Before people say this is barbaric you have to remember this is Scotland, not America. The wolves and bears of this area have long since been killed off by the population, so there's nothing to stop over breeding of the deer. Culling is needed in order to maintain a healthy balance.
i hope you took time to educate yourself on american wild game because your comment is idiotic and ignorant as we have to cull whitetailed deer all the time to keep numbers in check....
@@thetruth3290 think he more meant the fact that here we have no natural predators in Scotland for stag unlike America with some in places but of course culling is still necessary in America too
Another good video. Loved the rifle and the setting. Its not easy in a short film to tell a story, remain informative, and touch on the soul of Highland stalking. You managed it though.
Hi Cal, I don't know myself however William Evans in St James should be able to help with your enquiry as they had supplied the rifle and slip. Kind regards Peter
Hi Kent, thanks for your observations. keep in mind these are the deer that we have caught on camera, there are plenty of occasions when we don't get a chance to film them before they bolt. Perhaps you should give the UK a try for yourself? Take a look at this link if you are considering it: www.countydeerstalking.co.uk/overseas-visitors-go-stalking.html
Keirantalent - What you say is entirely true, deer by their very nature are a prey species and are designed to reproduce at an alarming rate. With no predation or culling in Scotland the numbers simply become out of control to the point where they become diseased and/or starved. Peter
When I was a wee lass, I had such a crush on Basil Rathbone in old Sherlock Holmes movies that I persuaded my mom to buy me a deerstalker hat. It cost her $16, which for her, as a divorcee and whose ex wasn't sending any child support, was a lot of money. The deerstalker that the guy is wearing is similar to my deerstalker. Hearing the wind makes me thing "DAMN!! no wonder the Scots wore these funny hats that had built-in earmuffs!"
Good video.. Missing the shot...! But in Scotland the hunter cannot carry its won rifle..? And always in the gun bag..? Or it´s just for prevent the rain and rock crashes..?
Yes, either the guest or the stalker may carry the rifle, it requires some stamina to walk many miles in the highlands so the task is often shared. The rifle stays in the slip a lot of the time to save it getting damaged or soaking wet.
@@peterjones4442 thank you Peter. Yes I know by myself the cost of carriyng the rifle and stuff. Here in Portugal thath's the same.... but the rifle ,when stalking , we carry it in the shoulder , no bag , and indeed we always ask help from the guide ...Good hunting in you wonderful country..
Fascinating. Your deer seem to be considerably more forgiving than Whitetail deer. You mentioned that you were only 70 yards from the stag when you shot. The way you were waving that rifle around, any whitetail would have bolted a long time ago. I watched another video where the hunter had come around a hedge only to encounter 4 does approximately 40-50 yards away. They simply sat and stared at the hunter for a solid minute or more before they finally trotted across the field. Clearly there isn't much hunting pressure on these animals.
I realise your comment is 2 years old but I'd already typed this before I noticed - deer in the UK have no natural predators... bears, wolves, mountain lions or whatever. I would guess that over time, they became less concerned with being eaten than their american cousins. roe deer can even be found in towns, parks, cemeteries and even a few areas of grassland next to shopping centers... you can get to within 100 yards of a lot of deer without too much crawling around
Sorry to be a bit down on it, but having someone else find the deer guide you in and carry the riffle all seems a bit lame not really stalking its just pulling the trigger witch is the easy bit, my memory's of many trips to Scotland are finding my own deer carrying my own kit shooting the deer them extracting them myself or with a friend
+Peter Ward Get yourself a 300 WM mate it is the best calibre in the world if you ask me. I have hunted Africa many times and have only ever used my .300 Winchester Magnum in Africa and that includes three Cape Buffalo each of my Cape Buffalo took one round each using 220 grain Woodleigh projectile. My latest Cape Buff which has a huge 46 inch spread was shot at 206 meters or 225 yards and he didn't even take a step. By rights the .375 is the minimum calibre on Cape Buffalo, however most will let you use a 300 Win Mag, just make sure you load your own rounds if you ever plan on doing a African Dangerous game hunt. That big Lion in my photo was also shot using my 300 Win Mag but I used 180 grain Barnes X projectiles and I load my own rounds. If you are a good shot, then I can guarantee you the 300 Win Mag will drop any animal on earth, yes even Elephant with ONE round. Get yourself a 300 Win Mag, they are the most versatile calibre's that really works well from small antelope such as Greysbok up to the largest in Cape Buffalo and unlike the bigger rifles the 300 WM is a very flat shooting rifle which allows you to take those really long 200 to 600 odd meter shots if needed on smaller game such as Kangaroo, Pigs, White Tail deer, Fallow Deer and so forth. Happy hunting.
