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can you play Netflix in 4K on M1 MacBooks? how smooth is it when playing UA-cam full screen and then entering and exiting full screen does MacBook stutters?
I really appreciate the fact that you reacted to the criticism under the last video and instantly uploaded a new one. Really shows that your goal is to provide value for the viewers.
Thank you! Almost instantly.. Only took 30min of prepping, 3 hours of shooting, 6 hours of editing as fast as I could, and an hour for uploading/thumbnail lol.
If you do manage to get the 16gb air it would be interesting to compare the photo export on that vs MBP13. Since that was the only time.the fan kicked in it'd be a useful way to see if the air would throttle due to lack of a fan
Damn, honestly I was already kind of on the fence for this channel but mad respect that you guys managed such a quick turnaround for scripting, shooting, editing, and publishing so quickly in response. I was already subscribed but we hit that notification bell for the new videos now. Man, really rare a channel like yours has this quick of a response. Wow. It really says a lot about the direction for you guys and the team you have. Wow.
We’re now at 12-24-2021 and the MacBook M1 is still an awesome laptop for most people! Such a bargain with highest inflation we have had in a long time!
I’ve got to say 2 things . First, the M1 is a beast and any Mac that has one makes it so much better value than anything intel offers, a phenomenon that is only going to grow over time as more 3rd party devs get their products optimised. And secondly, these videos are simply the best on the internet for helping people make their potential purchases work for them! Having the choices logically mapped out so everything makes sense to their needs is a huge resource, especially with the proof of concepts on display in the images so they can be made crystal clear and easy to recall when people are spending their hard earned money on the fairly expensive technology that will become leveraged by their owners to help them run their lives, be they for work or for education or whatever. These are trying times for everyone and anything that helps you get through them in any way should be recognised as something worthy of praise and should be appreciated as such. So thanks for being so thorough and comprehensive in your coverage of this historic moment for the Mac! I for one am loving your work and now feel better armed to make the right decisions going forward with the purchases that I’ll be making in the near future.
With all the details and testing at this point I'm beginning to believe there's a better performance boost with long-term storage by upgrading the storage instead of the RAM.
I "asked" for this yesterday. Today you upload this video. You already had my respect but now, wow. Subscribed, liked, commented but it is not enough. thank you very much. Respect and kudos sent from Athens Greece
FYI swapping is an OS feature that has been long studied and implemented in all popular OS's. MacOs pre-M1, linux, Windows all do swapping. So don't worry about swapping damaging your SSD.
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Kudos guys! This was the BEST video I've seen so far!! I've watched all your other videos regarding M1 Macs but this was the video I've been looking for for days!!! Real-life scenarios tested and now the question about how much RAM I need has been answered. I tremendously appreciate your effort and the value you share. Keep it up 👏👏
The fact that we need to keep pushing to see a real difference on the new M1 macbooks helped me decide for the base model and a Samsung T5 SSD. Super happy with my purchase :)
Do you still have it with you or did you return /sell it? I'm thinking about buying the base model m1 nba but i'm quite hesitant it won't accomodate my workflow well. I'm doing light programming in web dev. Do you think it's still worth buying in 2022?
@@benravenhill484 I still have it, it handles everything I need like a champ. If you want to future proof your purchase, consider 16 GB of RAM and you’ll be fine.
@@devsakhuja1788 Hey buddy! Yes, the M1 MBP has been incredible for me. If you’re planning on getting the M2 model, I suggest you go for the M2 MacBook Air because it will have a new design, a better webcam, and the notch. I'll pass this upgrade and save my money to get the M2 Pro chip in the future. Enjoy your laptop! You won't be disappointed
Great test like usual! I abandoned my 16-inch i9 in favor or Mac mini M1 16GB. I’ve also picked up a MacBook Air M1 for the road and because of your test, I’ve saved money by going 8GB MacBook Air M1 instead of the 16GB version. Thanks again! Final Cut Pro X and Lightroom CC are the two apps that I use.
If you pay attention to the battery conditions here, you can see that the 8gb version has a high battery consumption. I watched a few more videos. There are big differences in battery usage. CPU is constantly memory swapping. That mean your battery will drain fastly on 8gb. Be careful with this if you are going to do these things while traveling.
I like it a lot, that you listened to criticism regarding the initial video and corrected the test cases accordingly. Shows, that you guys actually do care. Great :)
I've never commented on a UA-cam video before, but I've never been this impressed by a UA-camr. It was like he was in my brain answering my next question before I could think it. Instant Subscribe.
@@lfcastillov1027 depends on what you plan on doing with it. I use it mostly for work and use cloud storage for 99 percent of files. So, 256gb of storage is fine by me. If I wanted to do video editing or something, I imagine an external SSD would be good to add.
I have 64 GB of ram and I close tabs all the time. I got 64 GB (2x32) 3600 MHZ for $230 for my pc build. Ain't got to pay that Apple Tax. That Apple Tax is steep AF. Also it isn't soldered to the board.
the 16gb M1 is sold out everywhere where I live but my old 2018 mac's screen just broke...tryna decide if I can make do with 8GB on the M1 MBP, or if I should go with an M2 Air (also 8GB-but the newer chip and slimmer form would be nice, but im worried about thermal throttling). I do photography and video work part-time, but i'm also a student. We have extremely powerful desktops at my school for pro video work that I can book, but I need something for my own freelance work too that'll hopefully last me through all my BA and MA studies. I pretty much use Lightroom and Photoshop weekly. Would love some insights if someone could push me in the right direction!
Thanks for this comparison, it helped more than anything else I could find. I canceled an order for a MBA with 16GB RAM and 512GB of storage and ordered the base model instead. My future proofing will be an M2 Macbook Pro in a couple years, just really needed to replace an older Macbook Pro now.
@@richard6812 My wife (the primary user) has been very happy with the base MBA. It does everything she needs well and photo editing is fast, fast enough that the first time she used the M1 MBA she thought it had glitched as nothing happened. Turned out it had exported the 10-15 raw photos so fast she never noticed it processing.
I assume Apple adds more GPU power. Right now only one monitor can be plugged in. As such many pros can't use it yet. If they do just that, it will be great hardware.
