1:24 I work in a company that also makes devices. It's true that prototypes, especially early ones are usually made of cheaper materials, as long as it doesn't affect hardware in it, because who the hell cares how it looks? Certanly not devs. One of the devices that I actually still use daily IS a prototype(and is an DVT), and it's chasis is very different from final. The color is black instead of what is final, it has rough edges, and the buttons are not as clicky as on finished product. If I looked closer I probably would've found more differences.
i legit had one of these, i buy laptops in bulk and had a powerbook that had a red logic board, did not know it was a prototype, ended up throwing it out as it had a broken lcd and no one wanted it, even listed it for free and had no interest in it, i now regret throwing it out
Seeing the inside of that PowerBook gave me flashbacks to when I pulled apart my 15" 5,8 to install a SSD. I had a 12" 6,8 before that, but I found the graphics performance of the GeForce FX Go5200 was holding it back, and upgrading to the 15" model was not only a slight bump in CPU speed, but also big upgrade to the graphics with the mobility Radeon 9700. The guy who I bought the 12" PB off also asked if I wanted to sell it back to him, so once I got the 15", I just sent the 12" back for free since he gave me a great deal to begin with. I got a pretty good deal on the 15", so that pretty much made up for what I would've gotten for the 12". Since then I managed to find an aftermarket replacement battery that actually works, and because I imported it from the UK, I managed to find a replacement US American layout keyboard. But I haven't had a chance to replace it yet, since there's a good risk of destroying something in the process.
Those key dimples look to me like maybe they didn't have the injection molding tuned quite right, and there was shrinkage. Like I wouldn't be surprised if there is a post or feature molded into the back side of the key at each dimple.
Its a different texture to case because the prototype stage doesn’t require any finish work. This is just a fit and usability version. Probably half way through the test stage. Plus the tooling will not be ready anyways.
Too bad the last of them were 2011s, with their self-destructing video subsystems. I had one, video failed, had that board re-flowed, worked for a little while and died again. Really nice machine, but 2011 Apple laptops were bad news across the line. RIP.
6:14 "or there's a completely different hard drive in them anyway". Well, the accompanying clip shows the drive was made in '07, so yes, we know where things are going.
I still have one of the last models of the G4 Powerbook and its box with "All" its original accessories, including the protective cover for the keyboard so it doesn't scratch the screen. Nice to see a a prototype though. I know prototype are your thing.
What is it with PowerPC and the color red that always leads to bricks, whether PowerBook, Xbox, or PlayStation? I mean, you'd think IBM's partners would account for heating (in the X360 and PS3's case, I'm unsure about PowerBooks (I was born post Y2K, so no personal experience with them)?
On the power on self test page it says the failure type was caused by External Cache Idk what the cache is for I never owned a Mac but I’m assuming it’s something to do with memory
I went to Walmart this morning and in the as seen on tv area there more more "artic air coolers there. One is a little pocket size artic air, another is one you put around your neck, and one that says ultra artic air. Seems they must be doing well in selling them to come up with these gems. Also I seen a 6 can mini fridge that holds 6 cans of whatever you like to drink as long as it's a regular 16 oz. Has coke cola brands a red, a grey one for diet, sprite, and also seen a Budweiser one too! They have both an AC and a car charger cord. They are 29.00 dollars. Does anyone know if these are any good would love to get one if they do keep your drinks cold? Love to have it in the car for traveling and maybe camping
I bought my New wife an ipod for her birthday in 2007 or 8, can't really remember, only for it to fail after 13 months- as I had paid a huge amount of British pesos for it, I was rather pissed off, and so have never bought another apple product ever since, and never will! they shot themselves in the foot with their greed and inbuilt redundancy so F**K Apple forever. (nowadays I could have repaired it thanks to Big Clive UA-cam Channel)
Special thanks to DongleBookPro for making this episode possible! Subscribe and stay tuned for more to come… (hint: Apple's WWDC 2022 is soon). 🔔
I see what you are going to do next (something like what you did w/ WWDC 2021,right?)
