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The Gith are definitely a scary species to go against. We've already seen how fierce they are in the Early Access of the game. More interactions with them later on in the game should prove to be quite eye-opening I think. Something tells me we're going to get manhandled a lot. 😅
The creator of Faerun and The Forgotten realms specifically said that there are no incorrect pronunciations. If you "Misprunounce" something - there is probably a place within the realms that pronounces it that way. There is no right or wrong way to say Selune, Zhentarim or any other organization, Deity, group or even individual names (Unless said individual corrects you).
I feel like it should be this way in the real world as well. My wife, a PhD in Linguistics, really broke my obsession with "proper" language and pronunciation. Realistically, the whole point of communicating is just to exchange information. As long as you have understood each other's words, the exchange has been "correct".
I got a feeling that every video you make has better quality, especialy the sounds. As always very pleasurable and interesting to watch! Can`t wait for next sunday :)
It's nice to see another take on Githyanki in games. Just remember the gish from the Neverwinter Nights 2's prologue and compare it to Lae'zel alone. The depth of her character and her quest altogether will surely be something I'll enjoy exploring through my Tav's eyes Cheers for the material, Wolf! See you soon, streaming!
its unfortunate that we were not offered the choice of githzerai as a playable race , it would have offered many interesting interactions with the other githyanki ingame
Great video! One thing I think is interesting is with regards to the 5:00 mark. According to Descent into Avernus, Tiamat should be in Avernus at the time BG3 takes place. And Karlach has ties to Avernus which we may end up investigating, we spend some time in the tutorial in Avernus...It's nothing concrete, but I am really hoping to find out what happened to Gith!
Amazing again. Reminded me of the old days playing Spelljammer in 2nd Edition. Not my favourite setting, but it was my first encounter with the Githyanki. I look forward to this every Monday morning (I live in Australia), and it's really helping to both make me excited for and while away the time until August 31. Have a fabulous week.
I very much look forward to seeing how much of the Githyanki story is told / expanded upon in BG3. While my first instinct would be to hope for "a lot" I suspect I may be disappointed if I start thinking about travelling to their Astral Plane home to overthrow Vlaakith, or solve the mystery of Gith and Tiamat... Something for a future expansion perhaps? That said we're almost certain to get some kind of window into their story through Laezal, the creches (at least one of which it seems we'll be able to visit) and the mysterious artifact of Githyanki origin. This game is touching on so many really big and exciting things (Githyanki, Illithids, Netheril, Avernus, the Zhentarim, certain Liches, the Underdark, the Dead Three) that unfortunately we know they can't go too deep into each of them without the game being excessively long and ending up with level 20 characters. Most of all, though, I'd love to have the option for a more psionic character development beyond the fixed selection of Githyanki powers. Even something for a recruitable NPC would be nice - a Gish or an Illithid perhaps, I'm not picky...
Me and the kids are playing in Dungeon of the Mad Mage campaign with our Monday night group. There is a gate in Undermountain the leads to Stardock!! It was a lot of fun to go there! I hope we can get to Stardock in BG3 as well
Like putting it in Character Creation? That'd be cool to have incompatible characters that clash with one another. Perhaps an option with the Paladin seeing the hag for what she really is early on? Roll a charisma check to reveal who she is, followed by a strength check to cut off her head before she transforms.
It would be nice to get the githzerai as a counter to the githyanki. I'm not too big a fan of Gith, since they were pretty much the main antagonists in Neverwinter 2. They were decent in planescape.
In BG2 there was a sword you could get from the Gith. If you put together the sword and hilt it would become Vorpal Sword. Its special ability is it has (if I remember) 10% chance of decapitating enemies, killing them outright. I wonder if this powerful item asosiated with Gith will make a return in BG3.
Thing is though, in lore - that sword isn't unique. There are lots of those around. There probably is one, considering your Githyanki already has lines claiming she wants one, an the Githyanki play a fairly big role. But not necessarily the one that made Minsc almost decent.
