I really think Melusi should be able to toss her gadget in the exact same arc that Ram gets to throw her Buggi. allowing melusi to be able to place it slightly out of melee range and allowing her to be just slightly more diverse. plus it would purely just speed up her deployment time and allow her to save some time during the prep phase which as a 3 armour would always help. plus placing on the angled ceiling of stairs would be such a nice melusi spot.
I hear you about clash, had a ranked solo q game on bank and for basement we had a clash with insane callouts who helped us hold server from a 3 man rush.
Not to mention can deal with maisto cams on his own As a solo qué player I honestly think fuze for util clear on basement sites can be amazing The pint of black cams I've accidently destroyed is amazing and with a hard breach charge to grab hatches Big beefy russian is my true love
@@FHGryphonIRL i dont really care what his rating was i didnt even watch the video. I just saw a comment talking about fuze and i said fuze takes no skill.. Theres plenty of other operators id say the same about i just didnt see them mentioned
I think my least favorite part of deimos, is that first 10’seconds or so that i cant see deimos but he sees me. I see more doc and ash then anything this season
Echo will forever be A for me, I only play him on theme park because holding those halways with him is so easy, on other places I don't play with him, he might be good but there's better picks but when it works nobody is getting past him.
For me I love having his drones in drone holes and accounting out pushes for my lurkers If you have a good stick I feel like timing concussion before gun fights is pretty easy and he counters all shields too Feel like he got done dirty - just shotty did get needed though sadly
I personally believe that Jackal just needs his breach charges back and he is the only one who can see his pings + he needs his headset active, so solis can see if he is tracking for a counter.
I’ve agreed with everything up until the maestro point. I think he’s only able to be put anywhere near “must pick” when dokk or brava is banned. Coz while there’s only 2 ops that truely counter him one of those ops (dokk) is a must pick if she’s not banned she’s being played. And if you see a maestro brava is an insta pick. And unless the maestro is just sitting in cams the whole round (which isn’t likely) to any degree then his until is just meh (if one of the counters are being picked)
Agreed on maestro. You get so much value out of his cams it's crazy. Feels like he can turn site into a fortress all by himself. Why is Oryx in garbage and not situational though? Did I miss something or is it solely because of Dokk being played every round?
I know I have no room to talk about a tierlist when the guy who ranked is one of, if not the best r6 player eve butI think smoke should be above average. The plays you can make with smoke can make or break a round. Pengu your the goat man
The only advantage Jager has over Wamai is that he can play off sight whilst still having utility on site. This is why I understand that he doesn’t have an acog as a lot of off sight players have lost their zoomed scope. Jager should at least get a secondary shotty and potentially acog.
Also if you bring back cooking frags (without kill potential through the ground) you will buff characters like Jager whilst also buffing sledge, Ianna,mav,rook,
It's sad to see Echo in the trash can. I can remember echo was in every lineup and when was S Tier. Ash Used to be S Tier. Ela has S Tier for a little but. Alot of these OPS have had some time in the S Tier. Hibana was S, Mira was S Tier. Thatcher, Jackal. Jager. Valk. Smoke. Sledge. Times change though and sadly sometimes those ops that lived in the spotlight are now living under a bridge wondering what went wrong. Someone should do a video om these OPS and go over what changed over time and why they are no longer S Tier
Valk > Maestro, as you said Valk cams are harder to find and imo having intel on enemies without them knowing that you have that intel is one of the most valuable things in Siege
The only reason to bring a zof, is in place of ying. Cause warden gets countered by zofs stun but that's it. Her gun is mid, her impacts are mid, her secondary gadgets are horrible, and her armor/speed is depressing.
Ffs, pretty much all recent defenders were really strong(Azami, Solis, Fenrir, Tubarao before nerfs), and all recent attackers are mediocre at best(Brava, Deimos, Sens).
5:05 its like I've been saying this to apex players that whine about p2w sights for years when it covers the bottom 10% of your screen under where you should be aiming
Just played the new season for the first time yesterday, haven’t played in a few seasons. I love the new update but the new ads speed is still weird to get used to. Definitely just a skill issue
I used to main fuze, I still stand by him because of how you need to use his gadget now, his objective should always be anti utility and always has been, floor destruction was always secondary. plus he has an amazing weapon loadout so he can frag out if need be. pengu I thought you of all people would know at least that about my boy, still love the content tho and I wanna know why you think fuze is utter garbage.
