Ok so as soon as you said celestial creature I just imagined a unicorn blooded sorcerer that has a horn, and everyone from their home town talk about how their mother slept with a unicorn even though they were just blessed by one when they were sick as a child. My mind is weird. Guess that's why I am the DM for my group.
Shadow Sorcerer = Final Fantasy Black Mage. You could literally describe yourself as a being of pure shadow with two beady yellow eyes stuffed into clothing. Especially when the guide gives you the built by an alchemist background, that's EXACTLY how Vivi and other Black Mages were created in FF9.
I wanna do a Divine Soul Goblin. I'm thinking when he was a child he was within proximity of a divine intervention. Where a great evil was slain. The blast ripped his flesh apart yet by a miracle he survived. His blood soaked up the holy light leaving him pure of heart though extremely scarred. He then saw the sins of his people and decided he must rid them of this chaos. Over a few years he showed his clan the path to Redemption, but that wasn't enough. Now the young goblin man decided the new, awoken order of goblin kind must mobilize and share the light of his savior at least lay to rest The Souls of his stubborn kin within said light.
i don't know if i'm the only one to realize it but, the shadow sorcerer is effectively your character becoming a dryampir. Besides the bite attack which would come from the race...your quirks describe you as seeming like your dead when your sleep, cold to the touch (like an undead body etc.), you summon minions and you can teleport and become shadow..seems very vampire like.
I do plan on playing a storm sorcerer half-orc and if possible taking a one or two level dip into fighter (or Paladin)......not saying I'm making a warcraft shaman but i'm totally making a warcraft shaman
And now, almost a year after watching this video for the first time, I am back. I am currently playing a Lawful Evil Divine Soul in an Evil Campaign, and my mind is aflutter with all the cool stuff that he'll be able to do as he gets to be more powerful. And I'm brainstorming a Conquest Paladin/Shadow Sorcerer as a backup character, because.. Well, that just fits so well together, doesn't it?
Recently, due to revelations in our 4th session, my character multiclassed into a Divine Soul Sorcerer. His mother, his adoptive mother, is the Demon Goddess Potencia, the Goddess of Ruthlessness. He has inherited and is being transfered her powers as a means for him to survive a possible apocalypse on the continent, where our game currently is happening. The way I'm playing it right now is that he is very accidental with how he unleashes his spells. He thinks of his friends, injured, and he suddenly heals them. To show off his Sorcerous background, I made it so that golden rings and stripes go around him when he activates his powers.
I think storm sorcery was also included in the Sword Coast Adventurers Guide. I remember I made an uthgardt storm sorcerer who was born during a storm and cast out when his powers manifested and his arcane focus is a wand that's basically a charred stick
Warspud723 It was, same as Sun Soul. I'm pretty sure they did that for the Adventurer's League, because you can only use the PHB +1 other official sourcebook.
lvl 6 Shadow Sorc in a Curse of Strahd game, Haven't had a chance to use my hound yet but so far I like all the thematic flavoring which fits well in Strahd.
Divine soul is my favorite sorcerer because of its awesome healing and cleric spells for an mobile Extended/Distant sorcery builds that utilize some fun an amazing character.
First video I've seen from you but its pretty good. Good video quality, insightful, and fun to watch. Just subscribed man. Also, is it a prerequisite to have a majestic beard to be a DnD UA-camr?
Playing an awakened tree storm sorcerer who awoke do to the rain of a large storm mixing with a magical individual who died near its roots. Its super fun doing a whole bunch of aoe spells on enemies. It is also different because I am one of the tankiest characters even though normally sorcerers dont have too much health.
I am just using a homebrew treant build i found online. In creating my character, it was originally just a treant, but treants look more humanoid than they did trees. Im still using the features of a treant, but my character looks more like just a tree than a treant. The one thing that I home-made for my character is that he can transfer his consciousness to any part of its body. I did this because, as a tree, my character is over 12 feet tall, which really inhibits him from going into any doorway, so i made it has a feature that it can take a part of its plumage and make a little tumbleweed. I can use that tumbleweed to actually move instead of the main tree (which i would have to plant somewhere out of the way) and move around as a little tumbleweed. Of course the little tumbleweed form has a much lower strength and con, but a much better dex.
I really wanna see them add a blood mage sorcerer. You not only have magic in your blood but you can learn to manipulate the blood of other creatures. Think bloodbender from that episode of avatar the last air bender. It is pretty fucking terrifying.
I am so glad you read this because I want to mutil my cleric, and since she was blessed by her deity and blasted a demon with divine light, she chose to be a cleric but a divine soul actually suits her more. If she is a divine soul it can really help boost my heals and it makes sense.
