Fact is, it’s based of the movie the omen where the nanny to the antichrist arrives as a devil in disguise after the death of the first nanny. Sure, there were probably no nanny deaths in good omens, thankfully, but they still went with a similar touch.
I didn't interpret Crowley's shoving Aziraphale against the wall as anger so much as fear. Unlike in the church scene, where there's no way to pass that action off as demonic, in the modern day Aziraphale labeling his actions as 'nice' means he loses all demonic credit in the eyes of anyone watching, because an angel approves of what he's done. The violence is to put him back in 'demonic' territory, assuring anyone watching that he's not having a tender moment with the angel, nope, nothing to see here. It also gets Aziraphale to shut the hell up and watch what he says in public. You'll note Aziraphale is startled, but not at all afraid of Crowley, because despite the surface violence of the action Crowley isn't hurting him, the 'slam' is gentle enough that his head doesn't hit the wall. Contrast Uriel doing the same thing later on. Context and trust is everything. They've been around each other long enough for Aziraphale to instinctively know that Crowley isn't going for the throat, he's quite relaxed even if he's taken off guard. He's not even trying to get away, which means it really doesn't occur to him that Crowley might discorporate him just to prove a point.
I think Crowley had a fear for a lot of it that if he let more of his kindness show without even realizing it then he could put himself at risk of true death, since a kind demon has no use in Hell.
Thought angels were celibate or genderless (Kevin Smith's Dogma) until I watched Lucifer (also by Neil Gaiman) Turns out they are are sexually ambivalent - they'll Shag Anyone !!
Honestly, I prefer the show. The little stories before the opening are something that really catches my heart, also, the bathtub and hellfire scene it's brilliant, I felt like the show showed us more of the Good Omens universe. I totally loved it
Frogg doggs join the club. Favourite book for twenty five years, now the shows bleeding over into my mind every time I read it. Not a bad thing, mind, just annoying.
I feel like the book does some things better- like Terry Pratchett’s style of descriptive writing for long passages of comedy - but that don’t work in visual media. So, the show has DIFFERENT things that would probably NOT work on the page. In other words - excellent adaptation.
@@gaiusmaecenas1861 in doctor who first episode with him after regeration he was bitchin' "Men I wanted to be ginger, never gonna be ginger" l. This is whovian inside joke he Just wanted to finally be ginger
You missed out the other kids gang, Greasy Johnson and the Johnsonites. It's the whole reason for Adam thinking the end of the world, and having one side win is stupid. Without them the kids don't make much sense.
Vicky Mc, It's also suggested pretty broadly in the book that Greasy Johnson is the third baby (the Dowling's baby?) from when the whole baby-switch in the beginning got so scrambled.
Yes, the Greasy Johnson and the Johnsonites was the most surprising thing left out to me, as that was a major part of Adam's thought processes when it came to the end of the world, there had to be The Them and The Johnsonites as one without the other was no fun!
1. In the book, Crowley looks like a young man with dark hair who wears good suits. In the show he looks like a middle-aged man with red hair who wears whatever you wish to call that. 2. In the book, Crowley lives in a white flat, with a white leather sofa, plants throughout, and a computer that he upgrades every few months. In the show, he lives in a black flat filled with some kind of miasma, all the plants are in one room, and he owns a ...throne... with a desk to match. In both, he owns the original sketch of the Mona Lisa. 3. In the book, he has a bookcase, and all his books are in alphabetical order. In the show, he doesn't read books, though he has one on astronomy. 4. In the book, Adam has an older sibling. In the show, he is an only child. I think that most of the other major differences have been covered in the previous 400+ comments.
Tbh I like the tv Crowley more cuz he has a great character design. There’s nothing wrong with the book Crowley but gotta say he was a bit bland and tv show gave Crowley a lot of flavor.
I love the way Crowley's flat is described in the book, but it's probably good they did something else with it in the show, not just to be more modern, but because HEAVEN has an all white design in the show. Can you imagine the potential fan theories about Crowley pining for Heaven with his all white flat if they'd gone with that in the show? Probably too distracting. Though interesting, to be sure.
love both the book and the show! absolutely brilliant. and the fact that Michael Sheen and David Tennant have just the greatest chemistry, makes it even more of a joy to re-watch it over and over again
I read the book when it was first published. I was a bit worried when the screen adaptation was announced, until the casting was also announced, and that Neil Gaiman would be personally involved. I just love both versions. 🥰
A shame they didn't put the scene where the kids got hold of some guns but Aziraphale was quick to turn them into water guns. Except for one, when suddenly they heard a loud bang and Aziraphale was like 'Whoops, must've missed one.' I imagined it so vividly, it was hilarious 😂
Honestly, the thing that stood out to me the most, after change in the ending, is during Warlock's Birthday party where Crowley is the one to heal Aziraphale's dead dove, not Aziraphale. That was character building that was!
"Honestly, the thing that stood out to me the most, after change in the ending, is during Warlock's Birthday party where Crowley is the one to heal Aziraphale's dead dove, not Aziraphale. That was character building that was!" This. It was a seemingly minor change but to me it was just emblematic of the other problems with the adaptation.
if I remember correctly, Neil Gaiman said they had to change that for logistic reasons, cuz there was literally a Bentley between them, so it didn't work
They appear to only have him wear them in the heaven scenes, tho. His eyes are brown when on earth. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but maybe I missed something.
@@jaredjenkins1984 I noticed that sometimes he'd turn his head while wearing the glasses and you'd get a peek. Maybe that's why he kept them on, so they didn't have to keep re-shooting.
Here is another difference from the book to the TV series. In the book, when aziraphale and Crowley get shot with paintball guns. They both fall back, Crowley into a statue I believe and Aziraphale into a bush. Crowley after checking himself, CRAWLS over to aziraphale to make sure he is okay.
In the book, they were kinda stupid hangers-on with the much cooler Bikers of the Apocalypse. The show also left out the giant wall of fish (mentioned in the prophecy) that the Apocalyptic bikers sailed over, but that the other four...well, three of them died, and one only just survived. It wouldn't have added anything to the show.
The "long cold-open" showing Cr. and Az. having each other's backs through the centuries the best new idea for the adaptation. Maybe a little on the nose for the book purists, to flesh out a long entertaining miniseries, those extra bonding scenes were perfect.
They were fine. It's easier to describe how long they've known each other in text than it is to do visually. There's some changes or additions you kinda have to accept when you change medium.
I thought 3 should ride the sky as 2 referred to aziraphale and madame Tracy sharing a body, while riding with Shadwell. and one shall ride in flames - referred to Crowley's flaming car?
you're right three shall ride as twixt - Madame Tracy + Aziraphale & Shadwell in the scooter the serpents chariote shall flayme - well he did ride the Bentley through the M25 firewall
The greatest difference to me was the ending. Crowley figures out the actual plan (the immortals vs the mortals) as god, walking by, makes him forget because it’s too early. Of course they didn’t explore the Them as being the four horsemen either. The metaphysical stuff being left out really changes the feel of the book.