@@stevemuzak8526 new MBP16 costs the same as the MBP15. These CPUs are cheaper to make and need less RAM, so the price might go down for entry level spec and the same but with higher spec. This is what Apple does recently. Apple's business model hanged more towards software so they need as many people in their ecosystem as possible.
@@stevemuzak8526 I suspect that Apple will sell them at the same price model for model as today based on these three Computers. 5 nm chips are likely to be very expensive to make and the fact that apple has reused 7 core GPU near fails, implies this to be true. However, a 40 % or more performance increase would exceed all the none-pro machines Apple currently builds as well as equal a number of the very expensive pro machines. I estimate that the 16 GB mac mini I have on order is going to give me something close (80 %) to the performance of the 3.8Ghz core i9 processers in the top end consumer iMac. It seems 16GB integrated is equivalent 32 GB standard Intel, then thats a £2,000 + cost saving for me. If I needed real top end performance a £2,500 M1X iMac equivalent might perform something like a low end pro model at £5,000 +. Thats not a bad trade off IMO.
re swap with free mem: macOS carries over behavior from BSD. It will preemptively page-out data that is not used, even when RAM is sufficient, to avoid having to page-out when demand suddenly increases. That's the behavior you are seeing. It made sense back in the day when computers had little RAM and disk paging was frequent, but Apple has never eliminated the behavior.
Page out but duplicated in RAM, so if more ram is suddenly needed the RAM can be cleared instantly, not having to wait for it to be paged before clearing. Definitely a good thing, keep it.
@@pflaffik for small memory sizes for sure, but if in have a Mac pro with 192gb of ram , I don't want the OS to cache in my ssd if its leaving 90gb free, especially if I know my workloads and their requirements. This is what Max mentioned. It is possible to disable it. For 8gb or 16gb on a non workstation though, it is good to let it run for most people.
@@gn0s1s The swap usage also corresponds to memory usage. If you're using 80% of 8GB it's less urgent than 80% of 64GB, for example. I still think they could tweak it to consider raw numbers though, as systems with more RAM can perform worse, as the video shows.
I would love to see 7 core vs 8 core GPU MacBook air test. Especially testing CPU to see if they are indeed higher quality in the 8 core/non binned versions
Great follow up video, thank you guys for being so responsive! The only thing left I wish I could see would be gaming performance for the kind of games a lot of us like to play on a laptop (WoW, League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, DotA2, Fortnite, etc).
Don’t feel bad. I bought a MacBook Pro 13 inch base with 512GB last week😂 luckily for a very good deal! I’m selling it this week with some profit to buy the MBP or MBA
That Mac is so much better in other ways than the new 13.3” Macbook Pro. 6 speakers, better cooling, much better GPU. I ordered the new Macbook Pro M1 with 512 gb and 16 gb ram (which will actually be too much for me), because I don’t want to be tempted to buy a more expensive Macbook Pro when those will belaunched with a Silicon processor. Haha.
@@secretscipio bought it second hand. It is 1 month old with 4 battery cycles for €1000,- which is really cheap. They are new still €1499,- or something like that.
Happen to notice that the 16GB MacBook Pro was plugged-in with the charger, will that make differences? The testing should be done under the same battery condition or with both chargers plugged-in
You're on fire! Again your videos confirmed my hesitant purchase of the Air 8GB/512GB. I would only be using the portable travelling, or webinars with Lightroom. I can't imagine ever having a ton of big apps open at the same time. When Apple brings out the M pro versions I'll choose RAM added options to replace my iMac 5K.
As someone who has a i7 8700k with a 2080 Ti... I noticed I stopped playing games on PC a year ago, and just use my PC for web browsing and Lightroom edits. I went with a M1 Pro with 8GB RAM and 512GB storage, I use a external 6TB WD blue drive 3.5" drive docked, as my storage device. I went with the Pro for the brighter screen and bigger battery, its worth the extra price.
Great video! I think a comparison between 8GB and 16GB while gaming would also be very interesting to see! Just to see if the extra RAM equals more fps in some games.
Dude! You just saved me 200 bucks for when I buy a Mac Mini! My only hesitancy about subscribing is I don't know that I want to be constantly tempted to buy more Macs.
@@rowangraham7711 Hey there! To be honest, I'm doing very light editing so the 8gb of ram works great for me. I use it for work mostly, so I run zoom through the machine and have zero issues at all. If you're going to be performing heavy tasks on it then I would recommend the 16gb. If it's for leisure/pleasure use then 8gb is more than enough I think. Also Apple may be releasing one with a 32gb option so you could wait for that if you can...or get a PC haha but whatever you end up with, I hope it makes you happy friend :)
@@McDagger90 Thanks very much for replying! I’ve watched some comparisons and also, in light of your comment, I believe I’ll get the 16gb version as I’ll need it to last at least a few years of (not particularly light) educational use and 32gb is a bit overkill for me haha. Thanks again :)))
Thanks for the awesome video!! I have an old 3.33 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon Mac Pro 5,1 Cheese-grater with 48 GB RAM running Cubase pro 11 and DaVinci Resolve 16. Everything seems to be working fine, do you believe that the 8GB Mac Mini will be a good replacement? Thanks a bunch
@Forest Cityy I think this channel did a test on the music production laying multiple tracks over to see the performance. Check that one out. Also this basic model is enough in my opinion because it can't project into 2 screens automatically and also 2 usbc ports might not be enough if you have many output adapters. So there is no need to upgrade to 16gb ram or something.
Photoshop, Xcode, Final Cut, 50 tracks in Logic, 4 tabs in Safari & 20 tabs in Chrome running simultaneously...silky smooth? These machines are BANANAS. Even under an immense load (giggity) the differences were negligible or non-existent. I’m definitely getting the 8gb model.
Welp, this answers my questions. I actually use my Mac with lots of heavy applications running at once (usually various IDEs) for school, work, and personal projects. That the 16 GB model handles a similar workload so swimmingly is amazing to me! I’m floored and blown away. I’ve got one on its way. The mail cannot come fast enough!