Yeah Divine Soul got me thinking what if you divine source is of the Opposite alignment Chaotic Good with a Lawful Evil Planer Ancestor/Affinity Or a Tiefling who eventually gets angel wings. I believe it was in Sword Coast page 136 for Storm Scorcerer
They need to make the Phoenix Sorcerous origin official... I think that was the one I was most looking forward to. Really disappointed they didn't follow throw with it :^(
Lean into that theme -- make a pseudonym 'The Unkillable', and take a banner of something death / blackness inclined. Channel the conqueror idea on an extra level by intentionally creating and spreading your reputation to the far reaches of the world.
Titan Bear Gaming thanks for the additional insight! I also like the added flavor Xanathar's gives for shadow sorcerer. I'll be specifically using the one where I barely bleed when injured so that I appear immortal to my enemies.
I have a storm sorcerer (has a level of tempest cleric, going to put on more in for max thunder/lightning damage channel divinity) who has their magic because a wizard used the imprisonment spell to create human weapons (sorcerers) by trapping powerful entities in thier souls as children. Storm sorcerers get their magic from elemental air so mine has a jinn in his soul
Playing as an open hand monk, dipping 1 level into divine sorcerer around level 10 gives you a ton of flavor as well as access to staff of the magi which blows away 4 element monk.
I'm playing my first ever campaign and picked wild magic sorcerer as my class and I'm loving it. I've almost turned into a sheep, had grease appear while fighting someone in a small room, randomly teleported and had a couple of other instances, so far all from having to roll because tides of chaos. My DM and I discussed it for my character and because in my back story my abilities tie a lot into the chaotic nature of things, I roll the d20 when needed but they roll anything on the surge table because my character is never quite sure what will happen. Once I'm level 14 and controlled chaos comes into play, he'll give me context clues like what energies I sense in relation to the surge and if I have felt them before or not.
I really like the cooperative element you have with your DM here. The concept of sensing ambient energies is really slick way to help the player feel more masterful of the character they've spent so many hours on, while still keeping to the mad-mage concept in theme. Love it shadowman21282.
I'm making a shadow sorc with hex warlock as my 2nd class. It's basically a bootleg Kayne from league of legends. Shadow walk is like kayne's ultimate cause he steps into their shadows. Umbral form is like kayne's walking through the terran his e. Plus he pretty much is taken over and changes his form cause of his scythe aka pact weapon. I didn't notice how much alike the character I was making was to the league character. But yeah I'm going 14 into sorc and 6 into warlock.
Divine Soul- Your parent fucked a god Shadow- You are darkness incarnate, casting spells alongside your dark poetry Storm- Thunder! Oh whoooaa! Thunder! Oh whoooaa! Thunder! Oh whoooaa! THUNDER!
The quirks gave me the impression that the character would seem almost undead in certain aspects. I would have liked it to be a kind of sorcerer's equivalent to the necromancer. Not to shamelessly plug, but I made a homebrew Sorcererous origin that I felt was more in line with what I expected form the Shadow Sorcerer after reading the quirk table. (for those interested: homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/B1svJiwHG)
I heard about a sorcerer that are created by night hags . The child is given back to the parents , but if the Night Hag does not complete some sort of ritual . The child becomes a sorcerer ( only females , with raven black hair ) . I cannot find this Sorcerer origin anywhere though.
I've been wanting to make a Warforged Sorcerer, based on Xerath from League of Legends. And I'm torn between Draconic Bloodline, mostly for the innate Mage Armor and extra HP they get.. And Storm Sorcerer, because that all feels pretty damn 'powerful magus' to me. Being able to just nope rain from touching you? That's pretty fricken powerful for any peasant that sees it!
That's how I feel about it, and why I'm so torn on the matter. I've also considered Stone Sorcerer from the UA, for the 13+Con formula for AC. I'll just make one of the Spells Known Mage Armor, and use the Warlock slot that I have for the character interpretation that I've made for him to cast that at the start of the day, then take a short rest while the rest is waking up to replenish my spent slot.
Well, Draconic would also get me Charisma modifier to my Lightning damage, since that's what I'd wanna focus on. Hence my looking into Storm Sorcerer. And I do a great deal of theorycrafting on characters I want to play. I currently have about 6 character ideas in varying states of readiness to be played.. And about 10 or so more that I haven't statted out, but are pretty solid ideas for me to work from. My general MO for character creation is come up with an idea, or a character from a game or movie that I'd like to play as.. Then refine the character to do what I want it to do, and how to get the basic idea online as soon as possible. A character idea that needs to be level 15 before it does what I want it to, is not worth playing. Since most games never get past level 12.
