No one conducts Delius like Beecham. This is the first piece of Delius I remember as a child,I would close my eyes and paint pictures in my mind,many years later as an artist I painted those pictures again;this time with brushes and paint. Now later still I can close my eyes and make pictures again whenever I hear this lovely piece
DELIUS CHOSE TO NOT HAVE GOD IN HIS LIFE, AND IN FACT HATED GOD, AS A VERY OUTSPOKEN ATHEIST, NOT SURE IF HE IS "RESTING" AS YOU PRAY FOR, SINCE HE MAY BE IN A VERY HEATED SITUATION, THE ONLY REST HE MAY HAVE, WHERE HIS NOW, MAY BE THE GLORIOUS MUSIC GOD GAVE HIM, BUT HE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO IT FOR ANY KIND OF COMFORT.........GOD GAVE HIM THE OPTION, (AS HE DOES FOR ALL OF US) FOR MAKING USE OF THE NON-SMOKING SECTION, OR THE SMOKING SECTION, WAY OVER YONDER, AND I AM SURE IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT DELIUS UNFORTUNATELY DECIDED ON THE LATER........
How can one hate that in which s/he does not believe? Could his hatred, perhaps, have been for the judgmental, self-righteous piety against which the namesake of the Christian faith inveighed and that sometimes drives myopic zealots to outrageous actions? /// One of Delius's unpleasant experiences of childhood and youth was being grilled by his rigidly unbending father over Sunday lunch about what the minister had said in the church service earlier in the day. Sometimes he was beaten when he could not give a satisfactory answer. I can think of few if any ways more likely to drive from both religion and personal spirituality an intelligent, sensitive youngster. Add to that the view that Delius developed of his father as a harshly authoritarian and unloving individual, then transfer that to the God-the-Father concept, and the alienation and embitterment almost surely were complete. /// No doubt Delius also was the recipient of numerous threats of eternal damnation from others once he "came out" regarding his beliefs, or rather the lack thereof. Far from changing the mind of an intelligent, thinking person, such threats accomplish nothing other than further alienating him or her and convincing that person of the threatening individual's insecurity in his or her faith. /// The God in whom I believe surely would have understood all this, would not have felt threatened by Delius's views, would not have sought to penalize him infinitely for finite acts, and would have taken into account all the beauty that he left the world through his music, thereby making it a better place in the process.
YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY QUITE INTELLIGENT, AND MAKE SOME GREAT POINTS, BUT NO ONE, REPEAT, NO ONE, NOT EVEN SOME GENIUS ON THE LEVEL OF A DELIUS, IS WITH ANY EXCUSE FOR NOT DEALING WITH GOD, IN FACT HE WAS TOO SMART, I'M SURE HE REALIZED THAT HE COULD NOT USE THE ABUSIVE FATHER EXCUSE FOR NOT DEALING WITH GOD, BUT IN HIS CASE, HE WANTED TO SCREW ALL THE LADIES, AND STILL COME HOME TO HIS DEDICATED WIFE, WHICH WAS HIS DOWNFALL, AND DISEASE, IN THIS LIFE, AND THE NEXT............NO ONE WILL BE CRYING AT THE JUDGEMENT THAT THEIR DADDY ABUSED THEM, SO THEY COULD NOT DEAL WITH GOD.......THEY MIGHT TRY IT, BUT IT AIN'T GONNA FLY, IT JUST SO HAPPENS, AND MAKES PERFECT SENSE, THAT IF YOU WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD YOUR WHOLE LIFE, THEN THAT ONE WOULD GO AWAY FROM GOD FOR ETERNITY, WHATEVER IS INVOLVED WITH THAT PLACE IS HORRIFYING TO ME, EVEN IF IT IS IN AN AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM FOR ALL ETERNITY, LET ALONE THE POSSIBILITY OF HEATED TORTURE........AFTER A THOUSAND YEARS OF EVEN BEING IN A NICE AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM, ONE WOULD BE BANGING THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, WITHOUT