Everyone, women and men, should hear this. Elizabeth Gilbert has a way of expressing these concepts in such an engaging way. Such an amazing gift she has!
What a beautiful way to frame this! She is a wonderful storyteller, human being! This speech is just WOW!! The way she speaks, it's healing itself! Thank you, Liz!
Wow. Her every word resonates with me at deeper personal level. Today listening to her made me feel seen so much. Experience is the biggest & realest teacher. Thank You Elizabeth. You amazed me and fired me up during my darkest times in COVID by your insights. You turned out to be a guiding light. Wooooooow. So glad i found you.
OMG I literally just created a new playlist with like mega super favorite talks (and it’s my #1 hobby this days, so I listen to a-lot), I-must-never-ever-forget-this-mindblowingmessage, because I truly need to have this more present. Hope both men and women get to hear. I am sharing for sure!
I have experienced this personally on the Buddhist path from 14 I put myself in violating positions when I wasn't enlightened I was just a girl trying to figure it out, as a 'good person'...thanks for validating that.
Oh my god!! Brilliant!! But check out Ireland's Saint Bridgid. A holiday has been declared to her here which I think will come to rival Saint Patricks day but in a female fashion
I loved learning that when the Irish were fighting the Romans, the women were fighting right alongside the men. There was no “help me save me.” It was “hand me my sword”
I think she's confusing self with ego in a couple of places. Everyone has ego - it is essential for getting things done in the world. Aligning the self with soul rather than purely with the ego is good for everyone, and I can see how that works differently for men and women. (Caroline Myss is good on the topic of soul and ego.) Love the example of Kali and drawing a circle around the self/soul! ❤
@shellabell2318 - she's NOT confusing self with ego at all. Most men live too much from their ego and they need to take it down a notch and become more selfless like women- that's what Liz implied in this talk. Many men are too selfish and many women are too selfless, and which creates so many problems in relationships all over the world. The self-power dynamic between men and women is NOT balanced at all, most men have too much, and women have too little in relationships, that's why we all suffer.
I get many of the points she makes about negative human traits etc. But where does she get all the divine feminine, divine masculine stuff from. She says women don't need to die to self, yet the bible says the opposite. We need to die to self, in the flesh dwells no good thing. The more we doe to our selfish pride, the more God can come into our lives and work through us. I understand that people are searching for answers and like everyone, I'm painfully aware of my own failings. Yet, we need to be careful of creating these ideas in our own minds, creating a god in our own minds. There is a real God and real standard to live by. The lessons in the bible about letting go of self, is for all humans, not just men. Her talk may sound nice on the face of it, but it goes against the bible.
Not everyone believes in the Bible. I was raised Catholic. There are a lot of great, general teachings in the Bible but there is a lot I don't agree with. I don't forget that it is a man-made book that has been revised many times over history. We all have God within us and I believe all of us combined is what God truly is. It's all just a push and pull of energy experiencing this world in different forms in order to advance a higher knowledge. Feminine and masculine are just the forms that different energies take. We've lost the balance over millions of years which is why she brought up the masculine (Jesus, Buddha, etc.) being worshipped for being balanced with naturally feminine traits brought them to the image of enlightened ones. Women, who in form, naturally embody more empathetic and giving traits are more balanced with boundaries.
@@coolbreeze5683 I too don't believe what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. I'm a born again Christian. Catholicism has many problematic teachings. That's why it's important to read the bible ourselves. We have the root scriptures. Look into the Dead Sea scrolls. It sounds like you believe in a very new age, man centred Jesus. God within, become enlightened kind of thing. I don't agree with that. God is outside of ourselves. But we can come into one with Him via the Holy Spirit when we repent and are born again. Which Jesus spoke of.
@@TonyQuinn-Art I don't believe in a man centered Jesus. I believe in a higher power which is the energy that we are all a part of. No "Him", no one to seek permission from, no one to fear. To me, it's not about being "enlightened" (that was the word Elizabeth used in a sarcastic tone and I echoed to emphasize that). It's about realizing we're all pieces of the same energy that comes from the whole. Since we're all on Earth and in human bodies, some choose to play the game of reading from man-made (in some cases fictional) teachings to try to make sense of our lives and try to find purpose. It's ok to play the game because that's why we're on this Earth but I believe that in the grand scheme of things, this all doesn't really matter. We just all make this playground for eachother to experience different things, highs and lows. I understand Elizabeth's explanation of trying to reach balance (masculine, feminine, profane, divine, etc), because I know it's all part of the game we play here on Earth. If people find comfort in books, different beliefs or religions, that's all good. I found something beyond that in my own life but as I mentioned, anyone can believe in whatever feels right for them.