Hey Alex.. Im DMing a table and it allways hapens to me that even if my players say that some Sorcerer Origin sounds like so much fun, they end up choosing a Wizard becouse they fell it better in a mecanical sense.. I looked over and over in the internet for a rework of the class that would make it even to the Wizard, but I havent found anything that convince me.. I would love to see you adressing this problem and see if you find a good way!! Im realy enjoining your videos, thanks!!
I hear this a lot about Sorc in 5e, Santiago. Its a tough problem to crack. One easy change to Sorc that I find useful is to make it so Sorcs can learn new spells the same way as a Wizard, by finding them in the world. Since Sorcs are innately magical, they should be able to exert themselves toward casting an unknown spell, and once they figure it out they add it to their spells known. Use your discretion for how quickly/often you choose to do this. Bridging the breadth of wizard spell options with Sorc metamagic goes a long way toward making it viable as a player option.
Yep.. this looks like a cool idea.. I would make them try to recognice the spell that some other arcain caster is casting and if they are able to do it then they may use some sorcery points (depending of the lvl of the spell) to engrave it in their memory.. sounds good, interesting and funny.. and it cleary enforces the theme of the sorcerer!! Ill try it at the table!! thank you Alex!
@@TitanGamingTV I would probably add to the Sorcery points cost (since you regain those points) with an XP cost a little costlier than for a wizard. So you'd be able to learn new spells but would level a bit slower.
I quite like the new Ranger options, I think players will find all of those new options to be intriguing and rewarding in gameplay. Plus the Ranger really needed some love, class definition wise, so its some water for the thirsty in a sense. Second would be the new Sorcerer options, for similar reasons :)
I think the strength of the undying thing is great at early levels when the sorcerer is kind of week as it is. Considering you get it at level 1 I feel like it is actually great and it is ok if you scale out of it by later portions of the game. The hound is basically a Heighten spell that allows you to ALSO use careful spell or another meta magic along side it like twin or Careful or subtle spell if you want which frees you up to take the other meta magic abilities which is great because you REALLY want meta magic stuff. Also can you Imagine Hold Person + Hound of Ill Omen, Disadvantage on saving throws + auto crits from your hound because of paralysis ...... Also since there is no limit on the hound you can theoretically summon 2 of them and Dire wolves have access to pack tactics giving each of your hounds of ill omen advantage on their attacks.
Its a pretty strong ruleset -- power of gameplay through simplification. Not easy to achieve, but WOTC somehow managed. Feel free to ask questions here, on socials, or on discord :)
What's funny is when a character class is overplayed in other games, the makers try to balance it. Not this game though! Instead a majority of the new sub-classes are based off of the most played classes imbalancing the game even more. Greeeeat; why should people play wizards again? They took away bonus languages based off of intelligence, they made them total glass cannons and they made only one subclass which is basically a rogue-wizard (ie war wizard). Why are there not more summoners, or necromancers that wear armour? When you google necromancer over half of the images are wearing armour; how is that mechanic still not built into D&D?
Y'know these are great Q's, Raven. I think for now it's a casualty of WOTC trying to drive new directions forward for their game, which does mean leaving some things behind that people actually appreciated but didnt fit with the new vision. I think Wizard is going to be one of the first areas that gets some attention when WOTC digs in to change the magic system. They've really painted themselves into a corner with Wizard archetypes -- they can't release anything significant without severely overpowering the other classes. Complicated stuff.
I agree, I just think that DEX is now the go to stat as it is useful in virtually any situation while INT is now only useful to wizards predominantly and has very little real-world application (and even for wizards it's quite limited). Additionally, they keep downplaying the wizard by making a class that is too physically weak to want to play. What I think they should do for starters is make a class called something like "Battle Necromancer" which is a purist necromancy based wizard type class which gets the starting martial proficiencies of a Paladin (ie can wear all types of armour, can use a shield, etc), give it a fighting style like the Paladin at level 2, and then make a majority of new spells aimed at augmenting its fighting capabilities. This still wouldn't make the necromancer as strong as a paladin in close-quarters combat, as it would still have the HP of a wizard (1D6 compared to 1D10) however, it would increase the appeal of making a sort of summoner that fights alongside the creatures they summon. If they gave a class like that abilities that protect or grant advantage to summons in close range (similar to the protection fighting style of the paladin, but with spells that enhance this aspect) they would have a new class that people would want to play that isn't overpowered. A wizard at the end of the day is still a glass no matter how you look at it, but there are ways of making it a more fun class to play. Anyway, I love D&D regardless; I just love the wizard but hate how linear they've made the wizard's play style. I can think of 5 other types of wizards that would similarly not be overpowered yet would be fun to play; another fun type would a wizard that specializes in making golem/artifact creature based summons. In any case don't take this as a jab against your video by the way; I like your content. I just thought I'd mention it, since it's been one of the observations I've made regarding Xanathar's guide to everything.
