To be fair the many battles on the Isonzo were similar to the endless offensives that other countries launched on many fronts without any breakthrough. They weren’t launched always in the same area but on different points of the front. Any away, respect to the soldiers that bravely fought these battles.
@@hansemmen3862 my funny german friend, your country lost 2 world wars and most of its territory. Look at a pre ww2 map of germany. Next time don’t follow mad austrians with bad painting skills.
@@hansemmen3862 sorry but wasn't it in germany that the police thwarted a coup d'état by far-right militants with ex-army members involved this December? Also it seems to me that neo-Nazis are gaining a lot of support in Germany. Who would be the ones who learned from their defeats?
@@pietrocecconi3215 Isn't this the entirety of the world? Devision and far right groups gaining more and more traction? Also at least they stopped the "coup" (more like wannabe), you saound like you didn't like that. Italy unfortunately has had a high level of right wing support within their political field and unlike most countries in WW2, Germany has done their utmost to never repeat their mistakes. Very much reflected in how it is taught in school, showing how aweful it was, while other countries simply paint a black and white picture. Choosing between the two, I'd rather live in germany. The sad reality is that due to the current turmoil, nationalists and their substitutes are gaining power around the world, riling up the people by blaming the goverments for the situation were in, while suggesting that the issue comes from a certain group of people rather than an actual problem within the system or without suggesting a humane solution for that problem in the system.
Great choice of songs. The musical tradition of the Alpini and of the Italian Alps in general has a profound connection to WWI. Dozens of chants and songs about every peak and mountain they fought for, and the struggle and death of thousand of young men. It clashes with the upbeat marches and propagandistic songs that the Italian Army is well known for.
Sul cappello sul cappello che noi portiamo, c'è una lunga c'è una lunga penna nera, che a noi serve che a noi serve da bandiera, su pei monti su pei monti a guerreggiar
Thanks for mentioning the Czechoslovak legion, my grandpa was there, he was from Domažlice and his name was Josef Fronk. He was 18 years old in 1917 when he got drafted into the Austro-Hungarian army, he got put into the Landwehrinfanterieregiment Nr. 7 which fought on the Russian front. But by the time he was done the regiment had transfered over to the Italian front, just in time to defend against the Italian offensive - The 11th Battle of Isonzo. 4 days into the offensive on August 22nd 1917 when the Italians crossed the river he surrendered to Italian forces in the little town of Deskle (in todays Slovenia), it is located very close to the Sabotino mountain. He then spent almost a year in a prisoner camp that is as of now unknown to me. On the 12th of July 1918 he joined the Czechoslovak Legion, into the 31. pěší pluk. He fought all the way to the end and even tho he did get wounded a couple of times, he survived the war. After he came home he served in the new established armed forces and then joined the Financial Guard in 1921. From what I know he never spoke about the war and hated having to think about it. He died peacefully in 1978.
@@smrzolin3064troppo dolore, troppa sofferenza da rivivere immagino, mio nonno fu Cavaliere di Vittorio Veneto come tanti altri reduci ma tra i fratelli ne perse uno sulle Alpi nel '17, era nel mitico corpo dei Bersaglieri. Quanti commilitoni, tra cui compaesani e amici morti, ricordare è doloroso e parlarne ancora più doloroso. In Italia abbiamo avuto un grande poeta come Ungaretti che ha scritto delle bellissime poesie sulla guerra che combatté, ed Emilio Lussu grande politico sardo ci ha lasciato un bellissimo romanzo autobiografico su quegli eventi "Un anno sull'altipiano", per elencare solo due ma anche altri ci hanno lasciato narrazioni, in prima persona, vivide e dolorosissime. 🖤
Some people says ''my grandpa survived the war'' or ''my grandpa survived battle of veneto'' Is battle of Veneto (I dont know am I wrting the battle name correct) really huge battle?
So, a little fun story about my great-grandfather who fought in WWI in Veneto and got sent to the front in his late 30s towards the end of the war (when they had gone through most of the youth available at the time) he got shot in the chest and left momentairly for dead by his comrades only to wake up hours later and find out that the bullet had gone through from one side to the other without any major damage. He managed to see the end of the war and decades later in the late 70s when conducting some radio exams the doctors discovered that the lung hit by the bullet had collapsed some 50 years prior but no one including him had realized it until that day. He died shortly after in his late 80s. Edit: so, given the likes I felt the need to double check this story I've been told as a kid and here are the facts, he was born in 1876, was called in 1916 at age 39 (would be 40 later that year) in the _245° Battaglione Milizia Territoriale_ and actually died in 1965 (not in the 70s) at age 88. We still have the papers from WWI for my great grandfather (Piave, ecc) and WWII papers of my grandfather (Africa, Greece, Albania). I'm gonna leave the original comment above as originally posted.
My great-grandfather fought in WWI too. Born in 1897 and passed away in 1979. When I was a kid, I was used to wear my Alpini’s hat (given by my grandfather, who was one of them) and my other grandfather (son of this my great grandfather) has a picture of me making the military salute 🫡 in front of his father's gravestone while wearing my Alpini’s hat
My great grandfather was from Cadore, an area bordering Austria, so he fought in the Dolomites at over 2000 m with ice and cold. He also fought in the Battle of Vittorio Veneto. He survived and he transmitted a lot of Alpini songs to my grandfather who sometimes, at 89, sings them to us. I also learned many of this songs
Montepiana di Cadore? Appena stato, impressionante e terrificante allo stesso tempo, trincee con postazioni di mitragliatrici puntate ai nemici a circa 60m, circondati da ghiaccio, fango e sangue...
The victory with the crossing of the piave river deserves a Hollywood movie. They came out of the water at the same time at the first light of sunrise to attack the Austrians guarding the waters on top of them. It was the Sardinian Brigade not the alpines in that battle. The Austrians called them red demons and "dimonios"/"demons" is still their anthem.
Italy is a country where i will always respect the WW1 veterans, there balls weighed on the Alps, and did it all for there love for Italy and kingdom and families. Avanti Savoia!