@@redelephantsdotnl I rarely used this blade. I mostly used the talking sword. coz it gives you immunity to fear (or charm). which is the perfect thing against the mindflayers
@@redelephantsdotnlLae'zel talks about wanting to wield a silver sword, not a vorpal sword. Huge difference as silver swords are presented to the Githyanki as soon as they become knights/kill an Illithid. It's moreso a rite of passage than anything else
@@zomenis I'm aware of the distinction, but that *still* makes it a non-unique item. Also, if the thing has the same name in BG2, it would be called 'Silver Sword'. Now, there is a bit of a discrepancy between the BG2 sword and 5E Githyanki swords - as 5E Githyanki swords aren't vorpal, they have a chance to cut one's Astral Cord; and the better version increasing tharrt chance. Admittedly, that is something that has never come up in any of my campaigns and I'm by no means an expert; but I suspect that'd do more or less the same to any regeular joe on the prime material plane, ie. Killing them. Now I'm not sure about AD&D Astral travel *either*, but in bg2 that's not a core mechanic at all, it would've been pointless to put that on the sword.
I listen to a D&D actual play podcast that ended up having mindflayers and gith as major antagonists and I learned the origin of githyanki. Ever since then I have been convinced they are incredibly cool. I don't know if I want to play one (I'd definitely play a githzerai if the opportunity arose) but I don't know if BG3 has really sold how awesome they are yet. Like, with their history I can kind of get why they're so convinced of their own superiority. Though Larian did introduce them riding dragons, which is automatically pretty awesome so I can't knock them too much there.
So my fav game (storywise) is another D&D based game that just beat BG1. Planescape:Torment. It featured a companion Darkon (Follower of Zerthimon) who was a Githzerai and in 2000 i was infatuated with these races. A little extra Lore for the Bards.. "The githyanki have been a fixture in Dungeons & Dragons ever since they showed up in the original Fiend Folio in 1981. Like drow, githyanki had mixed parties of different characters, featuring both front-line warriors and support casters. One of the specialized githyanki types was the gish, who was essentially a multi-class spellcaster (fighter/mage or thief/mage; githyanki do not have clerics). Over time, D&D fans picked up the term and started using it to refer to fighter/mage characters in general, especially if they actually fight in melee." Gish, by the way, is the Gith word for "Skilled". To play a Gish was a major thing in early D&D that affected many subclasses later on in newer TTRPGs/gaming.
Giths have been made in the image of Sparta. the creche feels like the Agoge and the rite of passage, kill a Mind Flayer, parallels the Spartan rite of passage where a young Spartan warrior had to kill a Spartan slave, a Helot (people from another Greek city North of Sparta). too many parallels for that not to be intended.
Wow. That video was particularly delicious to watch! Very good job Wolf! Storytelling is smooth, editing is on point! You have a bright future at doing these videos! 10/10
I had watched a few of your videos since I discovered you during that Panel From Hell, but this lore series is why I've subscribed. It's exactly what I want leading up to the release of the game.
So have you negotiated with larian yet for your storyteller cameo to appear in the game? Much deserved, you're stoking the flames of hype for thousands!
I wish we could play githzerai character. I am sure they would have different prereq stats than githyanki. Thank you for the very interesting lore video, Wolfheart! Always a pleasure to listen your input on BG lore! ❤
Yes... i agree with that... they made so many Elven variations... and didnt make a Githzerai... its a shame.... and it would be very interesting also to see, if you made a Githzerai character, the interaction he would have with Lae'zel... since they are enemies.
Its probably really simple and im just missing it, but (modern) Vlaakith is the 157th of the line? But you mentioned time moves slowly in the astral sea, so does that mean it genuinely has just been PLENTY of millennia then to get to the 157th? Great video btw, need to go back to see the others
It's suspicious and frankly disappointing that we haven't seen any Githzerai yet. Much less playable ones. They hate the mind flayers just as much as the githyanki and are even kin of sorts to githzerai, as implied with the prefix "gith." Githzerai are more like monks compared to the Githyanki's more militaristic lifestyle.
Exactly.. how the heck did they miss on that one??.. they dont listen to any player feedback?... many people dont know them.. but Githzerai have a hardcore Fanbase. How did they made some many Elven races.. and not Githzerai as a variation to Githyanki???..dammn shame it is...
Just a side note, i know this is a bit of a meta justification, but i think vlakith achieved divinity because clerics that devote themselves to her are able to use magic derived from her domain, which is something thats not possible with being's that arent divine. Although, considering that the githyanki are far from the most populous race, shes probably not a very powerful god.