If you want a heavily-armored martial necromancer, be an Eldritch Knight and take Necromancy spells. It'll take a while to actually amass an undead horde for your deathknight to lead (since Animate Dead itself is 3rd level) but slashing an enemy and then following up with Toll The Dead, or opening combat with Ray of Enfeeblement are nice tricks for a front-line fighter. If you want a little less martial prowess and a lot more necromantic options, there's always a Death Domain cleric: medium armor, martial weapons, shields, and all the necromancy on the cleric list. If you have to rock full plate, it's only one feat away,
Decent commentary but the bit complaining about physical manifestations (marks, extra toe etc) just came across as being painfully ignorant, because those exact traits are taken from real world myth about what marks someone out as a 'magic-user'. Extra digits, especially, appears in folklore across most of the world to denote some form of being touched by gods, demons or devils. Maybe be more accepting, or at least do a tiny amount of research, next time.
@@TitanGamingTV Funny thing is that in ye olden days, those signs were used as excuses to shun or outright abuse/kill people, so maybe it still isn't the best choice of things to use. Me, I'd use things that don't follow normal human mutations, like abnormally pigmented skin or hair or eyes, glowy auras, that kind of thing. When having an extra toe could lead to your hanging for being a "witch", well...
"wow, how did you get your magical powers?" "Me great grandad shagged a dragin."
grandad was a bard
priceless
Ok so as soon as you said celestial creature I just imagined a unicorn blooded sorcerer that has a horn, and everyone from their home town talk about how their mother slept with a unicorn even though they were just blessed by one when they were sick as a child. My mind is weird. Guess that's why I am the DM for my group.
A weird mind is a creative mind. Milk it for all its worth.
Shadow Sorcerer = Final Fantasy Black Mage.
You could literally describe yourself as a being of pure shadow with two beady yellow eyes stuffed into clothing. Especially when the guide gives you the built by an alchemist background, that's EXACTLY how Vivi and other Black Mages were created in FF9.
This fits that theme very well!
I wanna do a Divine Soul Goblin. I'm thinking when he was a child he was within proximity of a divine intervention. Where a great evil was slain. The blast ripped his flesh apart yet by a miracle he survived. His blood soaked up the holy light leaving him pure of heart though extremely scarred. He then saw the sins of his people and decided he must rid them of this chaos. Over a few years he showed his clan the path to Redemption, but that wasn't enough. Now the young goblin man decided the new, awoken order of goblin kind must mobilize and share the light of his savior at least lay to rest The Souls of his stubborn kin within said light.
I'd play that outright. Nice one.
I am thinking maglubiyet is going to be pissed.
Your goblin: you are being rescued.
Other goblins: what?
Your goblin: please do not resist.
i don't know if i'm the only one to realize it but, the shadow sorcerer is effectively your character becoming a dryampir. Besides the bite attack which would come from the race...your quirks describe you as seeming like your dead when your sleep, cold to the touch (like an undead body etc.), you summon minions and you can teleport and become shadow..seems very vampire like.
I do plan on playing a storm sorcerer half-orc and if possible taking a one or two level dip into fighter (or Paladin)......not saying I'm making a warcraft shaman but i'm totally making a warcraft shaman
Totally. Ride that lightning.
And now, almost a year after watching this video for the first time, I am back.
I am currently playing a Lawful Evil Divine Soul in an Evil Campaign, and my mind is aflutter with all the cool stuff that he'll be able to do as he gets to be more powerful.
And I'm brainstorming a Conquest Paladin/Shadow Sorcerer as a backup character, because.. Well, that just fits so well together, doesn't it?
So how did the characters work out? Im looking toward playing something LE myself in the future :)
Recently, due to revelations in our 4th session, my character multiclassed into a Divine Soul Sorcerer. His mother, his adoptive mother, is the Demon Goddess Potencia, the Goddess of Ruthlessness. He has inherited and is being transfered her powers as a means for him to survive a possible apocalypse on the continent, where our game currently is happening. The way I'm playing it right now is that he is very accidental with how he unleashes his spells. He thinks of his friends, injured, and he suddenly heals them. To show off his Sorcerous background, I made it so that golden rings and stripes go around him when he activates his powers.
“You were made in a vat by an alchemist.” Presumably with sugar, spice, everything nice, and chemical X.