The funniest thing is that we didn't even speak the same language, but we had around 28 different languages, so the soldiers didn't understand each other. They only knew that when they shouted "Avanti Savoia" they had to run out of the trench.
infatti l'italiano per come lo conosciamo oggi è proprio un miscuglio tra tutti i dialetti parlati proprio dai soldati perchè se ti vuoi appigliare al vero italiano dovrebbe essere il volgare fiorentino@@NoName-hg6cc
It Il fronte italiano è molto sottovalutato, a causa delle scarse avanzate da parte degli eserciti, ma se ci facciamo caso, sono impressionanti, considerando che le battaglie venivano combattute quasi sempre sui monti, a 2000 metri di altezza, con un freddo pesante in inverno, e con poche risorse. Onore a tutti coloro che hanno perso la vita per la loro Patria English: The italian front is very underrated, because the advances were very small, but, if we take a closer look, these advances were very impressive, considering that the battles were fought on the highest mountains of europe, with harsh temperature during the winter, and with very few resources. Honor and respect for all the soldiers that lost their life for their Fatherland.
in realtà le grandi battaglie della Prima Guerra sono state in pianura, Caporetto è a 230 metri sul livello del mare, Vittorio Veneto a poco più di 100, l'altopiano della Bainsizza è a quota 600 metri, quasi tutte le grandi battaglie dell'Italia avvennero sull'Isonzo, in valle. Battaglie sulle montagne ne sono state fatte poche, a 2000 metri credo manco mezza.
One thing that is not often tought about when talking about the 12 battles of isonzo is that most of them resulted in italian strategic victories. After the 11th battle the italians were one action away from taking Trieste, and most historians believe taking trieste would have made austria pull out early from the war, and without austria to protect germany from a 2 front war, ww1 could have ended much earlier. This could even have delayed the russian revolution (wich at this point was almost inevitabile). Now say what you want about Cadorna, he totally was a bad general overall, but 12 battles to win ww1 doesn’t seem that big of a deal in comparison with the western front
My great grand father was an Ardito. The commanders literally gave liters of grappa before making an assault to the next trenches. He literally saw the Piave river red in blood. Edit: typo
i live near piave and I have to tell you something that few people know, have you ever wondered why the song says "il piave mormorò non passa lo straniero?" literally "the Piave murmured does not the stranger pass?", well because those days the Piave overflowed and the Austrians couldn't get through (obviously we Italians shot them while we didn't scratch our balls) but this alliance between nature and the army saved us from having to speak German forever W l'italia!!!
Il padre di mio nonno fu un Ardito,2 battaglione e fu ovviamente presente alle varie battaglie del monte Grappa,mio nonno disse che un giorno un capitano avrebbe perso la ragione mandando il suo battaglione ben 12 volte in un giorno all arma bianca…alla 13esima presero questo capitano e letteralmente lo buttarono di sotto.
i will not say "our commanders were stupid", "our commanders took stupid decisions" or similar stuff because those were different times and im surely not the person who can say those things but there is another thing i can say as an italian: We will not forget our soldiers, who fought for our territory and us 🇮🇹🫡
@@saladcat8305 Italy joined the war in 1915, while the war started in 1914, and we entered against our "main"/"first" alliance (Germany and Austria). Also, italians had different opinions and in fact Italy joined the war while there was almost a civil war inside the borders, so this "got charmed" looks pretty weird. Anyway, my comment is pretty focused on the decision that today, with our new way to think, seems stupid and maybe they really are (like our commander Cadorna who sent thousands of men for 12 times against the Austro-Hungaric Empire) and to remember and honour our soldiers who desperately fought to give us the lands we have today.
We have to remember, that this new war was a military shock for everyone, including commanders. In the beginning they still tried using reliable tactics that worked in the past, only to find out they're outdated for modern warfare with tanks, machine guns and much more fearsome artillery - but, contrary to what we believe, they learned from their mistakes. Yes, in 1914 commanders didn't make the brightest of decisions, but in 1917-1918 they most certainly did.
Wow, someone that is smart and humble enough, with enough perspective to not blame "stupid" commanders right away, like so many people do when talking about WW1. You sir, is a rare thing on the internet.
@@Admiral45-10 That's wasn't that much the case, at least not as much as people believe. They were very much aware of the advancement in weapons (they were the one who funded them) Armies between the end of the 19th century and 1914 evolved a lot. They observed conflicts like Balkan wars of 1910s or the Russo-Japanese war of 1904. They saw how effective machine guns were and how entrenchment will be highly important against the new artillery. There were some bad high ranked commanders of course, like all armies that almost didn't fought for 50 years have, but they usually didn't lasted long. It's not because there was a lot of death that the strategies and doctrines were bad or outdated. They just went all in directly, with massive violence and fire power, to win quickly, as they tried to avoid trench warfare, which they knew would be inevitable after few months. They were in the exact same position we would be if WW3 broke out tomorrow. We know space and cyber theather will be important, how insanely efficients drones can be. We observed Ukraine or Amerinia/Azerbaijan conflicts. Our armies went a lot of reform and changes since WW2 or even the Cold War. But in war, nothing survive contact with the enemy, especially plans and doctrines. So like in 1914, would definitely learn a lot after 1 or 2 months of conflicts.
Not so fun fact: during the alpine war both sides would rig scree piles (those piles of rocks under mountains) with explosives, so if the enemy broke through, they could bury them alive in a landslide. The open nature of the mountains also exposed Italians especially to fire like flies on a wall.
my great grandfather fought on schnapps and came back. he never told anyone about what happened. but I know that when he returned with his children he began to cry. E ricordatevi, il Piave mormorava calmo e placido al passaggio dei primi fanti il 24 maggio.
Meanwhile, on the Italian Front: "How many up to now?" "It's the 6th time it failed... Maybe let's try it 6 more times... Maybe it'll work..." "Ok. AVANTI SAVOIA!!!" *charges again*
The common ww1 stereotype is that generals in the rear, went "Oh, that first wave was mowed down by a storm of machine gun fire, better send in another 8 just to make sure the line isn't budging" Isonzo was that but unironically.
Very good! expecially 'cause you didn't talk about some false myths about the italian army (like the incompetence of Gen. Cadorna or the decimation) If you want to make a part 2 you can talk about the important role played by the Italian Navy!
