The Tricorder is the swiss army knife of Trek, does a great many things but is not the perfect tool for most of those. The other medical scanners we see are likely specialized to certain funcitons, like getting an actual screwdriver instead of using the tiny one on the swiss army knife.
The federation liked their multi-tools. Even the Phaser is more than just a weapon, its a tool with lots of other uses thanks to having a great amount o control over beam size and strength.
I think Rick might be re-watching Voyager too, the other day I was wondering about Bolians because they keep mentioning them offhand in the first 2 seasons quite a lot, next thing you know we have a "Cultural Index" on them.
@@cambrown5633 gotta do something in quarantine, and Voyager's a pretty decent show if you've watched TNG too many times recently. And you jettison one episode from canon like a Yagghorth from an airlock. You know the one. No, not the "Paris and Janeway have hot amphibious sexy times" one because hey, I'm not judging, rawrrrr go Kate and Tom. I mean "Tuvix", because murdering new and unique lifeforms isn't exactly the Starfleet way.
Fun fact: the creator of the MRI scanner was an huge fan of star trek and the medical tricorder was the reason why he was interested in creating a divice that could scan the interior of a patient without having to cut open the patient
I've heard that it's a stipulation of Gene Roddenberry's contact with Paramount that any company that actually creates one of these is allowed to call it a tricorder.
A tricorder is more than "just a scanner." It is a recording scanner, allowing the user to make a record of what they are scanning for future reference. It is also a handheld computer, allowing the user to process scanned/recorded data.
Fun fact: Voyager started off with the TNG larger tricorders (and phasers), like the one shown in the shot of Chakotay here, but later after First Contact, they got the newer models somehow, despite having been lost in the Delta Quadrant for a year. Also, you can tell a standard newer style tricorder from a medical one because standard has orange blinkies on top, medical has blue.
@@richardlahan7068 If they were, why bother with the old ones? Since replicators can break down things into the energy it uses to replicate things, they could've just broken down all the old ones and popped out the old ones.
Best part is, Bussard Collectors are one of the more actual legit science things about Star Trek. Their interpretation of the concept is faulty, of course, since Star Trek is basically magic science more than proper science fiction, but still.
That pretty much matches what I understood: The Medical Tricorder is the same base device, but with a different set of library cards in memory and an extra device plugged in/bluetooth connected. The removeable scanner makes a lot of sense, btw: It helps getting a 3D image. Something we need way more often in medicine then engineering. If you need a 3D image of some device, you will not fix it - you will replace it. So you might as well replace first, do complete analysis (or recycling and re-replication) later. But for medicine proper 3D resolution is crucial, as the existence of manipulateable X-Ray machines and CT, PET and MRI clearly show.
Funny I was just wondering who would downvote such a perfect video. Only 2 suspects came to mind: Jealous hosts of other channels and Star Wars fanboys who are upset their franchise doesn't have such well established and iconic technology.
It's amazing how well designed this was. When the writers of TNG came up with it in the 80s there was nothing like a smartphone and handheld computers were a distant dream. But this is exactly how you would design such a device even today. Brilliant work.
The only difference between the medical tricorder and the others is that it's been overclocked to play Tetris. WARNING: Playing Tetris may cause subspace interference.
Tetris actually has a use in medicine, there's evidence that focusing on it after a traumatic experience can severely reduce the severity of any future PTSD
The TNG Tech Manual tells us that while the only EPU (External Peripheral Unit) seen on screen was one for medical purposes, there were other disciplines that justified their own specialty peripheral units. Between the TNG Tech Manual (which is canon) and novels (non-canon Extended Universe) thereby a m are suggestions that peripheral units can be had for such fields of study as meteorology (where the EPU is designed to interlink with self-propelled sensor drones either placed in orbit by a starship, certain sub-probe devices, or even small micro-drones that would be stored within the EPU akin to the EMU's handheld triangulation probe), geology, munitions and corps of engineers work, research-specific devices (including personal cloaking devices designed for pre-first-contact observation missions of pre-warp societies), and even linguistic / universal-translator-related away missions.
I geek out on this stuff! Using the AO Scan Mobile feels like using a tricorder to me! (at least an early version) It is truly amazing - scanning, optimizing, full reports on the body, specific frequency programs directed at specific issues, and even "Balancing Harmonic" songs. Practically for me severe vertigo was gone in 5 days. Sooo grateful for this technology!
Maybe next time we'll get a video on "Medical Neck Thingies", the universal instrument to do everything from remote control your enemy, free your friend from remote control by the enemy, be a breathing tube for a parasite living in your throat, give you telepathic connections to your crew members, let you mind meld with your vulcan crew members, let you put people to sleep, make people over act... I mean put them in horrible pain... MEDICAL NECK THINGIE (TM), your one stop shop for all things technobabbley.
I love the attention to detail in Star Trek. And how (ultra) nerdy it is! It's just like talking about the economy or politics of ... Alderaan or of Talabecland. :)
The removable scanning device was an easier way to get close reading as compared to previously waving the whole tricorder over a being. In some scenes of Voyager, the point was made that this device could be as a less threatening device than the tricorder to alien species. Also, it allows for someone with the patient's trust to perform the scans while the doctor views readouts from afar. A side note is that being a small scanning device, its resemblance to a buttplug is not surprising...