Those "dimples" in the keys are just artifacts of low production/fast/prototype injection molding, not durability testing.
Cool! Honestly this era of PowerBook may well be my favorite generation of Apple laptops.
It didn't bong when the power button was pushed, kinda makes sense that it failed the power on self test. What caused it though is a mystery.
you can mute the startup chime
@@bokieiey Maybe in modern versions but im not sure you can in such an old mac.
Could also be bad speakers, I’ve heard it’s a common issue with these 17 inch powerbook. Mine also doesn’t have working speakers.
@@EvilTurkeySlices I'm thinking it's either bad speakers or a failed POST since the volume was set to full in Mac OS.
@@bokieiey boky boy
I love these types of “exploring rare prototype …” videos and I love to see the software you find on it like that one iMac. Please make more!
This is such a cool episode. I just wish it was longer.
1:24 I work in a company that also makes devices. It's true that prototypes, especially early ones are usually made of cheaper materials, as long as it doesn't affect hardware in it, because who the hell cares how it looks? Certanly not devs.
One of the devices that I actually still use daily IS a prototype(and is an DVT), and it's chasis is very different from final. The color is black instead of what is final, it has rough edges, and the buttons are not as clicky as on finished product. If I looked closer I probably would've found more differences.
What device do you use that's a prototype? One of your company?
@@SkynetCyb Yeah, I'm a dev, and it's also marked as DVT. Pretty cool.
What’s the name of the prototyped product tho?
@@LeseanDeVon I'm not gonna be specific because my company doesn't like that, but you most likely use this device quite a lot
i legit had one of these, i buy laptops in bulk and had a powerbook that had a red logic board, did not know it was a prototype, ended up throwing it out as it had a broken lcd and no one wanted it, even listed it for free and had no interest in it, i now regret throwing it out
Seeing the inside of that PowerBook gave me flashbacks to when I pulled apart my 15" 5,8 to install a SSD. I had a 12" 6,8 before that, but I found the graphics performance of the GeForce FX Go5200 was holding it back, and upgrading to the 15" model was not only a slight bump in CPU speed, but also big upgrade to the graphics with the mobility Radeon 9700.
The guy who I bought the 12" PB off also asked if I wanted to sell it back to him, so once I got the 15", I just sent the 12" back for free since he gave me a great deal to begin with. I got a pretty good deal on the 15", so that pretty much made up for what I would've gotten for the 12".
Since then I managed to find an aftermarket replacement battery that actually works, and because I imported it from the UK, I managed to find a replacement US American layout keyboard. But I haven't had a chance to replace it yet, since there's a good risk of destroying something in the process.
Those key dimples look to me like maybe they didn't have the injection molding tuned quite right, and there was shrinkage. Like I wouldn't be surprised if there is a post or feature molded into the back side of the key at each dimple.
But it didn’t post.
i like this type of videos because its a quick view of a very rare apple prototype
Its a different texture to case because the prototype stage doesn’t require any finish work. This is just a fit and usability version. Probably half way through the test stage. Plus the tooling will not be ready anyways.
Ken: We'll check out the differences.
Me: Start off with the scratches....
First when I saw the scratches on the lid I legit thought for a second or two that this PowerBook belonged to “how to basic”
7:18 "The rut of the hard drive"
2:04 I bet the display in that housing can show some really Deep Purple’s
How do you get these things? Great vid by the way.
He’s friends with steve Wozniak.
@@lawnside82 How does he get these things?
@@vasya_cat just looking at the marketplaces ebay etc. probably
Thx for answering
@@TheManicTechCast he's in contact with other people that own prototypes (like DongleBookPro as mentioned in the channel)
0:00 Yes, my usual PowerBook G4 that I use everyday. Like everyone. 🤣🤣🤣
I’m really loving the prototype board content!
Impressive, very nice.
Let's see Paul Allen's Mac.