@@Bolognabeef 11 battaglie che servirono a mantenere i rapporti di forze stabili e a togliere pressione sul fronte orientale. Ricordo che Cadorna era il primo a dire che quella che gli era stata chiesto di combattere era una guerra infame, in un fronte che non poteva consentire le grandi manovre attuabili per contro in Francia o in Russia. Purtroppo quando diamo a Cadorna dell'incompetente o del carnefice (e anche io in passato l'ho fatto, sia chiaro) altro non facciamo che ripetere quanto scritto da Mussolini e Farinacci dopo la guerra (vedasi ad esempio "Una nota ufficiosa su Cadorna", pubblicata il 18 maggio 1923). Ribadisco: so bene che l'idea collettiva sia difficile da smuovere ma Cadorna, nonostante avesse dei difetti, era un generale validissimo e se l'esercito Austro-Tedesco arrivò al Piave mezzo sbandato nonostante Caporetto lo dobbiamo anche a lui, così come dobbiamo a lui la fortificazione della linea Grappa-Piave sin dai primi mesi del 1917, indispensabile per la resistenza e la successiva vittoria
@@matteofornoli5452 ma che c'entra, a parte che non ha funzionato perché la Russia è collassata comunque, ma il punto è: poteva conseguire questi obiettivi con altri metodi piuttosto che mandare a morire uomini in ondate suicide l'una dopo l'altra, per 11 battaglie di fila? Poi belli i rapporti di forze stabili se la prima offensiva che ci fanno (Caporetto) tra un po' arrivavano a Roma. Vorrei fossi stato tu un soldato di Cadorna poi vediamo se penseresti le stesse cose...
The fact that we had 11 battles of the Isonzo was due to that being the only relativity low altitude terrain. The rest of the front was high in the Alps and not suitable for large scale offensives. Besides the Italian Army was weakear than the Austro-Hungarian one in terms of equipment, weapons, training and tactics. It was war of attrition like in the Western front. With the 11th battle of the Isonzo Austria was worried they couldn't contain another Italian offensive so they asked for German help. Russia was out of the war by then so more Central Powers troops and resources were available for the offensive and breakthrough at Caporetto.
My great great grandfather fought in the war at Caporetto even if he was In the Bersaglieri and mainly delivered orders with his bike but he still got a medal "cavaliere di Savoia"
as someone whose ancestors fought in this war, i can only express sadness at the current state of my dear Italy. With faith in God Italy will stand up once again. W l'Italia
@@AryanJJ right now? NATO and EU dismantled, the fake allies and traitors of Italy exposed. In general? Communism to forget hunger and greed, stop crime and war, change competitive mechanisms into cooperative ones while keeping competition and violence just as part of games now, at the dawn of automation, AI and circular economy that make most human work and the concept of waste obsolete, to evolve mankind also with the latest resarch on longevity and not just the greatest thieves and environmental ravagers, and to explore space with much more efficacy than a single Country with it's dedicated budget in competition to others could ever do.
An elderly woman I knew from a village close to the frontline, told that war for her meant lots of uniforms soaked with rotten corpses stink that she and other girls had to repair before sending them to supply recruits. "you have not seen the mud, the shit and the blood! Old Pigs, go to see the mud, the shit and the blood, then you'll be able to talk, if you still feel like!" Beppe Fenoglio
Three my grandfathers fought in this war. It was terrible and for our point of view now maybe wrong, but I think we should respect and honour all these people who fought and died in the Great War
2:42 This one would be pretty rare, considering that the Italian front was basically the only one where the Czechs held firm and were not tempted to switch sides.
As an Italian and also as a WW1 nerd I appreciate all the research you've done here, dziękuję. What country will be the next? Ps: the wojaks's uniforms are cool af.
The real betrayal was Italy being in an alliance with Austria against France, considering that France helped their liberation against Austrian occupation. Good thing Italian government never really went through with it.
@@mrsupremegascon i mean, although it makes sense what you say, they shouldnt have joined the alliance in the first place. Because of that they are remembered as mere side switchers
Far from it, the Brusilov offensive began because Hotzendorf pulled away troops for the Asiago offensive because he got mad that the Germans did not inform him about the Verdun offensive. Anyway Russia literally lost WWI despite being on the side of the entente so you are in no place to mock Italians in this instance.
Italian officer: CHARGE Italian soldier: is this gonna work or will this be a waste of time 1st battle of isonzo: Italian soldier: ok this is not going the best 6th and 7th battles of isonzo: Ok we got some success not bad At 11th battle of isonzo Italian soldier: oh my god this is not funny Luigi when can we stop At 12th battle of isonzo Italian soldier: I swear I’ll use my bayonet on Luigi At the battle of monte grappa Italian soldier: O LA VITTORIA O TUTTI O ACOPATTi
potevi mettere la battaglia sul monte pasubio che fa Su la strada del monte Pasubio - Bom borombom... lenta sale una lunga colonna: - Bom borombom... l'è la marcia de chi non torna, de chi se ferma a morir lassù. Ma gli alpini non hanno paura -Bom borombom... (2v.) Su la cima del monte Pasubio, soto i denti ghe ze ‘na miniera: ze i Alpini che scava e spera de ritornare a trovar l'amor. Su la strada del monte Pasubio ze rimasta soltanto ‘na crose; no se sente ma' più ‘na vose ma solo el vento che basa i fior.