I think the total message we need to be taught and shown by example from an early age is respect and within respect there is also humility but at it’s core it does not allow you be disrespected. I agree that the divine masculine/ feminine is one that gets pulled up - like some sort of enlightenment. The deepest message of Christianity has been very distorted over the ages and indeed contains severe hypocrisy that to this day abuses. It’s about privilege and protection- look at the Vatican and also the Bible belt of USA. Also the western privileged position frequently quotes Eastern religions and Hinduism in particular with a sort of feminine power that is highly protective. Look closely at the lives of people in India, the Caste system is officially no longer, poverty and living in conditions of human degradation are ignored by their fellow citizens and religious brothers and sisters. Kali was nowhere to be seen when the gang rapes that resulted in the deaths of women and girls happened. That is the atrocities that were reported in the Western media. We were all born to manifest the Divine- it’s not just in some of us- it’s in all of us.
It would sound provocative to most but I'll still say it. What she's talking about is the eastern wisdom which you can also find profoundly in İslam (I mean the real core, not the profaine masculine twisted form of it) where men are told to have only legal relationships with women. That means he should take the responsibility of the woman & her children. For that reason he receives the 2/3 of his family inheritance because he must give the half of it to the woman he gets married. The woman is the only owner of that possessions, that means she is not obliged to use it for the family but only for herself. The famous 4 wives story comes like that: Obviously men asked if they could take more than one wife, in this situation, because illegal relationships are not favoured. In Quran the answer is given as "Yes, up to four, but only if you can handle the situation, making each of them consent & feeling they're justifully cared for. But that is not easy & not recommended for every men. Know that you'll be liable of this contract in the afterlife" Of course these were the answers of that day and that type of extremely profaine masculine ruled society, yet still all these seem to be more feminine friendly than todays world.
Your description of profane men is nonsensical to me . I am female . The most toxic people in my life have all been women. My mother was too wonderful but my 2 older sisters not so much - highly emotionally abusive , jealous , vindictive. They ruined my life. My husband is an Angel - he has been my rock. So please don’t weave gender into kindness, compassion , decency. Please. You get compassionate and decent people - some are men ; some are women. Period. Your husbands response to your divorce was so natural ! From his perspective it came out of the blue. He was deeply hurt for goodness sake . Are you trying to spin a narrative that says when women are treated in the same way, they go and crawl under a rock ? Some might but there are others that will fight back just as your husband did. Out of deep confusion and pain.
This is such a dangerous message. No, giving up the self has nothing to do with codependence, there is an OTHER self ( the soul) that you start living from. Jesus was not telling men to become creatures without discernment and boundaries. Giving up egocentricity has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. The "kindness" that you "allowed" Elisabeth has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with giving up self. Look closer, you were trading with him: you wanted something from him, THAT is why you stayed. And you acted not from love to him but from scarcity and fear. Simple
She is accepting the truth about herself.... She was naive n ignorant...this entire talk is for lifting both men n women above trading each other for survival... Being a woman, how to give more without losing herself 😊...
Everyone, women and men, should hear this. Elizabeth Gilbert has a way of expressing these concepts in such an engaging way. Such an amazing gift she has!
I'm listening again and again. Trying to embody this wisdom and become more divine.
You already embody this. It is your birthright. Now simply express.
What a beautiful way to frame this! She is a wonderful storyteller, human being! This speech is just WOW!! The way she speaks, it's healing itself! Thank you, Liz!
Wow. Her every word resonates with me at deeper personal level. Today listening to her made me feel seen so much. Experience is the biggest & realest teacher.
Thank You Elizabeth. You amazed me and fired me up during my darkest times in COVID by your insights. You turned out to be a guiding light. Wooooooow. So glad i found you.
So Beautiful…. “Deep titanium spine that rises from the earth.” 🦋 Powerful message, powerful BEing. Thank you for sharing.
OMG I literally just created a new playlist with like mega super favorite talks (and it’s my #1 hobby this days, so I listen to a-lot), I-must-never-ever-forget-this-mindblowingmessage, because I truly need to have this more present. Hope both men and women get to hear. I am sharing for sure!
A woman with boundaries is called all sorts of names. Name calling exposes a lack of personal boundaries. Go Liz 💖
Yes, yes and yes!!!
Thank you for helping me see I'm exactly where l need to be, doing exactly what is OK.