I enjoy these very thorough videos on specific parts of the lore. Keep up the good work! Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
according to the star trek card game, yes there's an engineering and scientific attachment. never really looked for confirmation beyond seeing the engineering tricorder card when I was a kid.
That's continuous use I imagine. We practically never see anyone use a medical tricorder more than few minutes at a time, so it would last quite a while in actual use.
I always just assumed regular tricorders gave general information about what something is while medical tricorders gave specific information about the thing's health and what to do about it.
I would suspect, just a theory, that the display is probably optimized (in software) for displaying medical information for rapid diagnosis rather than scientific data, and its probably configured for automatic connection to the medical database onboard ship for rapid access o that info. Also, the memory is probably preloaded with medical information rather than general info. Whereas a regular tricorder would probably be configured for connection to the science side of the computer system and loaded with general science references. Again most of this other type of configuration would be in the software and thus reconfigurable.
I'd imagine there'd be some privacy issues with the medical attachments. Imagine being on a ship where just anyone can peek at your insides and genome.
This has nothing to do with the video really, but these videos remind me of one of the reasons I stopped playing Star Trek Online. The ship interiors look like warehouses with vaulted ceilings and captain's quarters that were as big as shuttle bays. It took 30 seconds to RUN across the main bridge of any ship. Anyway, good video!
Some thoughts on Picard concerning the series so far.: Regarding A.I. These come in a myriad of forms from vending machines that argue back, nanobots who rebuild things at ten times their original size, toasters obsessed to the point of psychosis with the need to heat bread. Clearly, the creators of A.I. have included some of man's flaws. The ability to go completely do-lally, for instance, Star Trek: Discovery’s malevolent A.I. bent on the destruction of all life in the galaxy bears a striking resemblance to one of Star Trek’s most iconic villains: the Borg. The two “species” echo each other in their distaste for organic life, fondness for time travel, and desire to eliminate anyone or anything that gets in their way of their mission to have the galaxy all to themselves. It’s a technology-based entity that despises all organic life and seeks to have the galaxy all to itself (and it’s also currently thwarted by humans). They even share a penchant for co-opting members of Starfleet to aid in their mission and red laser eyewear as evidenced in Discovery and Ariam’s personality shifts and Leland’s unfortunate demise. In fact, Discovery season 2's arc is starting to evoke First Contact more and more with every episode. Given that A.I.'s story is largely incomplete and it shares so many commonalities with the Borg and Data's brother, Lore who was completely devious and fanatical. The series Picard has yet to mention nutty old Uncle Lore and his nieces Dahj and Soji have completely forgotten their wayward Uncle. A.I. is slowly creeping into our everyday life in the 21st century. A foundation named Nesta plans to propose a new centre of innovation and research excellence utilising A.I. to turn their ambition into reality, drawing expertise from across public health and behavioural and social sciences, with the best practices from human-centred design, citizen science and asset-based community development. They plan to name it ‘The Nightingale’, in honour of Florence Nightingale’s vital contribution to public health research and practice. The Nightingale has been mentioned in Picard. A 24th century, Kraylor Wallenberg class medical transport, named by Harry Kim in Voyager. In "Where No Man Has Gone Before," TNG, 5th episode, Gary Mitchel quotes lines from the poem by Phineas Tarbolde, “Nightingale Woman" and calls it "one of the passionate love sonnets of its time. A Nightingale is also a bird and an earlier episode of Picard features a Romulan Warbird. Nightingale is also one of the main characters in the movie, ‘Hue and Cry’. Hugh is a liberated Borg from an earlier Star trek emenation featured in Picard. ‘Emanations' was an episode of Star trek Voyager, originally aired on March 3rd, 1995 and directed by David Livingston. An anagram of Jean Luc Picard is ‘Crap Juice Land' which could be the USA and the lesser cousin of Coca cola could be said to be Pepsi. In 1988 a video parodying TNG was released, entitled, Star Trek: ‘The Pepsi Generation’, featuring the plot, ‘The "Ferrari" have stolen all of the Pepsi from Starbase Seven-Up, and it is up to the crew of the Enterprise to rescue it, Captain Picard, along with Doodah the android’. Yar Har, Jordashe, Rigor Mortis Sex Toii (The Betamax Counselor). Ensign Expendable and Weasley Crushme all leap into action. Along the way the viewers meet the harried Star Trek writers crew and the Ferrari's fearsome leader’. (anonymous). Jonathon Frakes appeared in episode 7 of Picard. In 1987 Frakes was cast in the role of Commander William T. Riker of the starship Enterprise in TNG. Frakes played the part of Charles Lindbergh in a 1983 episode of Voyagers and appeared as a chef in Star trek Voyager. He appeared three times in Voyager in 1995 and 1996. In TNG, Frakes' character played the trombone; in Voyager the actress Jennifer Lien played Kes an Ocampan. Lien plays the trombone in real life. Sheis married to Phl-Seon Hwang, a film maker and writer from South Korea. She has appeared in interviews with her fellow star of Voyager, Garret Wang. In the Voyager episode, "Before and After", Tom Paris and Kes (Jennifer Lien) marry, and give birth to a daughter Linnis (Jessica Collins). Linnis and Kim marry, beget a child, Andrew Kim. Sirtis appears alongside Frakes in Picard, reprising her role as Deanna Troi a