Testing a Cat 299D2 skid loader in Deep snow
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- Опубліковано 25 гру 2018
- Caterpillar 299D2 is one of Cats biggest, heaviest skid loaders. so How will it handle deep, heavy snow? We are going to test that today...
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I’m actually a supervisor at the plant that builds these skid steers, and I found this video satisfying, that same machine was built in my hometown of Sanford NC and I started building these when I was 18, I’m 25 now
That's cool Mike, glad you liked the vid!
Just bought the same one. It is an awesome machine works great.
Had two wheeled Cat skid steers and thought they were great. There is a reason Cat has been at the top of the industry for 50+ years. Visibility was the only reason I went with the John Deere when I switched to a tracked machine. Awesome visibility in the Deere
Agreed. I run deere at my work and visibility is way better than I thought it would be
I have a 2018 299D2 XHP with the land management package & it is an absolute beast, love it. I use it mainly for forestry mulching using an AFE disk mulcher. I also have extra machine guarding on the cab & that covers the engine compartment. I'm glad I watched your video to see how it does in the snow & it is quite impressive, never expected that. Happy New Year to you & your family! God Bless!!!
Happy New Year !
I have the same exact machine, I had a brand new 289 before it, And you aren't kidding with a Night and day difference. Is worth every penny, Puts Every Other machine Something to work for. The other machines have features that are good but all the features are good on this machine. I should be a spokesperson for Caterpillar.
Well it had snow tracks, so that’s why it performed well. I think Cat has improved their compact equipment recently, although I dislike the serviceability and it’s impossible to see out the back.
Another great video, Stan. Nice to see machines doing real work.
Appreciate that Don, thank you !
2003 john deere 2210 is what I use,I plow a quarter mile long driveway, today it's a john deere 1025r, they both are very easy to maintain and very easy to use in small areas or in larger ones.
Thanks for the tip and tricks keep up the good vids
You're welcome Markus and thanks for watching
That thing has some power baby! Whooo!
Yesssss, you got a dodge!!!!!!! You just made my night😂
glad you went with a RAM. 2500 regular cabs are not very easy to find! you 100% will be happy with your choice. I have a 6 speed with a cummins diesel and its been an amazing truck so far.
It seems to be a good machine. Front bucket loaders are a good investment. I like the Challenger in the Back!!
Hey Stanley! Check out Millennial Farmer's channel. Ziegler Machinery let him use a Challenger tractor during harvest and let him do an honest review of the MT series Challenger tractor after he used it for harvest. He did a great job of reviewing the tractor against his Deere belted undercarriage tractor and I was impressed with his review. I see you are at a Ziegler dealer, maybe they might do something like that for you. As a Cat Dealer tech when I saw your new video I thought "Oh crap, Stanley don't like the bells and whistles" but it sounds like a "long term test drive" and an honest review might be in order for you. Looking forward to the other forestry video that you teased us with for sure. I've seen the damage one of those 299D loaders can do with that tree/brush hog on it. Some satisfying work for sure!
we have a brand new 299 at work and i love this machine!!!
That's awesome, thank you for viewing!
I have the Cat 299D XHP with the land management package, I love mine It can do just about anything
I work on a farm and I run a 242d and I love the thing I scrape manure so I'm always on slick concrete and I runs wonderfully. And when it comes to bucket work it's nice and fast but still controllable with a experience operator in the seat.
Got my dodge put in an aftermarket remote starter, it works awesome, even over a mile away it still starts at that distance.
Plus remote start is a really good thing to have for the 6.7, they don’t like to run when cold plus it will prolong the life of it, also it can take 15 min to warm up on cold days because its a diesel
I also enjoy moving snow. I have an old Deere 70 skid steer that I spent a few bucks and time on and it's it runs great.
Monsters of the Midway I also like moving snow, just got a 69 international 444 and it runs good, haven’t gotten to use it in the snow but it’s looking good so far.
It's not bells and whistles that a problem. It's a dodge.
I can't give this comment enough likes!!!!
Agree, actually its not even a dodge, it's a RAM.. Fiat motors 😵 wow
Then there’s the gay ass tow mirrors that Ram puts on the trucks.