This excellent comparison matches my experience. There is only one application where 16GB makes a huge difference: Parallels. Trying to run Windows inside Parallels on an 8 GB Mac is a nightmare because if you don’t allocate at least 8GB to Win10, it just won’t run properly. On a 16GB Mac, you can allocate 8GB to the Mac and 8GB to Win10 and everything runs super smoothly. And the latest Beta of Parallels for M1 is VERY good. Apart from that, 8GB is really sufficient for most people because most people don’t go crazy and keep all these apps and tabs open all the time. Those 8GB M1 Macs are amazing.
Years ago I worked with a guy who was a keyboardist in a band, and he could actually play two different songs at once, one with each hand. Mind blown! But, I'm so uncoordinated like that, that stuff like this impresses me too, LOL.
And what about a stress test comparing Air M1 16GB vs Pro M1 8GB? It would be interesting as they cost the same with the 8GPU cores and 512 ROM. Thank you for you videos!
You really deserve to have more than a million followers, and this is something I have already seen more than once people commenting here, and it is because you really deserve it! Thank you guys!
Thanks for the wonderful review. Based on your review and my own requirements I was able to convince myself to go for the basic model with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage. Can't wait for it! Excited to see the M1 chip performance.
@Asadullah Al Galib I just bought the 8GB/512GB MBA. I'm a developer too, running VSCode, multiple browsers, terminals, etc at once. Yet to see a single lag. The optimization on M1 is phenomenal.
@@100100freak I haven't tried any serious photo/video editing yet. I do web development most of the time. Although I often need to make logos, vectors, quick animations for my web projects. And I never saw it lagging. I even edit 5-10 mins short intro videos sometimes and rendering time is much lower than what I used to get from my i7 9700k windows 10 PC.
Great video. Many people were worried about why no 32GB support, but you show very clearly here that the average consumer will not struggle with even the 8GB model...
Medical advice: Video not for people that can’t handle multitasking. At some point I was unable to follow how many things you have opened up 😅 Best RAM comparison video on UA-cam 👍🏼
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I'm writing this on my 2012 Macbook Pro and I will go for the 16Gb M1. Probably now 8Gb is enough, but with so many online video work lately, probably soon the extra cost will make sense. If my new M1 lasts the same 8 years of hard work it will be worthy. Thanks for both 8 vs 16 Gb M1 videos, they were very helpful.
Thanks for this. This video really helped ease my concern. I went with a base Mac mini m1 after my 2011 27 inch IMac had enough. I upgraded the ram in that and had 2TB’s of storage. It’s main job was photo editing with LR and PS and basic computing. Hearing how great the M1 mini was, I was sold on it pretty fast. Having a keyboard and mouse, the price made sense and made even more sense when I got a refurbished model. I now have a new setup for a little over 1k. Hearing some people talk about it, they act has if you need 16G’s for anything other than basic computing and even though your test are to the extreme, it shows the 8G version can definitely handle a solid workload. With my needs of simple photo work, paired with a decent external SSD, I feel it’ll be great. The other great part about the mini is the price, it’s relatively cheap for its performance brand new, but refurbished you really have a deal and when an upgrade happens, rather that’s the M2 or something else, you won’t feel bad about jumping on that at all since you’re already set up for it. My guess is, I’ll probably end up with an upgraded mini sometime next year due to the fact that it’ll probably just be amazing.
I exported a 4k 30fps with luts colour correction, custom transitions and effects 11 min clip exported in final cut x in just 13 min blown away!! I have the macbook pro with M1 8 core 16gb ram and 1tb SSD.
Great comparison, some of us will always go for the in between models, like instead of 8gb get the 16gb and also not get the 32gb I always will find myself that buying the lowest model will not only make me feel I could do better & give me a reason to buy more in the future even just to feel better, but I also don't want to throw my money away and get the high end ones. by getting the 16gb I will feel like I don't have the urge to get something better in the next few years, if I get the 8gb I may be tempted to still get the 16gb model in the future which will end up costing me more (of course since I can afford it) if I couldn't I would probably have no choice but to go for the 8gb model or even worse get the intel based model at a very cheap price as they are dropping in price a lot now that the M1 is out
@@sttv1570 i though the same XD. Ram with M1 is not the same as RAM in a random windows PC. I uploaded a video today to my channel opening 100 Chrome windows on the M1 8GB. My HP for work with 32GB kicks the fans in when I open just 3 tabs 😂
@@sttv1570 i though the same XD. Ram with M1 is not the same as RAM in a random windows PC. I uploaded a video today to my channel opening 100 Chrome windows on the M1 8GB. My HP for work with 32GB kicks the fans in when I open just 3 tabs 😂
Hi, great video, considering to buy one of these two and I have a question: Does the 16GB model get hotter/spin the fan more during normal multitasking? If so, is it by a noticeable amount? (I'm talking about multitasking with 20-30 tabs and 3-4 office apps open, not rendering) Thanks
I just brought pro m1 with 8c gpu 8c with 8gb ram and 512 ssd. It is new and costs about 600 euros :) it is my first mac :) do i make any sense on 2023 :) and it is 13" i videoedit a lot so :)
@@jackscandrett123 Chances are that if you’re a light user or someone that has other devices to store things on you won’t need extra storage than the base 256GB. You can always use an external drive for files that you can’t store in the cloud because paying apples rates for storage isn’t economical at all especially considering that you can get a pretty good 1TB SSD and usb c connector for around 150. Of course if you know you really need that storage and you don’t want the hassle of keeping drives and dongles with you then the only alternative is to spend the extra money.
@@jackscandrett123 Unless you work with large files, you shouldn't upgrade. I bought one last week and I was very loath to shell out the extra $225CAD for either RAM or storage. Apple's upgrade prices are extortionate IMO so I didn't opt for either.
Hi Max! Nice job on making such a quick comeback on the stress test! Looks like developers are gonna wait for more compatibility with all apps and then buy the 16GB thanks to this video. Great job!
Great video guys, love the content on the Apple M1 chips. Can you do a video comparing gaming between the 8GB and 16GB ram models? As the graphics part of the SOC uses the same RAM as the CPU.
