??
Cheers for the video, I enjoyed that, lots of info on them 😁👍🏼
You’re most welcome and thank you.
Good question regarding the tpms. It’ll be interesting to know if they are constantly reading or just when you bring up the display.
Actually as I’m thinking about it I’d say constantly reading as otherwise how would it know when the pressures are low. Mmm 🤔
I like your content very much. But could you tell me your secret technic of getting test bike for a few days? How can I do it? 😅
This was no secret. I asked if I could try the demo out whilst mine was being serviced. I know the dealership quite well so they said I could keep it over the weekend whilst they are closed.
@@Robbiemoto will try the same trick then 😉👌🏻
lol. The secret to getting onto press days and factory rides is beyond me. I’ve mentioned it to the bigger players in the UA-cam world but seem reluctant to share that info.
@@Robbiemoto one day you'll reach their level with all its benefits 😉👌🏻
I like your optimism 😁.
NEED OPNIONS.
I’m thinking of getting this bike for my first bike. I grew up riding dirt bikes and have a calling for a sport. It’s been years since I have been on a motorcycle but I feel the reckluse clutch , good seat height, I’m 5,10 , and not to mention the easy and intermediate options of power. I know that my right hand is the most important tool on the bike. I am 22 and beginning the starting safety course soon. I feel I can handle it but have gotten negative feedback. Please give me your feedback.
Hi. You’re exactly right concerning your right hand, the bikes only going to go as fast at you want it to, NOW it’s controlling that want. The more you ride it the more you’re going to want to open up that power. You say you have experience with dirt bikes and I know especially 2 stroke dirts bikes they take off like a rocket. So that bits good.
My feeling is that you may think you can handle it but weight, power on these road bikes are totally different to riding mx bikes. My humble opinion is get some experience on a 600 first. The other thing is if you’re in the UK the insurance will be a massive factor. Not just on price but finding somewhere that will actually agree to insure a young person who’s just past their test.
Which ever path you follow take it easy and ride safe.
@@Robbiemoto I live in the states, my uncle is trying to convince me to get a 690 and I won’t get bored. I’ve been doing a lot of research and I have to say I’m pretty convinced. I think the track pack is a great advantage to start off with
I love the states. I’ve been east and west coast. I’ve traveled quite a bit on the west side.
Back to the bike and I’d totally agree with your uncle the 690 smc r is an absolute blast and with your mx experience would suit it.
But at the end of the day it’s your choice my friend. There’s no point buying a bike to please others. Your money, your choice , your bike. All I’ll say is take it easy as the 1290 and 1390 will bite you even with the rider aids.
My 1290 is way more bike than my 30years riding can handle.
Which ever you go for take it easy.
@@Robbiemoto hey man, I really appreciate your humble honesty. I do really want the 690 I just wanted to make sure I’m not crazy for wanting it. Thank you for your response and respect, you earned my follow, keep up the good videos !! Stay safe my friend
I appreciate that thank you.
I try and be as honest as possible. Pretty much the guy you see in the videos is the real me. Not some hyped up ott guy wanting views and subs, although I’m more than happy to get both 🤣
No chance to be 5-8K better.
I m keeping my 23 model .
Exactly my thoughts.
My 5th sdr 2 x gen 2 /2 x gen 3 went to bmw for year s1000rr collected my new gen 4 evo in April on 1200milrs absolutely smitten just lucky I traded my 22plate evo in for my bmw s1000rr last year managed to get just under 15 k 😂
BMW still haven’t sold my old bike still have it for just under 15k 🤔🤔
That’s awesome. You certainly timed it well.
I’d buy one if they’d give me a decent trade-in on my Gen 2 😎
It would be interesting to know what you’d get for it. The dealer told me for my 2020 1290 I’d be looking at around the £10k mark.
@@Robbiemoto Unfortunately I think dealerships have to make most of their money on servicing and trade ins. I’d probably be looking at around £6-7k.
Over 20K rules me out and still very happy with my gen3 but the dealership I'm dealing after Chester closed down getting a recall done and a helmet replaced is beyond unbelievable poor service
Who are you using now it is a right pain isn't it now they have closed only just got my bike in January aswell
@@user-fh4qe9yn2u there is a new dealership opening up soon can't say too much at the moment as I don't know if it is public yet
Salut Robie,j ai acheter en décembre le 1290 sdr evo 2023 ,en,promo avec 2ans de garantie supplémentaire offert ainsi que le teck pack ,une très bonne affaire,j ai essayer le 1390 sdr evo ,très bien mais ça m aurai couter trop chère et le 1290 est déjà très bien ,la 1390 est plus facile plus souple plus véloce ,grasse aux pneus Michelin,la 1290 plus brutal à bas régime ,et j aime ce caractère 😂
Merci. Je suis d'accord que le 1290 n'est pas assez différent pour passer au 1390. mais je dois dire que le 1390 est une machine géniale.
@@Robbiemoto
Tu préférerai la 1390 R evo ou la 1290 RR 😂moi la 1390 ,j ai essayer les deux avec PSB de 16 ! C est mieux ,et notre 1290 avec des Michelin GP sera beaucoup plus agile
I’d probably choose the 1390.
Trading in my 1290 evo tomorrow. Taking a massive hit moneywise but f@@k it, you only live once
Fair play to you. It’s for sure a very good bike. For me the trade in was just a little too rich.
Enjoy your new ride.
Thats the ugliest front light since the speed/street triple. I feel there’s definitely too much to go wrong there and im guessing its not cheap to maintain
It’s a Marmite thing. It’s sort of grown on me.
'Front light is ugly.' Predator says, "I tend to disagree" 😅