Over-filtration? Running Multiple Filters on African Cichlid Tanks
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2017
- A short video discussing over-filtering, and why I choose to do it on some of my tanks.
Here is the link to the excellent video by Aquarium Co op on filtration for a deeper exploration of filtration options: • Freshwater Aquarium Fi...
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Thank you for sharing your insight regarding filtration. I'm a big believer in over filtering, my 210 peacock & hap tank has six filters running. I use an Eheim 2262, Aquatop canister, 2 X lg sponge filters and 2 AquaClear 110's. It may seem like overkill to some but my fish are happy and healthy, plus I have crystal clear water.
redjack56 Wow! You do have a lot! Haha! Thanks for watching!
That's genius! we're setting up a sump for the 180 we are getting up. There will definitely be extra sponge filters going in there now. Thank you!
Avy Aulonocara Thank you! Yes, keeping extra filters in the sump is an excellent way to have them ready.
On the 65 Gallon with 5 filters is amazing and the strategy your doing to grow them out with the frequent feeding is best way, way to go man! Definitely can listen to you talk all day I can not agree with your methods more. Thanks for sharing dude.
Deon 0026 Real talk Deon! Appreciate the support!
Loved the great info. Thanks for sharing. All tanks looking niiiiiice
Cichlid Soldier Thank you!
I'm obsessed with your big male acei in the first tank. 😍
Not only that one, those Yellow labs are also great.
I currently have some really bad strain of them and am very jealous of his.
Beautiful set ups
Hello Zenzo, I would have loved to have seen the wet/dry sumps you are running. Do you show them in a later video? I can see some of the fish in your grow-out that are now much bigger in a different tank.
Thanks for the info on this .
Oh and great info man as always
Thanks for another great vedio
Maybe I missed you say it in the video. But for an overstocked peacock tank how many times should you turn the tank over per hour?
I have a 65 g with a FX4 ,EMPEROR 400B . Its 1100 gph or almost x17 an hour. The fish 14 male peacocks they love it.
I use 2 aqua clear 110 on my 65 great video man ~!
David's Fish Tanks Thanks David!
Just found your channel. You provided a lot of good information. I subbed you.
+Cali Cichlid Man Thank you! Much appreciated!
The information i was looking for! My 65 starts to smell with 22 juvenile peacock. I guess i have to add one major filter!!😬😁
good info. great video.
YounG LiTo Thank you. I'm glad you found it informative!
Great video! Did you ever do a video on DIY backgrounds. I know you have mentioned that you have done them that way but I couldn't find a how to version.
Thank you. No, I never really made a video on how I made these backgrounds.
Where did you get your rocks in the 60 gal. With 5 filters?
Always watched your videos and realised i never subbed..there you go..quick question..i have 2 canister filters i am playing on running on my 75 bow front and was wondering if you have a pref on how the output pipes are placed..on the sane side or on seperate sides
I have a 60 gallon with just the 1 hob tidal 110. I use 2 sponges, large bag of bio rock, 2 carbon bags and 2 polishing pads. I only have about 9 mbunas and 2 small catfish that do a great job of cleaning the bottom. But it always seems that when I add any more fish, 2 and up dying. Check my water parameters and they're all good. My fish don't seem aggressive but I always spot the newbies, after about a week, will stop eating and hide until they die. How are you keeping so many fish without substantial aggression? Was also thinking about a 2nd tidal 110... Should I?
I am gonna have a ~85 gallon tank with aftican cichlids.
How many should I keep ?
How often should I feed ?
Can I use 2 hob filter ? Or it's necessary to use a canister filter? Or a sponge filter and hob filter.. any combo like that? Is a canister filter must?
Please tell me guys. Thanks a lot.
Hi Zenzo.. Excellent video.. you tanks are outstanding. I have over filtration as well on all my tanks. Yes I do believe you can over filter when it's not needed.. but I don't think it hurts to over filter as long as it doesn't blow your fish around. But that's another subject of agitation =D
DebTim A CANADIAN Girl Thanks Deb!
Hey I’m Charlie and trying to get my African cichlids tank set up right I have a new 75 gallon I have my cichlids in my 30 gallon right now how should I do my filter a canister filter or a hob filter and how many gallons per hour should I do my 75
Wondering If 2 Fluval FX4s would be overkill on a 75 gallon tank?
Great fish.
Great video man!