Hi Max, thanks for your video. After reviewing the RAM performance for these two machines, which upgrade would up recommend as a priority when getting an M1 Mac? Extra storage or extra RAM? Thanks!
Facts. It's hard to recommend the 16 GB for anyone (college students, normal users, photo editors, web developers, etc) The base model MacBook Air is the best right now and I think more pro users should honestly wait for the next Macs to come. They will be better for the people who really need it (Like that 3% of pro users who really need every bit of performance)
That's what I've been saying. That crowd keeps making excuses why they need 16gb...."future proofing!!"...and then when 8gb is proven to be more than enough for almost everyone..."it helps save my ssd!"....there's really no pleasing those folks. 16,000gb still wouldn't be enough to please.
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Think I’ll get the 8gb
This video was a HUGE help, thanks you guys.
I ordered the 16gb 512, the swap memory is the main reason I did t get the 8gb
can you play Netflix in 4K on M1 MacBooks? how smooth is it when playing UA-cam full screen and then entering and exiting full screen does MacBook stutters?
If it's worth buying a new computer at all it's worth putting 16GB in it.
I really appreciate the fact that you reacted to the criticism under the last video and instantly uploaded a new one. Really shows that your goal is to provide value for the viewers.
Thank you! Almost instantly.. Only took 30min of prepping, 3 hours of shooting, 6 hours of editing as fast as I could, and an hour for uploading/thumbnail lol.
What was the criticism?
@@dhisonpadma He mentions it in the beginning of the video. People complained that there wasn't enough multitasking
DHISVN on the previous video they didn’t talk about multi tasking and which one was better for that so
@@MaxTechOfficial This vid is amazing. Ur a saint!
You are literally the only comparison guys that actually answered many of my question. Great demonstration keep it up!
Awesome I am buying a macbook pro and thanks to your Excellent demonstration of 8 vs. 16 I have made my decision. 8gb it is. Thanks so much
This is a proper 8GB vs 16GB memory comparison!! The best so far for these M1 beasts!!
Thank you!
I agree. This is THE 8 v 16.
If you do manage to get the 16gb air it would be interesting to compare the photo export on that vs MBP13. Since that was the only time.the fan kicked in it'd be a useful way to see if the air would throttle due to lack of a fan
@@wylie102 if you have try hard to bring this beast to it’s knees, then you don’t have to worry about performance
@@robinarora8137 Not the point. If we go by that then this whole video is pointless. The idea here is to find the boundaries.
Damn, honestly I was already kind of on the fence for this channel but mad respect that you guys managed such a quick turnaround for scripting, shooting, editing, and publishing so quickly in response. I was already subscribed but we hit that notification bell for the new videos now.
Man, really rare a channel like yours has this quick of a response. Wow. It really says a lot about the direction for you guys and the team you have. Wow.
Thank you!
The M1 performance is almost as impressive as the ambidextrous track pad use!
As a native German speaker.... just learned a new word. Thank you!
I didn't even know that I had this superpower
We’re now at 12-24-2021 and the MacBook M1 is still an awesome laptop for most people! Such a bargain with highest inflation we have had in a long time!
I’ve got to say 2 things . First, the M1 is a beast and any Mac that has one makes it so much better value than anything intel offers, a phenomenon that is only going to grow over time as more 3rd party devs get their products optimised. And secondly, these videos are simply the best on the internet for helping people make their potential purchases work for them! Having the choices logically mapped out so everything makes sense to their needs is a huge resource, especially with the proof of concepts on display in the images so they can be made crystal clear and easy to recall when people are spending their hard earned money on the fairly expensive technology that will become leveraged by their owners to help them run their lives, be they for work or for education or whatever. These are trying times for everyone and anything that helps you get through them in any way should be recognised as something worthy of praise and should be appreciated as such. So thanks for being so thorough and comprehensive in your coverage of this historic moment for the Mac! I for one am loving your work and now feel better armed to make the right decisions going forward with the purchases that I’ll be making in the near future.
Apple's optimization is insane. Great video Max!
With all the details and testing at this point I'm beginning to believe there's a better performance boost with long-term storage by upgrading the storage instead of the RAM.
That’s what I was thinking.
I "asked" for this yesterday. Today you upload this video. You already had my respect but now, wow. Subscribed, liked, commented but it is not enough. thank you very much. Respect and kudos sent from Athens Greece
Sparta will be reborn
You're an idiot if you think it was done SPECIALLY FOR YOU!
There has been hundreds of requests!!!
I appreciate how in tune with your audience you guys are, I was waiting for this video!
God, I was confused for so many days! I was like: why does his voice changed every time when he shaved. 😂😂😂 so who is the bigger brother?
Hahah :) I'm the older brother (Max on this video) Vadim is 2 years and 5 days younger.
🤦🏾♂️ lmao
For so long I thought it was the same guy 😂. Trippy
Oh snap I didn’t even noticed.!!!!! Mind blown 🤯
OMG！two guys here？I been watching for sooooo long and did not notice that
At this point I think we need “Max vs Vadim” comparison video 😂
dude you don't have to put on a fake beard just to pretend to be two people. we accept you how you are.
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@@MaxTechOfficial 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh they always look so similar to me🤣🤣
@@Ethereal184 It actually takes me 2 secs to recalibrate my eyes and confirm who's speaking... 🤣
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you guys are working so hard to get the videos everyone is requesting out! kudos to everyone on the team 💫
I'd love to see one of these using an 8GB M1 macbook and an Intel 16GB.
FYI swapping is an OS feature that has been long studied and implemented in all popular OS's. MacOs pre-M1, linux, Windows all do swapping. So don't worry about swapping damaging your SSD.
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Safari: I’ll just take a small bite!
Only real ones understand this spongebob reference
Nom nom nom nom
yeah honestly if you are a Mac user why not just use safari lol
@@hithere4289 cause chrome has kickass extensions
Kudos guys! This was the BEST video I've seen so far!! I've watched all your other videos regarding M1 Macs but this was the video I've been looking for for days!!! Real-life scenarios tested and now the question about how much RAM I need has been answered. I tremendously appreciate your effort and the value you share. Keep it up 👏👏
The fact that we need to keep pushing to see a real difference on the new M1 macbooks helped me decide for the base model and a Samsung T5 SSD. Super happy with my purchase :)
Do you still have it with you or did you return /sell it? I'm thinking about buying the base model m1 nba but i'm quite hesitant it won't accomodate my workflow well. I'm doing light programming in web dev. Do you think it's still worth buying in 2022?