character from TNG. Florence Nightingale had only one sister of ten siblings. Her name was Parthenope, who was a siren from Greek mythology. Marina Sirtis was the daughter of working-class Greek parents. Nepenthe is a mythical drug written about in Greek literature. The name Picard has been recorded in many spelling forms including Pickard (England), Picard, Piccard, Piquard, and Picart (France), Picardi, Picardo and Piccardo, (Italy), Pikard and Pikhardt (Germany), this is a surname of two possible origins, both French. It can be locational and refer to someone from the region of Picardy in Northern France, or it can be derived from a French personal name compounded of the elements "Pic -hard" with the strange translation of "sharp and hardy” ,as is Jean luc Picard. Picard played by Patrick Stewart has a direct connection to the name Picard being a Yorkshireman. Recordings of the name include John (Jean) Pikart in the Huntingdonshire Hundred Rolls for 1279, whilst in the church records of Yorkshire show an Agneta Pikard. The spelling ‘Picardo' is very familiar to most Star trek fans. The EMH on Voyager was played by Robert Picardo another bald main character in the Star trek cannon. Like Livingstone he too was a medic. Livingstone was a member of the Medical Missionary Society and Florence Nightingale was a medical missionary and the first female member of the Royal Statistical Society. Tracy Livingstone is the Director of Nursing and Patient Services at Nightingale House and Hospice in the UK. Florence Nightingale's father was named Frances and Picard's vineyard is in France. The Nightingale is also known as the Bulbul which is often written about in Persian poetry. Iran is the modern name for Persia and spelled backwards is, 'Nari' which means, 'Deed' in Japanese. Picard is doing a deed or on a quest travelling through the galaxy. You might call it a, 'Galaxy Quest'. Which, as we all know was the best Star trek movie ever. Star Trek: The Pepsi Generation www.dailymotion.com/video/x2sz8dd
If the tricorder has to be redesigned with the knowledge we have today of what kind of interfaces can be used, specifically the touch screen, how would the tricorder look like?
Honestly, I may not be a fan of ToS and such, but I am surprised there was no mention of anything pre-TNG(essentially) in terms of the medical scanners. I remember distinctly the device that Bashier had on the Tribute episode where they went back to Trouble with Tribbles which was quite.... large. XD
"TRICORDER: A portable sensor-computer-recorder, about the size of a large rectangular handbag, carried by an over-the-shoulder strap. A remarkable miniaturized device, it can be used to analyze and keep records of almost any type of data on planet surfaces, plus sensing or identifying various objects. It can also give the age of an artifact, the composition of alien life, and so on. The tricorder can be carried by Uhura (as communications officer, she often maintains records of what is going on), by the female yeoman in a story, or by Mister Spock of course, as a portable scientific tool. It can also be identified as a 'medical tricorder' and carried by Doctor McCoy." (Star Trek: The Original Series 365, p. 026) memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tricorder
*yes yes, all very nice but what about spotty in ship Wi-Fi reception during those all too often sub space anomalies and tachyon inversions just when an accurate reading would be most useful?*
The TR-560 and TR-580 are almost the same size. The medical peripheral for the earlier tric may be a touch longer. The bodies weren't that different in size as your graphic shows. That may be because you're using a diagram of a Playmates Medical Tricorder toy in your second image. :) That toy is dramatically smaller than the real prop.
So you think it is funny Ha, I like the way you show the advancements in the size and the way the unnecessary tech was removed to give greater battery life. We are so lucky that the real world technicians and doctors enjoyed Star Trek and was driven to reach the desired technology. Great job bring the things we fine interesting to our understanding.
I think the presence of tiny holoprojects is a bit... canon-breaking. I'd prefer to think the Progentior program in The Chase just worked some magic (like when B'elana made a forcefield from a phaser, or Worf built a forcefield from a combadge; a nonsense one-off)... because if medical tricorders have tiny holoprojects, the Federation has basically already built the Mobile Emitter, and all the hand-wringing over Moriarty and the Doctor was pointless. Even if you say it really drains the batteries and can only run for a shot time... slap on a larger battery pack (perhaps like the backpack from the Doctor's holonovel in Author, Author), and boom- the EMH can leave sickbay any time, easy-peasy. So I'm gonna headcanon that no, the medical tricorder did not have holoprojectors- and The Chase was just silly 'the Progentiors made a program so powerful it could make a scanner project an image somehow' magic.
I don't know if you already covered it in the video about the medical tricorder, but, could you do a video that gives a more in-depth explanation of the differences between the tricorder and the medical tricorder
There is an episode of voyeur that all ways bugged me. It's the one were thy make holo luges for Nelxs. If you have the ability to covent energy to meter insistently to make Janeway her coffee . the growing replacements origins in a lab should be easy.
Other than one sore point this was a great video, however, you outlined 24th Century equipment; but, indicated it was 23rd Century technology (which would have referred to tricorders which were used in ST:TOS. Either you have already made one or should make one, after correcting this one.
80s and 90s: WOW ! The tricorder can do all this and wirelessly connect with an orbiting ships computer in such a small package? Such a fantastic piece of science fiction technology! 2020s: so it’s an iPhone? Why’s it so big and unwieldy? And why are they still using buttons?