I think storm sorcery was also included in the Sword Coast Adventurers Guide. I remember I made an uthgardt storm sorcerer who was born during a storm and cast out when his powers manifested and his arcane focus is a wand that's basically a charred stick
Yeah I think you're right Warspud. Charred stick, haha.
Warspud723 It was, same as Sun Soul. I'm pretty sure they did that for the Adventurer's League, because you can only use the PHB +1 other official sourcebook.
lvl 6 Shadow Sorc in a Curse of Strahd game, Haven't had a chance to use my hound yet but so far I like all the thematic flavoring which fits well in Strahd.
Let that hound run!
Tyler Janssen what cleric would you multiclass with it for strahd? I'm a duergar and going to play it.
Divine soul is my favorite sorcerer because of its awesome healing and cleric spells for an mobile Extended/Distant sorcery builds that utilize some fun an amazing character.
I love Divine/Arcane crossovers too.
it's a cool concept but being basically only able to choose 15 out of soooo many spells intimidates me
First video I've seen from you but its pretty good. Good video quality, insightful, and fun to watch. Just subscribed man. Also, is it a prerequisite to have a majestic beard to be a DnD UA-camr?
Its an unspoken rule, actually. By speaking it you've invalidated it. Now I need to shave. (:
"And so it became known that he, Zachary Bolstad was indeed the Deus Machina that would bring about the ruin of the Bearded DM Empire"
Playing an awakened tree storm sorcerer who awoke do to the rain of a large storm mixing with a magical individual who died near its roots. Its super fun doing a whole bunch of aoe spells on enemies. It is also different because I am one of the tankiest characters even though normally sorcerers dont have too much health.
That's an awesome character definition :)
Thanks man! Playing it in a strahd game with a bunch of friends. Its been super fun!
Where are you getting the player race details for the awakened tree? Or is it homemade?
I am just using a homebrew treant build i found online. In creating my character, it was originally just a treant, but treants look more humanoid than they did trees. Im still using the features of a treant, but my character looks more like just a tree than a treant. The one thing that I home-made for my character is that he can transfer his consciousness to any part of its body. I did this because, as a tree, my character is over 12 feet tall, which really inhibits him from going into any doorway, so i made it has a feature that it can take a part of its plumage and make a little tumbleweed. I can use that tumbleweed to actually move instead of the main tree (which i would have to plant somewhere out of the way) and move around as a little tumbleweed. Of course the little tumbleweed form has a much lower strength and con, but a much better dex.
Thats a very cool addition Vortexx. Very creative.
They mention the shadowfell a lot in Xanathars.
They sure do pal. Wonder whats got them on such a Shadowfell kick these days. There are so many other worthy planes that should get attention.
Shadow Sorcerer/Rogue Assassin sounds great.
Dark, murderhappy, sign me up.
Ralek Kelar have you played it?
Sean Heath Nope lol
My next toon will be a protector Aasimar, shadow sorcerer. A mix of light and darkness. Or a combination of Marvel's Cloak and Dagger.
Nice duality, Jubes.
Congratulations on 100!!!!!!
Thanks Troy! Finally we have a username! No more unreadable url, now we're officially ua-cam.com/users/TitanBearGaming! Merry Xmas to us, haha.
I really like the Shadow Sorcerer.
Dragon Sorcerer has one unfair advantage over the other bloodlines. An ac boost out of the gate.
Huge bonus, that ac boost.
I really wanna see them add a blood mage sorcerer. You not only have magic in your blood but you can learn to manipulate the blood of other creatures. Think bloodbender from that episode of avatar the last air bender. It is pretty fucking terrifying.
I am so glad you read this because I want to mutil my cleric, and since she was blessed by her deity and blasted a demon with divine light, she chose to be a cleric but a divine soul actually suits her more. If she is a divine soul it can really help boost my heals and it makes sense.
Yeah Divine Soul got me thinking what if you divine source is of the Opposite alignment Chaotic Good with a Lawful Evil Planer Ancestor/Affinity
Or a Tiefling who eventually gets angel wings.
I believe it was in Sword Coast page 136 for Storm Scorcerer
Really like your stuff ,great screen presence
Also you look a lot like the character David from Travelers .
Thanks Shane - I can totally see what you mean. Welcome to the adventure party!
They need to make the Phoenix Sorcerous origin official... I think that was the one I was most looking forward to. Really disappointed they didn't follow throw with it :^(
A lot of folks feel like that was a missed opportunity. I'm sure it'll surface again :)
Hopefully sooner rather than later.
I really want to make a Half-Orc Conquest Paladin/Shadow Sorcerer. Not even death can conquer me.