He can be useful for destroying utility IF it's a bottom floor bomb site. Anywhere else its not very good. Not only that bit their are better operators to pick that can play vertically and/or destroy utility. He's a meme pick
@@madanalym4165windows on second floors and his gadget can pen reinforced walls. I think fuze is still one of the best at util clear and will continue to be for a very long time. you just need to think like a fuze player to grasp the genius of his gadget man.
I would put fuze in c atleast, i play him alot in diamond and when paired with good communication he can destroy pretty much all utility (if you can fuze from above)
I would say i disagree on fuze, he csn be extremely useful to clear utility on almost any bomb site, and is extremly good in post plant. Everything esle is a thumbs up for the most part
1. fenrir shouldn’t have five mines. 2. They should not be bullet proof. Why does Ela only have three mines that are not Bullet proof. Fenrir has a better gun and stronger gadget on top of having more.
@@FHGryphonIRL mind tricks, I use iana clone to trick clash that I'm going to another room then I'm going to cancel my drone, it's pretty effective unless they know I'm a clone. You can also use nitro cell or grenade
The only one I disagree with is capitao. If your like me and you suck at recoil control an opp with a great gun and smoke+fire is a godsend. I suck at shooting so I have to outbrain people in plat-emerald lobbies and capitao makes that possible. I think he's a tier almost broken.but who am I to say lol
No sens is 3 speed and if played with a team can be very good also let me add sens with ying is a crazy combo sens should be played with your tm8s to be useful at all if not shes useless almost
I agree, it is bad in my opinion, he made some great points here and there but did an offset by being completely wrong. Kapkan more often than not, in any ranked Tier, he is good. Because he is passively good, even if you die, you are mostly useful if you are half-way decent in putting the traps. Counters people that rush, people that are sneaky and have to destroy it and make sound, or if the attackers messed up by wasting time and at the end they just go in and die, he is almost S tier for me. Rook also objectively isn't utter garbage, he is Average to A tier, according the win rate; His win rate is great, great guns and Acog. Ela's gun isn't bad at all she is almost S tier for me, it is good if you burst it, and for close quarters you can go full auto. Nomad's gadget is downright op at times. She is average to A. Edit: I genuinely think that proplay is different, he is probably right there, but not in normal ranked.
Zero main here: NOT putting him next to Valk in the tier list is criminal...He's her, but WAY more flexible. The ability for the choice of flipping it(EVEN THROUGH REINFORCEMENTS), AND it has the ability to do 1 zap to clear wall denial or many other gadgets....hes a MUST in my books
There was a point in which you said "Azami is great, S tier, she has good guns..." but then you said Kapkan's gun is bad because it has no ACOG... but they have the same gun so which one is it.@@PenguDZ
Seeing how many Op icons there are, we've come such a long way holy...
I know... also love those shorts my guy ;)
@@PenguDZ Much love Mr Pengu 🖤🤍
The operator screen used to be so empty
And yet everybody is complaining about only 2 operators for Y9. Like, I already have a hard time choosing, there are so many!
Don’t act like it’s a good thing, 90% of the ops they’ve added have had a negative impact on the game
I really think Melusi should be able to toss her gadget in the exact same arc that Ram gets to throw her Buggi. allowing melusi to be able to place it slightly out of melee range and allowing her to be just slightly more diverse. plus it would purely just speed up her deployment time and allow her to save some time during the prep phase which as a 3 armour would always help. plus placing on the angled ceiling of stairs would be such a nice melusi spot.
you want a melusi buff?