@@benravenhill484 I still have it, it handles everything I need like a champ. If you want to future proof your purchase, consider 16 GB of RAM and you’ll be fine.
Hey, just wanted an update, I’m planning to get the m2 base model so wanted to know how the m1 base has held up?
@@devsakhuja1788 Hey buddy! Yes, the M1 MBP has been incredible for me. If you’re planning on getting the M2 model, I suggest you go for the M2 MacBook Air because it will have a new design, a better webcam, and the notch. I'll pass this upgrade and save my money to get the M2 Pro chip in the future. Enjoy your laptop! You won't be disappointed
Hey buddy, I'm planning to get apple's MacBook Air M1 (2020) base model with 8gigs of ram, is this much ram enough for a CSE major college student?
Great test like usual! I abandoned my 16-inch i9 in favor or Mac mini M1 16GB. I’ve also picked up a MacBook Air M1 for the road and because of your test, I’ve saved money by going 8GB MacBook Air M1 instead of the 16GB version. Thanks again! Final Cut Pro X and Lightroom CC are the two apps that I use.
And did u enjoy the 8gb model?
Is the 8GB fine?
If you pay attention to the battery conditions here, you can see that the 8gb version has a high battery consumption.
I watched a few more videos. There are big differences in battery usage. CPU is constantly memory swapping. That mean your battery will drain fastly on 8gb. Be careful with this if you are going to do these things while traveling.
no i have 16 gb of ram and my battery drains most fastly than others persons which have the use model
And where did you find this videos please ?
This is false
I like it a lot, that you listened to criticism regarding the initial video and corrected the test cases accordingly. Shows, that you guys actually do care. Great :)
Max, I am so glad you are working with your community this close. Great Work and Thank you so much for bringing all of these tests to us.
I've never commented on a UA-cam video before, but I've never been this impressed by a UA-camr. It was like he was in my brain answering my next question before I could think it. Instant Subscribe.
With the 16gb model, I won’t ever have to close a tab ever again
Never underestimate Chrome’s ram requirements
@@lfcastillov1027 i have it now and it is just amazing
@@lawbinson Do you think I must upgrade the storage or buy an external ssd obviously cheaper?
@@lfcastillov1027 depends on what you plan on doing with it. I use it mostly for work and use cloud storage for 99 percent of files. So, 256gb of storage is fine by me.
If I wanted to do video editing or something, I imagine an external SSD would be good to add.
I have 64 GB of ram and I close tabs all the time. I got 64 GB (2x32) 3600 MHZ for $230 for my pc build. Ain't got to pay that Apple Tax. That Apple Tax is steep AF. Also it isn't soldered to the board.
the 16gb M1 is sold out everywhere where I live but my old 2018 mac's screen just broke...tryna decide if I can make do with 8GB on the M1 MBP, or if I should go with an M2 Air (also 8GB-but the newer chip and slimmer form would be nice, but im worried about thermal throttling).
I do photography and video work part-time, but i'm also a student. We have extremely powerful desktops at my school for pro video work that I can book, but I need something for my own freelance work too that'll hopefully last me through all my BA and MA studies. I pretty much use Lightroom and Photoshop weekly.
Would love some insights if someone could push me in the right direction!
Wait!???? There's two presenters on this show?!!??!??
yes they are brothers. LOOOL
yeah, surprise that . they're not even twins...
what? 2 Max? my guess is 2 Max who one of them is beard.
False imposible
LOL It took me months to figure that one out!
Thanks for this comparison, it helped more than anything else I could find. I canceled an order for a MBA with 16GB RAM and 512GB of storage and ordered the base model instead. My future proofing will be an M2 Macbook Pro in a couple years, just really needed to replace an older Macbook Pro now.
How did this work out? Are you happy with the purchase and what do you use now?
@@richard6812 My wife (the primary user) has been very happy with the base MBA. It does everything she needs well and photo editing is fast, fast enough that the first time she used the M1 MBA she thought it had glitched as nothing happened. Turned out it had exported the 10-15 raw photos so fast she never noticed it processing.
Please edit just a 30+ minute video in 4K on Final Cut and show if we need 16gb or not. Thanks.
You are doing a great job with all those tests !
(One small error in the slide at 15:28: 5.00 and not 3.00)
I saw that too
I saw that too, so I went looking for this comment
I recently saw it while still watching..
Haha its okay most of the people saw it, its that they can’t change it. And it happens when you are working hard you miss some things.
Caught that as well. Easily forgivable. He did comment that he was editing to get the video up as fast as possible
I can't imagine the performance when they release 14 inch and 16 inch with m1x or m2 or whatever it will be called.
4 more performance cpus and 4 more GPUs. I guess at least 40 % better still.
I assume Apple adds more GPU power. Right now only one monitor can be plugged in. As such many pros can't use it yet.
If they do just that, it will be great hardware.
@@stevemuzak8526 new MBP16 costs the same as the MBP15.
These CPUs are cheaper to make and need less RAM, so the price might go down for entry level spec and the same but with higher spec. This is what Apple does recently.
Apple's business model hanged more towards software so they need as many people in their ecosystem as possible.
@@stevemuzak8526 I suspect that Apple will sell them at the same price model for model as today based on these three Computers. 5 nm chips are likely to be very expensive to make and the fact that apple has reused 7 core GPU near fails, implies this to be true. However, a 40 % or more performance increase would exceed all the none-pro machines Apple currently builds as well as equal a number of the very expensive pro machines.
I estimate that the 16 GB mac mini I have on order is going to give me something close (80 %) to the performance of the 3.8Ghz core i9 processers in the top end consumer iMac. It seems 16GB integrated is equivalent 32 GB standard Intel, then thats a £2,000 + cost saving for me. If I needed real top end performance a £2,500 M1X iMac equivalent might perform something like a low end pro model at £5,000 +. Thats not a bad trade off IMO.