Lean into that theme -- make a pseudonym 'The Unkillable', and take a banner of something death / blackness inclined. Channel the conqueror idea on an extra level by intentionally creating and spreading your reputation to the far reaches of the world.
Titan Bear Gaming thanks for the additional insight! I also like the added flavor Xanathar's gives for shadow sorcerer. I'll be specifically using the one where I barely bleed when injured so that I appear immortal to my enemies.
Great thematic element mate.
I have a storm sorcerer (has a level of tempest cleric, going to put on more in for max thunder/lightning damage channel divinity) who has their magic because a wizard used the imprisonment spell to create human weapons (sorcerers) by trapping powerful entities in thier souls as children. Storm sorcerers get their magic from elemental air so mine has a jinn in his soul
for divine soul do you have to have wings also if you were an aasimar than could you have 4 wings ?
Playing as an open hand monk, dipping 1 level into divine sorcerer around level 10 gives you a ton of flavor as well as access to staff of the magi which blows away 4 element monk.
Wild magic is fun though, but I'm the kind of guy who would beg the dm to just roll on the tables for every spell so... iunno.
Folks seem to have differing (and sometimes strong) opinions on whether its a DM roll or a player roll.
I'm playing my first ever campaign and picked wild magic sorcerer as my class and I'm loving it. I've almost turned into a sheep, had grease appear while fighting someone in a small room, randomly teleported and had a couple of other instances, so far all from having to roll because tides of chaos. My DM and I discussed it for my character and because in my back story my abilities tie a lot into the chaotic nature of things, I roll the d20 when needed but they roll anything on the surge table because my character is never quite sure what will happen. Once I'm level 14 and controlled chaos comes into play, he'll give me context clues like what energies I sense in relation to the surge and if I have felt them before or not.
I really like the cooperative element you have with your DM here. The concept of sensing ambient energies is really slick way to help the player feel more masterful of the character they've spent so many hours on, while still keeping to the mad-mage concept in theme. Love it shadowman21282.
Wild Magic Sorcerer is still my favorite class to play as in 5E
Joe M. Honestly, me too. When he said Wild Magic made most people become Dragon Sorcerers, I thought "No, it makes me pick Wild Magic all the time!"
I'm making a shadow sorc with hex warlock as my 2nd class. It's basically a bootleg Kayne from league of legends. Shadow walk is like kayne's ultimate cause he steps into their shadows. Umbral form is like kayne's walking through the terran his e. Plus he pretty much is taken over and changes his form cause of his scythe aka pact weapon. I didn't notice how much alike the character I was making was to the league character. But yeah I'm going 14 into sorc and 6 into warlock.
Divine Soul- Your parent fucked a god
Shadow- You are darkness incarnate, casting spells alongside your dark poetry
Storm- Thunder! Oh whoooaa! Thunder! Oh whoooaa! Thunder! Oh whoooaa! THUNDER!
Would a aasimar Divine Soul sorcerer be redundant?
I have been interested in a Tiefling Shadow Sorcerer whos Lawful good, thoughts?
I wish the water soul or any of the other UA souls get a chance.
I too agree that the Sorcerous Origins need some help in letting the lesser-used origins come forward a bit in use.
I was really hoping that Phoenix Sorcerer would've made it in.
I think I'll just choose Divine Soul and play it off as a Phoenix
That would work :)
I'd like to see you put together a shadowcaster.
You make a good vid on 5E content. Enjoyed 👍
I love the Shadow Sorcerer's quirks but I don't think they're thematically in-line with the abilities.
Oh yea? What different thematic element would you aim for?
The quirks gave me the impression that the character would seem almost undead in certain aspects. I would have liked it to be a kind of sorcerer's equivalent to the necromancer. Not to shamelessly plug, but I made a homebrew Sorcererous origin that I felt was more in line with what I expected form the Shadow Sorcerer after reading the quirk table. (for those interested: homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/B1svJiwHG)
I heard about a sorcerer that are created by night hags . The child is given back to the parents , but if the Night Hag does not complete some sort of ritual . The child becomes a sorcerer ( only females , with raven black hair ) . I cannot find this Sorcerer origin anywhere though.
my pc plan is to create a monk/divine soul multiclass protector assimar. it'd be so cool!
Very rich character idea RobDogg!
Just found your vids. Love them!
Thanks Thomas! Welcome to the party.
What cleric would you multiclass a shadow duergar sorcerer with, for the Storm Kings Thunder book? Thanks
I've been wanting to make a Warforged Sorcerer, based on Xerath from League of Legends.
And I'm torn between Draconic Bloodline, mostly for the innate Mage Armor and extra HP they get..