Man do I miss 17in MacBooks. I know the new one is 16in so it is nice to see they do still care about lager laptops
Too bad the last of them were 2011s, with their self-destructing video subsystems. I had one, video failed, had that board re-flowed, worked for a little while and died again. Really nice machine, but 2011 Apple laptops were bad news across the line. RIP.
6:14 "or there's a completely different hard drive in them anyway". Well, the accompanying clip shows the drive was made in '07, so yes, we know where things are going.
I still have one of the last models of the G4 Powerbook and its box with "All" its original accessories, including the protective cover for the keyboard so it doesn't scratch the screen.
Nice to see a a prototype though. I know prototype are your thing.
The metal on it looks really worn out. I wonder if its been dropped a few times?
The motherboard is red. Holy Dell.
My Powerbook G4 17" 1.67 GHZ, 2 GB SD Ram is still running strong and all, replaced Hard drive, DVD drive DIY.
Does this still have the fiberoptic backlight that was all the rage back then?
Follow-up video as well to discuss the prototype and the OS?
7:02 nice
I miss 17' laptops, especially for desktop replacements, 15 inch is just a tad too small for that imo
Well, there are still many gaming laptops like this, and they are for sure a desktop replacement
That's an unusual way to say “root” 7:18
When are you going to do a Hackintosh video?
still asking myself where you get those prototypes
So does this mean that robots are testing Apple's butterfly keyboard?
Very interesting video
what is that imac in the background it looks so odd
What is it with PowerPC and the color red that always leads to bricks, whether PowerBook, Xbox, or PlayStation? I mean, you'd think IBM's partners would account for heating (in the X360 and PS3's case, I'm unsure about PowerBooks (I was born post Y2K, so no personal experience with them)?
Random .. seeing Ken et al not using a grounding wire ... it seems that a grounding wire was once recommended or am I imagining that suggestion?
You could say he’s “craaaaaaazzzzzzyyyyyy”
I'd take it to Apple service, and tell that battery isn't holding as good as new :D
2:09 Made in Taiwan! 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
The surface treatment you refer to is sandblasting.
IIRC, you typically blast and THEN anodize, yeah?
Almost seems like Apple usually uses red for prototypes, loin at Luke Miamis prototype video is told haven’t already.
Krazy Ken - Apple fanboy 🍎 🤣
My old desktop has a purple pcb
What's next??
Interesting
I just see this video now, but i diagree Apple Inc. remains a big WillyWonka Company for me :P
Wow
On the power on self test page it says the failure type was caused by External Cache
Idk what the cache is for I never owned a Mac but I’m assuming it’s something to do with memory
Awesome!
how carzy are u?
Could I invite you to review our MINI PC?
I went to Walmart this morning and in the as seen on tv area there more more "artic air coolers there. One is a little pocket size artic air, another is one you put around your neck, and one that says ultra artic air. Seems they must be doing well in selling them to come up with these gems.
Also I seen a 6 can mini fridge that holds 6 cans of whatever you like to drink as long as it's a regular 16 oz. Has coke cola brands a red, a grey one for diet, sprite, and also seen a Budweiser one too! They have both an AC and a car charger cord. They are 29.00 dollars. Does anyone know if these are any good would love to get one if they do keep your drinks cold? Love to have it in the car for traveling and maybe camping
17 minutes in and 800 views, nice job man.
(for comparison, mine made like 2 views in an hour)
Wait, say root again
New video!
OhLookImma1st
Little comments :(
only he can get this stuff
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I bought my New wife an ipod for her birthday in 2007 or 8, can't really remember, only for it to fail after 13 months- as I had paid a huge amount of British pesos for it, I was rather pissed off, and so have never bought another apple product ever since, and never will! they shot themselves in the foot with their greed and inbuilt redundancy so F**K Apple forever. (nowadays I could have repaired it thanks to Big Clive UA-cam Channel)
Lol
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Cool, ill coment on my own comment on my own comment to see how good it was
Yep, cool 👍
Eee early