They still lined up pretty well - they made the Them line up with the Riders with the lines they said - but instead of making their own tools they just all used the sword. Sigh!
I'm not going to lie, I really found the ending to feel like an anti-climax because of the way they changed that detail. That and the fact that Adam doesn't go through pregnant lady mood swings in the book, rather that he's still seeing it as a game he's playing with his friends.
As for the Them, I loved that the further in the book, the more each kid resembles one of the Horsemen. You could pick it up way before they met at the air base. The book just doesn't treat the reader like an idiot. For example, the book just describes a war correspondent that's very successful because wherever she goes, a war breaks out. And you know who that is. It doesn't need to be so in-your-face. I still love the series though. The book has better story and humor, but the series has David and Michael's chemistry. I think the two complement each other in a nice way.
I didn't really feel like the part where Satan really showed up really did much. He was so huge and scary and defeated in 5 seconds. I didn't like how Satan was all father-figure like. It really felt like he was going to ground his kid. I liked it slightly better in the book where it was less 'Adam defies his father by saying "You're not my dad"' and more emphasis on Adam just changing all of existance. But I generally did like the series quite a lot.
@@whalesinlamentation5351 Love me some Benedict but unfortunately not as this character. Though thanks for mentioning that, I hadn't even noticed. Now that I went to listen to it again it's obvious.
i was surprised at how fast he was defeated. i would have never thought satan, literal satan, would be so sensitive about his son saying "you're not my dad" a few times.
paisley is crying I didn’t really take it as he’s sensitive about being called not his dad but he felt the actual reality changing/ he knew Adam could make it true and that he was about to be defeated. I dunno
@paisley4197 Adam was changing reality. Satan wasn't yelling because his son said he wasn't his son. He was yelling because he realized that Adam was changing reality and making so he wasn't Satan's son, sending Satan back to hell.
I miss the other horseman mostly for one exchange. "You say you're Hell's Angels? What chapter are you from then?" *REVELATIONS. CHAPTER SIX.* Kills me every time.
At that scene at the end at the Ritz, as the camera pans away, you can see the lid of the piano hovers over the two of them in the same way that azirapheles wing shields crowley from the first thunderstorm in the beginning. A nice little bit of poetic symmetry for you.
I thought no. 1 would be the sort-of love story between the two, but yeah, I guess it’s open to interpretation. I liked the book a lot, loved the show, dare I say it, even more. When they have their dinner at the Ritz, it just gives me a brief warm and fuzzy tingle, believing for a moment that maybe all can be well and the world can be saved. And the work everyone put into this was just phenomenal.
I recall Neil talking on Tumblr about Good Omens being a love story (iirc he referred to both book and tv), although not necessarily a romantic/sexual one.
scouttyra yes me too, so I was a bit surprised it was left out in here. It certainly wasn’t really there in the book, whereas it was certainly there in the show. But I suppose not all see it that way. 🤷🏻♀️
@@yooringonghan Crowley mentions the sound of music, playing for all eternity in the book. "Listen," Said Crowley urgently. "The point is that when the bird has worn the mountain down to nothing, right, then-" Aziraphale opened his mouth. Crowley just knew he was going to make some point about the relative hardness of bird beaks and granite mountains, and plunged on quicky. "-then you still won't have finished watching the sound of music." Aziraphale froze. "And you'll enjoy it," Crowley said relentlessly. "You really will." "My dear boy-" "You won't have a choice ." "Listen-" "Heaven has no taste." "Now-" "And not one single sushi restaurant." - pages 31 - 32. (Victor Gollancz edition 1990 print)
I watched supernatural and in that there is a character called crowley and it's pronounced how he says it so it took me a while to get used to it being pronounced the way it is in the show
As for the number 8, I've always assumed Warlock's teachers are shapeshifted Crowley and Aziraphale, and only now I've realized it was never explicitly stated in the book...
I thought it would be cool if it WAS them, but thought it couldn't be (in the book) because Aziraphale practically says the gardener is somebody else he hired while comparing notes with a clearly-not-Nanny Crowley.
@@lovetolovefairytales in the book? It's really obvious in the book that azi and Crowley are the gardener/nanny respectively. From what I remember, it says that the gardener was never spotted doing work and just seemed to lounge around with a bunch of doves, and tho I don't remember anything specific about the nanny, it seems unlikely that azi would personally look after warlock and Crowley wouldn't
@@wardabatool717 not really. I mean if they WERE the gardener and Nanny in the book, and by that logic, the tutors as well, there are then two things in the book that don't make sense. If Crowley and Aziraphale are both living in Warlock's house, why do they meet at public museums and loud CONCERTS and crowded buses to talk? A big house like that, both of them there, and you're telling me there's not one spare corner they could compare notes? They need to go OUT to talk? Also, why would Aziraphale call HIMSELF "my little team," and not take full credit for influencing Warlock? And if Book!Crowley was the Nanny where did he get a dog named Rover from? Crowley can barely keep his temper with houseplants, we know he dislikes horses, and he has a DOG randomly? I don't buy it. Also I'm fairly certain Gaiman has confirmed that originally he and prachett weren't thinking of the Nanny as Crowley in disguise when they wrote the book, but it came into the adaptations because it's funnier if it's literally him.
It isn't obvious in the book. Moreover, there's even a phrase that the nanny and the gardener left being much surprised, and were replaced by the two teachers. So, thinking logically, it sounds silly that A and C engaged some people/creatures when they themselves could have been under surveillance of their headoffices, but the book has it like this. Probably the authors tried to change it, but a phrase from a previous version remained unnoticed.
I always found in the book that it felt that they loved each other but the book didnt label watever their relationship was. In the end they just love each other.
4:25 I listened to The BBC Radio 4 dramatisation of the book (*recorded in 2015*) & they definitely did have the nanny\gardner in there, they toss a coin for it ("you know I don't look good in a skirt").
Annika Asoka here! www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04knt4h/episodes/player They're not gonna stay available forever, only like 20 days so... (The BBC re-uploaded them because they were replayed on the radio last month)
I like how the book, the radio version, and the TV version are all different but are all the same, As if neilandterry adapted their writing for each medium. BTW, there are two traffic cops in the radio show called Terry and Neil, played by Pterry and Neil.
I think the changes they made for the adaptation were positive, especially the ending. I adore the novel, but this ending felt more complete and gave our main two characters something clever to do.
Also the television show, (sadly I think,) didn't have the "chalk pit." In the late 90's I met Terry Pratchett, and though I knew a few of his (Discworld) books I hadn't learned to recognize the authors name, so didn't realize who he was. (He was very nice!) As I do when meeting someone who's obviously British, I commented that in my youth I'd spent a couple of years living in England (instead of America), in a little place called Peppard Common, north of Reading. Mr. Pratchett was the only person I've ever met who knew it. Years, and many readings of "Good Omens" later I came to imagine Lower Tadfield looked a lot like where I'd lived, especially the chalk pit. (And yes, Peppard Common is in Oxfordshire.)