Sul Monte Grappa ci sta la ricciolina Sul Monte Grappa ci sta la ricciolina Sul Monte Grappa ci sta la ricciolina Che fa l'amore col bersaglier Che fa l'amore col bersaglier O ricciolina, tu sei la mia morosa O ricciolina, tu sei la mia morosa O ricciolina, tu sei la mia morosa Sei la morosa del bersaglier Sei la morosa del bersaglier O bersagliere, cammina un po' più piano O bersagliere, cammina un po' più piano O bersagliere, cammina un po' più piano Se no la mamma ci sentirà Se no la mamma ci sentirà Se la ci sente, non ci fa andare in camera Se la ci sente, non ci fa andare in camera Se la ci sente, non ci fa andare in camera Così l'amore non si può far Così l'amore non si può far Il bersagliere la bacia e poi va via Il bersagliere la bacia e poi va via Il bersagliere la bacia e poi va via La fanteria la sposerà La fanteria la sposerà
my dad told me the stories of my great grandpa, and battles in monte grappa would go something like this: officer: 1st battallion, charge! 1st battallion: gets mowed down by austrian machine gun positions uphill officer: 2nd battallion, charge! 2nd battallion: suffers the same fate a the 1st officer: 3rd battallion, charge! 3rd battallion: suffers the same fate as the other officer: hmm, after having exhausted nearly 500 lives for nothing, i think this won't work, instead let's try this. artillery squad! fire! austrian position: gets destroyed by the artillery italians: can finally take their hard fought 15 meters of land
To be fair the many battles on the Isonzo were similar to the endless offensives that other countries launched on many fronts without any breakthrough. They weren’t launched always in the same area but on different points of the front. Any away, respect to the soldiers that bravely fought these battles.
@@hansemmen3862 my funny german friend, your country lost 2 world wars and most of its territory. Look at a pre ww2 map of germany. Next time don’t follow mad austrians with bad painting skills.
@@hansemmen3862 sorry but wasn't it in germany that the police thwarted a coup d'état by far-right militants with ex-army members involved this December? Also it seems to me that neo-Nazis are gaining a lot of support in Germany. Who would be the ones who learned from their defeats?
@@hansemmen3862 try sincerely next time (😂🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪)
@@pietrocecconi3215 Isn't this the entirety of the world? Devision and far right groups gaining more and more traction? Also at least they stopped the "coup" (more like wannabe), you saound like you didn't like that. Italy unfortunately has had a high level of right wing support within their political field and unlike most countries in WW2, Germany has done their utmost to never repeat their mistakes. Very much reflected in how it is taught in school, showing how aweful it was, while other countries simply paint a black and white picture.
Choosing between the two, I'd rather live in germany.
The sad reality is that due to the current turmoil, nationalists and their substitutes are gaining power around the world, riling up the people by blaming the goverments for the situation were in, while suggesting that the issue comes from a certain group of people rather than an actual problem within the system or without suggesting a humane solution for that problem in the system.
@@hansemmen3862 you also have six millions Jews under your belt so I wouldn't brag about it
Average Verdun Fan vs Average Isonzo Enjoyer
Meanwhile OMZ: Average Tannenberg Enjoyers
@@organizacjamemowzjednoczonychAverage Yemen hater(my Bosnian Great Grandpa was a soldier in that forgotten front)
I went to monte grappa I swear it was beautiful and fun
Epilogue: You decide to take the city of Fiume by force
no decidi di prendere litalia
Great choice of songs. The musical tradition of the Alpini and of the Italian Alps in general has a profound connection to WWI. Dozens of chants and songs about every peak and mountain they fought for, and the struggle and death of thousand of young men. It clashes with the upbeat marches and propagandistic songs that the Italian Army is well known for.
Im subscribe
arent "Ricciolina" and "Vincere vincere vincere" WWII songs??
Sul cappello sul cappello che noi portiamo, c'è una lunga c'è una lunga penna nera, che a noi serve che a noi serve da bandiera, su pei monti su pei monti a guerreggiar
oilà là
OOILA LÀ
Thanks for mentioning the Czechoslovak legion, my grandpa was there, he was from Domažlice and his name was Josef Fronk. He was 18 years old in 1917 when he got drafted into the Austro-Hungarian army, he got put into the Landwehrinfanterieregiment Nr. 7 which fought on the Russian front. But by the time he was done the regiment had transfered over to the Italian front, just in time to defend against the Italian offensive - The 11th Battle of Isonzo. 4 days into the offensive on August 22nd 1917 when the Italians crossed the river he surrendered to Italian forces in the little town of Deskle (in todays Slovenia), it is located very close to the Sabotino mountain. He then spent almost a year in a prisoner camp that is as of now unknown to me. On the 12th of July 1918 he joined the Czechoslovak Legion, into the 31. pěší pluk. He fought all the way to the end and even tho he did get wounded a couple of times, he survived the war. After he came home he served in the new established armed forces and then joined the Financial Guard in 1921. From what I know he never spoke about the war and hated having to think about it. He died peacefully in 1978.
@officialcupcakepitbull15 no, why?
@@smrzolin3064 pfff, H*tler joke I guess
@@smrzolin3064troppo dolore, troppa sofferenza da rivivere immagino, mio nonno fu Cavaliere di Vittorio Veneto come tanti altri reduci ma tra i fratelli ne perse uno sulle Alpi nel '17, era nel mitico corpo dei Bersaglieri. Quanti commilitoni, tra cui compaesani e amici morti, ricordare è doloroso e parlarne ancora più doloroso. In Italia abbiamo avuto un grande poeta come Ungaretti che ha scritto delle bellissime poesie sulla guerra che combatté, ed Emilio Lussu grande politico sardo ci ha lasciato un bellissimo romanzo autobiografico su quegli eventi "Un anno sull'altipiano", per elencare solo due ma anche altri ci hanno lasciato narrazioni, in prima persona, vivide e dolorosissime. 🖤
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Austria-Hungary: WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!
Italy, after the 11th battle of the Isonzo: I'll f*ckin do it again!
@@hansemmen3862 we ain't insane, we're passionate
@@hansemmen3862 nah, I'm gonna devour a chocolate bar, get wasted and fall asleep
@@hansemmen3862 wait, you greek? Aw hell nah, bro is walking into an oil drinking contest
@@hansemmen3862 a jerry using a greek flag against an italian. I guess beer and sausages don't help developing a brain
@@Momo_Kawashima "nha, im gonna devour a Chocolate bar, get wasted and fall asleep"
Absolute Fucking Power move😂
My great great grandfather fought for Italy, he was from Veneto and survived the war.
Mine as well, from the province of Siena. He didn't survive though 😞
Quanto bestemmia ogni giorno
My fought in the battles of Vicenza and Roana
Some people says ''my grandpa survived the war'' or ''my grandpa survived battle of veneto'' Is battle of Veneto (I dont know am I wrting the battle name correct) really huge battle?