Couldn't be that the dealer did a shitty job installing the remote start system.
@@cledussnow3935 mainly just the idiots that flip them out when they don't even have a hitch
I love those . Beast mode
Great video, it looks like that cat has some pretty good break out on that high capacity bucket when you went through that harder snow.
Thank you Buck !
That thing was a beast !
Yep, thanks for watching !
I was a Case guy till they dropped the cummins engines, I am now converted to Takeuchi (they have hydraulic pilot controls), i put snow track on my tl8 and snow tires on the ts60v and have no issues pushing snow, the tl8 did suck with stock track, i installed narrow winter tracks and run them all year, but my track machine only sees dirt in the summer.
I got a Cat299D3. Love it
Nice video Stan
Thank you Jamison
You should review the JCB telescopic arm skidsteers
Thanks Mark and thanks for watching !
Stan some track skid loaders like John Deere and Cat have great traction and floatation on soft surfaces and try the John Deere 325G it's a 75 hp track skid loader
I still like my Bobcat 773 running wolf paws and a snow bucket. 299D looks like a NICE machine for stacking snow!
I have a Kubota SVL 75 that is also used for snow removal in the winter. Now I did spend the money on some camoplast winter tracks. I also bought traction m studs. I can honestly say those studs are still sitting in the box in my shop. I have never needed them. This machine has a 8’ box on the front for plowing. Pushes that box without a struggle. I also have a snow bucket for pushing back banks in the HOA it’s left at for the winter. Though the cab is fairly noisy the machine itself has been extremely reliable and performs way beyond my expectation in the snow. My one big complaint with Kubota are the pins and bushings. Not so great.
Thanks for sharing and for watching !
Well done vid!
Thank you !
Case SR200. I will be trying a case TR320 next winter.
I bought my first skidsteer this year which will buy my next cant wait to get in a brand new one In the next 3 or 4 yrs
I have a Cat 930g highlift wheelloader with a 20 foot snowblade. It is great for the farm snow removal.
I don't care if I can't see nothing out the back, I want one, I had a fastback one time , couldn't see out the back of it ,but it's still was the cats meow, loved it
I have a 2016 299D2 that I used to dig swimming pools in hard clay here in Houston, Tx. The machine has worked well for almost 3 years, so powerful and its the best investment I ever made. The only issue I ever had was a drive motor broke the planetary gears, but I replaced under warranty and its back to being a beast!
That's great to hear Ivan, thanks for viewing !
I prefer case skid loaders over all both track machines and tire loaders. It's always operator preference but I like case controls over cat or Bob cat controls. I been plowing for 14 yrs now and use only case skid loaders and I have no complaints. I live in Minnesota as well and we just had a bunch of heavy snow come through and my skid loader didnt skip a beat! We also put an oversized pump in our machine for more hydraulic pressure to run mill head attachments for paving and it doesnt skip a beat.
Nothing beats a cat ;) meow!!
Snow at the beginning looked like cookies and cream
Had the opportunity to run a couple cat skid steers a while back by far my favorite skid steers to operate. With that said my experience is limited to cat, bobcat, and mustang. The cats just seemed better thought out and ran more seamlessly. With that said though they are pricey and would likely go with mustang if I had to buy one
You should make a video about all the different types of snow removal set up residential/commercial loader/tlb/skidsteer
Thanks for the suggestion Nicholas!
Like the video know the feeling of going into a demonstration knowing your going to hate it and then leaving impressed.
Just wondering how the side door Volvo unit works in the snow. As I get older that side door looks inviting.👍
Great content 👍👍
Appreciate it, thank you !
I have no experience with bob cats but I would have expected every bob cat to be able to push snow. I know they are extremely powerful. I’d love to see a standard bob cat move some snow bc I just feel like how can it not. They are all a power house!
I do believe the down shift is a part of the 2 speed. I haven’t ran one of those in about a year so I’m not sure if it’s hi or low speed but one of them does torque down under a real heavy push.