I really love the series--dare I say, more than the book in many cases. However, one thing that disappointed me about the series is that they didn't have Death's voice as simply subtitles in all caps, perhaps paired with some unearthly background static.
You forgot the biggest difference...in the book Crowley Hated Queen! Part of his damnation was that his beloved classical cassettes would after two weeks, become "The Best of Queen"!
@@CelynBrum in the book nearly the end he plays the water music by haendel in a jeep he stole, and the water music stays until the end. So its the Bentley that likes to change the tapes
You know that change wasn't done for PC reasons right? People act like it was such an "enlightened" and "modern" choice, and how they want the book "fixed" similarly to have all the "offensive jokes" taken out. When REALLY, Neil changed it to a little Irish girl voice because he thought Aziraphale's voice suddenly breaking through after a high pitched female one would be funnier on screen. It's in the script book. Gaiman wasn't catering to snowflakes, he was just trying to make the scene even funnier.
One of the things I've been wondering about and this is admittedly not super addressed. But in the books when Aziraphale and Crowley spread their wings it rather implies that there aren't any differences between them. So I had kind of expected them both to be the same color in the show. XD
I noticed that too. Interestingly Gaiman also changed who had messier wings for the show. In the book, Crowley's were "better groomed" but in the script it says his wings had seen "better days" implying Aziraphale had neater wings than he did. Weird.
lovetolovefairytales It doesn't necessarily say Crowley's wing in the book, it just says demons wings are better groomed, and given their respective characterization as not being exactky like other angels/demons I find it quite fitting that Aziraphale's would be groomed, and Crowley's not as much.
I missed Treading in Dogshit (formerly All Foreigners Especially the French, formerly Things Not Working Properly Even After You've Given Them a Good Thumbing, never actually No Alcohol Lager, briefly Embarrassing Personal Problems, formerly known as Skuzz).
I've just found out from a live with Neil and David that they were planning to make the telepreacher scene and Michael McKeen was supposed to be the preacher. But Neil changed his mind and decided to cast him as Shadwell, and aside from that the scene had to be cut off because of funds/time limitations.
You forgot in the book she, Anathema Device, only gets into the car before without fear when she sees Crowley say to as Azraphel, "Get in Ange."l that is when she is she says to herself, "She knew she was in safe hands with two consenting adults."
I liked this! Some other significant changes, I think, are Adam's involvement in stopping the end of the world. In the book, he realizes what everyone else fails to understand, which is that people should just be allowed to get on with things without being meddled with. The other big change is how we are introduced to War in the book versus the show.
Yall forgot to include the entirety of Crowley mourning his husband's discorporation 'cause he thought Aziraphale died (maybe because he thought it was hellfire). Which includes the whole, "SOMEBODY KILLED MY BESTFRIEND!" line, and the whole "giving up and getting drunk at a local diner" scene. Loved that, thank God they scooted that into the mini-series...
I feel that the switch at the end was kind of their way to make the oncoming season 2 have less heaven/hell influences because of a reason to “leave them alone” iconic scene btw-
While the nanny and the gardener were never EXPLICITLY called out as being A & C in disguise in the books, I always read it that way, even before the movie came out. The nanny and gardener were so comically good and evil, and so perfectly fashioned for their role that it was kind of hard to imagine that they were actual people. Most people in the book are a bit naff.
Another big one is Aziraphale wasn't as whiny in the book and he and Crowley were much more open about their friendship, they weren't constantly trying to hide it.
Well they had to add drama somehow. Also, they were a LITTLE angsty about their friendship in the book, like when Aziraphale wants to call Crowley when he works out who the Antichrist is but worries for several hours (if I remember correctly) that it would be "wrong" to do so. I think the only version their friendship was completely chill and angst free in was the radio play. They literally didn't worry about getting caught at all (except for one line about "would your side give me assylum/Ha nope, yours?/nope, sorry dear") and it's kinda cute how calm they are about it.
cai I've done waaaaay too much reasearch on this and it really depends on which specific religion one practices. Some say archangels are below all the other specific ones with the normal angels (the two terms being practically interchangeable), whereas others have them right at the top, only second to god.
What do you mean it's not explicit that Crowly and Az have a personal hand at raising Warlock? We literally learn about how Crowly loves Marry Poppins and wanted to blow away the other applicant nannies with a tornado. Then the tutors. What?
The prophecy about the four horseman. Isn’t the “other four” being Shadwell, Madam Tracey, Aziraphale and Crowley? Crowleys car was on fire and the other three were on a flying motorbike
In the book, there were four hells angels that rode with the original horsemen and became the "other" four horsemen. When they were cut from the tv show, it did not make sense for them to be included in the relevant prophecy. I cannot remember if "three as two..." bit was in the book but it is an accurate representation of shadwell et al.
The other horsemen are gracious bodily harm, cruelty to animals, things not working properly even after you've given them a good thumping but secretly no alcohol lager and really cool people So no
The office high rise and basement showcase that both Heaven and Hell are bureaucracies. Reminds me of a quote: “Bureaucracy must expand to serve the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.”
Some of the changes were introduced by Neil Gaiman from material he and PTerry wrote for a proposed sequel (working title: "667: The Neighbour of the Beast") that was sadly never finished.
I read them as being the nanny and the gardener in the book; that seemed clear. The gardener never gardened but his garden was magically the best, for pity’s sake!
Interesting fact: when you see the escalator scene, you can see both aziraphale and Crowley walking on water. They both have faith. Not only that, focus on how Crowley sinks in the water. Since he’s a demon he’s lost faith. But for aziraphale he’s always have faith. It’s just like how in the Bible Jesus is walking on water. Just thought that was interesting uwu Edit: 5:22 here’s what I’m talking about
The two things I wish they could have put in the series was the true introduction to death from the novel, and all the references to Elvis still being alive.
They probably weren't though. Aziraphale makes it fairly clear he's not the gardener by saying his "team" is responsible for Warlock's being "too normal" and he does it in a corrective manner after saying "my influence". If it was him, he wouldn't have needed to correct himself. And while Crowley had a big part in that Nanny getting hired, as he even considered hurricaning her competition for the job away like the Nannies in Mary Poppins, he doesn't seem to literally BE her in the book. She has a different character/personality from him as well as a big dog (Crowley isn't shown as being a "pet person") that followed her everywhere. I figured she was just some random Satanist Crowley hired in the book.
Aziraphale literally credits Warlock's upbringing as the good influence of his "little team". Very much implied that nanny, gardener and the tutors were people under their employ, and that Crowley and Aziraphale watched from the sidelines.
If Crowley was the Nanny in the book though, where did he get that random big dog the Nanny owns that we never see again after she leaves? And couldn't he and Aziraphale meet up in Warlock's house to talk if they were both working there, instead of on buses and in cafeterias? It doesn't make sense in book!universe.