And Storm Sorcerer, because that all feels pretty damn 'powerful magus' to me. Being able to just nope rain from touching you? That's pretty fricken powerful for any peasant that sees it!
I certainly appreciate the Storm Sorcerer thematically for Xerath.
That's how I feel about it, and why I'm so torn on the matter.
I've also considered Stone Sorcerer from the UA, for the 13+Con formula for AC. I'll just make one of the Spells Known Mage Armor, and use the Warlock slot that I have for the character interpretation that I've made for him to cast that at the start of the day, then take a short rest while the rest is waking up to replenish my spent slot.
Sounds well thought out, amigo. I like those options better than forcing the Draconic bloodline, just for the defensive bonuses.
Well, Draconic would also get me Charisma modifier to my Lightning damage, since that's what I'd wanna focus on.
Hence my looking into Storm Sorcerer.
And I do a great deal of theorycrafting on characters I want to play.
I currently have about 6 character ideas in varying states of readiness to be played.. And about 10 or so more that I haven't statted out, but are pretty solid ideas for me to work from.
My general MO for character creation is come up with an idea, or a character from a game or movie that I'd like to play as.. Then refine the character to do what I want it to do, and how to get the basic idea online as soon as possible.
A character idea that needs to be level 15 before it does what I want it to, is not worth playing. Since most games never get past level 12.
Great video, new sub here. If you were to roll a rogue, which would you choose ?
Mastermind. I think granting advantage to an ally through a bonus action every round could be put to great benefit.
Hey Alex.. Im DMing a table and it allways hapens to me that even if my players say that some Sorcerer Origin sounds like so much fun, they end up choosing a Wizard becouse they fell it better in a mecanical sense.. I looked over and over in the internet for a rework of the class that would make it even to the Wizard, but I havent found anything that convince me.. I would love to see you adressing this problem and see if you find a good way!! Im realy enjoining your videos, thanks!!
I hear this a lot about Sorc in 5e, Santiago. Its a tough problem to crack. One easy change to Sorc that I find useful is to make it so Sorcs can learn new spells the same way as a Wizard, by finding them in the world. Since Sorcs are innately magical, they should be able to exert themselves toward casting an unknown spell, and once they figure it out they add it to their spells known. Use your discretion for how quickly/often you choose to do this. Bridging the breadth of wizard spell options with Sorc metamagic goes a long way toward making it viable as a player option.
Yep.. this looks like a cool idea.. I would make them try to recognice the spell that some other arcain caster is casting and if they are able to do it then they may use some sorcery points (depending of the lvl of the spell) to engrave it in their memory.. sounds good, interesting and funny.. and it cleary enforces the theme of the sorcerer!! Ill try it at the table!! thank you Alex!
You're welcome pal, nice incorporation of the sorcery points in the process. Let me know how it goes :)
@@TitanGamingTV I would probably add to the Sorcery points cost (since you regain those points) with an XP cost a little costlier than for a wizard. So you'd be able to learn new spells but would level a bit slower.
So I just got a thought... shadow sorcerous guardian aasimar
I like your videos btw!! Subbed and liked. Do you have a favorite from Xanathars guide?
I quite like the new Ranger options, I think players will find all of those new options to be intriguing and rewarding in gameplay. Plus the Ranger really needed some love, class definition wise, so its some water for the thirsty in a sense. Second would be the new Sorcerer options, for similar reasons :)
My character came from another universe he was a God of "shadows" so would him being a Shadow sorcerer kinda make sense? (Note he is not evil)
Yea that or divine soul
@@goldengaruda8935 ye
Could you combine Runechild with oh Storm Sorcerer?
Unfortunately, both are Archetypes, so it would have to be a houserule.
Love home rules.
I think the strength of the undying thing is great at early levels when the sorcerer is kind of week as it is. Considering you get it at level 1 I feel like it is actually great and it is ok if you scale out of it by later portions of the game. The hound is basically a Heighten spell that allows you to ALSO use careful spell or another meta magic along side it like twin or Careful or subtle spell if you want which frees you up to take the other meta magic abilities which is great because you REALLY want meta magic stuff. Also can you Imagine Hold Person + Hound of Ill Omen, Disadvantage on saving throws + auto crits from your hound because of paralysis ...... Also since there is no limit on the hound you can theoretically summon 2 of them and Dire wolves have access to pack tactics giving each of your hounds of ill omen advantage on their attacks.
I think Hound of Ill Omen adds a lot of possibility to the archetype -- nice pairing with Hold Person :)
So handsome. Just saying.
Thanks mwsnail :P Welcome to the adventure!