@Abitamim Bharmal Don’t forget that the 3000 ppl working in the Apple Silicon team works for free too.
re swap with free mem:
macOS carries over behavior from BSD. It will preemptively page-out data that is not used, even when RAM is sufficient, to avoid having to page-out when demand suddenly increases. That's the behavior you are seeing.
It made sense back in the day when computers had little RAM and disk paging was frequent, but Apple has never eliminated the behavior.
Page out but duplicated in RAM, so if more ram is suddenly needed the RAM can be cleared instantly, not having to wait for it to be paged before clearing. Definitely a good thing, keep it.
@@pflaffik for small memory sizes for sure, but if in have a Mac pro with 192gb of ram , I don't want the OS to cache in my ssd if its leaving 90gb free, especially if I know my workloads and their requirements. This is what Max mentioned. It is possible to disable it. For 8gb or 16gb on a non workstation though, it is good to let it run for most people.
@@gn0s1s The swap usage also corresponds to memory usage. If you're using 80% of 8GB it's less urgent than 80% of 64GB, for example. I still think they could tweak it to consider raw numbers though, as systems with more RAM can perform worse, as the video shows.
Linux and Windows does that as well. Swap usage is not a good metrik, you need to look at paging rates instead
I would love to see 7 core vs 8 core GPU MacBook air test. Especially testing CPU to see if they are indeed higher quality in the 8 core/non binned versions
Compare the base Mc Book Air and the 8GB pro
Being financial advisor that simply uses browsers, the MBA is ideal. Gonna keep my iPad Pro right now though.
Nice job guys! Always appreciate the completeness and professionalism you bring to your benchmark videos.
Great follow up video, thank you guys for being so responsive! The only thing left I wish I could see would be gaming performance for the kind of games a lot of us like to play on a laptop (WoW, League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, DotA2, Fortnite, etc).
Impressed by the efficiency of the 8GB model. But do you think next softwares/updates (for Apple Silicon) will use more Ram in the next 5/6/7 years ?
Eventually this will be a problem
Definitely
This is something I also wondered too. 16gb is definitely future proofing I’d say
Just picked up a 16 gb map 1 tb ssd for $1000. Nice upgrade over my 2017 i5!
Great content guys! I regret buying MacBook Pro 16 inch 5 months back!
Expected 1st generation of Apple silicon to be unstable 😭
Don’t feel bad. I bought a MacBook Pro 13 inch base with 512GB last week😂 luckily for a very good deal! I’m selling it this week with some profit to buy the MBP or MBA
That Mac is so much better in other ways than the new 13.3” Macbook Pro. 6 speakers, better cooling, much better GPU.
I ordered the new Macbook Pro M1 with 512 gb and 16 gb ram (which will actually be too much for me), because I don’t want to be tempted to buy a more expensive Macbook Pro when those will belaunched with a Silicon processor. Haha.
@@fritsdehuisspin you can still return it I think
@@secretscipio bought it second hand. It is 1 month old with 4 battery cycles for €1000,- which is really cheap. They are new still €1499,- or something like that.
Happen to notice that the 16GB MacBook Pro was plugged-in with the charger, will that make differences? The testing should be done under the same battery condition or with both chargers plugged-in
No difference. Doesn't slow down on battery like a Windows laptop.
You're on fire! Again your videos confirmed my hesitant purchase of the Air 8GB/512GB. I would only be using the portable travelling, or webinars with Lightroom. I can't imagine ever having a ton of big apps open at the same time. When Apple brings out the M pro versions I'll choose RAM added options to replace my iMac 5K.
Thank you for actually answering the questions rather than showing a bunch of benchmarks or whatever those are. THANKS. this really helped
This whole time I thought you and Vadim were the same person 😳🤯
As someone who has a i7 8700k with a 2080 Ti... I noticed I stopped playing games on PC a year ago, and just use my PC for web browsing and Lightroom edits. I went with a M1 Pro with 8GB RAM and 512GB storage, I use a external 6TB WD blue drive 3.5" drive docked, as my storage device.
I went with the Pro for the brighter screen and bigger battery, its worth the extra price.
Is the blue drive SSD? Could send me the Amz link for it? Thanks n
Just ordered a 8GB MBP and now i'm sure about this decision- thx for the video 👍🏼😊
Ordered base model as well, it’ll arrive next week😁
Any updates?
Thanks for this vid! You were the only one to really put the M1 through a stress test. Now I feel better about my M1 lol.
Great video! I think a comparison between 8GB and 16GB while gaming would also be very interesting to see! Just to see if the extra RAM equals more fps in some games.
Great Review Max Tech! I love how you cater to the audience & give the people what they ask for. Absolutely love this video.
Thanks bro. I bought the 16gb the first day they started pre orders. Now I just watch videos that convince me that it was a good idea.
Dude! You just saved me 200 bucks for when I buy a Mac Mini! My only hesitancy about subscribing is I don't know that I want to be constantly tempted to buy more Macs.
Wow. This UMA thingy is amazing. 8 GB seems way more than enough for me.
I got the 8gb too. She runs great!
@@McDagger90 Hey, how’s it going now? I’m debating 8gb vs 16gb, and your input could be valuable :)
@@rowangraham7711 Hey there!
To be honest, I'm doing very light editing so the 8gb of ram works great for me. I use it for work mostly, so I run zoom through the machine and have zero issues at all. If you're going to be performing heavy tasks on it then I would recommend the 16gb. If it's for leisure/pleasure use then 8gb is more than enough I think. Also Apple may be releasing one with a 32gb option so you could wait for that if you can...or get a PC haha but whatever you end up with, I hope it makes you happy friend :)
@@McDagger90 Thanks very much for replying! I’ve watched some comparisons and also, in light of your comment, I believe I’ll get the 16gb version as I’ll need it to last at least a few years of (not particularly light) educational use and 32gb is a bit overkill for me haha. Thanks again :)))
I appreciated all what you are doing. Been a long time follower and your videos just keep getting better.