GOD (THIS IS MY MOST HORRIFYING THOUGHT) CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW BAD IT WOULD BE IF PUNISHMENT AND UNRELENTING HEAT WERE INVOLVED, ETC. MY POINT BEING THAT NO ONE GETS AWAY WITH IGNORING GOD IN THIS LIFE, WE WERE CREATED TOO SMART FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING OUR PRESENT STATE OF SINFULNESS AND WHAT HE HAS DONE TO PUT US PAST THAT CONDITION, AND AFTER ALL HOW COULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND PASS UP WHAT HE OFFERS TO BYPASS THE PENALTY, OR WAGES OF SIN, IT IS ALL TOO GOOD A DEAL, PRESENTED BY GOD, TO LET SOMEONE GET AWAY WITH IGNORING ALL HE IS, AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR US......VIA JESUS ON THE CROSS ETC. ALSO, DELIUS' MUSIC IS GLORIOUSLY BEAUTIFUL, AND SOME OF THE BEST OF ALL TIME, BUT IRRELEVANT IN DEFENSE OF HIS SOUL...... ALSO, ONE OF THE BIG LESSONS TO GET UNDER OUR BELTS IN THIS LIFE IS THAT GOD HAS REMOVED HIMSELF FROM THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF KILLING PEOPLE WITH EARTHQUAKES AND DISEASE, ETC. THESE THINGS FOR THE MOST PART ARE CAUSED BY FORCES ALREADY SET IN MOTION, APART FROM HIM, BUT THERE WERE A FEW EXCEPTIONS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT DAYS FOR REALLY INTENSE SITUATIONS WHERE HE TOOK ACTION, OR USED AN ANGEL TO DIRECTLY HIT PEOPLE UPSIDE THE HEAD, TO TRY AND WAKE THEM UP, RATHER THAN JUST ALLOWING THINGS TO TAKE THEIR COURSE BY NATURAL PROCESSES, ALREADY SET IN MOTION, AND IN THIS SAME WAY HE IS NOT THE ONE TORTURING PEOPLE IN HELL, IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO GO THERE, BY REJECTING WHAT JESUS OFFERS, THAT IS JUST WHAT HAPPENS TO GO ON THERE, APART FROM GOD, HE IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO CREATE THINGS COMPLETELY APART FROM HIM, AND NOT EVEN CONTROLLED BY HIM ANYMORE....BUT YET ALLOWED BY HIM......... SO YOU, AND ANYONE READING THIS, MAY AS WELL QUIT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR NOT COMING TO THE LINE IN THE SAND THAT HE DRAWS, AND DEALING WITH HIM ON HIS TERMS, WE MUST ALL GROW UP AND COME TO HIM THE SAME WAY, HIS WAY, NOT OUR WAY, HE DRAWS THE SAME LINE IN THE SAND, (SO TO SPEAK), FOR ALL OF US, AND WE MUST DEAL WITH IT, AND NOT BE A BABY ABOUT IT, COMING TO HIM, HIS WAY !!! DON'T TRY TO USE ANY PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR NOT COMING TO THE LINE IN THE SAND, AND TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS WITH HIM, AND TRANSACTING A SUBSTITUTIONARY PENALTY FOR YOUR OWN SINS TO GO BY THE WAY OF THE CROSS... WHATEVER YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE, DON'T REJECT SUCH A MARVELOUS FREE GIFT FROM GOD HIMSELF !!!
Writing as a very imperfect Anglican, I would never imagine that I could judge the sins of others, given that we all fall so far short of what we should be. God bless Delius and for the music that he created for our enjoyment.
Delius felt relatively little affinity or longing for the England that he left as a young man and to which he only occasionally, briefly returned. He much preferred the tropical environs of the American South, Florida in particular, and the hills and mountains of Norway, as well as the French countryside near Fontainebleau. He had no significant national affinity, yet calling him international would not be altogether accurate, either. Delius was Delius, plainly and simply, both personally and in terms of musical style. See home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/del01.html .
Very true. He was a well travelled man of mixed national descent who felt no special affinity for Britain. Having said that, as difficult as it is to pin Delius' music to an national school, I feel it certainly sounds more English than anything else.