THANK YOU🙏💓
She delivers!
She does it again. Over and over again. 👏🏽
she is magic
The best lecture/speech EVER!!! I really needed this - Thank You 🩷🤩🩷
I AGREE!!! Thank You!!!!❤
Amazing! Free our Kali!!
Wow. Just amazing 🔥🔥🔥
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!
Wow! I've never heard this concept before but it feels so right. I feel empowered. I'm crying. I'm going to share this around.
i heard so much about her she takes every day experences and makes them wonderful.
I have experienced this personally on the Buddhist path from 14 I put myself in violating positions when I wasn't enlightened I was just a girl trying to figure it out, as a 'good person'...thanks for validating that.
Yes- me too, I moved from Catholic to Buddhist and held the very same…
God is a Woman. ❤
❤❤❤Thank you elizabeth gilbert...Godbless you always
Ohhh myy God...u r awesome 😎❤
Off to delte my inbox and ROAR from the top of my mountain:)
Thank you for a powerful truth ❤
I love this! Thank you Liz ❤️
Oh my god!! Brilliant!! But check out Ireland's Saint Bridgid. A holiday has been declared to her here which I think will come to rival Saint Patricks day but in a female fashion
I loved learning that when the Irish were fighting the Romans, the women were fighting right alongside the men. There was no “help me save me.” It was “hand me my sword”
Love this! ❤❤❤
Great speech!! What' more, everything Liz Gilbert writes or says, are most precious words of wisdom! And Big Magic is my favourite book ever!
Absolutely amazing! I definitely needed to hear and apply all of this. ❤🔥
Every word!! Ladies get to know Kali. Stand y for yourself in matters big and small. That’s how you liberate yourself.
important lesson!
❤❤❤
I think she's confusing self with ego in a couple of places. Everyone has ego - it is essential for getting things done in the world. Aligning the self with soul rather than purely with the ego is good for everyone, and I can see how that works differently for men and women. (Caroline Myss is good on the topic of soul and ego.)
Love the example of Kali and drawing a circle around the self/soul! ❤
@shellabell2318 - she's NOT confusing self with ego at all. Most men live too much from their ego and they need to take it down a notch and become more selfless like women- that's what Liz implied in this talk. Many men are too selfish and many women are too selfless, and which creates so many problems in relationships all over the world. The self-power dynamic between men and women is NOT balanced at all, most men have too much, and women have too little in relationships, that's why we all suffer.
Ohhhh my god 😍
Wow...
Hi, All!
Does anyone here know when she gave this talk (the in person talk, not the video posting)? Thanks! Cheers!
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✨🙌✨ Ii don't care 💓 gracias 🙏🪷 gracias
wow..JUST WOW...I have not heard nothing, (zero, zilch, nada) like this before. Sarah sure makes us think. That's for sure.
Nice try
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Über - Surprise🌱🌪🧚♀️❤
Interesting…..,
I want to see her give that speech about Kali in a temple full of men in India 😂😂😂
A room of male republicans.
I get many of the points she makes about negative human traits etc. But where does she get all the divine feminine, divine masculine stuff from. She says women don't need to die to self, yet the bible says the opposite. We need to die to self, in the flesh dwells no good thing. The more we doe to our selfish pride, the more God can come into our lives and work through us. I understand that people are searching for answers and like everyone, I'm painfully aware of my own failings. Yet, we need to be careful of creating these ideas in our own minds, creating a god in our own minds. There is a real God and real standard to live by. The lessons in the bible about letting go of self, is for all humans, not just men. Her talk may sound nice on the face of it, but it goes against the bible.
Not everyone believes in the Bible. I was raised Catholic. There are a lot of great, general teachings in the Bible but there is a lot I don't agree with. I don't forget that it is a man-made book that has been revised many times over history.
We all have God within us and I believe all of us combined is what God truly is. It's all just a push and pull of energy experiencing this world in different forms in order to advance a higher knowledge.
Feminine and masculine are just the forms that different energies take. We've lost the balance over millions of years which is why she brought up the masculine (Jesus, Buddha, etc.) being worshipped for being balanced with naturally feminine traits brought them to the image of enlightened ones. Women, who in form, naturally embody more empathetic and giving traits are more balanced with boundaries.
@@coolbreeze5683 I too don't believe what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. I'm a born again Christian. Catholicism has many problematic teachings. That's why it's important to read the bible ourselves. We have the root scriptures. Look into the Dead Sea scrolls. It sounds like you believe in a very new age, man centred Jesus. God within, become enlightened kind of thing. I don't agree with that. God is outside of ourselves. But we can come into one with Him via the Holy Spirit when we repent and are born again. Which Jesus spoke of.