Best heavy snow mowing equip I have used is JCB Fastrac, Huddig articulated loader/backhoe and Ljungby/Scania wheel loader. We keep most of the best machines for our self i Sweden. Maybe sell them to Canada! :) I haven't seen a BobCat in heavy snow use here. For that type of work we use small "Communal" 4wd 50kph tractors with hydraulic angled blade/iceripper and sand or grit spreader.
Hey Stan, looking at buying a Ram work truck. How do you like yours so far?
Our family friend that has cattle and has a cat 299. He told us when it comes to skid don't mess around just buy the biggest one they have to offer.
We have had a few 299D's, both D and D2, and the John Deere 333 series will out work the cat. Mostly in hydrolic force. We plow snow and do power line ROW restoration year round. The cat does ride nicer than the Deere but for pure lifting and break force of the bucket, even our 329 with 3000 hours out worked the cat 299. Track pattern has a lot to do with traction and the camso W looking track transformed it's ablity to plow snow night and day. The cat is much quieter to opperate inside and outside the machine but the front glass distorts your view very badly in the lower corners when your trying to do fine, light work. The sad part in all of this we have a 333D, 333G Deere bobcat t770 and a cat 236 wheel skid loader. We've had 299D's to demo and had nothing but issues. Had a 279D and it was flawless while we rented it. We traded in our 329D for the 333G and they have done huge improvements. They both have their ups and downs to both if you wanna know shoot me a message
Nice video, I own Cat 287B MTL and i can say it's great on snow, i used before S300 bobcat wheel it's not better than Cat also I tried bobcat track and that didn't work good. Last winter i tried on 20" wet snow grip studs and it almost able to push mountain. Grip studs can be used on track or wheels that is really great for deep snow or icy surfaces.
Thank you !
I have this at my work and it’s never let me down snow removal is awesome for it and it can’t really be stopped yea it’s got limits but it’s a work horse
Would love to see a detailed comparison between the 299D2 XHP and the Takeuchi TL12, and hear your opinion about power, speed, controls, etc.
Thank you for the suggestion Robert !
Love the dodge
I've ran bobcat for years,my work bought a 257b and Its love hate for me.the cab entry is garbage and some of the interior parts broke easy.but in mud it's a beast.its fast hydro wise.it does not lack power.u can push n cut for days lol
Bad to the bone brother awesome video some Machine Congratulations on the new dodge truck new plow will look sweet on the Happy Healthy New Year to you and your family brother god bless you and your family
Happy New Year Thomas and thank you for the support!
i use a 279 d caterpillar
love it
You make plowing look like playing in the snow!
Cool cat
I own a CAT 299D2XHP and I’m blown all the time how amazing it is over my John Deere 333G and Volvo MCT135D. I’ve come to learn they all have their special niche. The Volvo is a one arm boom which I prefer for safety, especially when working with a forestry cutter but it doesn’t have the lift capacity or power. The Deere excels as a loader and the CAT as a dozer. Everybody constantly tells me if I want to push snow I need a wheeled skid but that is not true with the CAT. I’m really happy to see someone with your clout make a video showing this.
Thank you and thanks for watching !
Gotta check out the HLA hydraulic plow for skid steers. If u do get one lemme know so I can point out benefits over the snow wolf
Were im from! Forget the skids we run wheel loaders and metal-pless or farm tractor with plow in front and snowblower on pto
The best snow removal piece of equipment I've got the opportunity to run? I got to try out a Case 321F compact wheel loader with a Kage angle blade. I've been doing commercial snow removal for 20 years and have used a lot different equipment- plow trucks, graders, rubber tired backhoes with snow pushers, skid steer with pushers, and big wheel loaders with pushers (in fact I spent close to 10 hours today in a 644 John Deere with a 16 foot pusher strapped to the front). The reason I liked the compact wheel loader and the Kage plow was plain old comfort and manuverability. It had enough power to get something done, wasn't a tank to get around with, and I didn't feel like I'd been sitting in a metal cage with a peep hole in front all night-which is how I feel after sitting in a skid steer. If I were to start a commercial snow removal company from the ground up tomorrow, my first piece of equipment would probably be a compact wheel loader and a Kage plow or something similar.