@@Janoha17 Pretty much, it's also far more powerful than an I-Phone and won't shatter if you drop it. Also touchscreens have issues with various rough environments. So yes, its pretty much purely durability reasons.
I imagine that until the combadge needs to send or is receiving a message, it's in a very low power state. It could use technology similar to RFID in which the act of receiving a signal on the correct wavelength actually powers the device on. Considering its lower power requirements but also smaller size, one could imagine that just 2-3 hours of battery could serve many days of active communication as it's only 'on' for those few moments.
@@whosdr If Trek was more like real life, you'd have characters putting all their combadges, tricorders, PADDs and phasers on charging "spots" (I'll give them that all charging is wireless), then trying to find them all when they need them.
Why is it the STO animations have people so ridiculously and hilariously too short for whatever room they're in? Was this an initial screwup in the game 10 years ago that someone found "charming" and never corrected?
Standard MMO fare. Game Camera/View would always be zoomed in and it'd feel rather cramped and claustrophobic (especially with the hundreds of players that were at Earth Space Dock when the game was new) if the interiors were more real-world sized.
Because originally players were supposed to be able to visit each other's starships and to interact more in general. To avoid too much claustrophobia and confusion when multiple people were in the same room, they were made far bigger than their show counterparts.
@@millefune Compare with the remodeled DS9. It has been remade to look more like DS9 did on TV, and while it isn't exactly cramped, it does restrict camera movement to a noticeable degree.
Fantasy: "You can imagine any longevity of battery for your tricorder you can in a sci-fi..." Author: "I can? Even unimaginable long-lasting battery?" Fantasy: "Yes. Of course" Author: "18-hour battery it is" *smug face*
The Tricorder is the swiss army knife of Trek, does a great many things but is not the perfect tool for most of those. The other medical scanners we see are likely specialized to certain funcitons, like getting an actual screwdriver instead of using the tiny one on the swiss army knife.
The federation liked their multi-tools. Even the Phaser is more than just a weapon, its a tool with lots of other uses thanks to having a great amount o control over beam size and strength.
The Doctor (After having been given a regular Tricorder): Medical Tricorder!
Star Trek: Voyager: season one: episode one:"The Caretaker"
I think Rick might be re-watching Voyager too, the other day I was wondering about Bolians because they keep mentioning them offhand in the first 2 seasons quite a lot, next thing you know we have a "Cultural Index" on them.
*tricorder, shimicorder*
_Medical_ sonic screwdriver!
@@cambrown5633 gotta do something in quarantine, and Voyager's a pretty decent show if you've watched TNG too many times recently. And you jettison one episode from canon like a Yagghorth from an airlock. You know the one. No, not the "Paris and Janeway have hot amphibious sexy times" one because hey, I'm not judging, rawrrrr go Kate and Tom. I mean "Tuvix", because murdering new and unique lifeforms isn't exactly the Starfleet way.
Fun fact: the creator of the MRI scanner was an huge fan of star trek and the medical tricorder was the reason why he was interested in creating a divice that could scan the interior of a patient without having to cut open the patient
I always did enjoy voyagers EMH annoyed voice as he asks for a tricorder ...then a medical tricorder.
I've heard that it's a stipulation of Gene Roddenberry's contact with Paramount that any company that actually creates one of these is allowed to call it a tricorder.
And they win like 50k
Cool video it would be awesome to see you do a comparison of all the various tricorder types throughout Star Trek history
That's a great idea!
A tricorder is more than "just a scanner." It is a recording scanner, allowing the user to make a record of what they are scanning for future reference. It is also a handheld computer, allowing the user to process scanned/recorded data.
Fun fact: Voyager started off with the TNG larger tricorders (and phasers), like the one shown in the shot of Chakotay here, but later after First Contact, they got the newer models somehow, despite having been lost in the Delta Quadrant for a year.
Also, you can tell a standard newer style tricorder from a medical one because standard has orange blinkies on top, medical has blue.
If the patterns were in the computer, they could have replicated them.
@@richardlahan7068 If they were, why bother with the old ones? Since replicators can break down things into the energy it uses to replicate things, they could've just broken down all the old ones and popped out the old ones.
Bussard Collectors next? Get _real_ nerdy.
Best part is, Bussard Collectors are one of the more actual legit science things about Star Trek. Their interpretation of the concept is faulty, of course, since Star Trek is basically magic science more than proper science fiction, but still.
I'd pay extra for the larger screen on the tricorder +.
What's the difference? Easy. Medical Tricorder is a heal, and Regular Tricorder is an enemy debuff.
That's what STO taught me!
That pretty much matches what I understood:
The Medical Tricorder is the same base device, but with a different set of library cards in memory and an extra device plugged in/bluetooth connected.
The removeable scanner makes a lot of sense, btw: It helps getting a 3D image. Something we need way more often in medicine then engineering.
If you need a 3D image of some device, you will not fix it - you will replace it. So you might as well replace first, do complete analysis (or recycling and re-replication) later.
But for medicine proper 3D resolution is crucial, as the existence of manipulateable X-Ray machines and CT, PET and MRI clearly show.
One downvote from a Vidiian who is thoroughly unimpressed with the tricorder's lack of medium range organ harvesting capability.
Looks like he told his six friends.