300 Weatherby magnum is a far superior round. Flatter shooting and far more knockdown power. Great elk , moose and grizzly bear round. Compare ballistics you will be surprised. Carl Weatherbys ultimate hunting rifle in his own words.
Very sad commentary on the politics of gun control. The hunter is not trusted with the rifle except for the 60 seconds of taking the shot. The guide keeps the gun away from the hunter the rest of the time. Indeed you are a servant of the government not a truly free person.
this is part of a foreigner hunting and tradition in Scotland. Yes here in America it's completely different, but there are reasons for this for them. The guide is the Professional Hunter they make sure the animal is the animal to take, 19 times out of 20 the foreigner was not able to bring their own rifle so they were required to borrow the guides rifle so this is another case. It's just different styles and different traditions to hunting.
I think you misunderstand the position. It is the hunter's own gun, not the ghillie's. It is a form of etiquette and respect to the professional ghillie that the hunter waits until he says it is time to take the shot.
It would also be unsafe if the shooter was crawling behind the Ghillie with a loaded gun which is why the Ghillie has the gun. The Ghillie also carry’s the gun for the guest on the hill as well.
Trust is not usually given when a loaded firearm is concerned in UK as history has showed serious injury has happened, would you really be happy for someone to be crawling up behind you with the barrel pointed straight up your ass. Think of any proper controlled shooting range, no one points a weapon towards anybody. In Scotland it is also a tradition that the firearm is carried for the client or guest up to the actual shot being taken. As for the trophy, most traditional estates do not allow good trophy to be shot until the Stag is a lot older and has had plenty of opportunity to pass on his genes, with experience the Stalker (guide) knows if a younger Stag is any good or not, then selective culling is undertaken as in this instance. Hope this helps in your understanding of Deer management on traditional estates in Scotland.
+adamunchy I once thought this way but a point to note though highlands don't, nor have they ever, really contained forest. Once you get to a certain altitude UK tree species don't like the wind etc. I used to be quite against "blood sports" but as a meat eater I prefer to eat something that is free range and organic opposed to beef or other famed animals that pollute the environment.
Wolves were just re-introduced to the are I live( with in the last ten years) in Washington state. I can say that while, overall,I support native wildlife returning to the landscape. We have seen a significant drop in deer population. The packs have become so brazen that they are now within 1 mile of town( they were originally about 30 miles into the wilderness) and recently ran a biologist up a tree. Coincidentally we have also had a massive increase in coyote and bear populations. Now the government is having to step in to regulate numbers of predators as hunting isn't able to keep pace( we also have a significant cougar population). Bear in mind this in in a region with only 4 people per square mile on average. The bottom line is the UK is far to densely populated to have wolves return( they have a home range of up to 50 miles or more). Just my opinion though. Good job on this channel...I really enjoy your videos and would love to come stalking with you guys someday. Thanks.
@@beancole I agree with you on all but one point. The Scottish Highlands certainly did have extensive forests and woodlands. This was prior to the Highland Clearances in the 1700s during which massive amounts of forest, wildlife, and people were removed (often forcibly in the latter case) to make room for sheep farming by wealthy landowners.