Aziraphale: “We should oversee him as a nanny and a gardener”
Crowley, who has been taking care of plants for who knows how long: “I’ll be the nanny.”
Fact is, it’s based of the movie the omen where the nanny to the antichrist arrives as a devil in disguise after the death of the first nanny. Sure, there were probably no nanny deaths in good omens, thankfully, but they still went with a similar touch.
Ooooooh neat!
To be fair, how far do you think he'd get shouting at the plants in someone else's garden? xD
They actually chose it by aziraphale saying ‘shot down the gardener job!’ And then Crowley scowling and saying ‘damn! Have you seen me in a skirt?’
Crowley just knew he'd be hot as fuck as a goth Mary Poppins and he was correct
The way Michael delivered "to the world" still gives me chills
julisobsessed I knooow I replayed that scene a bunch of times and I was just shaken the delivery is SO GOOD
every time i see it i get chills!!! every! time!!
I cringe every time and I can't help it
my boyfriends reaction was yelling "just bone already jesus fuckkkkk". trés refined, darling dearest lol
It's so full of love!!
I didn't interpret Crowley's shoving Aziraphale against the wall as anger so much as fear. Unlike in the church scene, where there's no way to pass that action off as demonic, in the modern day Aziraphale labeling his actions as 'nice' means he loses all demonic credit in the eyes of anyone watching, because an angel approves of what he's done. The violence is to put him back in 'demonic' territory, assuring anyone watching that he's not having a tender moment with the angel, nope, nothing to see here. It also gets Aziraphale to shut the hell up and watch what he says in public.
You'll note Aziraphale is startled, but not at all afraid of Crowley, because despite the surface violence of the action Crowley isn't hurting him, the 'slam' is gentle enough that his head doesn't hit the wall. Contrast Uriel doing the same thing later on. Context and trust is everything. They've been around each other long enough for Aziraphale to instinctively know that Crowley isn't going for the throat, he's quite relaxed even if he's taken off guard. He's not even trying to get away, which means it really doesn't occur to him that Crowley might discorporate him just to prove a point.
I think Crowley had a fear for a lot of it that if he let more of his kindness show without even realizing it then he could put himself at risk of true death, since a kind demon has no use in Hell.
@This is what I look like when I eat Tacos EDJIHNFIUNDI EXACTLY
Thought angels were celibate or genderless (Kevin Smith's Dogma) until I watched Lucifer (also by Neil Gaiman) Turns out they are are sexually ambivalent - they'll Shag Anyone !!
Or .. doesn't need a label. just is or does what he wants. In the book never read Crawley as gay.
@This is what I look like when I eat Tacos I'll take your word for that. I thought the show runner was Neil Gaiman not RTD (who's work I mostly enjoy)
"from rivals, to acquaintances, to friends
*to happily married couples*
Ineffable husbands
Heavenly GAGA
DAMN RIGHT
@Playlist Person that's the best thing I have ever read.
@Playlist Person Yup that sounds like my boi Neil alright
@@SSMp315 HOW ARE U A L W A Y S SO EARLY HGJFDHHOCC
I think David Tennant just wanted to be ginger
He always has
Ehhhhhhhh i get that reffrance
omg I just realized 🤣
Oh my goodness this comment is genius
Wait, so now he's rude AND ginger?
Neil said on tumblr something along the lines of "we just said Crowley had dark hair. We didnt say what color"
At 6:05 a angel is dead ass riding a hoverboard in the background and I'm crying help
LaVoe Rodgers I noticed that the first time I watched the episode I was like omg wot u doing over there random angel
@@cherriesaregood8146 He is doing his best uwu jk
Omg I never noticed and now I'm dead
I've rewatched Good Omens lots of times and I've never noticed that 'til now, lmao
Well it's shown angels like some things on earth like the clothes and now shown the hoverboard so it makes sense
God's plan is basically monopoly but without rules and let's face it, we all wanted to see David as a ginger
Nah, She just want all of Her children together, and Her ways to do it is, apparently, matchmaking xD
God is just playing solitaire tbh
more like She plays DnD with the universe but She doesnt roll a dice but decide the stuff for Herself
She didn’t actually want Armageddon to happen that soon, she just wanted Aziraphale and Crowley to get closer together she ships it like HECC
Oh so gods just like me. I never play monopoly according to the rules 😂.
Honestly, I prefer the show. The little stories before the opening are something that really catches my heart, also, the bathtub and hellfire scene it's brilliant, I felt like the show showed us more of the Good Omens universe. I totally loved it
Choose your faces wisley! I caught that in the bathtub scene...... really quickly!
Good Omens book is my favorite book
Good Omens show is my favorite show
Yes I have a problem
Frogg doggs join the club. Favourite book for twenty five years, now the shows bleeding over into my mind every time I read it. Not a bad thing, mind, just annoying.
I feel like the book does some things better- like Terry Pratchett’s style of descriptive writing for long passages of comedy - but that don’t work in visual media. So, the show has DIFFERENT things that would probably NOT work on the page. In other words - excellent adaptation.
I cant believe its not in the book
Thank God Crowley was ginger Tennant waited since 2006 for being ginger
Yes, yes and yes.
Can anyone tell me why? I’ve read a lot of comments about that, and I’ve always wondered. Did he say that at one point?
@@gaiusmaecenas1861 in doctor who first episode with him after regeration he was bitchin' "Men I wanted to be ginger, never gonna be ginger" l. This is whovian inside joke he Just wanted to finally be ginger
Miss Okita Ah, I never watch the first episode after a regeneration (don’t ask why ;) ). Thanks for explaining.
He was a ginger in the bright one things from 2003
You missed out the other kids gang, Greasy Johnson and the Johnsonites. It's the whole reason for Adam thinking the end of the world, and having one side win is stupid. Without them the kids don't make much sense.
Anathema and Newt also didn't make sense to me. Especially Anathema.
Also the other 4 riders
Vicky Mc, It's also suggested pretty broadly in the book that Greasy Johnson is the third baby (the Dowling's baby?) from when the whole baby-switch in the beginning got so scrambled.
Yes, the Greasy Johnson and the Johnsonites was the most surprising thing left out to me, as that was a major part of Adam's thought processes when it came to the end of the world, there had to be The Them and The Johnsonites as one without the other was no fun!
aahhhh so thats where the "whos gang is stronger" comes from
1. In the book, Crowley looks like a young man with dark hair who wears good suits. In the show he looks like a middle-aged man with red hair who wears whatever you wish to call that.
2. In the book, Crowley lives in a white flat, with a white leather sofa, plants throughout, and a computer that he upgrades every few months. In the show, he lives in a black flat filled with some kind of miasma, all the plants are in one room, and he owns a ...throne... with a desk to match. In both, he owns the original sketch of the Mona Lisa.
3. In the book, he has a bookcase, and all his books are in alphabetical order. In the show, he doesn't read books, though he has one on astronomy.
4. In the book, Adam has an older sibling. In the show, he is an only child.
I think that most of the other major differences have been covered in the previous 400+ comments.