Phresh Phish Thank you!
I have a 40 gls tank and want to get some mbunas, how may do you suggest I start with and when to add more, you say max 15 fish total in a 40 gls, that's awesome. I have a 36 gls tank with tropical fish, but never had cichlids, looking at your videos and others to learn more!
Hi Mert. Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe to my channel if you have not yet had a chance. As far as your 40 gallon tank, yes, you can have around 15 or so Mbuna in there if you have really good filtration. i would suggest adding around 4-5 at a time in order to spread out the aggression. If the tank is well established and has a lot of filtration (with beneficial bacteria), you can add more than that at one time.
Mert Alan
Mbunas are big fish. I wouldn't put any in a 40.
It is definitely on the small end of the spectrum, but some Mbuna do not grow too large, and can thrive in a 40 if it is WELL filtered, and with the right mix of fish. I would recommend starting with at least a 55 gallon tank, but I have seen it done successfully (including by me) in 40s.
What’s a pacos plant?
Hi Zenzo, just going through your videos and I noticed at 08:33 those 2 pink peacocks with white lips that looks exactly like mine. Just curious if you know what they are. I picked one up at PetSmart from the assorted peacock tank and I have no clue what it is. Nothing on the internet can be found for a pink peacock with white lips. The fins are also a bit different from other peacocks. Dorsal and anal fins are very low from the front.
Dragon blood. Sometimes referred to as strawberry.
Tazawa Tanks I have dragon bloods. This one I’m talking about looks nothing like them. Here’s a video I made, ua-cam.com/video/8H5fpK4AlGw/v-deo.html, at 01:33, you’ll see the one I’m talking about.
Just another variant I believe. Probably a hybrid.
I have a question where did you get your rock backgrounds?
I made the one over my left shoulder, and the one on my right is from Universal Rocks.
Your 65 is only a grow out tank. I'm considering starting a 65 cichlids tank but for fish to live all their lives lol. What would you recommend?
IBernE Hey there, and thanks for watching and subscribing! The thing with a 65 gallon tank is that it doesn't have a very large footprint (it's only 36" long). Because of this, you will want to stick with Mbuna if you want to do African cichlids. I would say around 15-20 in a well-filtered 65 would work. There are other options as well, such as small Tanganyikan cichlids.
Hi I want to start a 190 gallon aquarium for grow out tank so how many 3" fish can I keep in it and what should be the filtration system
You can easily have anywhere from 30 to 50 without any issue. Lots of filtration choices. It depends on your preference and maintenance routine.
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Question when it comes to biological media filtration.
I know that lava rock can hold x amount of surface area & pot scrubbers can hold 2-3 more surface area then there's submerged & wet/dry filters with bio balls or pot scrubbers used.
Would are pros & cons of using submerged media in a canister compared with a wet dry filter or using K1 media in a fluadized bed?
I know that K1 media you have the steongest knock off the weaker ones but what does that really mean for average hobbyist?
Would one filter reduce nitrates from 30ppm to 10ppm ?
Or does K1 type media keep nitrates at a lower ranges for longer period of time say compared with lava rock or pot scrubbers etc.
Just curious, anyone?
Excellent questions Michael. I don't have any analytical data to support populations of beneficial bacteria, but here is what I can hypothesize:
In a wet/dry filter, the bacteria is benefited by the oxygenation process due to water trickling over them while exposed to air. In a canister, the water may be less oxygenated, but more surface area is covered because the pump is forcing the water through the media. In a wet/dry setup, the water goes through the path of least resistance, so all surface areas do not make contact with the water.
In a fluidized system, the water makes contact with all of the surface area of the media due to the motion. In addition, because of the movement, bacteria that is weak or dying are knocked off, leaving the stronger, more robust bacteria on the media to help filter nitrogenus pollutants.
Of the three, I believe that the fluidized system is the best. This is why you will find them in large, professional systems such as a public aquarium or commercial fishery.
Tazawa Tanks nice, keep posting your videos, awesome job!
All bio media is good.
IMO the main reason some prefer K1 media for larger tanks is it really takes a lot of K1 & you need that type of space for it either in a large sump or big plastic diy 55 gallon bin. So its not practical for smaller applications.
2nd, when typical sponges or ceramic noodles that are static clog faster compared with K1 that's fluidized & in constant state 9f movement knocking off old bacteria & detritus, "almost Self Cleaning" media.