I appreciate your courteous reply but I cannot agree with grown men shooting defenceless animals for sport and fun - "warm handshakes all round". I will continue to lobby opposition to such activities.
i honestly wouldn't say it was for fun, although i cant speak for anyone on their behalf. what i can say is that it's necessary. cruel, but necessary. In scotland deer have no natural predators apart from humans. if we left them alone their population would grow higher each year giving them less land leading them to pour into towns and cities. by controlling their population we prevent this and keep them happy with a lot of room to go so they dont risk their lives even more by going into towns and cities where they can not only get themselves killed but humans too. it may be cruel but it's necessary, just like we need to do the same to our population, control it since there is a world food shortage. this is why it's in a way good to have all these wars as it keeps the world population down.. the earth is over crowded with humans and that needs to be sorted just like scotland would be over crowded with deer if we didn't control their population
It is my understanding that, unlike as in North America, deer in the British Isles have no natural predators, wolves having been hunted to extinction in the 18th century. That being the case, unless the deer are managed by hunting they will soon out strip the land's ability to sustain them. Rather than have starving and sick animals suffer I think it is more humane to harvest them in appropriate numbers and thus maintain a healthy population in balance with the environment. Most hunters will use the animals they harvest for food. Best regards. Paul H. Dallas, TX
Jack Lucas made a similar comment on the same video or another of the same nature but i agree, nae natural predators so we humans hunt them, it make sfor a good christmas dinner though
Phillip O'Brien Too bad you don't respect others aboriginal rights. Maybe I should openly protest something you hold dear to your life. Tax you for it and harass you for it... Make your use of it as miserable as I can.. Does it feel equal yet?
+Phillip O'Brien If you really cared for the Animals like 95% of Animal liberationists profess to, then you should start lobbying about POACHING as poaching will eliminate certain species like Rhino, Tigers, Elephant, Lions just to name a few within no time. Trophy hunting is the only reason Rhino's are still roaming the Wilderness of Africa. However it seems the vast majority of animal liberationists don't really care for the animals like they profess. They are just ANTI GUN meaning if they see Trophy hunters hunt Elephants legally, they will protest and kick up a fuss, even though Trophy hunters will only harvest around 200 Elephants annually. However even though poachers kill 25,000 to 35,000 Elephants per year the animal liberationists say very little. Is it the Animals you really care about or are you all just ANTI GUN, going by those figures its quite easy to understand where your priority lies. Absolute HYPOCRITES
Sorry you feel this way, but deer management is important in keeping a dynamic balance within the ecosystems, all of the deers apex predators are no longer in this country so there for we have to keep the balance. I suggest you look at yellow stone and the reintroduction of wolves. This is a prime example of why a balance must be kept!
County Deer Stalking on the contrary, the deers biggest predator is still at large in this country, it's easy for people over the Internet to consider themselves above the food chain when passing judgement, but ultimately humans are the greatest predators on the planet and the ecosystem includes us as a part of it.
This is by far one of the best hunting channels on youtube! Hopefully you increase your popularity!
Many thanks for the comment.
Before people say this is barbaric you have to remember this is Scotland, not America. The wolves and bears of this area have long since been killed off by the population, so there's nothing to stop over breeding of the deer. Culling is needed in order to maintain a healthy balance.
i hope you took time to educate yourself on american wild game because your comment is idiotic and ignorant as we have to cull whitetailed deer all the time to keep numbers in check....
@@thetruth3290 think he more meant the fact that here we have no natural predators in Scotland for stag unlike America with some in places but of course culling is still necessary in America too
People keep forgetting that being a human is being a part of nature's cycle, and part of that cycle includes culling and hunting.
Another good video. Loved the rifle and the setting. Its not easy in a short film to tell a story, remain informative, and touch on the soul of Highland stalking. You managed it though.
Fantastic looking rifle, good stalk. I bet landing back in London was a shock to the system! Stalking on the hill is so special 👌
Remarkable how much like hunting elk in the American West this is. Beautiful.
excellent video and great shot!
kurokikaze666 many thanks for your comments, much appreciated and please spread the word!