I think you're wrong there--his music is very English--its delicate wistfulnful quality bespeaks England--what composers say and what they write may be two different things. It mattered not one whit that he spent most of life in France--this man was English. Even his Florida Suite is seeing the south through a tea filter so to speak.
I love some of Delius's work. But I am not sure I would agree with you that he was consistent. I think his material is of varying quality. His best, however, is up there with Beethoven, Mozart, RVW, and Elgar.
+David James Not any more than it has been in any other century one could name. What did you expect in the last 100 years - some sort of conversion on the road to Damascus for the entire human race? We're still as stupid as we ever were - but we have music, both from the past and in the present. Delius may be dead, but there are still good composers around. Einojuhani Rautavaara of Finland has written pieces just as beautiful as those of Delius or his contemporaries - and in the past few decades, too. Peter Sculthorpe of Australia wrote some wonderful music in the 80s and 90s. I'm sure there are others, and that others will come forth from here on.
+DieFlabbergast Yes, Kylie Minogue, to name nut one more Australian genius and there's the fabulous drawings of Tracey Emin.... but what worries me is the plutonium floating about now the powers that be seem not to give a damn about the devastating potential corruption of our DNA. ....AND another thing........
Well yes. Agreed. With Beecham you hardly ever got the music just as the composer wrote it. But what would the old Yorkshireman's music have done without it being championed by the Lancastrian, Tommy
Known as Fritz until he was nearly forty. Father from a Bielefeld wool-merchant family, who settled in Bradford. Mother apparently also from a Bielefeld family. What was all that about Englishness?
Delius has sadly fallen off the radar for a generation of music lovers who would dearly love if it they were only exposed to it. There is the problem of long term listening being a drag for many as well. Drop the needle anywhere during Beecham's or Barbirolli's handling of the slower, thicker, luscious pieces of Delius and it immediately bursts with colour and flavour whether harmonically, melodically or instrumentally. These albums are of course in my heart because of my childhood. Playing with lego on the floor while my Dad listened to his classical records. Many years later I completed a PhD in Composition in a music department which frankly had no time for Delius....though I suspect he was probably a guilty pleasure for a few of my colleagues despite no one saying anything. :)
To the uploader: I'm very glad that you specified that this is the EMI recording by Beecham. I have always found it to be preferable to the recording he made for Columbia.
This contrasts with the rather mellow usual orchestration of Delius. On the other side, Delius uses often non-fonctional harmonic relationships, which are rather scarce here. A peculiar score in Delius' outcome, but a masterwork indeed.
Methinks you don't see the man and his workings. It is easy to window shop for good composers and especially those that are original rather than follow the general run of composers or like the critiscist, always alongside anothers life?
No one conducts Delius like Beecham. This is the first piece of Delius I remember as a child,I would close my eyes and paint pictures in my mind,many years later as an artist I painted those pictures again;this time with brushes and paint. Now later still I can close my eyes and make pictures again whenever I hear this lovely piece
Such peaceful music!❤
The music of Delius is the sound of murmurs, cries, and whispers of home moving through the forests of fair England. God rest his soul.
DELIUS CHOSE TO NOT HAVE GOD IN HIS LIFE, AND IN FACT HATED GOD, AS A VERY OUTSPOKEN ATHEIST, NOT SURE IF HE IS "RESTING" AS YOU PRAY FOR, SINCE HE MAY BE IN A VERY HEATED SITUATION, THE ONLY REST HE MAY HAVE, WHERE HIS NOW, MAY BE THE GLORIOUS MUSIC GOD GAVE HIM, BUT HE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO IT FOR ANY KIND OF COMFORT.........GOD GAVE HIM THE OPTION, (AS HE DOES FOR ALL OF US) FOR MAKING USE OF THE NON-SMOKING SECTION, OR THE SMOKING SECTION, WAY OVER YONDER, AND I AM SURE IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT DELIUS UNFORTUNATELY DECIDED ON THE LATER........