Tbh I like the tv Crowley more cuz he has a great character design. There’s nothing wrong with the book Crowley but gotta say he was a bit bland and tv show gave Crowley a lot of flavor.
David Tennant IS a middle-aged man. Time passes. The red hair was just one of the Doctor Who related jokes they threw in.
I love the way Crowley's flat is described in the book, but it's probably good they did something else with it in the show, not just to be more modern, but because HEAVEN has an all white design in the show. Can you imagine the potential fan theories about Crowley pining for Heaven with his all white flat if they'd gone with that in the show? Probably too distracting. Though interesting, to be sure.
The throne that Crowley has in this show is the same one that the character Crowley has in the Supernatural show
His flat in the TV series is far less inviting which I think suits the character better.
love both the book and the show! absolutely brilliant. and the fact that Michael Sheen and David Tennant have just the greatest chemistry, makes it even more of a joy to re-watch it over and over again
sammylein17 Michael Sheen already has many awards, maybe it’s time for David Tennant to earn one for this. He was perfect.
I read the book when it was first published. I was a bit worried when the screen adaptation was announced, until the casting was also announced, and that Neil Gaiman would be personally involved. I just love both versions. 🥰
A shame they didn't put the scene where the kids got hold of some guns but Aziraphale was quick to turn them into water guns. Except for one, when suddenly they heard a loud bang and Aziraphale was like 'Whoops, must've missed one.'
I imagined it so vividly, it was hilarious 😂
Honestly, the thing that stood out to me the most, after change in the ending, is during Warlock's Birthday party where Crowley is the one to heal Aziraphale's dead dove, not Aziraphale. That was character building that was!
"Honestly, the thing that stood out to me the most, after change in the ending, is during Warlock's Birthday party where Crowley is the one to heal Aziraphale's dead dove, not Aziraphale. That was character building that was!"
This. It was a seemingly minor change but to me it was just emblematic of the other problems with the adaptation.
if I remember correctly, Neil Gaiman said they had to change that for logistic reasons, cuz there was literally a Bentley between them, so it didn't work
SAME when I read that line in the book I was shocked!!! He's a cinnamon rol after all... ❤
@@Hekateras Redditor
So THAT'S why their clothing colors were switched
Crowley def invented kiss a ginger day in an attempt to get Zira to kiss him, no I don’t take constructive criticism
hollie..... your mind
galaxy brain
i stand this
No need to criticise. It's perfect.
I almost wish that actually happened so zira would kiss crowley. But tricking zira under mistletoe could work to.
😈💙😇
Azir saying “to the world” has the MOST EMOTION i’ve ever heard in any actor ever
Somehow it was 'too hard' for GoT to have actors wear contacts... *looks at Jon Hamm's violet eyes*
They appear to only have him wear them in the heaven scenes, tho. His eyes are brown when on earth. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but maybe I missed something.
@@bonniea8189 maybe for him to blend in better with hoomuns
@@dasimations5780 Seems legit
Apparently david wore the yellow contacts even when wearing glasses that would hide his eyes. That’s dedication
@@jaredjenkins1984 I noticed that sometimes he'd turn his head while wearing the glasses and you'd get a peek. Maybe that's why he kept them on, so they didn't have to keep re-shooting.
“you really are a nice-”
Book Crowley: *shrugs*
TV Crowley: SHUT IT!
Here is another difference from the book to the TV series. In the book, when aziraphale and Crowley get shot with paintball guns. They both fall back, Crowley into a statue I believe and Aziraphale into a bush. Crowley after checking himself, CRAWLS over to aziraphale to make sure he is okay.
In with book is this scene?
Because there are so many difference books.
@@user-lc9xw9dk6n I think I had a stroke trying to read this, could you please elaborate?
Tv producers: “we...we need a wall slam”
“IT’S NECESSARY TO THE PLOT, JIM!”
Rip to the extra horsemen, “Really cool people” will be missed
In the book, they were kinda stupid hangers-on with the much cooler Bikers of the Apocalypse. The show also left out the giant wall of fish (mentioned in the prophecy) that the Apocalyptic bikers sailed over, but that the other four...well, three of them died, and one only just survived. It wouldn't have added anything to the show.
@@judyloukides Should have cut it from the prophecy then too.
Don’t forget “Things Not Working Out After You Give Them A Good Thumping”
What about stepping in......and secretly no alcohol larger !
If I was one of them I would be the horsemen of inflation
The "long cold-open" showing Cr. and Az. having each other's backs through the centuries the best new idea for the adaptation. Maybe a little on the nose for the book purists, to flesh out a long entertaining miniseries, those extra bonding scenes were perfect.
They were fine. It's easier to describe how long they've known each other in text than it is to do visually. There's some changes or additions you kinda have to accept when you change medium.
6:06 I didn't realize it the 2 times I watched Good Omens BUT THAT ANGEL IS RIDING A HOVERBOARD
I didn't realize it the 4 times I watched it...
I thought 3 should ride the sky as 2 referred to aziraphale and madame Tracy sharing a body, while riding with Shadwell. and one shall ride in flames - referred to Crowley's flaming car?
The prophecy in the book is different, it starts, "and four shall ryde, and also four shall ryde ..."
@@operatorhoot470 aaah, I see, thank you :D its pretty cool that they thought of that detail for the show then :)
Omg you’re right
They changed the prophesy about Newt's car too, not referring to "Orient's Chariot" and removing all the 'racial' jokes associated with the Wasabi.
you're right
three shall ride as twixt - Madame Tracy + Aziraphale & Shadwell in the scooter
the serpents chariote shall flayme - well he did ride the Bentley through the M25 firewall
I noticed that hair color was used to make characters stand out in the show, so only a few had non-black hair. Mostly like anime.
The greatest difference to me was the ending. Crowley figures out the actual plan (the immortals vs the mortals) as god, walking by, makes him forget because it’s too early.
Of course they didn’t explore the Them as being the four horsemen either.
The metaphysical stuff being left out really changes the feel of the book.
They still lined up pretty well - they made the Them line up with the Riders with the lines they said - but instead of making their own tools they just all used the sword. Sigh!
I'm not going to lie, I really found the ending to feel like an anti-climax because of the way they changed that detail. That and the fact that Adam doesn't go through pregnant lady mood swings in the book, rather that he's still seeing it as a game he's playing with his friends.
@@nightfire9193 same
As for the Them, I loved that the further in the book, the more each kid resembles one of the Horsemen. You could pick it up way before they met at the air base.
The book just doesn't treat the reader like an idiot. For example, the book just describes a war correspondent that's very successful because wherever she goes, a war breaks out. And you know who that is. It doesn't need to be so in-your-face.
I still love the series though. The book has better story and humor, but the series has David and Michael's chemistry. I think the two complement each other in a nice way.
that thing about god making crowley forget? please tell me whether it was in the book or in the tv show. i haven't finished reading the book yet.