Hi Cal, I don't know myself however William Evans in St James should be able to help with your enquiry as they had supplied the rifle and slip. Kind regards Peter
Great day lads the only drawback having to end up in London
Hi Kent, thanks for your observations. keep in mind these are the deer that we have caught on camera, there are plenty of occasions when we don't get a chance to film them before they bolt. Perhaps you should give the UK a try for yourself? Take a look at this link if you are considering it: www.countydeerstalking.co.uk/overseas-visitors-go-stalking.html
Nice video & hunt !!
Nice wee film
I'd have stayed a night or two and carved off that first steak for breakfast . Happy hunting
Keirantalent - What you say is entirely true, deer by their very nature are a prey species and are designed to reproduce at an alarming rate. With no predation or culling in Scotland the numbers simply become out of control to the point where they become diseased and/or starved. Peter
@@RedScotland I hope most guests to your beautiful country arrive with the intention of showing it due respect.
When I was a wee lass, I had such a crush on Basil Rathbone in old Sherlock Holmes movies that I persuaded my mom to buy me a deerstalker hat. It cost her $16, which for her, as a divorcee and whose ex wasn't sending any child support, was a lot of money. The deerstalker that the guy is wearing is similar to my deerstalker. Hearing the wind makes me thing "DAMN!! no wonder the Scots wore these funny hats that had built-in earmuffs!"
Good video.. Missing the shot...! But in Scotland the hunter cannot carry its won rifle..? And always in the gun bag..? Or it´s just for prevent the rain and rock crashes..?
Yes, either the guest or the stalker may carry the rifle, it requires some stamina to walk many miles in the highlands so the task is often shared. The rifle stays in the slip a lot of the time to save it getting damaged or soaking wet.
@@peterjones4442 thank you Peter. Yes I know by myself the cost of carriyng the rifle and stuff. Here in Portugal thath's the same.... but the rifle ,when stalking , we carry it in the shoulder , no bag , and indeed we always ask help from the guide ...Good hunting in you wonderful country..
Hello, whats the name of that cap you're wearing? It seems to be modeled after the Pith Helmet
Great video, keep them coming. What arrangements did you have to make regarding taking a rifle onto the train?
Hi Andy be delighted to discuss, feel free to ping me an email via the site, kind regards Peter Jones.
So what model is the rifle
Good afternoon... nay i ask what brand of rifle slip that is ?..cheers
They even break for tea and biscuits 😂😂💀💀
What model harkila trousers and boots is he wearing?
Pro-hunter trousers, I forget the name of the boots.
Hi, where is this filmed? At what estate?
Fascinating. Your deer seem to be considerably more forgiving than Whitetail deer. You mentioned that you were only 70 yards from the stag when you shot. The way you were waving that rifle around, any whitetail would have bolted a long time ago. I watched another video where the hunter had come around a hedge only to encounter 4 does approximately 40-50 yards away. They simply sat and stared at the hunter for a solid minute or more before they finally trotted across the field. Clearly there isn't much hunting pressure on these animals.
I realise your comment is 2 years old but I'd already typed this before I noticed - deer in the UK have no natural predators... bears, wolves, mountain lions or whatever. I would guess that over time, they became less concerned with being eaten than their american cousins. roe deer can even be found in towns, parks, cemeteries and even a few areas of grassland next to shopping centers... you can get to within 100 yards of a lot of deer without too much crawling around
Sorry to be a bit down on it, but having someone else find the deer guide you in and carry the riffle all seems a bit lame not really stalking its just pulling the trigger witch is the easy bit, my memory's of many trips to Scotland are finding my own deer carrying my own kit shooting the deer them extracting them myself or with a friend
did you bring the rifle way you on the train up to Scotland?
Peter what coat are you wearing in the film? Loving the videos keep them going
My next rifle is to be a 300 win mag. What rifle manufacturer did you use this day?
+Peter Ward Get yourself a 300 WM mate it is the best calibre in the world if you ask me.
I have hunted Africa many times and have only ever used my .300 Winchester Magnum in Africa and that includes three Cape Buffalo each of my Cape Buffalo took one round each using 220 grain Woodleigh projectile.