Well and Southeast Kentucky where I live it doesn't snow a whole lot but the only thing I really ever used that I like to use was a little Yanmar 1401d with a Quaker loader on it same to push the big heavy wet snow that we get a rare occasions here pretty good
By far the best way to move snow if don't have obstacles to throw against is a large tractor mounted snow blower, a snow blower on a cvt tractor would beat anything for road clearing. not so much parking lots. Good view, great comfort, the ag industry is years ahead in comfort.
The perfect situation would be a front mount blower and rear blade. On a euro specd(high road speed, front 3pt, pto) 140 horse tractor.
I would like to see how it works in the dirt and muddy ground..!
Can you test a case tv450. That's case new track loader which is comparable to that 299d
Enjoyed it. Good content. Us lawn care guys always like a good skid steer video.
Appreciate that Brooks, thank you !
U got a Dodge..
God bless u my friend
Reason it pushes so good!? The tracks!!! We have the older 77/87 series that came with those tracks. When they went to the 89/99 series they started putting the hard Mini excavator tracks on them, HORRIBLE in the snow! I'm glad u can get these with that new style bottom track frame
Hey Stanley I want to know how was your Christmas holiday did you get any tools for Christmas this year ?
I have a 299. I can't wait to terminate my lease on this piece of junk! The tracks only last 500 hours ($4,000 from cat dealer). Replace instrument screen, replace seat suspension, replace quick attached motor, replace 2 speed sensors, replace alternator, had problems with the DPF I can go on and on and on. I'M NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL WITH THIS PILE OF JUNK. I own a New Holland L175 with 8000 hours and still runs like a champ. That's a real American tractor!
Alex G
Yep got myself an ls190, amazing machine
No complaints about the stupid large quick attack that blocks all view when loading a trailer? Or the hoses in the tracks where mud builds up? Or ...... Yea glad I didn't buy
@Tsunauticus III Lol never in the history of menkind.
Alex G, I know what you mean with the New Holland, we had to sell ours, it was over 10,000hrs, and we needed the money for a down payment on our new Bobcat, still mad we had to get rid of it.
I have 2 cat 279d track skid loaders and I love them I have replace the tracks after 1000 hours on one and 1500 on the other
The only ones l used in the snow was cat grader and 580 case loader&boxblade to with John Deere tractors...
I was thinking about buying a 289 in the spring but now I think it's going to be a 299
Stanley have you looked at the camso z pattern tracks best tracks for snow hands down and I would like to see a review on the kubota svl series
Appreciate the suggestions, thank you !
Anyone know anything about Avant Tractors with a snowblower and cab? I only just heard of them, how do they compare to ventrac?
Hey Stan, you should try testing a Terex of the same size!! 😂😂
My Terex does terrible in snow ,gonna put some carbide tips on tracks for more bite.
I'd like to know what you think of the difference between straight lift skid steers and radial lift. Excuse me if I have my terms wrong here.
Straight lift is what you see in this video with the black bar. It means the bucket lifts straight vertically in the air. Radial lift is when you raise the bucket due to the changed fulcrum point it lifts at a light angle back towards the cab. Makes it harder to load trucks and what not. Hope this helps!!
John deere 110 tlb. Smokes on skids power wise. Plus four wheel drive
Do you have a video of how to properly use a snow box on a skid steer??
Stanley, can you help with a suggestion? I bought a Takeuchi TL6R track loader. It came stock with “block style” tracks. If I bought “multi-bar style” tracks will it greatly increase my snow traction for pushing snow, or minimal improvement. Also how much emphasis should I put on thinking about “ground pressure” of my machine. I’m comparing “ground pressure psi” to that of my 3/4 ton pickup with a snow plow and also that of my Yamaha ATV with snow plow. What’s a better number for pushing snow? My ATV is fantastic at snow plowing but it’s a small blade and I’m sitting outside. Thank you Stanley. By the way, I’m plowing on compact gravel streets and driveways, not any paved. I bought a snow pusher, I don’t have a snow plow for my Track Loader
What are your thoughts on the avant 500 to 700 series for Landscape purposes
looks skookum as Frig :)
I've loved the few cats I've run but I've never had them long enough to know about reliabilaty
We've got a handful of em with the oldest maybe 14-15 years old and they're all reliable. Ours are relatively low hours but have a lot of years on them and only have typical age problems. The biggest issues we've had are a main hydraulic seal on a mini-ex going bad but that's after something like 1400 hours so a fair few hours on it and we have had DEF issues with a newer skid steer but when your fluid goes bad if it's too hot or too cold or too sunny or whatever else it's kind of bullshit.