@@mustafaaydnkarayel4768 one of the most relevant of wwI. It ended with strategic defeat of austrian and collapse of their army
So, a little fun story about my great-grandfather who fought in WWI in Veneto and got sent to the front in his late 30s towards the end of the war (when they had gone through most of the youth available at the time) he got shot in the chest and left momentairly for dead by his comrades only to wake up hours later and find out that the bullet had gone through from one side to the other without any major damage.
He managed to see the end of the war and decades later in the late 70s when conducting some radio exams the doctors discovered that the lung hit by the bullet had collapsed some 50 years prior but no one including him had realized it until that day.
He died shortly after in his late 80s.
Edit: so, given the likes I felt the need to double check this story I've been told as a kid and here are the facts, he was born in 1876, was called in 1916 at age 39 (would be 40 later that year) in the _245° Battaglione Milizia Territoriale_ and actually died in 1965 (not in the 70s) at age 88.
We still have the papers from WWI for my great grandfather (Piave, ecc) and WWII papers of my grandfather (Africa, Greece, Albania).
I'm gonna leave the original comment above as originally posted.
nanomachines, son.
@@birisi916 ...I always suspected it 🤔
@@birisi916 Standing here I realize
My great-grandfather fought in WWI too. Born in 1897 and passed away in 1979.
When I was a kid, I was used to wear my Alpini’s hat (given by my grandfather, who was one of them) and my other grandfather (son of this my great grandfather) has a picture of me making the military salute 🫡 in front of his father's gravestone while wearing my Alpini’s hat
@@jacopoliviero2160 incredible how many of those who survived managed to live to their mid 80s if not more
I love how military grades and uniforms change love from Italy ❤🇮🇹
My great grandfather was from Cadore, an area bordering Austria, so he fought in the Dolomites at over 2000 m with ice and cold. He also fought in the Battle of Vittorio Veneto. He survived and he transmitted a lot of Alpini songs to my grandfather who sometimes, at 89, sings them to us. I also learned many of this songs
Montepiana di Cadore? Appena stato, impressionante e terrificante allo stesso tempo, trincee con postazioni di mitragliatrici puntate ai nemici a circa 60m, circondati da ghiaccio, fango e sangue...
Ora vivi ancora da quelle parti? Vorrei andarci in vacanza per vedere i residui della guerra...
The victory with the crossing of the piave river deserves a Hollywood movie. They came out of the water at the same time at the first light of sunrise to attack the Austrians guarding the waters on top of them. It was the Sardinian Brigade not the alpines in that battle. The Austrians called them red demons and "dimonios"/"demons" is still their anthem.
Loro gli chiamano demoni ma io gli chiamo eroi 🇮🇹♥️👑
Il piave mormorò, non passa lo straniero! 🇮🇹❤️
👏👏👏🥳🥳🥳🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
LUNGA VITA AI SAVOIAAAA
IL PIAVE MORMORÒ
NON PASSA LO STRANIERO
Ma in una notte triste si parlò di tradimento
E il piace ne udiva l'ira e lo sgomento
@@The.random.guy.on.the.internet Ahi, quanta gente ha vista venir giù, lasciare il tetto
Poiché il nemico irruppe a Caporetto
My great great grandfather fought in WW1 and died on Monte Grappa during the battle of Vittorio Veneto. Rest In Peace 🇮🇹❤
Il mio Bisnonno è Cavaliere di Vittorio Veneto. Onore a tutti i soldati e ai caduti per la loro Patria!
My great great grandfather fought along them at the isonzo, nothing but pride! 🇨🇵🇮🇹
🇮🇹❤
I really like how the songs match the soldiers. Great job.
Per la battaglia del Piave ci sarebbe stato bene una versione gigachad di Armando Diaz
Italy is a country where i will always respect the WW1 veterans, there balls weighed on the Alps, and did it all for there love for Italy and kingdom and families. Avanti Savoia!
The funniest thing is that we didn't even speak the same language, but we had around 28 different languages, so the soldiers didn't understand each other. They only knew that when they shouted "Avanti Savoia" they had to run out of the trench.
@@antoniodecarli2851 Nell'esercito tutti dovevano parlare italiano, imparavi
@@NoName-hg6ccin realtà,dato che erano da diverse parti d'italia dovevano impararr una sola lingua per capirsi
@@redzepoloman4670 Appunto, imparavi l'italiano
infatti l'italiano per come lo conosciamo oggi è proprio un miscuglio tra tutti i dialetti parlati proprio dai soldati perchè se ti vuoi appigliare al vero italiano dovrebbe essere il volgare fiorentino@@NoName-hg6cc
Most underrated aspect of WW1
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Il fronte italiano è molto sottovalutato, a causa delle scarse avanzate da parte degli eserciti, ma se ci facciamo caso, sono impressionanti, considerando che le battaglie venivano combattute quasi sempre sui monti, a 2000 metri di altezza, con un freddo pesante in inverno, e con poche risorse.
Onore a tutti coloro che hanno perso la vita per la loro Patria
English:
The italian front is very underrated, because the advances were very small, but, if we take a closer look, these advances were very impressive, considering that the battles were fought on the highest mountains of europe, with harsh temperature during the winter, and with very few resources.
Honor and respect for all the soldiers that lost their life for their Fatherland.
in realtà le grandi battaglie della Prima Guerra sono state in pianura, Caporetto è a 230 metri sul livello del mare, Vittorio Veneto a poco più di 100, l'altopiano della Bainsizza è a quota 600 metri, quasi tutte le grandi battaglie dell'Italia avvennero sull'Isonzo, in valle. Battaglie sulle montagne ne sono state fatte poche, a 2000 metri credo manco mezza.