Does anyone know if the Gith on Athas (Dark Sun) are in any way related to the astral Gith? There is not much info in the monster manual of that time. Just curious
The Dark Sun Gith have their origins as Githyanki. As they tried to conquer Athas they were made the victims of a Githzerai spell that corrupted the Githyanki affected. These corrupted Githyanki became Dark Sun's Gith. (For those not familiar with Dark Sun, this is a completely different D&D campaign setting with nothing to do with BG3).
Since you are referring to the game when pronouncing SelunE - Shadowheart also says SelunE's, which does sound like SelunA (like you said if I am not mistaken), but it's still SelunE. Again: If I haven't misheard something
"You corrected my pronunciation of Selûne , but I took it straight from the game!" *_Immediately proceeds to show a clip of the game where they use the other pronunciation._* 😂😂😂😂😂
It's mostly young red dragons that serve as steeds for the Githyanki, when they get older they tend to leave the Gith, and remember they only serve the Gith because the evil dragon goddess Tiamat herself told them so.
@@dantrag2890 Sure, that's totally cool if your doing that for your own campaign, but in "canon" D&D lore dragons are pretty comon. Atleast compared to something like Lord of the RIngs.
All that doesn't matter if the character looks like they came from Chernobyl. (sorry if that offends anyone) Their mechanical advantage doesn't outweigh me looking at rotten cucumber for the entire game. 😅
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The Gith are definitely a scary species to go against. We've already seen how fierce they are in the Early Access of the game. More interactions with them later on in the game should prove to be quite eye-opening I think. Something tells me we're going to get manhandled a lot. 😅
The creator of Faerun and The Forgotten realms specifically said that there are no incorrect pronunciations. If you "Misprunounce" something - there is probably a place within the realms that pronounces it that way. There is no right or wrong way to say Selune, Zhentarim or any other organization, Deity, group or even individual names (Unless said individual corrects you).
That being said, if you wanted to go with the game pronunciation in this series, you failed :D
I feel like it should be this way in the real world as well.
My wife, a PhD in Linguistics, really broke my obsession with "proper" language and pronunciation. Realistically, the whole point of communicating is just to exchange information.
As long as you have understood each other's words, the exchange has been "correct".
Thanks for your dedication to the lore of BG3/DnD! These videos help people get immersed in the world and appreciate it more.
I got a feeling that every video you make has better quality, especialy the sounds. As always very pleasurable and interesting to watch! Can`t wait for next sunday :)
To be honest, I was hoping to ve able to play a githzerai.
Imagine to dialogue with Le'zel.
Excellent video. Will be back later.
Thanks.
well who knows! We still have yet to see all of the playable races. Thanks!
I expect it would be about as friendly as the dialogue Shadowheart has with a Githyanki Tav... just less forgiving
@@jarrodbright5231 I would expect it to be like Oil and Torch. Oil and water are too friendly. Just waiting to go off!
i wonder if Githzerai will be playable too. It actually makes sense giving the Setting with Mindflayers
Yes... Githzerai is missing big time from character creation./// so many Elves.. but not Githzerai...
It's nice to see another take on Githyanki in games. Just remember the gish from the Neverwinter Nights 2's prologue and compare it to Lae'zel alone. The depth of her character and her quest altogether will surely be something I'll enjoy exploring through my Tav's eyes
Cheers for the material, Wolf! See you soon, streaming!
its unfortunate that we were not offered the choice of githzerai as a playable race , it would have offered many interesting interactions with the other githyanki ingame
Great video! One thing I think is interesting is with regards to the 5:00 mark. According to Descent into Avernus, Tiamat should be in Avernus at the time BG3 takes place. And Karlach has ties to Avernus which we may end up investigating, we spend some time in the tutorial in Avernus...It's nothing concrete, but I am really hoping to find out what happened to Gith!
"In knowing the teachings of Zerthimon I have become stronger."
Excited for this and your stream of the pc gaming show tomorrow!
Thanks Carli Carli
Amazing again. Reminded me of the old days playing Spelljammer in 2nd Edition. Not my favourite setting, but it was my first encounter with the Githyanki. I look forward to this every Monday morning (I live in Australia), and it's really helping to both make me excited for and while away the time until August 31. Have a fabulous week.