That’s the variable piston motor swashing back allowing the motor to increase piston stroke increasing torque, decreasing speed
So when are you getting this cat loader you were talking about on Facebook?
What’s the best attachment for a skid loader or tractor loader for moving snow? A Standard bucket, a pusher box or a plow? Pros and cons of each?
Derek
Biggest plow box it can handle. Bucket likes to dig in
A hybrid. An Hla snow wing or a metalpless maxxpro. It’s a box that can angle and turn into a straight blade, it’s the best of all worlds and blows a box or a bucket out of the water
you should try out a Takeuchi. we have a 07 TL 150 with camopast snow tracks and its monstrous we can't buy the buckets we need we had to build the right manure bucket for it. we did buy a snow bucket and the dealer told us that we would never need a bigger bucket. if you see it now with side and back extensions we put on it almost looks like we cut the bottom of a large dirt bucket out and welded it to the top. now the back is actually caving in from us pushing so we have to put a weld on plate to save the bucket
Thanks for watching and for the tip!
Stanley do a video of a TL150 OR TL12V2 A BEAST
Thanks Angelo, I will keep that in mind!
So how about it's performances on steep slopes?
I have a 16 Ram 2500 6.4 hemi. Two years. 40k miles, tow my trailer with it, plow with it, love it. Good choice. Discovered I didn't need the diesel, power I haven't even used yet!
What attracted me to the Ram in the first place was the room behind the seat in the regular cab configuration . I like to carry my tool bags and extra batteries, jumper cables, grease, grease gun, tie down straps and bungies, ect. Your lucky to get a set of jumper cables behind the seat of a Ford or Chevy. Plus I wanted to check out the new coil spring rear suspention. Rides better than most 2500s.
completely agree, I have a 6 speed tradesman with a cummins though. I NEVER used my rear seats in all my other vehicles so I got a regular cab. do not regret it one bit.@@stroutstergmail
Got a '15 Ram 2500 reg. cab 4x4. 6.4L gas, 4.10's w/locking rear. So far I have 37K trouble free miles towing and plowing (8.5' Fisher Xtreme V Plow) with it. Love it.
About to buy a 299 d2 Xhp mid year for mulching!
Might want to check out the ASV RT120F, especially if you expect mulching to be the bulk of your work.
dvosberg39 the nearest ASV dealer is like 2 1/2 hours away and the cat dealer is 45 minutes away.
Keep your tracks on ground when pushing use the weight from bucket to put more down pressure on tracks you will move 40 percent more snow load
In norway we use tractors to take away the snow on smaller roads, and on big roads like highway we us trucks
have you tested case skid loader models?
We are a cat owners of a 259d, 226d, 304e2 all of which have been really good machines. We choose cat because of there service-parts and they stand behind there equipment in are area. That doesn't mean every cat dealer is great, I have heard bad stories of expensive fixes in other parts of the country. I also have been burnt tooooo many times buying from the under dog
All Cat are great machines, first in forestry equipment.
Bobcat❤️
The 290 is an ice machine but it doesn't have enough power at the tracks seen one stuck over summer and soft sand sunk to the frame couldn't even get the tracks to spin had to go get a case backhoe and pulled out for the guy
auto creep mode would be awesome
WAIT A MINUTE, THAND ZIEGLER, THE MILLENIAL FARMER JUST DID A DEMO OF ONE OF THEIR AGCO CRAWLERS, I thought you sounded like you were Minnesota
Try case. My brother in law works for Tormont (Cat) and compared to all the skid steer makers out there I will only ever drive either a case or a cat