Funny I was just wondering who would downvote such a perfect video. Only 2 suspects came to mind: Jealous hosts of other channels and Star Wars fanboys who are upset their franchise doesn't have such well established and iconic technology.
@@lillyanneserrelio2187 star wars did have such well established and iconic technology but disney made it non canon
That's because Starfleet is developing a tricorder that prints organs on the fly. It's inspiration is the portable marshmallow maker from Star Trek V
@@pearsegallagher106 Name one.
It's amazing how well designed this was. When the writers of TNG came up with it in the 80s there was nothing like a smartphone and handheld computers were a distant dream. But this is exactly how you would design such a device even today. Brilliant work.
The only difference between the medical tricorder and the others is that it's been overclocked to play Tetris. WARNING: Playing Tetris may cause subspace interference.
Tetris actually has a use in medicine, there's evidence that focusing on it after a traumatic experience can severely reduce the severity of any future PTSD
Getting a real Texas Instruments vibe now that I’m seeing all this in one place.
The TNG Tech Manual tells us that while the only EPU (External Peripheral Unit) seen on screen was one for medical purposes, there were other disciplines that justified their own specialty peripheral units. Between the TNG Tech Manual (which is canon) and novels (non-canon Extended Universe) thereby a m are suggestions that peripheral units can be had for such fields of study as meteorology (where the EPU is designed to interlink with self-propelled sensor drones either placed in orbit by a starship, certain sub-probe devices, or even small micro-drones that would be stored within the EPU akin to the EMU's handheld triangulation probe), geology, munitions and corps of engineers work, research-specific devices (including personal cloaking devices designed for pre-first-contact observation missions of pre-warp societies), and even linguistic / universal-translator-related away missions.
So they could cloak an observation party, but not a starship.
@@Janoha17 I mean, there was literally an entire movie about that.
Once again, the exact video I wanted without knowing it. Great job.
I geek out on this stuff! Using the AO Scan Mobile feels like using a tricorder to me! (at least an early version) It is truly amazing - scanning, optimizing, full reports on the body, specific frequency programs directed at specific issues, and even "Balancing Harmonic" songs. Practically for me severe vertigo was gone in 5 days. Sooo grateful for this technology!
Maybe next time we'll get a video on "Medical Neck Thingies", the universal instrument to do everything from remote control your enemy, free your friend from remote control by the enemy, be a breathing tube for a parasite living in your throat, give you telepathic connections to your crew members, let you mind meld with your vulcan crew members, let you put people to sleep, make people over act... I mean put them in horrible pain...
MEDICAL NECK THINGIE (TM), your one stop shop for all things technobabbley.
That would be the video he recently did on hyposprays!
@@JackgarPrime I think he was talking about the little sticky blinky light disc used for pretty much all those situations.
Neural transceiver?
Just take any object of the right general size or shape, add like 20 LEDs, and you now have a Medical Neck Thingie
Doctor: It appears you have green blood syndrome.
Patient: Gee can I get a second opinion?
Doctor: Sure, you're a Vulcan.
“Rick here again (big shocker)”- it is a shock when I expect to hear you and Tim comes on, though he does a good job.
Very fascinating information! Thank you Rick!🖖
You didn't mention the Videians Tri-Quarter scanning device . As seen in Voyager .... Which is way more advanced than Star fleet
I had the same thought
*also much more scary*
Just helpful advice my fellow Trekkie, it's Vidiian iirc.
@@Rammstein0963. thanks dude
"Tri-Quarter"?
Kool vid! Love to see one on the Vidiians medical devices...their equipment made Federation tech look like toys
You should make a video covering all the different forms of handheld weapons used by starfleet and their predecessors.
Medi-Kitt - Is that what you call the Knight Industries Three Thousand when it's disguised as a Paramedic vehicle ?
The new Starfleet Standard Medkit, now with a carrying slot for your medical tricorder for east of access!
Rick I love your typos.
I love the attention to detail in Star Trek. And how (ultra) nerdy it is! It's just like talking about the economy or politics of ... Alderaan or of Talabecland. :)
The removable scanning device was an easier way to get close reading as compared to previously waving the whole tricorder over a being. In some scenes of Voyager, the point was made that this device could be as a less threatening device than the tricorder to alien species. Also, it allows for someone with the patient's trust to perform the scans while the doctor views readouts from afar.
A side note is that being a small scanning device, its resemblance to a buttplug is not surprising...
A little vaseline or k-y and you'll won't see that puppy for any number of hours.
I got a reply on FB from Rick Sternbach that the TR-580 was indeed a little wordplay on the classic TRS-80 from the early 80s.
The Medical Peripheral adds far more than 3 cm to the existing Tricorder's height.
I enjoy these very thorough videos on specific parts of the lore. Keep up the good work! Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
I wonder if there were other peripherals along side the medical one, ie: an Engineering specific one, a science (non medical) one, ect...
according to the star trek card game, yes there's an engineering and scientific attachment.
never really looked for confirmation beyond seeing the engineering tricorder card when I was a kid.
I swear I vaguely remember an original series episode where someone had a geology tricorder.
I’m not really not Trek but....I do love your videos, it’s just extra nerd knowledge my brain can’t live without
I’ve got an idea for a video: differences between human civilisation in different pieces of media?