It really makes me sad how bad echo and jager are right now. I love them to death but they got shafted in the new patch
Yeah. Give these too an ACOG and I think that would be significant. And maybe buff Jaeger's gadget with more usage like it did before or something.
echo is still very good shotgun and bearings 9 is so underrated
I still can't believe they gave an ACOG to Goyo, but didn't give it to Echo lol
@@ascherkasSame with Wamai, hes been the better Jager for years and still gets so much love from the devs and Jager gets none
Siege balance team did such a bad job on this, operators and guns shouldn't keep nurfing and nurfing
Blue Recruit S Tier,
Green Recruit B Tier,
Orange Recruit C Tier,
Red Recruit A Tier,
Yellow Recruit Upper Garbage
why is blue better then red thats racist
o.O
I hear you about clash, had a ranked solo q game on bank and for basement we had a clash with insane callouts who helped us hold server from a 3 man rush.
I think fuse should be situational. He’s really good at destroying utility in many bomb sites and he also as soft breach/hard breach.
Not to mention can deal with maisto cams on his own
As a solo qué player I honestly think fuze for util clear on basement sites can be amazing
The pint of black cams I've accidently destroyed is amazing and with a hard breach charge to grab hatches
Big beefy russian is my true love
@@reelgesh51 absolutely and if you want to make a push into site then fuze is so good at making defenders move.
Fuze is stupid af takes no skill to go dunk dunk dunk and shoot 10 grenades into a room that can kill you through soft walls with full hp nah fam..
@@Kyle....................wouldn’t you want him higher up then? I’m confused
@@FHGryphonIRL i dont really care what his rating was i didnt even watch the video. I just saw a comment talking about fuze and i said fuze takes no skill.. Theres plenty of other operators id say the same about i just didnt see them mentioned
i love that everytime i see your videos, there’s always comments that you reply to (: from an og nooter
I really love talking to you guys! Its that time isnt on my side most of the day 💛
These tier lists are all over the place lol
I cant tell if this guy plays in high rank or doesn't even play the game.
@@VSN-wb2lybrother he is a 2 time world champion and now caster…
23:35 Why'd you skip Osa, my main? 😢
Ah yes its the editor's fault here, sadly the footage somehow got corrupt around that time. We'll get em next time 🙏
@PenguDZ I figured haha, no worries Pengu. I really look forward to your end of season operator list! You did great on this one!
I think my least favorite part of deimos, is that first 10’seconds or so that i cant see deimos but he sees me. I see more doc and ash then anything this season
?? that goes for both sides tho
this simply isn’t a thing lmao. you see each other for the first time at the same time…
Echo will forever be A for me, I only play him on theme park because holding those halways with him is so easy, on other places I don't play with him, he might be good but there's better picks but when it works nobody is getting past him.
For me I love having his drones in drone holes and accounting out pushes for my lurkers
If you have a good stick I feel like timing concussion before gun fights is pretty easy and he counters all shields too
Feel like he got done dirty - just shotty did get needed though sadly
@@reelgesh51 he did get done dirty, his drones should still have active camo
@@fantasticfail1796crazy
Started convulsing at the echo placement
I personally believe that Jackal just needs his breach charges back and he is the only one who can see his pings + he needs his headset active, so solis can see if he is tracking for a counter.
I’ve agreed with everything up until the maestro point. I think he’s only able to be put anywhere near “must pick” when dokk or brava is banned. Coz while there’s only 2 ops that truely counter him one of those ops (dokk) is a must pick if she’s not banned she’s being played. And if you see a maestro brava is an insta pick. And unless the maestro is just sitting in cams the whole round (which isn’t likely) to any degree then his until is just meh (if one of the counters are being picked)
I think Doc's secondary shotgun puts him above Melusi (especially for ranked)
Agreed on maestro. You get so much value out of his cams it's crazy. Feels like he can turn site into a fortress all by himself.
Why is Oryx in garbage and not situational though? Did I miss something or is it solely because of Dokk being played every round?
As an almost brave main I shall cackle manically 😂 ...
Watching a maisto impact his own cams because I've hacked them never gets old
I know I have no room to talk about a tierlist when the guy who ranked is one of, if not the best r6 player eve butI think smoke should be above average. The plays you can make with smoke can make or break a round. Pengu your the goat man
The only advantage Jager has over Wamai is that he can play off sight whilst still having utility on site. This is why I understand that he doesn’t have an acog as a lot of off sight players have lost their zoomed scope. Jager should at least get a secondary shotty and potentially acog.