Love Polska, from Włochy 🇮🇹🇵🇱
One thing that is not often tought about when talking about the 12 battles of isonzo is that most of them resulted in italian strategic victories. After the 11th battle the italians were one action away from taking Trieste, and most historians believe taking trieste would have made austria pull out early from the war, and without austria to protect germany from a 2 front war, ww1 could have ended much earlier. This could even have delayed the russian revolution (wich at this point was almost inevitabile). Now say what you want about Cadorna, he totally was a bad general overall, but 12 battles to win ww1 doesn’t seem that big of a deal in comparison with the western front
Rispetto a tutti i soldati di tutti i fronti e paesi, morti per gli interessi di pochi a sfavore dei molti❤🇮🇹
Il Piave mormorò indietro va straniero! E indietreggiò il nemico fino a Trieste fino a Trento! E la vittoria sciolse le ali al vento! ❤🇮🇹
I don't know if u are italian or not but I'm happy when I see someone recognize the true valor of this songd
@@idonthaveenoughimagination429 thank you brother, yes I'm Italian and also a patriot! 🇮🇹❤️
My great grand father was an Ardito. The commanders literally gave liters of grappa before making an assault to the next trenches.
He literally saw the Piave river red in blood.
Edit: typo
Piume baciatemi
La guancia ardente
Un bacio un fremito
In cuor si sente
Piume reditemi
Gloria Di soni e canti
Compagni a vincere
Avanti! Avanti!
"BASTA! CON QUESTA GUERRA DI MORTI DI FAME, CONTRO ALTRI MORTI DI FAME!"
Un Anno Sull'Altopiano - Emilio Lussu
Mi ricordo di questa frase lo sentita sù un film che non mi ricordo il nome ma ricordo che è ambientato nel monte fior.😅
@@liberasempre550 è una frase pronunciata dal tenente Ottolenghi in Uomini Contro di Francesco Rosi, film del 1970 tratto dal romanzo di Lussu
I love how they represented different corps, different units of the Italian Royal Army.
Its like that one mission in a hard game you set on hard difficulty
There needs to be a pov for "You occupy Innsbruck and get into a fight with drunk locals"
Its pretty impressive Cadorni didnt get sacked after 12 battles of the same river over and over again
i live near piave and I have to tell you something that few people know, have you ever wondered why the song says "il piave mormorò non passa lo straniero?" literally "the Piave murmured does not the stranger pass?",
well because those days the Piave overflowed and the Austrians couldn't get through (obviously we Italians shot them while we didn't scratch our balls) but this alliance between nature and the army saved us from having to speak German forever
W l'italia!!!
Il padre di mio nonno fu un Ardito,2 battaglione e fu ovviamente presente alle varie battaglie del monte Grappa,mio nonno disse che un giorno un capitano avrebbe perso la ragione mandando il suo battaglione ben 12 volte in un giorno all arma bianca…alla 13esima presero questo capitano e letteralmente lo buttarono di sotto.
O LA VITTORIA, O TUTTI ACCOPPATI
O IL PIAVE! O TUTTI ACCOPPATI!!!!!! Avanti!
I miei bisnonni🇮🇹,onore alla grande mia nazione🇮🇹
i will not say "our commanders were stupid", "our commanders took stupid decisions" or similar stuff because those were different times and im surely not the person who can say those things but there is another thing i can say as an italian:
We will not forget our soldiers, who fought for our territory and us 🇮🇹🫡
The Italians got charmed by the Entente to join the war so Idk what you mean
@@saladcat8305 Italy joined the war in 1915, while the war started in 1914, and we entered against our "main"/"first" alliance (Germany and Austria).
Also, italians had different opinions and in fact Italy joined the war while there was almost a civil war inside the borders, so this "got charmed" looks pretty weird.
Anyway, my comment is pretty focused on the decision that today, with our new way to think, seems stupid and maybe they really are (like our commander Cadorna who sent thousands of men for 12 times against the Austro-Hungaric Empire) and to remember and honour our soldiers who desperately fought to give us the lands we have today.
We have to remember, that this new war was a military shock for everyone, including commanders. In the beginning they still tried using reliable tactics that worked in the past, only to find out they're outdated for modern warfare with tanks, machine guns and much more fearsome artillery - but, contrary to what we believe, they learned from their mistakes. Yes, in 1914 commanders didn't make the brightest of decisions, but in 1917-1918 they most certainly did.
Wow, someone that is smart and humble enough, with enough perspective to not blame "stupid" commanders right away, like so many people do when talking about WW1.
You sir, is a rare thing on the internet.
@@Admiral45-10
That's wasn't that much the case, at least not as much as people believe.
They were very much aware of the advancement in weapons (they were the one who funded them)
Armies between the end of the 19th century and 1914 evolved a lot. They observed conflicts like Balkan wars of 1910s or the Russo-Japanese war of 1904. They saw how effective machine guns were and how entrenchment will be highly important against the new artillery.
There were some bad high ranked commanders of course, like all armies that almost didn't fought for 50 years have, but they usually didn't lasted long.
It's not because there was a lot of death that the strategies and doctrines were bad or outdated. They just went all in directly, with massive violence and fire power, to win quickly, as they tried to avoid trench warfare, which they knew would be inevitable after few months.
They were in the exact same position we would be if WW3 broke out tomorrow. We know space and cyber theather will be important, how insanely efficients drones can be. We observed Ukraine or Amerinia/Azerbaijan conflicts. Our armies went a lot of reform and changes since WW2 or even the Cold War.
But in war, nothing survive contact with the enemy, especially plans and doctrines. So like in 1914, would definitely learn a lot after 1 or 2 months of conflicts.
Not so fun fact: during the alpine war both sides would rig scree piles (those piles of rocks under mountains) with explosives, so if the enemy broke through, they could bury them alive in a landslide. The open nature of the mountains also exposed Italians especially to fire like flies on a wall.
They'd also deliberately shoot at snow or aim artillery at rocks, for the exact same reason.
my great grandfather fought on schnapps and came back. he never told anyone about what happened. but I know that when he returned with his children he began to cry. E ricordatevi, il Piave mormorava calmo e placido al passaggio dei primi fanti il 24 maggio.
A NOI ! Signori miei… FORZA ITALIA SEMPRE ♥️🇮🇹
Meanwhile in the Western Front:
“What battle is this? Where the fuck are we fighting? How many have died?”
“After a million I lost count”
,,Where is the rest of the platoon?"