Am I alone in thinking that battery life seems too short?
Yeah, pretty sure by Starfleet era, it should have a battery life of, like, 200 years. :-)
That's continuous use I imagine. We practically never see anyone use a medical tricorder more than few minutes at a time, so it would last quite a while in actual use.
And the Com Badge....must have a charger port or something
With all of the inevitable USB charger wires all over one's in-ship quarters no wonder why cats are not allowed in any Starfleet ships, @@samdog8087.
@@samdog8087 I would guess wireless charging while on board ship.
I always just assumed regular tricorders gave general information about what something is while medical tricorders gave specific information about the thing's health and what to do about it.
I would suspect, just a theory, that the display is probably optimized (in software) for displaying medical information for rapid diagnosis rather than scientific data, and its probably configured for automatic connection to the medical database onboard ship for rapid access o that info. Also, the memory is probably preloaded with medical information rather than general info. Whereas a regular tricorder would probably be configured for connection to the science side of the computer system and loaded with general science references. Again most of this other type of configuration would be in the software and thus reconfigurable.
I thought you said TI-580. And I was impressed that Texas Instruments was still around in the 24th century.
Very interesting, but I can’t help but be distracted by the footage.. WHY are those ceilings so damn high?!
Because in STO everyone is claustrophobic. Everyone.
I'd imagine there'd be some privacy issues with the medical attachments. Imagine being on a ship where just anyone can peek at your insides and genome.
This has nothing to do with the video really, but these videos remind me of one of the reasons I stopped playing Star Trek Online. The ship interiors look like warehouses with vaulted ceilings and captain's quarters that were as big as shuttle bays. It took 30 seconds to RUN across the main bridge of any ship. Anyway, good video!
This was great!
The Doctor: "Tricorder."
Harry Kim: :hands him a tricorder:
The Doctor: _"Medical_ tricorder!"
Meanwhile in STO fully healing super severe and life threatening wounds on the fly
Now I want a video on the Off-Button Hypospray and the Medical Phaser…
Some thoughts on Picard concerning the series so far.: Regarding A.I. These come in a myriad of forms from vending machines that argue back, nanobots who rebuild things at ten times their original size, toasters obsessed to the point of psychosis with the need to heat bread. Clearly, the creators of A.I. have included some of man's flaws. The ability to go completely do-lally, for instance, Star Trek: Discovery’s malevolent A.I. bent on the destruction of all life in the galaxy bears a striking resemblance to one of Star Trek’s most iconic villains: the Borg. The two “species” echo each other in their distaste for organic life, fondness for time travel, and desire to eliminate anyone or anything that gets in their way of their mission to have the galaxy all to themselves. It’s a technology-based entity that despises all organic life and seeks to have the galaxy all to itself (and it’s also currently thwarted by humans). They even share a penchant for co-opting members of Starfleet to aid in their mission and red laser eyewear as evidenced in Discovery and Ariam’s personality shifts and Leland’s unfortunate demise. In fact, Discovery season 2's arc is starting to evoke First Contact more and more with every episode. Given that A.I.'s story is largely incomplete and it shares so many commonalities with the Borg and Data's brother, Lore who was completely devious and fanatical. The series Picard has yet to mention nutty old Uncle Lore and his nieces Dahj and Soji have completely forgotten their wayward Uncle. A.I. is slowly creeping into our everyday life in the 21st century. A foundation named Nesta plans to propose a new centre of innovation and research excellence utilising A.I. to turn their ambition into reality, drawing expertise from across public health and behavioural and social sciences, with the best practices from human-centred design, citizen science and asset-based community development. They plan to name it ‘The Nightingale’, in honour of Florence Nightingale’s vital contribution to public health research and practice. The Nightingale has been mentioned in Picard. A 24th century, Kraylor Wallenberg class medical transport, named by Harry Kim in Voyager. In "Where No Man Has Gone Before," TNG, 5th episode, Gary Mitchel quotes lines from the poem by Phineas Tarbolde, “Nightingale Woman" and calls it "one of the passionate love sonnets of its time. A Nightingale is also a bird and an earlier episode of Picard features a Romulan Warbird. Nightingale is also one of the main characters in the movie, ‘Hue and Cry’. Hugh is a liberated Borg from an earlier Star trek emenation featured in Picard. ‘Emanations' was an episode of Star trek Voyager, originally aired on March 3rd, 1995 and directed by David Livingston. An anagram of Jean Luc Picard is ‘Crap Juice Land' which could be the USA and the lesser cousin of Coca cola could be said to be Pepsi. In 1988 a video parodying TNG was released, entitled, Star Trek: ‘The Pepsi Generation’, featuring the plot, ‘The "Ferrari" have stolen all of the Pepsi from Starbase Seven-Up, and it is up to the crew of the Enterprise to rescue it, Captain Picard, along with Doodah the android’. Yar Har, Jordashe, Rigor Mortis Sex Toii (The Betamax Counselor). Ensign Expendable and Weasley Crushme all leap into action. Along the way the viewers meet the harried Star Trek writers crew and the Ferrari's fearsome leader’. (anonymous). Jonathon Frakes appeared in episode 7 of Picard. In 1987 Frakes was cast in the role of Commander William T. Riker of the starship Enterprise in TNG. Frakes played the part of Charles Lindbergh in a 1983 episode of Voyagers and appeared as a chef in Star trek