Also if you bring back cooking frags (without kill potential through the ground) you will buff characters like Jager whilst also buffing sledge, Ianna,mav,rook,
Give Jager a deployable shield and an acog
A shield ? I think impact nades is better
It's sad to see Echo in the trash can.
I can remember echo was in every lineup and when was S Tier.
Ash Used to be S Tier. Ela has S Tier for a little but. Alot of these OPS have had some time in the S Tier. Hibana was S, Mira was S Tier. Thatcher, Jackal. Jager. Valk. Smoke. Sledge.
Times change though and sadly sometimes those ops that lived in the spotlight are now living under a bridge wondering what went wrong.
Someone should do a video om these OPS and go over what changed over time and why they are no longer S Tier
Valk > Maestro, as you said Valk cams are harder to find and imo having intel on enemies without them knowing that you have that intel is one of the most valuable things in Siege
Actually the best list ive seen
God tier video, from a god tier player and a god tier student and teacher of the game. Thank you❤
just came back into siege and see that all my favorite operators are garbage now, what a shame
The only reason to bring a zof, is in place of ying. Cause warden gets countered by zofs stun but that's it. Her gun is mid, her impacts are mid, her secondary gadgets are horrible, and her armor/speed is depressing.
Chat really tryna argue with one of, if not, the goat in pro league lol
Couldn't agree more about Deimos, sad that we didn't get a strong attacker especially considering we're not going get many new ops this season
Ffs, pretty much all recent defenders were really strong(Azami, Solis, Fenrir, Tubarao before nerfs), and all recent attackers are mediocre at best(Brava, Deimos, Sens).
for real, we needed a really good attacker
@@togirainoka654last good attack was grim but bro is so situational
You should have done left to right = best to worst, as well
Pengu dashing decent ops that he wants buffs for
5:05 its like I've been saying this to apex players that whine about p2w sights for years when it covers the bottom 10% of your screen under where you should be aiming
Has absolutely nothing to do w what he said lmao not even relatable remotely
What are you on aboht
Just played the new season for the first time yesterday, haven’t played in a few seasons. I love the new update but the new ads speed is still weird to get used to. Definitely just a skill issue
i put on lasers cause someone in chat told me it increases ads speed, and felt much better coming back after hiatus
With cav I think the map varies like she is good on kanal and challat but others than that I would not use her
what attacker should I unlock with 9k or should I save and if I should who for (already have ace and gridlock)
For bravo rework make the gadget be deployed in prep phase
I used to main fuze, I still stand by him because of how you need to use his gadget now, his objective should always be anti utility and always has been, floor destruction was always secondary. plus he has an amazing weapon loadout so he can frag out if need be. pengu I thought you of all people would know at least that about my boy, still love the content tho and I wanna know why you think fuze is utter garbage.
He can be useful for destroying utility IF it's a bottom floor bomb site.
Anywhere else its not very good.
Not only that bit their are better operators to pick that can play vertically and/or destroy utility.
He's a meme pick
@@madanalym4165windows on second floors and his gadget can pen reinforced walls. I think fuze is still one of the best at util clear and will continue to be for a very long time. you just need to think like a fuze player to grasp the genius of his gadget man.
Play buck then, much more usefull
@@VSN-wb2ly nah, the only reason I play buck is the DMR. and even then the AK12 is just that much better and I can still play as a flex as fuze.
@@mbgmadbull1141 I'd play doka if I want DMR
Solis is such a mistake of an op dude, I prep my fucking drone to get into building just for a solis to b line towards my drone and destroy it
Interesting very different opinions from FoxA and Athieno.
I'm more inclined to playing Ela due to shields being more popular in the current meta.
I would put fuze in c atleast, i play him alot in diamond and when paired with good communication he can destroy pretty much all utility (if you can fuze from above)
Who let bro cook
Not a single word was uttered for Oryx (his name not even pronounced), it’s like utter garbage was literally his own definition!
I would say i disagree on fuze, he csn be extremely useful to clear utility on almost any bomb site, and is extremly good in post plant.