How can one hate that in which s/he does not believe? Could his hatred, perhaps, have been for the judgmental, self-righteous piety against which the namesake of the Christian faith inveighed and that sometimes drives myopic zealots to outrageous actions? /// One of Delius's unpleasant experiences of childhood and youth was being grilled by his rigidly unbending father over Sunday lunch about what the minister had said in the church service earlier in the day. Sometimes he was beaten when he could not give a satisfactory answer. I can think of few if any ways more likely to drive from both religion and personal spirituality an intelligent, sensitive youngster. Add to that the view that Delius developed of his father as a harshly authoritarian and unloving individual, then transfer that to the God-the-Father concept, and the alienation and embitterment almost surely were complete. /// No doubt Delius also was the recipient of numerous threats of eternal damnation from others once he "came out" regarding his beliefs, or rather the lack thereof. Far from changing the mind of an intelligent, thinking person, such threats accomplish nothing other than further alienating him or her and convincing that person of the threatening individual's insecurity in his or her faith. /// The God in whom I believe surely would have understood all this, would not have felt threatened by Delius's views, would not have sought to penalize him infinitely for finite acts, and would have taken into account all the beauty that he left the world through his music, thereby making it a better place in the process.
YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY QUITE INTELLIGENT, AND MAKE SOME GREAT POINTS, BUT NO ONE, REPEAT, NO ONE, NOT EVEN SOME GENIUS ON THE LEVEL OF A DELIUS, IS WITH ANY EXCUSE FOR NOT DEALING WITH GOD, IN FACT HE WAS TOO SMART, I'M SURE HE REALIZED THAT HE COULD NOT USE THE ABUSIVE FATHER EXCUSE FOR NOT DEALING WITH GOD, BUT IN HIS CASE, HE WANTED TO SCREW ALL THE LADIES, AND STILL COME HOME TO HIS DEDICATED WIFE, WHICH WAS HIS DOWNFALL, AND DISEASE, IN THIS LIFE, AND THE NEXT............NO ONE WILL BE CRYING AT THE JUDGEMENT THAT THEIR DADDY ABUSED THEM, SO THEY COULD NOT DEAL WITH GOD.......THEY MIGHT TRY IT, BUT IT AIN'T GONNA FLY, IT JUST SO HAPPENS, AND MAKES PERFECT SENSE, THAT IF YOU WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD YOUR WHOLE LIFE, THEN THAT ONE WOULD GO AWAY FROM GOD FOR ETERNITY, WHATEVER IS INVOLVED WITH THAT PLACE IS HORRIFYING TO ME, EVEN IF IT IS IN AN AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM FOR ALL ETERNITY, LET ALONE THE POSSIBILITY OF HEATED TORTURE........AFTER A THOUSAND YEARS OF EVEN BEING IN A NICE AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM, ONE WOULD BE BANGING THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, WITHOUT GOD (THIS IS MY MOST HORRIFYING THOUGHT) CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW BAD IT WOULD BE IF PUNISHMENT AND UNRELENTING HEAT WERE INVOLVED, ETC.
MY POINT BEING THAT NO ONE GETS AWAY WITH IGNORING GOD IN THIS LIFE, WE WERE CREATED TOO SMART FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING OUR PRESENT STATE OF SINFULNESS AND WHAT HE HAS DONE TO PUT US PAST THAT CONDITION, AND AFTER ALL HOW COULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND PASS UP WHAT HE OFFERS TO BYPASS THE PENALTY, OR WAGES OF SIN, IT IS ALL TOO GOOD A DEAL, PRESENTED BY GOD, TO LET SOMEONE GET AWAY WITH IGNORING ALL HE IS, AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR US......VIA JESUS ON THE CROSS ETC.
ALSO, DELIUS' MUSIC IS GLORIOUSLY BEAUTIFUL, AND SOME OF THE BEST OF ALL TIME, BUT IRRELEVANT IN DEFENSE OF HIS SOUL......