,,You're sitting on it"
Meanwhile, on the Italian Front:
"How many up to now?"
"It's the 6th time it failed... Maybe let's try it 6 more times... Maybe it'll work..."
"Ok. AVANTI SAVOIA!!!" *charges again*
As someone who played BF1 I can feel their pain of having to push a single area over and over again
Try Tannenberg and Verdun, way better experience
@@organizacjamemowzjednoczonychi like isonzo more
The common ww1 stereotype is that generals in the rear, went "Oh, that first wave was mowed down by a storm of machine gun fire, better send in another 8 just to make sure the line isn't budging"
Isonzo was that but unironically.
Il canto dalle amate sponde, e il nemico al ripudiar dell' onde, un presagio dolce e lusinghiero, IL PIAVE COMANDÒ: "INDIETRO LO STRANIERO*
Very good! expecially 'cause you didn't talk about some false myths about the italian army (like the incompetence of Gen. Cadorna or the decimation) If you want to make a part 2 you can talk about the important role played by the Italian Navy!
Se 11 battaglie uguali ed in stile napoleonico non dimostrano l'incompetenza di Cadorna allora siamo tutti Giulio Cesare
@@Bolognabeef veramente
Are those myths??
@@Bolognabeef 11 battaglie che servirono a mantenere i rapporti di forze stabili e a togliere pressione sul fronte orientale. Ricordo che Cadorna era il primo a dire che quella che gli era stata chiesto di combattere era una guerra infame, in un fronte che non poteva consentire le grandi manovre attuabili per contro in Francia o in Russia.
Purtroppo quando diamo a Cadorna dell'incompetente o del carnefice (e anche io in passato l'ho fatto, sia chiaro) altro non facciamo che ripetere quanto scritto da Mussolini e Farinacci dopo la guerra (vedasi ad esempio "Una nota ufficiosa su Cadorna", pubblicata il 18 maggio 1923).
Ribadisco: so bene che l'idea collettiva sia difficile da smuovere ma Cadorna, nonostante avesse dei difetti, era un generale validissimo e se l'esercito Austro-Tedesco arrivò al Piave mezzo sbandato nonostante Caporetto lo dobbiamo anche a lui, così come dobbiamo a lui la fortificazione della linea Grappa-Piave sin dai primi mesi del 1917, indispensabile per la resistenza e la successiva vittoria
@@matteofornoli5452 ma che c'entra, a parte che non ha funzionato perché la Russia è collassata comunque, ma il punto è: poteva conseguire questi obiettivi con altri metodi piuttosto che mandare a morire uomini in ondate suicide l'una dopo l'altra, per 11 battaglie di fila? Poi belli i rapporti di forze stabili se la prima offensiva che ci fanno (Caporetto) tra un po' arrivavano a Roma. Vorrei fossi stato tu un soldato di Cadorna poi vediamo se penseresti le stesse cose...
Fun fact: in the 8th time he said the truth, cadorna was the most severe general in all ww1 and he sees every soldier like a kamikaze
very nice video as always keep up this good work, may i suggest to do bulgaria next in ww1
You forgot: you are the 1 on 10 soldier chosen for decimation
Battle of gorizia is the 6th battle of the isonzo
Good ending
the part where it says this isn't funny anymore is the best part
No disse il Piave, No dissero i fanti, mai più il nemico faccia un passo avanti! ❤️🇮🇹
Il piave comandò, indietro va' straniero!❤️🇮🇹
Avanti Savoia! Onore ai caduti..
My great grandpa always used to say:"The 12th's the good one"
The front that almost nobody talks or knows about
Impressive that the Wojak survived all that xD
The fact that we had 11 battles of the Isonzo was due to that being the only relativity low altitude terrain. The rest of the front was high in the Alps and not suitable for large scale offensives. Besides the Italian Army was weakear than the Austro-Hungarian one in terms of equipment, weapons, training and tactics. It was war of attrition like in the Western front. With the 11th battle of the Isonzo Austria was worried they couldn't contain another Italian offensive so they asked for German help. Russia was out of the war by then so more Central Powers troops and resources were available for the offensive and breakthrough at Caporetto.
>be me: italy during ww1
>send soldiers to die on the isonzo 12 times
>lose every time
>still win by association with the entente
ok
Il mio trisnonno fu L’unico del suo plotone ad essere sopravvissuto, AVANTI SAVOIA! Onore ai caduti
My great great grandfather fought in the war at Caporetto even if he was In the Bersaglieri and mainly delivered orders with his bike but he still got a medal "cavaliere di Savoia"
Ngl I love the Italian ww1 anthem
nice video, good choice for the songs mostly of the alpini. thanks
Immaginarli cantare per tenere alto il morale e nel frattempo non sapere se sarebbero mai tornato a casa, mette i brivi
_*Gonna be one of those guys._
*Where would I aquire those sprites good sir?*
YES SIR BOYS, WE HAVE TWO countrys ON OUR SIDES!
-italy
Perfect choice of music
as someone whose ancestors fought in this war, i can only express sadness at the current state of my dear Italy. With faith in God Italy will stand up once again. W l'Italia
Polish when Italians say that: Ah shit, here we go again
@@organizacjamemowzjednoczonych for real, from that pulpit? Go trigger a real world war in this decade, go.
Love to Italy from America. 🇺🇲❤️🇮🇹
@@OniGarro what do you want
@@AryanJJ right now? NATO and EU dismantled, the fake allies and traitors of Italy exposed.
In general? Communism to forget hunger and greed, stop crime and war, change competitive mechanisms into cooperative ones while keeping competition and violence just as part of games now, at the dawn of automation, AI and circular economy that make most human work and the concept of waste obsolete, to evolve mankind also with the latest resarch on longevity and not just the greatest thieves and environmental ravagers, and to explore space with much more efficacy than a single Country with it's dedicated budget in competition to others could ever do.
Siamo italiani, popolo
Superiore a
Tutti
🇮🇹 eu amo Itália ❤
Italy AI sending 12 assaults on Isonzo.
An elderly woman I knew from a village close to the frontline, told that war for her meant lots of uniforms soaked with rotten corpses stink that she and other girls had to repair before sending them to supply recruits.