My latest Cape Buff which has a huge 46 inch spread was shot at 206 meters or 225 yards and he didn't even take a step.
By rights the .375 is the minimum calibre on Cape Buffalo, however most will let you use a 300 Win Mag, just make sure you load your own rounds if you ever plan on doing a African Dangerous game hunt.
That big Lion in my photo was also shot using my 300 Win Mag but I used 180 grain Barnes X projectiles and I load my own rounds.
If you are a good shot, then I can guarantee you the 300 Win Mag will drop any animal on earth, yes even Elephant with ONE round.
Get yourself a 300 Win Mag, they are the most versatile calibre's that really works well from small antelope such as Greysbok up to the largest in Cape Buffalo and unlike the bigger rifles the 300 WM is a very flat shooting rifle which allows you to take those really long 200 to 600 odd meter shots if needed on smaller game such as Kangaroo, Pigs, White Tail deer, Fallow Deer and so forth.
Happy hunting.
thanks for the reply. happy hunting to you too
Tika T3
300 Weatherby magnum is a far superior round. Flatter shooting and far more knockdown power. Great elk , moose and grizzly bear round. Compare ballistics you will be surprised. Carl Weatherbys ultimate hunting rifle in his own words.
Why do they case their weapons on the stock?
Great
Great film and channel not in to hunting but love the film check out my big stags 👀👍
Rws D.K?
I thought it was against the law to take a firearm on a train, but good job to take a spiker from the herd.
Stick a moderator on there
Seems a shame on such a pretty rifle!
Not a very good deer. If you're paying 1000+ for a buck, might as well wait for a decent trophy. Still a fun video.
trophy is not everything
Very sad commentary on the politics of gun control. The hunter is not trusted with the rifle except for the 60 seconds of taking the shot. The guide keeps the gun away from the hunter the rest of the time. Indeed you are a servant of the government not a truly free person.
this is part of a foreigner hunting and tradition in Scotland. Yes here in America it's completely different, but there are reasons for this for them. The guide is the Professional Hunter they make sure the animal is the animal to take, 19 times out of 20 the foreigner was not able to bring their own rifle so they were required to borrow the guides rifle so this is another case. It's just different styles and different traditions to hunting.
I think you misunderstand the position. It is the hunter's own gun, not the ghillie's. It is a form of etiquette and respect to the professional ghillie that the hunter waits until he says it is time to take the shot.
It would also be unsafe if the shooter was crawling behind the Ghillie with a loaded gun which is why the Ghillie has the gun. The Ghillie also carry’s the gun for the guest on the hill as well.
Trust is not usually given when a loaded firearm is concerned in UK as history has showed serious injury has happened, would you really be happy for someone to be crawling up behind you with the barrel pointed straight up your ass. Think of any proper controlled shooting range, no one points a weapon towards anybody. In Scotland it is also a tradition that the firearm is carried for the client or guest up to the actual shot being taken. As for the trophy, most traditional estates do not allow good trophy to be shot until the Stag is a lot older and has had plenty of opportunity to pass on his genes, with experience the Stalker (guide) knows if a younger Stag is any good or not, then selective culling is undertaken as in this instance.
Hope this helps in your understanding of Deer management on traditional estates in Scotland.
if we just brought wolves back then our forrests would grow back an we would no longer need to hunt deer
+adamunchy I once thought this way but a point to note though highlands don't, nor have they ever, really contained forest. Once you get to a certain altitude UK tree species don't like the wind etc.
I used to be quite against "blood sports" but as a meat eater I prefer to eat something that is free range and organic opposed to beef or other famed animals that pollute the environment.
+adamunchy Thanks for your comments, you may find this article of interest: www.countydeerstalking.co.uk/Blog/wolves-in-the-uk.html
+County Deer Stalking Thank you, this artice was very interesting, informitave and non baised.