Other than that its all good.
I watched a few videos where they used a very coarse sponge in corner of tank using small power head, called it a Matten Filter.
I've seen Rachael O'leary & others use it, its a fantastic bio media & only clean it "once a year" is priceless in the fish hobby.
I have a question for you. Do you define overfiltration by how many filters you have or by how much water your turning and surface area you have?
It could be both. It could be having multiple filters on a tank, or having a very large filter that moves a lot of water per hour. I prefer multiple in case one fails.
Gotcha.... the reason I asked is because I just started my 75 gallon peacock and Hap tank and I have this sponge filter/ powerhead build that’s doing very well. I’m getting the surface agitation, the biological, and the mechanical. I’m testing the water and everything is good and I have quite a few fish already. I want to add more. I’m like you with the water changes bro. The build is turning a lot of water though. So I had to asked myself was I over filtering. Its actually 2 high density sponges rated at 75 gallons each attached to a power head rated at 600 gph. I have similar set ups in other tanks coupled with hob filters. This is the first time I tried it by itself
If the powerhead fails I got a back up. They are very inexpensive
I have a 55 gallon tank,,currently running 2 marine land c220,,,over kill? my nitrates are at 80 ppm
I am a gallon per inch of fish guy. 🤷🏾♂️... I sometimes may go over, but by very little. I feed heavy in my opinion, because I want my fish fed...period. Testing+maintenance is the key...still, MY opinion. Works for me, so I stick to that routine.
I thought that I was over filtering my 220 gallon tank for my peacock cichlids. I have 3 fluval FX 6 ...I curently have 47 peacocks . I feed them twice a day with Northfin & New life Spectrum. Your video was very informative.
Mr. Darnell P. Felder Jr. Thanks Darnell! FX6s are probably one of the best filters on the market. I'm sure two would be just great for your 220, but nothing wrong with having that 3rd! Haha!
I've got 12 mbunas right now and I'm running 2 hang on the back filters. An aqua clear 70 and an old school tetra whisper 60. Still not enough.
Cool channel with very good information. You deserve more subs and views. I would suggest you to get better light and camera. With all the high resolution devices and high internet speed, people are so used to watching high quality videos these days. LED spot lights are really cheap and so are some of the good cameras. Good luck.
+Flakes Thanks for the feedback.
+Tazawa Tanks I should add that since this particular video was uploaded 4 months ago, I did get some lighting for filming, along with different camera equipment. Thanks again for supporting me! Much appreciated!
hey bro .can you tell me max number of African cichlid for 55 gallons
Sukhdeep Singh There are a couple of things that will determine this. I am assuming that you are doing Malawi Cichlids? Are you going to be stocking Mbuna or Peacocks? A 55 may be a little on the small side for some Peacocks. Definitely too small for Haps. Also, decorations, 3D backgrounds, etc will affect your capacity.
As far as Mbuna, with out too many rocks, maybe around 23-25 if you have very robust filtration and do high volume and frequent water changes. If you are doing Peacocks, maybe around 17-18. If you have a sump with a decent water volume, you can maybe add a couple of more.
Tazawa Tanks .thanks bro
Sukhdeep Singh Glad to help!
When picking a filter for a tank, there is 2 factor to consider, flowrate and media container. Overfiltration is just a waste, of electricity, you will only have a fix amoiunt of bacteria base on the load of the tank, if you more biomedia it wont help it, it will only may it harder for the bacteria to get food.
Joseph Dy While I agree with your point about flow rate and media, and that extra filtration may be wasteful, One thing that you should consider is if one system fails, or if you have to service one of the filters. Having two filters operating at 50% rather than one at 100% allows for more flexibility and options, including starting another tank and having an established colony of beneficial bacteria in a filter. Great points though! Thanks for watching!
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Mine love it at 750gph on a 50 gallon.
Sir i watch ur video often and i follow u. But currently i got interested into african chichlids. But i am not from Europe so the big chichlids are Very expensive so i can't afford the big malawi chichlids. So i have to buy 2 inch chichlid. So to make them grow faster i have setup a 3500L canisters filter and also a 6500L per hour sump filter in my 40g breeder Tank. Nd i want to Have 15-20 chichlids in the Tank. So i would feed 4 time a day basically super feeding. So i was thinking is the filteration is enough. I'll be changing the water every 2 days . Ple let me know. 🙂