Thanks! I've played AD&D and Pathfinder for a long time and am eager to try 5e.
Its a pretty strong ruleset -- power of gameplay through simplification. Not easy to achieve, but WOTC somehow managed. Feel free to ask questions here, on socials, or on discord :)
Correction; 2 new. Storm was featured in SCAG. Wizard is just being lazy.
It is interesting what they consider 'core' material -- results in funny reprints like this.
Hmmmmmmmmm, so would an Archfey sorcerer be considered a divine soul sorcerer?????
Good video and info but I'm sorry I can't get past the vocal fry
What's funny is when a character class is overplayed in other games, the makers try to balance it. Not this game though! Instead a majority of the new sub-classes are based off of the most played classes imbalancing the game even more. Greeeeat; why should people play wizards again? They took away bonus languages based off of intelligence, they made them total glass cannons and they made only one subclass which is basically a rogue-wizard (ie war wizard). Why are there not more summoners, or necromancers that wear armour? When you google necromancer over half of the images are wearing armour; how is that mechanic still not built into D&D?
Y'know these are great Q's, Raven. I think for now it's a casualty of WOTC trying to drive new directions forward for their game, which does mean leaving some things behind that people actually appreciated but didnt fit with the new vision. I think Wizard is going to be one of the first areas that gets some attention when WOTC digs in to change the magic system. They've really painted themselves into a corner with Wizard archetypes -- they can't release anything significant without severely overpowering the other classes. Complicated stuff.
I agree, I just think that DEX is now the go to stat as it is useful in virtually any situation while INT is now only useful to wizards predominantly and has very little real-world application (and even for wizards it's quite limited). Additionally, they keep downplaying the wizard by making a class that is too physically weak to want to play.
What I think they should do for starters is make a class called something like "Battle Necromancer" which is a purist necromancy based wizard type class which gets the starting martial proficiencies of a Paladin (ie can wear all types of armour, can use a shield, etc), give it a fighting style like the Paladin at level 2, and then make a majority of new spells aimed at augmenting its fighting capabilities. This still wouldn't make the necromancer as strong as a paladin in close-quarters combat, as it would still have the HP of a wizard (1D6 compared to 1D10) however, it would increase the appeal of making a sort of summoner that fights alongside the creatures they summon. If they gave a class like that abilities that protect or grant advantage to summons in close range (similar to the protection fighting style of the paladin, but with spells that enhance this aspect) they would have a new class that people would want to play that isn't overpowered. A wizard at the end of the day is still a glass no matter how you look at it, but there are ways of making it a more fun class to play.
Anyway, I love D&D regardless; I just love the wizard but hate how linear they've made the wizard's play style. I can think of 5 other types of wizards that would similarly not be overpowered yet would be fun to play; another fun type would a wizard that specializes in making golem/artifact creature based summons. In any case don't take this as a jab against your video by the way; I like your content. I just thought I'd mention it, since it's been one of the observations I've made regarding Xanathar's guide to everything.
Don't worry you aren't risking offense :) I love the spirited conversation. Welcome to the party, Raven.
Thanks TBG; I'm glad to be part of the party. :-) I'm enjoying your videos; I hope you keep making content. Cheers!
If you want a heavily-armored martial necromancer, be an Eldritch Knight and take Necromancy spells. It'll take a while to actually amass an undead horde for your deathknight to lead (since Animate Dead itself is 3rd level) but slashing an enemy and then following up with Toll The Dead, or opening combat with Ray of Enfeeblement are nice tricks for a front-line fighter.
If you want a little less martial prowess and a lot more necromantic options, there's always a Death Domain cleric: medium armor, martial weapons, shields, and all the necromancy on the cleric list. If you have to rock full plate, it's only one feat away,
Decent commentary but the bit complaining about physical manifestations (marks, extra toe etc) just came across as being painfully ignorant, because those exact traits are taken from real world myth about what marks someone out as a 'magic-user'. Extra digits, especially, appears in folklore across most of the world to denote some form of being touched by gods, demons or devils. Maybe be more accepting, or at least do a tiny amount of research, next time.
No offense was intended toward the one-eyed, six-toed magic-using community.
@@TitanGamingTV Funny thing is that in ye olden days, those signs were used as excuses to shun or outright abuse/kill people, so maybe it still isn't the best choice of things to use. Me, I'd use things that don't follow normal human mutations, like abnormally pigmented skin or hair or eyes, glowy auras, that kind of thing. When having an extra toe could lead to your hanging for being a "witch", well...
I created a dragonborn sorcerer(draconic origin) acolyte who thought that his magical abilities were given to him at birth by the gods.
Love it.
Titan Bear Gaming Thanks.