I tried doing this on my 2012 15in mbp, it exploded
2011 macbook air, starting lifting off because of the fan and vaporized my house's water supply with heat
Thanks for the awesome video!! I have an old 3.33 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon Mac Pro 5,1 Cheese-grater with 48 GB RAM running Cubase pro 11 and DaVinci Resolve 16. Everything seems to be working fine, do you believe that the 8GB Mac Mini will be a good replacement? Thanks a bunch
got the 8 GB with 512GB yesterday. they were in stock and picked up very soon.
@Forest Cityy I think this channel did a test on the music production laying multiple tracks over to see the performance. Check that one out. Also this basic model is enough in my opinion because it can't project into 2 screens automatically and also 2 usbc ports might not be enough if you have many output adapters. So there is no need to upgrade to 16gb ram or something.
@@zihaowang4456 what about using parallels if you also use it to run windows 10 arm?
@@krosser2123 gaming probably not so ideal under parallels,,,the rest should be fine.
Would you recommend getting the 512 8gb one or the 512 16gb one ?
Photoshop, Xcode, Final Cut, 50 tracks in Logic, 4 tabs in Safari & 20 tabs in Chrome running simultaneously...silky smooth?
These machines are BANANAS.
Even under an immense load (giggity) the differences were negligible or non-existent. I’m definitely getting the 8gb model.
impressive, thank you for making this test.
I got 16gb on my MacBook Air so it has more room and hopefully helps it to not overheat. I get it on Wednesday. Finally!
How do you like it so far?
It's impressive to see what Apple can achieve with 8GB, Windows would be to it's knee and totally unresponsive.
Welp, this answers my questions. I actually use my Mac with lots of heavy applications running at once (usually various IDEs) for school, work, and personal projects. That the 16 GB model handles a similar workload so swimmingly is amazing to me! I’m floored and blown away.
I’ve got one on its way. The mail cannot come fast enough!
Is it just me or did I just realize there’s two different people doing this UA-cam channel. I thought there was only one they look so alike
Keep up with your work. Your videos are so fresh and not repetitive. Hoping to see that 1 million mark soon !
The video I want to see how the M1 runs on Blender in EEVEE/Cycles, And also how it performs on the GPU and CPU? Thanks.
This excellent comparison matches my experience. There is only one application where 16GB makes a huge difference: Parallels. Trying to run Windows inside Parallels on an 8 GB Mac is a nightmare because if you don’t allocate at least 8GB to Win10, it just won’t run properly. On a 16GB Mac, you can allocate 8GB to the Mac and 8GB to Win10 and everything runs super smoothly. And the latest Beta of Parallels for M1 is VERY good. Apart from that, 8GB is really sufficient for most people because most people don’t go crazy and keep all these apps and tabs open all the time. Those 8GB M1 Macs are amazing.
The thing that stunned me, was that you are able to you use two trackpads with both hands at the same time 😳
Years ago I worked with a guy who was a keyboardist in a band, and he could actually play two different songs at once, one with each hand. Mind blown! But, I'm so uncoordinated like that, that stuff like this impresses me too, LOL.
This is now my default channel for tech videos! Thanks for all the great content!👏👏
And what about a stress test comparing Air M1 16GB vs Pro M1 8GB? It would be interesting as they cost the same with the 8GPU cores and 512 ROM. Thank you for you videos!
You really deserve to have more than a million followers, and this is something I have already seen more than once people commenting here, and it is because you really deserve it! Thank you guys!
I had no idea there was 2 people. I thought he had the power to control his puberty at will
This comment made me LOL
thats a good one haha
Now my doubts has been cleared. I'm going for the base model without looking back 🙌🙌✅
I got the base myself and have been really happy with it.
Thanks for the wonderful review. Based on your review and my own requirements I was able to convince myself to go for the basic model with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage. Can't wait for it! Excited to see the M1 chip performance.
@Asadullah Al Galib Yes it is more than enough for programming and normal video editing.
@Asadullah Al Galib I just bought the 8GB/512GB MBA. I'm a developer too, running VSCode, multiple browsers, terminals, etc at once. Yet to see a single lag. The optimization on M1 is phenomenal.
@@GautamKabiraj96 sure? I heard from several hobby photographers that they have problems with their M1 Mac 8gb RAM when editing photos
@@100100freak I haven't tried any serious photo/video editing yet. I do web development most of the time. Although I often need to make logos, vectors, quick animations for my web projects. And I never saw it lagging. I even edit 5-10 mins short intro videos sometimes and rendering time is much lower than what I used to get from my i7 9700k windows 10 PC.
@@GautamKabiraj96 ok thanks!
Great video. Many people were worried about why no 32GB support, but you show very clearly here that the average consumer will not struggle with even the 8GB model...
Medical advice: Video not for people that can’t handle multitasking.
At some point I was unable to follow how many things you have opened up 😅
Best RAM comparison video on UA-cam 👍🏼
I'm writing this on my 2012 Macbook Pro and I will go for the 16Gb M1. Probably now 8Gb is enough, but with so many online video work lately, probably soon the extra cost will make sense. If my new M1 lasts the same 8 years of hard work it will be worthy. Thanks for both 8 vs 16 Gb M1 videos, they were very helpful.
Nice! you're almost at 500k
So close!
Max you are killing all other techtubers with these apple silicon videos. Great coverage. 👏👏👏
Another excellent review. How do you not have >1M subs already?
Thank you. This is the only comparsion video that makes sense and actually helps deciding which one to buy.
I have a feeling the extra 8Gb would make more of a difference when people start running VMs for Windows and such.
Whenever that becomes possible lol
exactly.Waiting for parallels.
Apparently Crossover running under Wine will let you run Windows on the M1.
@@PanChod-ct7ou too much hassle . Not worth it .