"you have not seen the mud, the shit and the blood! Old Pigs, go to see the mud, the shit and the blood, then you'll be able to talk, if you still feel like!" Beppe Fenoglio
Three my grandfathers fought in this war. It was terrible and for our point of view now maybe wrong, but I think we should respect and honour all these people who fought and died in the Great War
At 1:48 Pugnal fra i denti, e bombe a mano!
I know it might sound crazy but what's even more crazier is that western front moved even less and loss more men over there
2:42 This one would be pretty rare, considering that the Italian front was basically the only one where the Czechs held firm and were not tempted to switch sides.
Still quite a large number tbh
As an Italian and also as a WW1 nerd I appreciate all the research you've done here, dziękuję.
What country will be the next?
Ps: the wojaks's uniforms are cool af.
Thank you!
Maybe the US or one of the Balkan countries
@@hansemmen3862 Bruh go cry somewhere else🤣
@@hansemmen3862 ah, like Germany!
_..wait._
Viva l'Italia!
Saluti dalla Marina.
WW1, bonus endurance round
tempi di gloria 😢
POV: You´re betraying your colleagues and steal land
I meeeeeeeaaaaan technicallllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy they switched sides before fightinghgggggggggggg
The real betrayal was Italy being in an alliance with Austria against France, considering that France helped their liberation against Austrian occupation.
Good thing Italian government never really went through with it.
@@mrsupremegascon i mean, although it makes sense what you say, they shouldnt have joined the alliance in the first place. Because of that they are remembered as mere side switchers
Nulla da togliere alle altre, ma sul cappello è la migliore
И вот из-за этих гениев нам пришлось Брусиловский прорыв начать раньше.
Far from it, the Brusilov offensive began because Hotzendorf pulled away troops for the Asiago offensive because he got mad that the Germans did not inform him about the Verdun offensive. Anyway Russia literally lost WWI despite being on the side of the entente so you are in no place to mock Italians in this instance.
Wonder how long until Italy just said "FUCK ISONZO!" and then WW2 Happens.
Giornata più normale con i bro
Isonzo gameplay in a nutshell.
Bel video bro
Finaly they understand the paint and dont just rub it on our face and laught about it
Porterò sempre rispetto per tutti coloro che hanno combattuto per l'Italia ❤
You can still visit the fallen at the "sacrario militare del grappa"It also includes trenches and a bar and museum.
Maybe this time i will
win. 11 battles later "ok this Is unluck"
SU IL CAPPELLO!!
ITALIAN PEOPLE NEVER GIVE UP!!!!!
Italian officer: CHARGE
Italian soldier: is this gonna work or will this be a waste of time
1st battle of isonzo:
Italian soldier: ok this is not going the best
6th and 7th battles of isonzo:
Ok we got some success not bad
At 11th battle of isonzo
Italian soldier: oh my god this is not funny Luigi when can we stop
At 12th battle of isonzo
Italian soldier: I swear I’ll use my bayonet on Luigi
At the battle of monte grappa
Italian soldier: O LA VITTORIA O TUTTI O ACOPATTi
My God, you can't even make an actually funny meme. Show some respect for the fallen, little child.
as a slovinian i cn say that on the soška fronta we holded this wierd Italians of but at a heavy cost soča was litleraly red
Riprendiamoci Caporetto!
Make me smile because today ia the italian mational fest
E IL PIAVE MORMORÒ! È passato lo straniero...
Few years later: *Mussolini breaks in *
Gladly
potevi mettere la battaglia sul monte pasubio che fa
Su la strada del monte Pasubio
- Bom borombom...
lenta sale una lunga colonna:
- Bom borombom...
l'è la marcia de chi non torna,
de chi se ferma a morir lassù.
Ma gli alpini non hanno paura
-Bom borombom... (2v.)
Su la cima del monte Pasubio,
soto i denti ghe ze ‘na miniera:
ze i Alpini che scava e spera
de ritornare a trovar l'amor.
Su la strada del monte Pasubio
ze rimasta soltanto ‘na crose;
no se sente ma' più ‘na vose
ma solo el vento che basa i fior.
Sul Cappello:🗿🍷
THE soldier
Sul Monte Grappa ci sta la ricciolina
Sul Monte Grappa ci sta la ricciolina
Sul Monte Grappa ci sta la ricciolina
Che fa l'amore col bersaglier
Che fa l'amore col bersaglier
O ricciolina, tu sei la mia morosa
O ricciolina, tu sei la mia morosa
O ricciolina, tu sei la mia morosa
Sei la morosa del bersaglier
Sei la morosa del bersaglier
O bersagliere, cammina un po' più piano
O bersagliere, cammina un po' più piano
O bersagliere, cammina un po' più piano
Se no la mamma ci sentirà
Se no la mamma ci sentirà
Se la ci sente, non ci fa andare in camera
Se la ci sente, non ci fa andare in camera
Se la ci sente, non ci fa andare in camera
Così l'amore non si può far
Così l'amore non si può far
Il bersagliere la bacia e poi va via
Il bersagliere la bacia e poi va via
Il bersagliere la bacia e poi va via
La fanteria la sposerà
La fanteria la sposerà
my dad told me the stories of my great grandpa, and battles in monte grappa would go something like this:
officer: 1st battallion, charge!
1st battallion: gets mowed down by austrian machine gun positions uphill
officer: 2nd battallion, charge!
2nd battallion: suffers the same fate a the 1st
officer: 3rd battallion, charge!
3rd battallion: suffers the same fate as the other
officer: hmm, after having exhausted nearly 500 lives for nothing, i think this won't work, instead let's try this. artillery squad! fire!
austrian position: gets destroyed by the artillery
italians: can finally take their hard fought 15 meters of land
Ww1 in a nutshell
Yea sounds about right, hot tempered with little brains!🤣🤣🤣 sounds more like target practice for Austrian machine gunners!🥹😆😂😂😂😂
that's exactly like any other battle on the western front...
@@Tonyx.yt. i don't recall the french front being mountainous, dunno though, could be me.
@@m.a.n4134 nope, was flat and easier, meanwhile the Isonzo front had a river and mountains