Everything esle is a thumbs up for the most part
1. fenrir shouldn’t have five mines. 2. They should not be bullet proof. Why does Ela only have three mines that are not Bullet proof. Fenrir has a better gun and stronger gadget on top of having more.
W tierlist
Clash over Mute and Castle is a W?
@@techs2996how you countering clash? If she hides prep phase you’re fucked
@@FHGryphonIRL mind tricks, I use iana clone to trick clash that I'm going to another room then I'm going to cancel my drone, it's pretty effective unless they know I'm a clone.
You can also use nitro cell or grenade
@@FHGryphonIRLimpact emps for one but you got a point
Azami "great gun"
He then gets to kapkan with same SMG and says "bad gun"......ummm.....ya lost me there. Stopped watching after that
Lmao best montie and blitz player arguably ever… says he does not like pistols hahaha
Get this man in a 1v1 against jynxzi already
pengu you are best player you are my idol
The only one I disagree with is capitao. If your like me and you suck at recoil control an opp with a great gun and smoke+fire is a godsend. I suck at shooting so I have to outbrain people in plat-emerald lobbies and capitao makes that possible. I think he's a tier almost broken.but who am I to say lol
No sens is 3 speed and if played with a team can be very good also let me add sens with ying is a crazy combo sens should be played with your tm8s to be useful at all if not shes useless almost
Holo take was a bad take. Having peripheral vision is big
#bring back old echo i didn't even play echo but its kinda sad to see echo hurting this bad
Azami's gun is really good, but Kapkan's isn't bc he has no zoom scope? wtf hahah
Kapkans ability is mid and azamis is arguably the best in the game, just cuz they have the same gun does not make kapkan viable
I think most people use shotgun on Azami anyway
I’m so mad you did not do recruit😡
This is the exact reason why i dislike tier lists bro mozzie in garbage???? and echo bro what???
why is lion and kapkan C?
He had a few games where he played with/against those ops and they didn't do anything
what is this tier list
This tierlist isn’t perfect… Kaplan is definitely above average.
I agree, it is bad in my opinion, he made some great points here and there but did an offset by being completely wrong. Kapkan more often than not, in any ranked Tier, he is good. Because he is passively good, even if you die, you are mostly useful if you are half-way decent in putting the traps. Counters people that rush, people that are sneaky and have to destroy it and make sound, or if the attackers messed up by wasting time and at the end they just go in and die, he is almost S tier for me.
Rook also objectively isn't utter garbage, he is Average to A tier, according the win rate; His win rate is great, great guns and Acog.
Ela's gun isn't bad at all she is almost S tier for me, it is good if you burst it, and for close quarters you can go full auto.
Nomad's gadget is downright op at times. She is average to A.
Edit: I genuinely think that proplay is different, he is probably right there, but not in normal ranked.
Zero main here: NOT putting him next to Valk in the tier list is criminal...He's her, but WAY more flexible. The ability for the choice of flipping it(EVEN THROUGH REINFORCEMENTS), AND it has the ability to do 1 zap to clear wall denial or many other gadgets....hes a MUST in my books
Anyone knows the best Muuzzle?
high level player mostly put flash hider but some specific guns run comp
Nomad below average is crazy
I would say.. This is pretty accurate, yeah. (I haven't started the video yet)
Beaulo : Jackal is better. And I agree with him.
Most of this opp has been nerf because cry babys pro player!
I'm gonna be honest shittiest tier list I've ever seen about r6
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Gotta specify more than that ;)
WHY.?
There was a point in which you said "Azami is great, S tier, she has good guns..." but then you said Kapkan's gun is bad because it has no ACOG... but they have the same gun so which one is it.@@PenguDZ
@@rodelalcazar is that why the the hole tier list is shit
i think some one that play pro leauge so long and now cast it he is pretty spot on only smoke i think is above avg
Gridlock>Nomad 🤷🏻♂️
Definitely, her ability is so much better
@@ethanmcneal3871
i think i still prefer nomad because 2 speed and flashes
such a dumb tierlist
hell nah
Lets gooo
Terrible list
Shaiiko better
Wow I'm early