Wolves were just re-introduced to the are I live( with in the last ten years) in Washington state. I can say that while, overall,I support native wildlife returning to the landscape. We have seen a significant drop in deer population. The packs have become so brazen that they are now within 1 mile of town( they were originally about 30 miles into the wilderness) and recently ran a biologist up a tree. Coincidentally we have also had a massive increase in coyote and bear populations. Now the government is having to step in to regulate numbers of predators as hunting isn't able to keep pace( we also have a significant cougar population). Bear in mind this in in a region with only 4 people per square mile on average. The bottom line is the UK is far to densely populated to have wolves return( they have a home range of up to 50 miles or more). Just my opinion though. Good job on this channel...I really enjoy your videos and would love to come stalking with you guys someday. Thanks.
@@beancole I agree with you on all but one point. The Scottish Highlands certainly did have extensive forests and woodlands. This was prior to the Highland Clearances in the 1700s during which massive amounts of forest, wildlife, and people were removed (often forcibly in the latter case) to make room for sheep farming by wealthy landowners.
I appreciate your courteous reply but I cannot agree with grown men shooting defenceless animals for sport and fun - "warm handshakes all round". I will continue to lobby opposition to such activities.
i honestly wouldn't say it was for fun, although i cant speak for anyone on their behalf. what i can say is that it's necessary. cruel, but necessary. In scotland deer have no natural predators apart from humans. if we left them alone their population would grow higher each year giving them less land leading them to pour into towns and cities. by controlling their population we prevent this and keep them happy with a lot of room to go so they dont risk their lives even more by going into towns and cities where they can not only get themselves killed but humans too. it may be cruel but it's necessary, just like we need to do the same to our population, control it since there is a world food shortage. this is why it's in a way good to have all these wars as it keeps the world population down.. the earth is over crowded with humans and that needs to be sorted just like scotland would be over crowded with deer if we didn't control their population
It is my understanding that, unlike as in North America, deer in the British Isles have no natural predators, wolves having been hunted to extinction in the 18th century. That being the case, unless the deer are managed by hunting they will soon out strip the land's ability to sustain them. Rather than have starving and sick animals suffer I think it is more humane to harvest them in appropriate numbers and thus maintain a healthy population in balance with the environment.
Most hunters will use the animals they harvest for food.
Best regards.
Paul H.
Dallas, TX
Jack Lucas made a similar comment on the same video or another of the same nature but i agree, nae natural predators so we humans hunt them, it make sfor a good christmas dinner though
Phillip O'Brien Too bad you don't respect others aboriginal rights. Maybe I should openly protest something you hold dear to your life. Tax you for it and harass you for it... Make your use of it as miserable as I can.. Does it feel equal yet?
+Phillip O'Brien If you really cared for the Animals like 95% of Animal liberationists profess to, then you should start lobbying about POACHING as poaching will eliminate certain species like Rhino, Tigers, Elephant, Lions just to name a few within no time.
Trophy hunting is the only reason Rhino's are still roaming the Wilderness of Africa.
However it seems the vast majority of animal liberationists don't really care for the animals like they profess.
They are just ANTI GUN meaning if they see Trophy hunters hunt Elephants legally, they will protest and kick up a fuss, even though Trophy hunters will only harvest around 200 Elephants annually.
However even though poachers kill 25,000 to 35,000 Elephants per year the animal liberationists say very little.
Is it the Animals you really care about or are you all just ANTI GUN, going by those figures its quite easy to understand where your priority lies.
Absolute HYPOCRITES
Barbaric Stone Age behaviour.
Sorry you feel this way, but deer management is important in keeping a dynamic balance within the ecosystems, all of the deers apex predators are no longer in this country so there for we have to keep the balance. I suggest you look at yellow stone and the reintroduction of wolves. This is a prime example of why a balance must be kept!
County Deer Stalking ap
County Deer Stalking on the contrary, the deers biggest predator is still at large in this country, it's easy for people over the Internet to consider themselves above the food chain when passing judgement, but ultimately humans are the greatest predators on the planet and the ecosystem includes us as a part of it.
Al Paca You seem to agree with my point.
Phillip O'Brien I agree that it's stone age behaviour, I disagree about it being barbaric or inhumane,