I didn't really feel like the part where Satan really showed up really did much. He was so huge and scary and defeated in 5 seconds. I didn't like how Satan was all father-figure like. It really felt like he was going to ground his kid.
I liked it slightly better in the book where it was less 'Adam defies his father by saying "You're not my dad"' and more emphasis on Adam just changing all of existance.
But I generally did like the series quite a lot.
Laura Laura Benedict Cumberbatch did Satan’s voice if it makes u feel better lol
@@whalesinlamentation5351
Love me some Benedict but unfortunately not as this character.
Though thanks for mentioning that, I hadn't even noticed. Now that I went to listen to it again it's obvious.
i was surprised at how fast he was defeated. i would have never thought satan, literal satan, would be so sensitive about his son saying "you're not my dad" a few times.
paisley is crying I didn’t really take it as he’s sensitive about being called not his dad but he felt the actual reality changing/ he knew Adam could make it true and that he was about to be defeated. I dunno
@paisley4197 Adam was changing reality. Satan wasn't yelling because his son said he wasn't his son. He was yelling because he realized that Adam was changing reality and making so he wasn't Satan's son, sending Satan back to hell.
I just want Aziraphale and Crowley to be my dads
or mums.
Enlist as the next Antichrist and I don’t see how they wouldn’t
Parental figures, although, in the book their pronouns were "He/him" so I would assume dad's.
Neil Gaiman, one of the writers of the book, literally confirmed that their in love and move into a cottage together after the book ends
Y E S
Yes, but I hate it
And now I accept it
@@Maybe_youre_quicksand Did you finish the series or something lmao
@@kilarthmac I've finished the series two times.
"I made Michael miracle me a towel" :D
thats immaculate
*Shows the Hellfire scene*
“SPOILER WARNING”
I know right? Epic fail.
They said at the very beginning that there were spoilers ahead.
I miss the other horseman mostly for one exchange.
"You say you're Hell's Angels? What chapter are you from then?"
*REVELATIONS. CHAPTER SIX.*
Kills me every time.
I loved the solider reading American Gods.
ME TOO!!!
Hope he watch the Amazon prime show
@@Dim4323 Thought it was Starz?
@@JBatJJ Nope it's on Amazon
I missed that part the first time, that's awesome!
At that scene at the end at the Ritz, as the camera pans away, you can see the lid of the piano hovers over the two of them in the same way that azirapheles wing shields crowley from the first thunderstorm in the beginning. A nice little bit of poetic symmetry for you.
I thought no. 1 would be the sort-of love story between the two, but yeah, I guess it’s open to interpretation. I liked the book a lot, loved the show, dare I say it, even more. When they have their dinner at the Ritz, it just gives me a brief warm and fuzzy tingle, believing for a moment that maybe all can be well and the world can be saved. And the work everyone put into this was just phenomenal.
I recall Neil talking on Tumblr about Good Omens being a love story (iirc he referred to both book and tv), although not necessarily a romantic/sexual one.
scouttyra yes me too, so I was a bit surprised it was left out in here. It certainly wasn’t really there in the book, whereas it was certainly there in the show. But I suppose not all see it that way. 🤷🏻♀️
Book: Newt joined the Witchfinder Army by misunderstanding - intending to join the Territorials.
Show: Inexplicably joined on purpose.
Their scenes throughout the centuries, might've been my favorite scenes of the show. Would love to see many more :D
But Neil gaiman Said Red is still dark colour and that its never described black or Something Like that
Yeah exactly dark colour basically includes black, brown or red I assume
and it's such a pretty shade of red as well! spicy red. I would have been fine with it even if the book said had black, just because it's so pretty
Good Omen's Heaven isn't just pristine. It's empty, sterile, and barren.
*shudders*
and no good musicians
@@yooringonghan Sound of Music on repeat
@@CylindricalWhistle I don't remember that line in the book tho...
@@yooringonghan Crowley mentions the sound of music, playing for all eternity in the book.
"Listen," Said Crowley urgently. "The point is that when the bird has worn the mountain down to nothing, right, then-"
Aziraphale opened his mouth. Crowley just knew he was going to make some point about the relative hardness of bird beaks and granite mountains, and plunged on quicky.
"-then you still won't have finished watching the sound of music."
Aziraphale froze.
"And you'll enjoy it," Crowley said relentlessly. "You really will."
"My dear boy-"
"You won't have a choice ."
"Listen-"
"Heaven has no taste."
"Now-"
"And not one single sushi restaurant."
- pages 31 - 32. (Victor Gollancz edition 1990 print)
You're not my daaad! NOT MY DAD! BOOGIE WOOGIE WOOGIE!
Shetasen you're not my dad! ugly ass fukin noodle head-
ok but you do know you're pronouncing crowley wrong, right. had to get it off my chest
Exactly!!
I pronounced it in my head like he does when I read it. Felt so dumb when I watched the series
I watched supernatural and in that there is a character called crowley and it's pronounced how he says it so it took me a while to get used to it being pronounced the way it is in the show
Becca Yeah it’s more like the supernatural (American?) pronunciation
I watch supernatural and there is also a character named Crowley. It was good that they had different pronunciations so i could tell tyem apart
As for the number 8, I've always assumed Warlock's teachers are shapeshifted Crowley and Aziraphale, and only now I've realized it was never explicitly stated in the book...
It was explained in the book
I thought it would be cool if it WAS them, but thought it couldn't be (in the book) because Aziraphale practically says the gardener is somebody else he hired while comparing notes with a clearly-not-Nanny Crowley.
@@lovetolovefairytales in the book? It's really obvious in the book that azi and Crowley are the gardener/nanny respectively. From what I remember, it says that the gardener was never spotted doing work and just seemed to lounge around with a bunch of doves, and tho I don't remember anything specific about the nanny, it seems unlikely that azi would personally look after warlock and Crowley wouldn't
@@wardabatool717 not really. I mean if they WERE the gardener and Nanny in the book, and by that logic, the tutors as well, there are then two things in the book that don't make sense. If Crowley and Aziraphale are both living in Warlock's house, why do they meet at public museums and loud CONCERTS and crowded buses to talk? A big house like that, both of them there, and you're telling me there's not one spare corner they could compare notes? They need to go OUT to talk? Also, why would Aziraphale call HIMSELF "my little team," and not take full credit for influencing Warlock? And if Book!Crowley was the Nanny where did he get a dog named Rover from? Crowley can barely keep his temper with houseplants, we know he dislikes horses, and he has a DOG randomly? I don't buy it. Also I'm fairly certain Gaiman has confirmed that originally he and prachett weren't thinking of the Nanny as Crowley in disguise when they wrote the book, but it came into the adaptations because it's funnier if it's literally him.
It isn't obvious in the book. Moreover, there's even a phrase that the nanny and the gardener left being much surprised, and were replaced by the two teachers. So, thinking logically, it sounds silly that A and C engaged some people/creatures when they themselves could have been under surveillance of their headoffices, but the book has it like this. Probably the authors tried to change it, but a phrase from a previous version remained unnoticed.