Did anyone notice the Gith in the movie? I'm not sure how he became a common bandit but there he was
yep! I noticed them! My best friend was shocked I could even tell they were a Gith from such a short clip.
I very much look forward to seeing how much of the Githyanki story is told / expanded upon in BG3. While my first instinct would be to hope for "a lot" I suspect I may be disappointed if I start thinking about travelling to their Astral Plane home to overthrow Vlaakith, or solve the mystery of Gith and Tiamat... Something for a future expansion perhaps? That said we're almost certain to get some kind of window into their story through Laezal, the creches (at least one of which it seems we'll be able to visit) and the mysterious artifact of Githyanki origin. This game is touching on so many really big and exciting things (Githyanki, Illithids, Netheril, Avernus, the Zhentarim, certain Liches, the Underdark, the Dead Three) that unfortunately we know they can't go too deep into each of them without the game being excessively long and ending up with level 20 characters.
Most of all, though, I'd love to have the option for a more psionic character development beyond the fixed selection of Githyanki powers. Even something for a recruitable NPC would be nice - a Gish or an Illithid perhaps, I'm not picky...
Me and the kids are playing in Dungeon of the Mad Mage campaign with our Monday night group. There is a gate in Undermountain the leads to Stardock!! It was a lot of fun to go there! I hope we can get to Stardock in BG3 as well
Oh man I forgot to talk about that!! Be careful when you are up there Keith, especially with the kids :-D
Even if they don't put Githzerai in, I'm going to have to pretend... but I'd love some actual interaction between the subraces if they sneak it in.
Like putting it in Character Creation? That'd be cool to have incompatible characters that clash with one another. Perhaps an option with the Paladin seeing the hag for what she really is early on? Roll a charisma check to reveal who she is, followed by a strength check to cut off her head before she transforms.
It would be nice to get the githzerai as a counter to the githyanki. I'm not too big a fan of Gith, since they were pretty much the main antagonists in Neverwinter 2. They were decent in planescape.
The quote you used at the very start made me think, “Yes queen - Slay!” Haha.
the snacko for good old algo
Oh gosh for me lazel is the most interesting char in the game
Agreed, I hate the other 4.
@@dantrag2890 yeah , they are not strong and do not deserve to live.
@@dantrag2890 i mean, Wyl is alright. the others, though, are annoying as fuck
I can't stand her, no tyrannical regime could ever catch my attention
In BG2 there was a sword you could get from the Gith. If you put together the sword and hilt it would become Vorpal Sword. Its special ability is it has (if I remember) 10% chance of decapitating enemies, killing them outright. I wonder if this powerful item asosiated with Gith will make a return in BG3.
Thing is though, in lore - that sword isn't unique. There are lots of those around. There probably is one, considering your Githyanki already has lines claiming she wants one, an the Githyanki play a fairly big role. But not necessarily the one that made Minsc almost decent.
@@redelephantsdotnl I rarely used this blade. I mostly used the talking sword. coz it gives you immunity to fear (or charm). which is the perfect thing against the mindflayers
@@redelephantsdotnlLae'zel talks about wanting to wield a silver sword, not a vorpal sword. Huge difference as silver swords are presented to the Githyanki as soon as they become knights/kill an Illithid. It's moreso a rite of passage than anything else
@@zomenis
I'm aware of the distinction, but that *still* makes it a non-unique item.
Also, if the thing has the same name in BG2, it would be called 'Silver Sword'.
Now, there is a bit of a discrepancy between the BG2 sword and 5E Githyanki swords - as 5E Githyanki swords aren't vorpal, they have a chance to cut one's Astral Cord; and the better version increasing tharrt chance. Admittedly, that is something that has never come up in any of my campaigns and I'm by no means an expert; but I suspect that'd do more or less the same to any regeular joe on the prime material plane, ie. Killing them.
Now I'm not sure about AD&D Astral travel *either*, but in bg2 that's not a core mechanic at all, it would've been pointless to put that on the sword.