Voyager. He appeared three times in Voyager in 1995 and 1996. In TNG, Frakes' character played the trombone; in Voyager the actress Jennifer Lien played Kes an Ocampan. Lien plays the trombone in real life. Sheis married to Phl-Seon Hwang, a film maker and writer from South Korea. She has appeared in interviews with her fellow star of Voyager, Garret Wang. In the Voyager episode, "Before and After", Tom Paris and Kes (Jennifer Lien) marry, and give birth to a daughter Linnis (Jessica Collins). Linnis and Kim marry, beget a child, Andrew Kim. Sirtis appears alongside Frakes in Picard, reprising her role as Deanna Troi a character from TNG. Florence Nightingale had only one sister of ten siblings. Her name was Parthenope, who was a siren from Greek mythology. Marina Sirtis was the daughter of working-class Greek parents. Nepenthe is a mythical drug written about in Greek literature. The name Picard has been recorded in many spelling forms including Pickard (England), Picard, Piccard, Piquard, and Picart (France), Picardi, Picardo and Piccardo, (Italy), Pikard and Pikhardt (Germany), this is a surname of two possible origins, both French. It can be locational and refer to someone from the region of Picardy in Northern France, or it can be derived from a French personal name compounded of the elements "Pic -hard" with the strange translation of "sharp and hardy” ,as is Jean luc Picard. Picard played by Patrick Stewart has a direct connection to the name Picard being a Yorkshireman. Recordings of the name include John (Jean) Pikart in the Huntingdonshire Hundred Rolls for 1279, whilst in the church records of Yorkshire show an Agneta Pikard. The spelling ‘Picardo' is very familiar to most Star trek fans. The EMH on Voyager was played by Robert Picardo another bald main character in the Star trek cannon. Like Livingstone he too was a medic. Livingstone was a member of the Medical Missionary Society and Florence Nightingale was a medical missionary and the first female member of the Royal Statistical Society. Tracy Livingstone is the Director of Nursing and Patient Services at Nightingale House and Hospice in the UK. Florence Nightingale's father was named Frances and Picard's vineyard is in France. The Nightingale is also known as the Bulbul which is often written about in Persian poetry. Iran is the modern name for Persia and spelled backwards is, 'Nari' which means, 'Deed' in Japanese. Picard is doing a deed or on a quest travelling through the galaxy. You might call it a, 'Galaxy Quest'. Which, as we all know was the best Star trek movie ever.
Star Trek: The Pepsi Generation www.dailymotion.com/video/x2sz8dd
Really like these detailed videos!
Tricorders are basically where our smartphones are heading. Very useful little buggers
this is AWESOME
Cool video. Nice job.
If the tricorder has to be redesigned with the knowledge we have today of what kind of interfaces can be used, specifically the touch screen, how would the tricorder look like?
I guess that means EMH's would be next on the list.
Honestly, I may not be a fan of ToS and such, but I am surprised there was no mention of anything pre-TNG(essentially) in terms of the medical scanners. I remember distinctly the device that Bashier had on the Tribute episode where they went back to Trouble with Tribbles which was quite.... large. XD
Well, that was just a standard TOS tricorder, as far as I recall.
"TRICORDER: A portable sensor-computer-recorder, about the size of a large rectangular handbag, carried by an over-the-shoulder strap. A remarkable miniaturized device, it can be used to analyze and keep records of almost any type of data on planet surfaces, plus sensing or identifying various objects. It can also give the age of an artifact, the composition of alien life, and so on. The tricorder can be carried by Uhura (as communications officer, she often maintains records of what is going on), by the female yeoman in a story, or by Mister Spock of course, as a portable scientific tool. It can also be identified as a 'medical tricorder' and carried by Doctor McCoy." (Star Trek: The Original Series 365, p. 026)
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*yes yes, all very nice but what about spotty in ship Wi-Fi reception during those all too often sub space anomalies and tachyon inversions just when an accurate reading would be most useful?*
What about a video on coradical stimulators?
The TR-560 and TR-580 are almost the same size. The medical peripheral for the earlier tric may be a touch longer. The bodies weren't that different in size as your graphic shows. That may be because you're using a diagram of a Playmates Medical Tricorder toy in your second image. :) That toy is dramatically smaller than the real prop.
So you think it is funny Ha, I like the way you show the advancements in the size and the way the unnecessary tech was removed to give greater battery life. We are so lucky that the real world technicians and doctors enjoyed Star Trek and was driven to reach the desired technology. Great job bring the things we fine interesting to our understanding.
400 years in the future and we still have battery life problems. 😔
That's what you get with extra thin devices, good old bulky TOS tricorders could work for days.
As Belana Torres said the Vadean's scanners can gather so much information that it puts the tricorder to shame.
I was shocked to see you on this channel.
I think the presence of tiny holoprojects is a bit... canon-breaking. I'd prefer to think the Progentior program in The Chase just worked some magic (like when B'elana made a forcefield from a phaser, or Worf built a forcefield from a combadge; a nonsense one-off)... because if medical tricorders have tiny holoprojects, the Federation has basically already built the Mobile Emitter, and all the hand-wringing over Moriarty and the Doctor was pointless. Even if you say it really drains the batteries and can only run for a shot time... slap on a larger battery pack (perhaps like the backpack from the Doctor's holonovel in Author, Author), and boom- the EMH can leave sickbay any time, easy-peasy.