David's Hair in the early 2000s is my fav hair
that bun tho
@@ayaehab THAT BUN WAS HIS BEST HAIRSTYLE IMO
AND HE ONLY WEARS IT ONCE
You also missed how Crowley and Aziraphale were written as if they are in love with each other in the mini-series!
Aren't they?
"as if they are in love" neil basically confirmed that he wrote them in the tv series as a love story
...you say that as if they weren't written that way in the book...
They *are* in love with each other
I always found in the book that it felt that they loved each other but the book didnt label watever their relationship was. In the end they just love each other.
4:25 I listened to The BBC Radio 4 dramatisation of the book (*recorded in 2015*) & they definitely did have the nanny\gardner in there, they toss a coin for it ("you know I don't look good in a skirt").
Do you know where I can find that? I'm really interested in listening but I don't know where.
Annika Asoka here! www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04knt4h/episodes/player
They're not gonna stay available forever, only like 20 days so... (The BBC re-uploaded them because they were replayed on the radio last month)
I like how the book, the radio version, and the TV version are all different but are all the same, As if neilandterry adapted their writing for each medium.
BTW, there are two traffic cops in the radio show called Terry and Neil, played by Pterry and Neil.
I think the changes they made for the adaptation were positive, especially the ending. I adore the novel, but this ending felt more complete and gave our main two characters something clever to do.
Also the television show, (sadly I think,) didn't have the "chalk pit." In the late 90's I met Terry Pratchett, and though I knew a few of his (Discworld) books I hadn't learned to recognize the authors name, so didn't realize who he was. (He was very nice!) As I do when meeting someone who's obviously British, I commented that in my youth I'd spent a couple of years living in England (instead of America), in a little place called Peppard Common, north of Reading. Mr. Pratchett was the only person I've ever met who knew it. Years, and many readings of "Good Omens" later I came to imagine Lower Tadfield looked a lot like where I'd lived, especially the chalk pit. (And yes, Peppard Common is in Oxfordshire.)
Wow... That's a really lovely story. I wish I had been able to meet Sir Terry. I'm quite jealous.
I really love the series--dare I say, more than the book in many cases. However, one thing that disappointed me about the series is that they didn't have Death's voice as simply subtitles in all caps, perhaps paired with some unearthly background static.
I was wondering when you’d do this. I absolutely adore the book *and* the Amazon Prime series! They’re both incredible!!
Aren't they? The BBC radio play is lovely too.
Man, David's hair is BANGIN! I want a dye job like that!
I thought skipping the explanation as to why Queen was always playing in the car was a huge opportunity missed.
You forgot the most important one - the ducks. The show had only some pigeons and swans.
Susan Farley he didn't really save it. Aziraphale got pissy at him for sinking it and he just let it back up basically.
"This was altered to something more diabolical"
Me, a redhead: Oh, okay.
12:25 The way Aziraphale looks at Crowley and says "to the world" is literally perfect
Satan: where is my son?
Me: *mr Hamilton come in*
the crossover i didn't know i needed
*_can i see him pLeAsE_*
Adam be like: CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME!-"
`he just lost the USA presidential election
You forgot the biggest difference...in the book Crowley Hated Queen! Part of his damnation was that his beloved classical cassettes would after two weeks, become "The Best of Queen"!
That's not part of his damnation. That's just tapes that are left in the car for too long because the Bentley is naughty.
WOT
@@Hekateras I stand corrected.
@@Hekateras It's not just the Bentley. It's all cars.
@@CelynBrum in the book nearly the end he plays the water music by haendel in a jeep he stole, and the water music stays until the end. So its the Bentley that likes to change the tapes
Madame Tracey's spirit guide being a little Irish girl instead of a Native American was a good change too
yeah that was an oof in the book.
You know that change wasn't done for PC reasons right? People act like it was such an "enlightened" and "modern" choice, and how they want the book "fixed" similarly to have all the "offensive jokes" taken out. When REALLY, Neil changed it to a little Irish girl voice because he thought Aziraphale's voice suddenly breaking through after a high pitched female one would be funnier on screen. It's in the script book. Gaiman wasn't catering to snowflakes, he was just trying to make the scene even funnier.
One of the things I've been wondering about and this is admittedly not super addressed. But in the books when Aziraphale and Crowley spread their wings it rather implies that there aren't any differences between them. So I had kind of expected them both to be the same color in the show. XD
I noticed that too. Interestingly Gaiman also changed who had messier wings for the show. In the book, Crowley's were "better groomed" but in the script it says his wings had seen "better days" implying Aziraphale had neater wings than he did. Weird.
lovetolovefairytales It doesn't necessarily say Crowley's wing in the book, it just says demons wings are better groomed, and given their respective characterization as not being exactky like other angels/demons I find it quite fitting that Aziraphale's would be groomed, and Crowley's not as much.
my favorite character is Things Not Working Even After You've Given Them A Good Thumping
I missed Treading in Dogshit (formerly All Foreigners Especially the French, formerly Things Not Working Properly Even After You've Given Them a Good Thumbing, never actually No Alcohol Lager, briefly Embarrassing Personal Problems, formerly known as Skuzz).
Oh you mean People Covered In Fish?
Loved that guy... really hoped that they're in the series, but I understand why they didn't do it (wasn't that relevant for the story)
@@athen12 Yeah, but some things they added weren't that relevant either. And the Other Horsemen were hilarious. :(
@@kasiamleczarska9078 I know but I'm just happy that the series exists and that it's pretty good.
There should be the telepreacher scene. One of the best moments in the book (IMHO).
Yes, I was waiting for that scene!
@@kasiamleczarska9078 Me too. I think it was the one scene I was really disappointed wasn't there.
I've just found out from a live with Neil and David that they were planning to make the telepreacher scene and Michael McKeen was supposed to be the preacher. But Neil changed his mind and decided to cast him as Shadwell, and aside from that the scene had to be cut off because of funds/time limitations.
@@kasiamleczarska9078 Such a good scene it could be! Thank you for the information.
One of most funnest shows who came out recently ,both David and Michael deserved to win a Emmy for there roles.
honestly crowley putting aziraphale against the wall is one of my favourite scenes
You forgot in the book she, Anathema Device, only gets into the car before without fear when she sees Crowley say to as Azraphel, "Get in Ange."l that is when she is she says to herself, "She knew she was in safe hands with two consenting adults."
I think it was more like 'ah, a married gay couple with questionable fashion choices and endearing pet names', but yeah
I liked this! Some other significant changes, I think, are Adam's involvement in stopping the end of the world. In the book, he realizes what everyone else fails to understand, which is that people should just be allowed to get on with things without being meddled with. The other big change is how we are introduced to War in the book versus the show.
You have no idea what “flame red” is.
Dude the pronunciation is Cr-oh-ley!!!!