I listen to a D&D actual play podcast that ended up having mindflayers and gith as major antagonists and I learned the origin of githyanki. Ever since then I have been convinced they are incredibly cool. I don't know if I want to play one (I'd definitely play a githzerai if the opportunity arose) but I don't know if BG3 has really sold how awesome they are yet. Like, with their history I can kind of get why they're so convinced of their own superiority. Though Larian did introduce them riding dragons, which is automatically pretty awesome so I can't knock them too much there.
Its a Shame they didnt include a Githzerai option in Character Creation.
Thank you for the video, Wolf. I hope we will meet the githzerai in BG3.
Same!
So my fav game (storywise) is another D&D based game that just beat BG1. Planescape:Torment. It featured a companion Darkon (Follower of Zerthimon) who was a Githzerai and in 2000 i was infatuated with these races. A little extra Lore for the Bards..
"The githyanki have been a fixture in Dungeons & Dragons ever since they showed up in the original Fiend Folio in 1981. Like drow, githyanki had mixed parties of different characters, featuring both front-line warriors and support casters. One of the specialized githyanki types was the gish, who was essentially a multi-class spellcaster (fighter/mage or thief/mage; githyanki do not have clerics). Over time, D&D fans picked up the term and started using it to refer to fighter/mage characters in general, especially if they actually fight in melee."
Gish, by the way, is the Gith word for "Skilled".
To play a Gish was a major thing in early D&D that affected many subclasses later on in newer TTRPGs/gaming.
1981? you are the indiana jones of DnD 🤠
“Endure, in enduring grow strong!” “In knowing yourself, you become whole” Brother
Best game I ever played! 💪
@@lehelkiss3919 you just gave me chills!!
@@redcapetimetraveler7688 i have a turn the page book that when you play the cassette it says "when you here indy's bull whip crap, turn the page!"
@@sesimie I hope in a good way! If yes, anytime. That game, and Dakon in particular deserves all praise it can get.
The more I hear about Githyanky, the more I miss Dak'kon.
He was a Githzerai, though.
"Know" that he was a Githzerai..... and "know" that I miss him too
Zerthimon's chosen
I know, different kind of Gith. Better kind of Gith. Always calm, always *knowing*, and always with great advice.
"Endure. In enduring grow strong."
Loved unlocking the unbreakable circle of Zerthimon
Giths have been made in the image of Sparta. the creche feels like the Agoge and the rite of passage, kill a Mind Flayer, parallels the Spartan rite of passage where a young Spartan warrior had to kill a Spartan slave, a Helot (people from another Greek city North of Sparta). too many parallels for that not to be intended.
Appreciate the Githyanki lore!
Wow. That video was particularly delicious to watch! Very good job Wolf! Storytelling is smooth, editing is on point! You have a bright future at doing these videos! 10/10
I had watched a few of your videos since I discovered you during that Panel From Hell, but this lore series is why I've subscribed. It's exactly what I want leading up to the release of the game.
Thanks Mike
no better channel then wolfheartFps when it comes to watching lorestuff videos^^ Great Vid
Ah, we shall see how Bae'zel and her peeps pan out in August, eh?
I would LOVE to go to a Kresh in BG3
The Gith are pretty cool tbh, Im probably going to play mostly Drow though. :)... also thats another one down :)
Thanks Wolf for another great video in the BG Lore series!
Thank you!
So have you negotiated with larian yet for your storyteller cameo to appear in the game? Much deserved, you're stoking the flames of hype for thousands!
hahah man that would be a dream come true!!!
8 Hours!!!?!?! What a tease you are... :D:D
Great video, Wolf. Always something new to learn.
Thanks Mark
i messed with them in BG2 lol
This title does not apply to bad asses
@@WolfheartFPS 😎
One more lovely video. Can't wait for the pc gaming show
just asking ... can i trick Vlakith by bringing her a rotten octopus and tell her that it was a mighty mindflayer ? 🐙🤫😉
Great lore video once again, Wolf!!
I wish we could play githzerai character. I am sure they would have different prereq stats than githyanki. Thank you for the very interesting lore video, Wolfheart! Always a pleasure to listen your input on BG lore! ❤
Don't know that we can't yet! There's always hope!
Yes... i agree with that... they made so many Elven variations... and didnt make a Githzerai... its a shame....
and it would be very interesting also to see, if you made a Githzerai character, the interaction he would have with Lae'zel... since they are enemies.