ALSO, ONE OF THE BIG LESSONS TO GET UNDER OUR BELTS IN THIS LIFE IS THAT GOD HAS REMOVED HIMSELF FROM THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF KILLING PEOPLE WITH EARTHQUAKES AND DISEASE, ETC. THESE THINGS FOR THE MOST PART ARE CAUSED BY FORCES ALREADY SET IN MOTION, APART FROM HIM, BUT THERE WERE A FEW EXCEPTIONS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT DAYS FOR REALLY INTENSE SITUATIONS WHERE HE TOOK ACTION, OR USED AN ANGEL TO DIRECTLY HIT PEOPLE UPSIDE THE HEAD, TO TRY AND WAKE THEM UP, RATHER THAN JUST ALLOWING THINGS TO TAKE THEIR COURSE BY NATURAL PROCESSES, ALREADY SET IN MOTION, AND IN THIS SAME WAY HE IS NOT THE ONE TORTURING PEOPLE IN HELL, IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO GO THERE, BY REJECTING WHAT JESUS OFFERS, THAT IS JUST WHAT HAPPENS TO GO ON THERE, APART FROM GOD, HE IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO CREATE THINGS COMPLETELY APART FROM HIM, AND NOT EVEN CONTROLLED BY HIM ANYMORE....BUT YET ALLOWED BY HIM.........
SO YOU, AND ANYONE READING THIS, MAY AS WELL QUIT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR NOT COMING TO THE LINE IN THE SAND THAT HE DRAWS, AND DEALING WITH HIM ON HIS TERMS, WE MUST ALL GROW UP AND COME TO HIM THE SAME WAY, HIS WAY, NOT OUR WAY, HE DRAWS THE SAME LINE IN THE SAND, (SO TO SPEAK), FOR ALL OF US, AND WE MUST DEAL WITH IT, AND NOT BE A BABY ABOUT IT, COMING TO HIM, HIS WAY !!!
DON'T TRY TO USE ANY PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR NOT COMING TO THE LINE IN THE SAND, AND TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS WITH HIM, AND TRANSACTING A SUBSTITUTIONARY PENALTY FOR YOUR OWN SINS TO GO BY THE WAY OF THE CROSS...
WHATEVER YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE, DON'T REJECT SUCH A MARVELOUS FREE GIFT FROM GOD HIMSELF !!!
Writing as a very imperfect Anglican, I would never imagine that I could judge the sins of others, given that we all fall so far short of what we should be. God bless Delius and for the music that he created for our enjoyment.
Amen.
Perfect interpretation by Sir Thomas Beecham of this nostalgic and pastoral music.
Its exceptional beauty
very reflective music to sit alone of an evening.
Powerful. Gorgeous. Stirring.
This was wonderful! I don't remember hearing it before. Thank you for uploading. DA
wherever there is a tree, a blade of grass, or a flower, there is Delius
Carolyn Gerakos How beautiful Carolyn,what a perfect summing up of Delius 👍❤️
Beautiful! Art is art and is appreciated as such and not judged based on religious or political views.
Mr. Delius certainly had a marvelous way of voicing and weaving chords. After listening, I long to experience England. Thanks.
Delius felt relatively little affinity or longing for the England that he left as a young man and to which he only occasionally, briefly returned. He much preferred the tropical environs of the American South, Florida in particular, and the hills and mountains of Norway, as well as the French countryside near Fontainebleau. He had no significant national affinity, yet calling him international would not be altogether accurate, either. Delius was Delius, plainly and simply, both personally and in terms of musical style. See home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/del01.html .
Very true. He was a well travelled man of mixed national descent who felt no special affinity for Britain. Having said that, as difficult as it is to pin Delius' music to an national school, I feel it certainly sounds more English than anything else.
I fully agree with you.
I think you're wrong there--his music is very English--its delicate wistfulnful quality bespeaks England--what composers say and what they write may be two different things. It mattered not one whit that he spent most of life in France--this man was English. Even his Florida Suite is seeing the south through a tea filter so to speak.
absolutely.
Delius is so consistently good.
I love some of Delius's work. But I am not sure I would agree with you that he was consistent. I think his material is of varying quality. His best, however, is up there with Beethoven, Mozart, RVW, and Elgar.