He changed his name from Crawley to Crowley so technically he isn't wrong with pronunciation
@@edgyraccoon6395 Crawly -> Crowley. And I think the correct pronunciation is used in the series, and nobody pronounces his name like this narrator...
Edgy Raccoon Crawly like, Crawl. They pronounce the name Crowley like this narrator in Supernatural. In this series it is pronounced Cr-oh-ley.
Thank you
He just used the American pronunciation.
I was really disappointed there was no back story stuff about Aziraphale and Crowley in the book. That was my favorite part in the series.
Love the book and the series great cast especially Michael Sheen and David Tennant they have great chemistry.
nah the real big difference is that in the book they held hands at the end of the world but in the show they didnt
Book: telephone spammers restored to life.
Show: never mentioned again.
I was always disappointed that they survived.
I loved this series!!! I was hoping for more! I already loved David from Dr Who and putting him with Michael Sheen was magic!!!
Yall forgot to include the entirety of Crowley mourning his husband's discorporation 'cause he thought Aziraphale died (maybe because he thought it was hellfire). Which includes the whole, "SOMEBODY KILLED MY BESTFRIEND!" line, and the whole "giving up and getting drunk at a local diner" scene.
Loved that, thank God they scooted that into the mini-series...
*SOMEBODY KILLED MY HUSBAND*
Every time Crowley is pronounced wrong I die a little inside
I feel that the switch at the end was kind of their way to make the oncoming season 2 have less heaven/hell influences because of a reason to “leave them alone” iconic scene btw-
While the nanny and the gardener were never EXPLICITLY called out as being A & C in disguise in the books, I always read it that way, even before the movie came out. The nanny and gardener were so comically good and evil, and so perfectly fashioned for their role that it was kind of hard to imagine that they were actual people. Most people in the book are a bit naff.
Another big one is Aziraphale wasn't as whiny in the book and he and Crowley were much more open about their friendship, they weren't constantly trying to hide it.
Well they had to add drama somehow. Also, they were a LITTLE angsty about their friendship in the book, like when Aziraphale wants to call Crowley when he works out who the Antichrist is but worries for several hours (if I remember correctly) that it would be "wrong" to do so. I think the only version their friendship was completely chill and angst free in was the radio play. They literally didn't worry about getting caught at all (except for one line about "would your side give me assylum/Ha nope, yours?/nope, sorry dear") and it's kinda cute how calm they are about it.
Technically Gabriel should be listening to aziraphael since Gabriel is an archangel and aziraphael is a principality which is higher than archangel
Teghjeet Walia wait wot
Um no, archangel is higher than principality. In the book it even refers to principalities as "a joke".
im sorry i dont mean to be rude but i don't believe that's accurate
cai I've done waaaaay too much reasearch on this and it really depends on which specific religion one practices. Some say archangels are below all the other specific ones with the normal angels (the two terms being practically interchangeable), whereas others have them right at the top, only second to god.
"God does not play games with the universe"
_"Where've you been?"_
Love that line.
"crow" ley, as in rhymes with "holy"
Kristine E I never thought about it that way before! Can you imagine him introducing himself as “Crowley, rhymes with holy” 😂😂
That's what Alastair said.
But don't tell him that.
The book is so good if y’all haven’t read it yet please do
I loved it!
What do you mean it's not explicit that Crowly and Az have a personal hand at raising Warlock?
We literally learn about how Crowly loves Marry Poppins and wanted to blow away the other applicant nannies with a tornado.
Then the tutors.
What?
David Tennant at 2:46 : "This all seems very familar for some reason."
The prophecy about the four horseman. Isn’t the “other four” being Shadwell, Madam Tracey, Aziraphale and Crowley? Crowleys car was on fire and the other three were on a flying motorbike
Or it was the Them, the 4 kids. It just was vague in saying And the 2 that is 3 and the flaming car, you know also.
In the book, there were four hells angels that rode with the original horsemen and became the "other" four horsemen. When they were cut from the tv show, it did not make sense for them to be included in the relevant prophecy. I cannot remember if "three as two..." bit was in the book but it is an accurate representation of shadwell et al.
The other horsemen are gracious bodily harm, cruelty to animals, things not working properly even after you've given them a good thumping but secretly no alcohol lager and really cool people
So no
Pretty sure they were the nanny and the gardener in the books too? That's just the vibe I got.
Yeah? Lol I have no idea what would give mojo a different impression
Especially considering that both of them's human networks consist of Shadwell
The office high rise and basement showcase that both Heaven and Hell are bureaucracies.
Reminds me of a quote: “Bureaucracy must expand to serve the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.”
number 1, they went from married for six thousand years to pining for six thousand years
Some of the changes were introduced by Neil Gaiman from material he and PTerry wrote for a proposed sequel (working title: "667: The Neighbour of the Beast") that was sadly never finished.
The thing with the nanny and the gardener is also heavily implied in the book...
I read them as being the nanny and the gardener in the book; that seemed clear. The gardener never gardened but his garden was magically the best, for pity’s sake!
I wish you'd stop misprouncing Crowley.
Interesting fact: when you see the escalator scene, you can see both aziraphale and Crowley walking on water. They both have faith. Not only that, focus on how Crowley sinks in the water. Since he’s a demon he’s lost faith. But for aziraphale he’s always have faith. It’s just like how in the Bible Jesus is walking on water.
Just thought that was interesting uwu
Edit: 5:22 here’s what I’m talking about
The two things I wish they could have put in the series was the true introduction to death from the novel, and all the references to Elvis still being alive.
They are the gardener and other helpers in the book.
They probably weren't though. Aziraphale makes it fairly clear he's not the gardener by saying his "team" is responsible for Warlock's being "too normal" and he does it in a corrective manner after saying "my influence". If it was him, he wouldn't have needed to correct himself. And while Crowley had a big part in that Nanny getting hired, as he even considered hurricaning her competition for the job away like the Nannies in Mary Poppins, he doesn't seem to literally BE her in the book. She has a different character/personality from him as well as a big dog (Crowley isn't shown as being a "pet person") that followed her everywhere. I figured she was just some random Satanist Crowley hired in the book.
Okay, I’m mostly against watchmojo, but you got me with this.
No, in the book there is written they help raise him. Crowley as a nanny even had a dog with him.
Number 8 is outright wrong. It was always implied the the Gardener & Nanny are Aziraphale & Crowley.
Aziraphale literally credits Warlock's upbringing as the good influence of his "little team". Very much implied that nanny, gardener and the tutors were people under their employ, and that Crowley and Aziraphale watched from the sidelines.
If Crowley was the Nanny in the book though, where did he get that random big dog the Nanny owns that we never see again after she leaves? And couldn't he and Aziraphale meet up in Warlock's house to talk if they were both working there, instead of on buses and in cafeterias? It doesn't make sense in book!universe.
Lol the narrator! "To top it off, said angel is played by JON HAMM!" Lol, fanboy much?
All the way through this I'm like....Crowley....Crow-ley.
Not once is he called Crowl-ley
Crow....like the bird....