Great video! Can't wait to play this game. I'm saving every penny to buy a PC that can run BG3 more smoothly 😅
i love the bonfire
👍more good stuff can't wait for release 😎
Best BG3 content creator, right here folks! SKAL!
Cheers Kit!
Great episode as always
One of my fav channel
appreciate that
Its probably really simple and im just missing it, but (modern) Vlaakith is the 157th of the line? But you mentioned time moves slowly in the astral sea, so does that mean it genuinely has just been PLENTY of millennia then to get to the 157th?
Great video btw, need to go back to see the others
It's suspicious and frankly disappointing that we haven't seen any Githzerai yet. Much less playable ones. They hate the mind flayers just as much as the githyanki and are even kin of sorts to githzerai, as implied with the prefix "gith." Githzerai are more like monks compared to the Githyanki's more militaristic lifestyle.
Exactly.. how the heck did they miss on that one??.. they dont listen to any player feedback?... many people dont know them.. but Githzerai have a hardcore Fanbase. How did they made some many Elven races.. and not Githzerai as a variation to Githyanki???..dammn shame it is...
Just a side note, i know this is a bit of a meta justification, but i think vlakith achieved divinity because clerics that devote themselves to her are able to use magic derived from her domain, which is something thats not possible with being's that arent divine. Although, considering that the githyanki are far from the most populous race, shes probably not a very powerful god.
Not a powerfull god (yet), but a very powerfull lich.
*Kalach'cha intensifies*
Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks for watching
Make a video about the goblins i am Love them haha
I'm curious about more on BG lore video now. ^_^
hey Gold !
as a floridian do you concider yourself as a githyanki or as a
githconfederate ? ohhhhhh dumbest joke of this summer
@@redcapetimetraveler7688 Nani?!
Nice one
More like Githyankme 😩👉👈
Does anyone know if the Gith on Athas (Dark Sun) are in any way related to the astral Gith? There is not much info in the monster manual of that time. Just curious
The Dark Sun Gith have their origins as Githyanki. As they tried to conquer Athas they were made the victims of a Githzerai spell that corrupted the Githyanki affected. These corrupted Githyanki became Dark Sun's Gith. (For those not familiar with Dark Sun, this is a completely different D&D campaign setting with nothing to do with BG3).
@@phantomsplit3491 Thank you!!!!!
Lazel is cool
Do I need to play the first two games before I play 3
No... but it would be good if you watched a summary of the first 2 .. in video.
duh of course everybody knows that the gifjunkie is the most powerful in the internet
Cheers
I'm soooo glad that they revealed the main plot to this game is more than the mindflayer stuff. That was so unoriginal and boring.
hmm most likely tiamat ate her
skal to the pack
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Since you are referring to the game when pronouncing SelunE - Shadowheart also says SelunE's, which does sound like SelunA (like you said if I am not mistaken), but it's still SelunE. Again: If I haven't misheard something
Both are correct
I'm going to kill every single killable githyanki in the game. Can't wait to cleanse the world of their rot.
Kind of abrupt ending
just nitpicking: you should have used the word "mount" not "steed" for the red dragons
"You corrected my pronunciation of Selûne , but I took it straight from the game!"
*_Immediately proceeds to show a clip of the game where they use the other pronunciation._*
😂😂😂😂😂
He pronounced it the same the game does.
So dragonborn and Githyanki entire races were slaves most of their history.
Too bad they didn't add Githzerai
😮😊
Are these steeds they ride some sort of minor Red Dragons? It kinda diminishes the intimidation factor if they can be riden like a horse.
It's mostly young red dragons that serve as steeds for the Githyanki, when they get older they tend to leave the Gith, and remember they only serve the Gith because the evil dragon goddess Tiamat herself told them so.
@@The66Hammer IMO Reds should be few are far between... kinda like Smaug.
@@dantrag2890 Sure, that's totally cool if your doing that for your own campaign, but in "canon" D&D lore dragons are pretty comon. Atleast compared to something like Lord of the RIngs.
All that doesn't matter if the character looks like they came from Chernobyl. (sorry if that offends anyone)
Their mechanical advantage doesn't outweigh me looking at rotten cucumber for the entire game. 😅