So I'm gonna headcanon that no, the medical tricorder did not have holoprojectors- and The Chase was just silly 'the Progentiors made a program so powerful it could make a scanner project an image somehow' magic.
Ric? You should do one on just, tricorders. And maybe another on alien scanners/tricorders. Just an idea! 😊
Medical Tricorder : Holds Dr. McCoy's scanner, so he won't lose it. It's a prop thing.
Rick didn't mention it but the peripheral scanner could also be used for more...surreptitious scanning. Which McCoy was especially good at.
@@CieJe.Alexander : Except when he tipped off the Klingon in the forge. Private little war, eh?
I don't know if you already covered it in the video about the medical tricorder, but, could you do a video that gives a more in-depth explanation of the differences between the tricorder and the medical tricorder
The TR-580 is cool and all, but I still prefer the Ti-84 Plus CE.
How about a Video on Sick-Bays as a whole?
would have been nice to see the TOS version too.
There is an episode of voyeur that all ways bugged me. It's the one were thy make holo luges for Nelxs. If you have the ability to covent energy to meter insistently to make Janeway her coffee . the growing replacements origins in a lab should be easy.
Other than one sore point this was a great video, however, you outlined 24th Century equipment; but, indicated it was 23rd Century technology (which would have referred to tricorders which were used in ST:TOS. Either you have already made one or should make one, after correcting this one.
I didn't realize that you've already done a video about the medical tricorder, I'm going to have to look it up
All well and good. Yet can a Tricorder play Doom?
Tricorders play Skyrim. Comm badges play Doom.
80s and 90s: WOW ! The tricorder can do all this and wirelessly connect with an orbiting ships computer in such a small package? Such a fantastic piece of science fiction technology!
2020s: so it’s an iPhone? Why’s it so big and unwieldy? And why are they still using buttons?
Ruggedness/durability, and buttons are more intuitive.
@@Janoha17 Pretty much, it's also far more powerful than an I-Phone and won't shatter if you drop it. Also touchscreens have issues with various rough environments.
So yes, its pretty much purely durability reasons.
An iPhone is a toy compared to tricorder. Also, if you fart near an iPhone it will break.
if combadge use the same power source as the tricoder, then why doesn't the combadge run out of power?
I imagine that until the combadge needs to send or is receiving a message, it's in a very low power state. It could use technology similar to RFID in which the act of receiving a signal on the correct wavelength actually powers the device on. Considering its lower power requirements but also smaller size, one could imagine that just 2-3 hours of battery could serve many days of active communication as it's only 'on' for those few moments.
@@whosdr If Trek was more like real life, you'd have characters putting all their combadges, tricorders, PADDs and phasers on charging "spots" (I'll give them that all charging is wireless), then trying to find them all when they need them.
What would a 29th or 31st century tricorder be like, we saw them but very little of them.
Why is it the STO animations have people so ridiculously and hilariously too short for whatever room they're in? Was this an initial screwup in the game 10 years ago that someone found "charming" and never corrected?
Standard MMO fare. Game Camera/View would always be zoomed in and it'd feel rather cramped and claustrophobic (especially with the hundreds of players that were at Earth Space Dock when the game was new) if the interiors were more real-world sized.
Because originally players were supposed to be able to visit each other's starships and to interact more in general. To avoid too much claustrophobia and confusion when multiple people were in the same room, they were made far bigger than their show counterparts.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 You can also create characters that are quite large.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 I always do that. Roleplaying as a human with remnant augment genes still in his DNA.
@@millefune Compare with the remodeled DS9. It has been remade to look more like DS9 did on TV, and while it isn't exactly cramped, it does restrict camera movement to a noticeable degree.
You know with how small it is, they could just incorporate both tricorders into one unit
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Rick: Rick here
Me: (Insert surprised pikachu)
3:58 ". . . East of access"
Cool.
How about the communicator/combadge?
So next a video on the engineering tricorder?
"...and because I think it's funny."
Awesome, but make Betazoid, please!
TR-580 = TRS 80 (remember that piece of kit?)
Are there not any other specific tricorders for engineering, or other such areas, other then a basic tricorder?
My crew use the 16th generation one regular and medical
The model names sound like Texas Instruments calculators
How about a video on the sonic screwdriver?
I'm having an aneurysm trying to parse the first sentence of this video.
A pretty thorough explanation of something that doesn't even exist. Thank you
Would you be able to do tech from the Enterprise era? Then vs 24th century
Could you do a cultural index on romulans?
I like the psy-scaner from red dwarf
Hey Rick. Greetings from Belfast
Fantasy: "You can imagine any longevity of battery for your tricorder you can in a sci-fi..."
Author: "I can? Even unimaginable long-lasting battery?"
Fantasy: "Yes. Of course"
Author: "18-hour battery it is" *smug face*
18h? Seriously? 24th century Apple product? I remember that they used them much longer, stranded somewhere, or something like that
It's far from canon, in the old FASA RPG standard tricorders had about 50% more battery life than specialized tricorders.
Medical tricorder currently out of stock due to high demand and covid 19