Wonderful timbres with gentle melodies. Great for me nerves!
So Beautiful music 🌹
I have to ask, when I listen to the music of this genius composer - where have we come in the last 100 years? And I despair, but for this music!
d09071958 I know what you mean. The human condition seems to be stuck in a hole of stupidity and self destruction.
+David James Not any more than it has been in any other century one could name. What did you expect in the last 100 years - some sort of conversion on the road to Damascus for the entire human race? We're still as stupid as we ever were - but we have music, both from the past and in the present. Delius may be dead, but there are still good composers around. Einojuhani Rautavaara of Finland has written pieces just as beautiful as those of Delius or his contemporaries - and in the past few decades, too. Peter Sculthorpe of Australia wrote some wonderful music in the 80s and 90s. I'm sure there are others, and that others will come forth from here on.
+DieFlabbergast Yes, Kylie Minogue, to name nut one more Australian genius and there's the fabulous drawings of Tracey Emin.... but what worries me is the plutonium floating about now the powers that be seem not to give a damn about the devastating potential corruption of our DNA. ....AND another thing........
+David James Are you a certified nutcase, or are you smoking something unusually strong?
Now we create noise, not music.
such lovely coloring in his writing,woven beauty of the rarest kind
lovely comment...Delius's is unique its like no other.
This is the definitive performance of this glorious work.
Tahseen Nakavi Agreed!
Well yes. Agreed. With Beecham you hardly ever got the music just as the composer wrote it. But what would the old Yorkshireman's music have done without it being championed by the Lancastrian, Tommy
Known as Fritz until he was nearly forty. Father from a Bielefeld wool-merchant family, who settled in Bradford. Mother apparently also from a Bielefeld family. What was all that about Englishness?
Beecham and Delius - a true combination.
Beecham at his best written in1895 unusual scoring for Delius with his heavy use of brass instruments exhilarating nevertheless
Beecham was such a gifted conductor and musician. His Scheherazade with the LSO is breathtaking.
Delius has sadly fallen off the radar for a generation of music lovers who would dearly love if it they were only exposed to it. There is the problem of long term listening being a drag for many as well. Drop the needle anywhere during Beecham's or Barbirolli's handling of the slower, thicker, luscious pieces of Delius and it immediately bursts with colour and flavour whether harmonically, melodically or instrumentally.
These albums are of course in my heart because of my childhood. Playing with lego on the floor while my Dad listened to his classical records.
Many years later I completed a PhD in Composition in a music department which frankly had no time for Delius....though I suspect he was probably a guilty pleasure for a few of my colleagues despite no one saying anything. :)
... beautiful...
To the uploader: I'm very glad that you specified that this is the EMI recording by Beecham. I have always found it to be preferable to the recording he made for Columbia.
There is the nostalgy of "anyywhere else " in that music/
sad that our lake district has now been ruined and overun by tourists
Beecham once said of Delius that his music was alluring as a wanton woman and he was determined to tame it. Cat Mansell
This contrasts with the rather mellow usual orchestration of Delius. On the other side, Delius uses often non-fonctional harmonic relationships, which are rather scarce here. A peculiar score in Delius' outcome, but a masterwork indeed.
Ah, Sir Thomas - one of the greater products of big pharma.
Methinks his music is similar to several of his contemporaries: in particular Arnold Bax and Vaughan Williams
Methinks you don't see the man and his workings. It is easy to window shop for good composers and especially those that are original rather than follow the general run of composers or like the critiscist, always alongside anothers life?
Gordon Sheets --as a listener of Delius and Vaughan Williams for over 50 years,methinks you are right.Especially Brigg Fair.
N o information on the scenery ! BOOOOOO ! Where shot?
Sounds like Richard Wagner das Rheingold
Teletubbies come to... SMOKE WEED EVERYYYY DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Angus Rhodes douche bag
James Mcgrory
Sorry about that, I now realise it was cringy af.
I hear Star Wars lol
Exceptional!!!... (so) bɛɑʊʈifuɭ 💞
A masterpiece from a genius... Can I ask where the first pic was taken? I recognise Derwent water