@@TonyQuinn-Art I don't believe in a man centered Jesus. I believe in a higher power which is the energy that we are all a part of. No "Him", no one to seek permission from, no one to fear.
To me, it's not about being "enlightened" (that was the word Elizabeth used in a sarcastic tone and I echoed to emphasize that). It's about realizing we're all pieces of the same energy that comes from the whole.
Since we're all on Earth and in human bodies, some choose to play the game of reading from man-made (in some cases fictional) teachings to try to make sense of our lives and try to find purpose.
It's ok to play the game because that's why we're on this Earth but I believe that in the grand scheme of things, this all doesn't really matter. We just all make this playground for eachother to experience different things, highs and lows.
I understand Elizabeth's explanation of trying to reach balance (masculine, feminine, profane, divine, etc), because I know it's all part of the game we play here on Earth.
If people find comfort in books, different beliefs or religions, that's all good. I found something beyond that in my own life but as I mentioned, anyone can believe in whatever feels right for them.
I think the total message we need to be taught and shown by example from an early age is respect and within respect there is also humility but at it’s core it does not allow you be disrespected. I agree that the divine masculine/ feminine is one that gets pulled up - like some sort of enlightenment.
The deepest message of Christianity has been very distorted over the ages and indeed contains severe hypocrisy that to this day abuses. It’s about privilege and protection- look at the Vatican and also the Bible belt of USA. Also the western privileged position frequently quotes Eastern religions and Hinduism in particular with a sort of feminine power that is highly protective. Look closely at the lives of people in India, the Caste system is officially no longer, poverty and living in conditions of human degradation are ignored by their fellow citizens and religious brothers and sisters. Kali was nowhere to be seen when the gang rapes that resulted in the deaths of women and girls happened. That is the atrocities that were reported in the Western media.
We were all born to manifest the Divine- it’s not just in some of us- it’s in all of us.
It would sound provocative to most but I'll still say it. What she's talking about is the eastern wisdom which you can also find profoundly in İslam (I mean the real core, not the profaine masculine twisted form of it) where men are told to have only legal relationships with women. That means he should take the responsibility of the woman & her children. For that reason he receives the 2/3 of his family inheritance because he must give the half of it to the woman he gets married. The woman is the only owner of that possessions, that means she is not obliged to use it for the family but only for herself. The famous 4 wives story comes like that: Obviously men asked if they could take more than one wife, in this situation, because illegal relationships are not favoured. In Quran the answer is given as "Yes, up to four, but only if you can handle the situation, making each of them consent & feeling they're justifully cared for. But that is not easy & not recommended for every men. Know that you'll be liable of this contract in the afterlife" Of course these were the answers of that day and that type of extremely profaine masculine ruled society, yet still all these seem to be more feminine friendly than todays world.
Your description of profane men is nonsensical to me . I am female . The most toxic people in my life have all been women. My mother was too wonderful but my 2 older sisters not so much - highly emotionally abusive , jealous , vindictive. They ruined my life. My husband is an Angel - he has been my rock. So please don’t weave gender into kindness, compassion , decency. Please. You get compassionate and decent people - some are men ; some are women. Period.
Your husbands response to your divorce was so natural ! From his perspective it came out of the blue. He was deeply hurt for goodness sake . Are you trying to spin a narrative that says when women are treated in the same way, they go and crawl under a rock ? Some might but there are others that will fight back just as your husband did. Out of deep confusion and pain.
@jacquietarr7280 I've enjoyed reading your perspective on gender essentialism. You are spot on!
Uff
anyone who weaves words and idea is questionable. there is such a thing as divine order. nuff said.
This is such a dangerous message. No, giving up the self has nothing to do with codependence, there is an OTHER self ( the soul) that you start living from. Jesus was not telling men to become creatures without discernment and boundaries. Giving up egocentricity has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. The "kindness" that you "allowed" Elisabeth has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with giving up self. Look closer, you were trading with him: you wanted something from him, THAT is why you stayed. And you acted not from love to him but from scarcity and fear. Simple
She is accepting the truth about herself.... She was naive n ignorant...this entire talk is for lifting both men n women above trading each other for survival... Being a woman, how to give more without losing herself 😊...
There is a piece to the Jesus message that can be used against a person from childhood, most especially in loveless families with an abuse of power.
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