Sure but he did push it really far to get the 8Gb to lag. 🤯
Thanks for this. This video really helped ease my concern. I went with a base Mac mini m1 after my 2011 27 inch IMac had enough. I upgraded the ram in that and had 2TB’s of storage. It’s main job was photo editing with LR and PS and basic computing. Hearing how great the M1 mini was, I was sold on it pretty fast. Having a keyboard and mouse, the price made sense and made even more sense when I got a refurbished model. I now have a new setup for a little over 1k. Hearing some people talk about it, they act has if you need 16G’s for anything other than basic computing and even though your test are to the extreme, it shows the 8G version can definitely handle a solid workload. With my needs of simple photo work, paired with a decent external SSD, I feel it’ll be great. The other great part about the mini is the price, it’s relatively cheap for its performance brand new, but refurbished you really have a deal and when an upgrade happens, rather that’s the M2 or something else, you won’t feel bad about jumping on that at all since you’re already set up for it. My guess is, I’ll probably end up with an upgraded mini sometime next year due to the fact that it’ll probably just be amazing.
I want the 16GB model but it’s so hard to wait for them to be in stock again
what'd you do then?
What did you end up doing?!
I exported a 4k 30fps with luts colour correction, custom transitions and effects 11 min clip exported in final cut x in just 13 min blown away!! I have the macbook pro with M1 8 core 16gb ram and 1tb SSD.
Great comparison, some of us will always go for the in between models, like instead of 8gb get the 16gb and also not get the 32gb
I always will find myself that buying the lowest model will not only make me feel I could do better & give me a reason to buy more in the future even just to feel better, but I also don't want to throw my money away and get the high end ones. by getting the 16gb I will feel like I don't have the urge to get something better in the next few years, if I get the 8gb I may be tempted to still get the 16gb model in the future which will end up costing me more (of course since I can afford it) if I couldn't I would probably have no choice but to go for the 8gb model or even worse get the intel based model at a very cheap price as they are dropping in price a lot now that the M1 is out
Great job as always.. max tech rocks in every video🤘.. provides us what we want to know 🙏
It’s like having the iPhone with 6GB vs samsung with 12GB, the dam thing just works!
@@miguelledezma1394 I’m just saying with 6GB iPhone VS a S20 with double the ram still outperforms it just about in most instances.
@@miguelledezma1394 iPhones are way better than an android.
@@miguelledezma1394 never heard of 12 Pro and Pro Max? They both has 6Gb Ram. lol!
@@sttv1570 i though the same XD. Ram with M1 is not the same as RAM in a random windows PC. I uploaded a video today to my channel opening 100 Chrome windows on the M1 8GB. My HP for work with 32GB kicks the fans in when I open just 3 tabs 😂
@@sttv1570 i though the same XD. Ram with M1 is not the same as RAM in a random windows PC. I uploaded a video today to my channel opening 100 Chrome windows on the M1 8GB. My HP for work with 32GB kicks the fans in when I open just 3 tabs 😂
Hi, great video, considering to buy one of these two and I have a question: Does the 16GB model get hotter/spin the fan more during normal multitasking? If so, is it by a noticeable amount? (I'm talking about multitasking with 20-30 tabs and 3-4 office apps open, not rendering)
Thanks
I just brought pro m1 with 8c gpu 8c with 8gb ram and 512 ssd. It is new and costs about 600 euros :) it is my first mac :) do i make any sense on 2023 :) and it is 13" i videoedit a lot so :)
Summary: base model MBA is the best bang for the buck for most consumers.
Yeah, covers needs of 95% of users
how about the storage? should it be upgraded?
@@jackscandrett123 Chances are that if you’re a light user or someone that has other devices to store things on you won’t need extra storage than the base 256GB. You can always use an external drive for files that you can’t store in the cloud because paying apples rates for storage isn’t economical at all especially considering that you can get a pretty good 1TB SSD and usb c connector for around 150. Of course if you know you really need that storage and you don’t want the hassle of keeping drives and dongles with you then the only alternative is to spend the extra money.
@@jackscandrett123 Unless you work with large files, you shouldn't upgrade. I bought one last week and I was very loath to shell out the extra $225CAD for either RAM or storage. Apple's upgrade prices are extortionate IMO so I didn't opt for either.
@@syedshahrukhraza2923 Did you get the 8GB 7 core base model? 16GB will be nice, but I think 8GB might cover my needs (youtube, office) just fine.
Love this channel so much! I'm from Brazil and you guys have been helping me so much with Apple-related products. God bless you guys
Watching this on my new m1 MacBook pro!
Watched on my iPod touch 6 gen 😎 long live iOS 8.4!!!
How do you like it so far?
@@kanya6499 It's too good! It's so fast!
@@amritsingh4251 so tempting to buy!!!!! 😩
@@kanya6499 I would recommend you buy it.
your videos are most excellent and professional. Everything is polished - love the chapters.
Conclusion = 8GB is enough for most of people.
Hi Max!
Nice job on making such a quick comeback on the stress test! Looks like developers are gonna wait for more compatibility with all apps and then buy the 16GB thanks to this video. Great job!
Great video guys, love the content on the Apple M1 chips. Can you do a video comparing gaming between the 8GB and 16GB ram models? As the graphics part of the SOC uses the same RAM as the CPU.
This is the best channel for Apple product reviews. Keep up the awesome work.
Hi Max, thanks for your video. After reviewing the RAM performance for these two machines, which upgrade would up recommend as a priority when getting an M1 Mac? Extra storage or extra RAM? Thanks!
Thanks a lot Max, and ofcourse Vadim. You worked hard for us. Hope you have more subs ❤️
i'm a professional and ordering 8gb, i would seriously argue that 97% of people don't need 16gb.
Facts. It's hard to recommend the 16 GB for anyone (college students, normal users, photo editors, web developers, etc) The base model MacBook Air is the best right now and I think more pro users should honestly wait for the next Macs to come. They will be better for the people who really need it (Like that 3% of pro users who really need every bit of performance)
That's what I've been saying. That crowd keeps making excuses why they need 16gb...."future proofing!!"...and then when 8gb is proven to be more than enough for almost everyone..."it helps save my ssd!"....there's really no pleasing those folks. 16,000gb still wouldn't be enough to please.
@@Deetroiter these guys think that they are more knowledgable than the engineers creating the ssd
@@andreaslassak2111 No.
Yep. I canceled my order for 16 and purchased 8gb. Based on testing 8 is adequate for my needs and not worth $200
man these machines are crazy. great video